Impulsive Short rant about a Sag hero taking a stand against the Holocaust

I need to get this of my chest

The holocaust is a very common conversation topic in germany, we joke about it, the tv channels show sensational docus about the third reich every 2 weeks, many streets in cologne have golden stones with the names of the people who used to live in that street and got shipped to concentration camps. The media accused Rammstein of glorifying the master race because they are shirtless on the cover of the herzeleid album. Third reich? holocaust? meh whatever.

But this, this truly send a shiver up and down my spine, the way he yelled MORDE?? The bravery of the Graf Schwerin von Schwanenfeld is admirable. This sag is a hero.

that's what ye get for losing the war.

had you won, and it be like it it's on the east....

"holodomor? never heard of that"

Mmm at least Chernobyl got that HBO stuff, cute touch.

ah, what I'm talking about, Ukraine is better now, specially after Russia took that crimea problem from them, right, otherwise the UN would have done something, riiiiiiiiight?

Posted by MareInfame

Rammstein, the band?

I’m here in Strasbourg for the Christkindelsmärik and today we went to the Musée Alsacien where I saw a lot of preserves home artifacts from the 17 - 19 century that were German & Jewish. I was so amazed to see them and was happy that they still exist. The newest artifact was a necklace for the birth of a little girl... born October 21, 1937 😒😒😒😒😒...

Anyway, even though I am in France... Strasbourg has me thinking only of Germany. And today I was definitely thinking a lot about WWII. So thanks for sharing that video... breaks my heart knowing how he ended up because of his courage.

But... what a man! He still told the truth and that judge got really loud because he had fear. He knew Graf Schwerin von Schwanenfeld was 100% correct!! All the judge could do is to shut him up with a fear tactic. Disgusting.

That is great, that there is cultural heritage left. French people are really charming who enjoy life in a very aesthetic and relaxed way and you said youare a libra, so I like the thought that you could have a great time hanging around with kindred spirits. Unfortunately the judge was not aggressive because he was scared, he was truly evil. He was willing to sentence people to death to further his career. He knew Hitler would support him. He called the third reichs justice system the tank squad of jurisdiction and himself soldier at the homefront. The personified evil. The most expressive movie villains could never trump the evilness that drips out of his tone.

Now shoo shoo go back to laughter and eclaire and choucroute.

Posted by Phangus

A brave man, indeed. I don't think I've read about him before.

I learned about Hans (Virgo) and Sophie (Taurus) Scholl and Christoph Probst (Scorpio) a while back.

https://catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2013/02/26/sophie-scholl-executed-by-the-nazis-70-years-ago-shows-the-human-spirit-at-its-finest/

I always think of them, when I go through the atrium where they left the paroles:

Thanks for sharing.

I'm lowkey obsessed with WW2.

Cologne was on my short list of places to go.

I have mixed feelings about historical artifacts. Like do we keep them as a reminder in hopes people don't glorify them?

"The holocaust is a very common conversation topic in Germany, we joke about it,"

What is the joke?

I have a Muslim friend who swears the Holocaust was fake, because she is all for Palestine. The reason is because Muslims are fighting in Israel and there is mass genocide of their people, so in her defense, this is what was created- That the Jewish faked it.

It's weird what side people take once there is this style of killing involved and when it's their own people.

It's wrong and happens all over the world. But wars, pillaging, plundering, and taking over what wasn't theirs is a part of human history.

I mourn anyone who's lost a life in war or battle, no matter the country or religion, I mourn the human race.

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Posted by saggurl88

"The holocaust is a very common conversation topic in Germany, we joke about it,"

What is the joke?

There are many.

Here some translations of the ones I remember:

What is the top rated hotel in Europe?

Auschwitz, with over 1 millions stars.

My grandfather died in Auschwitz.....he fell from the watchtower.

How many jews do you can get into a car?

2 in the front, 2 in the back and 96 in the ashtray.

What do you call a jewish pokemon trainer?

Ash.

etc.

You get the gist.

Most of them are simple and not very clever.

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Thank you. I get what he means now. Just typical racist stuff,similar to the American typecast.

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Posted by saggurl88

"The holocaust is a very common conversation topic in Germany, we joke about it,"

What is the joke?

There are many.

Here some translations of the ones I remember:

What is the top rated hotel in Europe?

Auschwitz, with over 1 millions stars.

My grandfather died in Auschwitz.....he fell from the watchtower.

How many jews do you can get into a car?

2 in the front, 2 in the back and 96 in the ashtray.

What do you call a jewish pokemon trainer?

Ash.

etc.

You get the gist.

Most of them are simple and not very clever.

Thank you. I get what he means now. Just typical racist stuff,similar to the American typecast.

Pretty much, but it has been ages ago that I heard them.

Most of them were made in school. Don't know how common they currently are.

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It's a part of your history as well as mine. I get it. 🙂 I was just wondering what the joke was.

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Posted by Black-Mamba

I'm all for knowing your history and not repeating it, but why is the holocaust such a present thing everywhere in the world, but other atrocities are not? Where are the reparations for everyone else?

Fair question. There was only *one* actual Holocaust, but there have been many genocides. And there's a reason the Holocaust is distinct and separate from all other mass killings/genocides that have occurred up to it and since.

What makes the Holocaust unique is that it was the first and *only* instance, where the TOTAL institutional, political, and ideological effort of an entire industrialized nation was directed toward the sole purpose of genocide. It was completely without precedent and has not been repeated since.

This isn’t just a question of unjust mass murder or however we might put it. Put more specifically, the Holocaust is unique beyond all other genocides in human history because its planning and execution was fully institutionalized. It mobilized all the organizational and mechanical advances of the Industrial Revolution into a formalized and fully bureaucratic process, with the full weight of legislative legitimacy firmly behind it.

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Well written. But I disagree.

People cared because there were visuals..visuals that could be seen around the world. TV, radio. It benefited from the media. Plain and simple.

Slavery had everything you mentioned.

But alas, no visuals were around during that melee.

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Posted by seraph

Posted by Black-Mamba

I'm all for knowing your history and not repeating it, but why is the holocaust such a present thing everywhere in the world, but other atrocities are not? Where are the reparations for everyone else?

Fair question. There was only *one* actual Holocaust, but there have been many genocides. And there's a reason the Holocaust is distinct and separate from all other mass killings/genocides that have occurred up to it and since.

What makes the Holocaust unique is that it was the first and *only* instance, where the TOTAL institutional, political, and ideological effort of an entire industrialized nation was directed toward the sole purpose of genocide. It was completely without precedent and has not been repeated since.

This isn’t just a question of unjust mass murder or however we might put it. Put more specifically, the Holocaust is unique beyond all other genocides in human history because its planning and execution was fully institutionalized. It mobilized all the organizational and mechanical advances of the Industrial Revolution into a formalized and fully bureaucratic process, with the full weight of legislative legitimacy firmly behind it.

Well written. But I disagree.

People cared because there were visuals..visuals that could be seen around the world. TV, radio. It benefited from the media. Plain and simple.

Slavery had everything you mentioned.

But alas, no visuals were around during that melee.

I agree with your remarks about the impact of visuals. But the Holocaust’s express purpose was to exterminate European Jewry. The slave trade’s express purpose was other than to exterminate slaves (even if the terrible results included mass death—there was plenty of Jewish slave labour, too, whose natural result was death.) Dead slaves are of no use as, well... slaves.

The two institutions are completely different in purpose and practice. This is not intended to minimize slavery or deny anyone their history, we’re just comparing the two—at least I assume that’s what your comments implied.

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Im not disagreeing with the intent behind the Holocaust.

What I'm saying is people cared because for the first time, tradegy was televised.

History just repeats itself. There is always one group of people strongly disliking another to the point of murder.

Case in point, police brutality of black men.

We the Black community experienced it for decades but people turned a blind eye until...it started being recorded and shared on social media platforms.

Visuals help people focus on issues.

Which is why Instagram, Tik Tok, and beyonce is so popular.

Visuals.

Posted by saggurl88

Posted by Antiphates

Posted by saggurl88

"The holocaust is a very common conversation topic in Germany, we joke about it,"

What is the joke?

There are many.

Here some translations of the ones I remember:

What is the top rated hotel in Europe?

Auschwitz, with over 1 millions stars.

My grandfather died in Auschwitz.....he fell from the watchtower.

How many jews do you can get into a car?

2 in the front, 2 in the back and 96 in the ashtray.

What do you call a jewish pokemon trainer?

Ash.

etc.

You get the gist.

Most of them are simple and not very clever.

Thank you. I get what he means now. Just typical racist stuff,similar to the American typecast.

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Nah, that is not what I meant, nobody dares to make these bad puns anymore, you will get shunned and mobbed cause they are clearly distateful and making fun of jews. Its more like foreigners

will mention it, when we talk about lost wars, or when we talk about stereotypes like the rigidity and uptightness of germans.

Like, dont make me dance, the last time we loosened up, the USA had to help out france.

Or you started 2 world wars, america kicked your ass each time. So STFU

Posted by MareInfame

Posted by Parkourler

Posted by MareInfame

Rammstein, the band?

I’m here in Strasbourg for the Christkindelsmärik and today we went to the Musée Alsacien where I saw a lot of preserves home artifacts from the 17 - 19 century that were German & Jewish. I was so amazed to see them and was happy that they still exist. The newest artifact was a necklace for the birth of a little girl... born October 21, 1937 😒😒😒😒😒...

Anyway, even though I am in France... Strasbourg has me thinking only of Germany. And today I was definitely thinking a lot about WWII. So thanks for sharing that video... breaks my heart knowing how he ended up because of his courage.

But... what a man! He still told the truth and that judge got really loud because he had fear. He knew Graf Schwerin von Schwanenfeld was 100% correct!! All the judge could do is to shut him up with a fear tactic. Disgusting.

That is great, that there is cultural heritage left. French people are really charming who enjoy life in a very aesthetic and relaxed way and you said youare a libra, so I like the thought that you could have a great time hanging around with kindred spirits. Unfortunately the judge was not aggressive because he was scared, he was truly evil. He was willing to sentence people to death to further his career. He knew Hitler would support him. He called the third reichs justice system the tank squad of jurisdiction and himself soldier at the homefront. The personified evil. The most expressive movie villains could never trump the evilness that drips out of his tone.

Now shoo shoo go back to laughter and eclaire and choucroute.

Lol... thank you Parkourler, Strasbourg was very beautiful and I made the most of it! I’m back in Paris and it is definitely as you described it; aesthetically beautiful and charming all around... I love that about this city. I would have to say if this city was an astrological sign, it would definitely be LIBRA 100% !!!

But I am not a Libra! I am a Scorpio 😁

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Oh, ok, I am glad you enjoyed it. Merry Christmas!