Sag & Sag Relationship

I'm a female Saggie and I have been dating a male Saggie for over 2 years now. We have so much in common it is very strange but we get along great for the most part. The few things that I don't like about him I think have to do with the other planets in his chart. I feel he is always trying to change me. He is very critical and judgemental. He gets upset with me because I am too caring and giving to my family and friends. He constantly says negative things about people I care about and it makes me shut down and not want tell him about alot of things anymore. The first year he was not this intense about people in my life. I do know that he has a best friend that is an extremely negative person who he has been spending alot of time with lately. He constantly tells me he is a realist not a negative person, which I beg a differ. Now he has seriously rubbed off on my Saggie and I even told my Saggie that if I wanted to date someone so negative then I would of dated his friend and I cannot subject myself to such negativety because it brings me down. Also, usually Saggies are giving and he is but only if it doesn't cost him money. He can be very cheap unless he is buying something for himself and then the cost doesn't matter. He makes really good money yet, I have to pay for a weekend away or we don't do anything because he says he has to save in case something happens and yet he will turn around and spend over 2 grand on something for himself but can't spend a few hundred dollars and take me away for the weekend. He won't even take me out to dinner yet, he will take his best friend out to dinner. The only time he puts money out is for 4x4ing which, only cost is for gas or for all the cost he has done to modify it. Not sure if I can stay in this relationship. I do love him but, if I come last to everything else in his life then why I am in this relationship. I have been pondering what to do so I think I needed to write some of it down and so he I did.

his best fd is means more to him
himself means more to him
his car modifications means more to him

saggies are nice and all but you guys are still human, there is only so much room u can bend before u snap

Posted by funsize
He is very critical and judgemental. He gets upset with me because I am too caring and giving to my family and friends. He constantly says negative things about people I care about and it makes me shut down and not want tell him about alot of things anymore.

I'm pretty convinced this is just a man trait. I've known way too many to end up doing this, of all different sun signs.
I think it boils down to men feeling too possessive of you. They see friends/family as a threat (even subconsciously.)
You have to put him in his place, that's all.

Posted by funsize

I do know that he has a best friend that is an extremely negative person who he has been spending alot of time with lately. He constantly tells me he is a realist not a negative person, which I beg a differ. Now he has seriously rubbed off on my Saggie and I even told my Saggie that if I wanted to date someone so negative then I would of dated his friend and I cannot subject myself to such negativety because it brings me down.

In this instance you're pretty much doing the same thing as him by criticizing his friend. :/
It might be true that his friend is a bad influence on him and brings him down, but by you telling him that all he hears is you are trying to tell him who to be friends with. Which is probably realistically why he's being such a pain in the ass.

Posted by funsize

He makes really good money yet, I have to pay for a weekend away or we don't do anything because he says he has to save in case something happens and yet he will turn around and spend over 2 grand on something for himself but can't spend a few hundred dollars and take me away for the weekend. He won't even take me out to dinner yet, he will take his best friend out to dinner.

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GIRL. Should of dumped that broke dick a year ago if this is the case.

Anywho. Don't do what we do best and stick around for the sake of his feelings, or because you don't want the last 2 years to have been a "waste of time." (That's my classic excuse.)

If you're not happy, leave.

What is the rest of his chart funsize?

Mars in Virgo. Calling it now, lol.

just leave if he loves you he will work to get you back and change his way with you and if not then you will find way better people out there. when you show people that you will stay with them no matter what then they will do stuff without fear of losing you.

I used to be with a Sag for couple of months. And what you describe funsize is almost similar with my experience with a Sag. Although it's brief, it started out intense and ended up very intense too. He was all sweet and giving to me on our first month, he paid for our dinner, shopped for my clothes, brought me on an out of town trip. Even the sex was sizzling hot. He ended the relationship though cause of the following reasons, one when I didn't follow him to attend a job fair, I was unemployed that time and he forced me to find work fast so I could pay for our future dates. Second, he demanded me that he will only meet me up for another date when I would foot the bill, but when I declined and reasoned out that he knows that I'm unemployed and have no money, he downgraded me and said a lot of bad things about me. He broke up with me on the phone and keeps on bad mouthing me. Even if I liked him I'm too proud on not to run after him, I like my peace and freedom more than him...

Brianafay, you cant generalize this being a trait of all men despite having bad experiences. Look, I agree there's a ton of possessive psychotic jerks out there. But there are still some such as myself who have no problem with a woman's independence.

My dad never had a problem with mom hanging out with friends and family. He actively encouraged it, especially with her parents who she did not get along with.

Im totally fine with a girl going out with her friends or family. Inertia, that totally sucks about your ex Sag. He just sounds like a douchebag in general. If a girl is unemployed but I am, theres no problems paying for a date myself. He should have been more understanding, but sounds immature in general.

I usually pay for most of the dates. But I do take issue if a employed girl doesnt offer to split or pay in whole on a date now and then. Otherwise I feel extremely used. BTW by now and then, I mean just once in a while.

Lol @ Virgo on crack


hahahaha the imagery.

Wow, Thanks for all your reponses......As for my Saggie, he has his Mars in Aquarius, His Moon in Taurus and his Venus in Scorpio. Damn.....what a combo.....Creative, Stubborn and Devious with the Saggie Energy.

To let me clarify, when we first met he was did do what Saggie's do, he did what he could for me or with me and included me on everything. As time has gone on, he seems to only realize that I am still around is when he is not doing anything at the time. He has a habbit of texting me around 8pm or 9pm at night wondering what I was doing and do I want to go over to his house and visit and he would even make me dinner......damn......I already ate like 3 or 4 hours ago and I go to bed my 10pm because I have to get up at 4:30am and he know this but he realizes it is so late and now he thinks about me because he hadn't heard from me. Sometimes he will text in the morning while I am at work but then I won't hear from him for the rest of the day or until late at night.

As for his best friend, well.......I actually like him but feel sorry for him. Even my Saggie had good intentions on trying to get his friend to snap out of all his anger issues and bitterness but I believe it just did the reverse affect on my Saggie. Why is it that negativity rubs off easier than possitive things....hmmmmmm. I only recently told him how I was seeing him turn into his best friend.

Sat night he text's me around 10pm to see what I was doing cause he hasn't seen me in a while. I wanted to respond with: who's fault it that but, instead I told him I was working on a project at my house so, I was busy. He asked if he could help and I told him there was nothing for him to do but he really wanted to see me he said even if it was just being there, I told him ok. So, he came over. I was working on my project and he sat there like a puppy dog with sad eyes and seem to be unsure how to talk with me. Hey, maybe if he thought about me before it got late at night then maybe I might change my plans but if I am in the middle of a project, don't expect me to stop just because you showed up late at night and I haven't seen you in over a week and the last time I did see you, I was because you asked for my help with my truck for your boy friend and that was all for about 2 hours.

We used to talk for hours and now we talk by text. He used to give me the most awesome massages, and now I have to go somewhere else to pay for them...

Wow, my Saggie Male clashed last night. He doesn't care for my grandkids because he thinks I spoil them and he told me my granddaughter was a little bitch.....OMG....I can't believe he went there. I told him I won't put up with him saying that and he says what, I can't have my own opinion, this is america I thought....(I thinking, are you freaken kidding me) Then he says well, your grandkids are little jerks, is that better....WTF I told him, NO, you will not talk like that about them to me and he's like, really, I said, REALLY! Then he sits back for a second, then gets up and says, OK, we are done then...

They he heads home texting me a bunch of crazy crap about all my family, blah, blah, blah. I told him that I don't do that to your family, why do you do it to mine? Then he brings up that I must love being with a guy like my ex-boyfriends since he is such a bad man...WTF. He is being extremely immature and he's in his 40's. He is acting like a 20 year old. He will tell me all the bad choices I have made in my life and my hard upbringing but, who hasn't had those issues, even he has. Then he would lecture me about how could I ever be a good spouse and do I know what it takes to make a marriage work, blah, blah, blah....well, I got a little mean and said, No, I don't since I have never been married but, neither do you since you were married and it didn't work out for you so you can't tell me what makes a marriage work, can you?

After more of his text about bashing everyone I know, he turns around and tells me that he would stop talking about family issues if I do.....wtf....I don't talk about his family except I ask him that he should talk to his dad before he dies or he will regret it....wow, him bashing my family is the same as me trying to get him to reconcile with his family.... I don't know how that compares but he must feel it does. Then he told me that I should think really hard and long on whether I really won't to break up with him......HUH—?? He is the one that told me we were done...


My head is spinning..... Is it his other sign's in his chart or what?