Anyone else experience this with Scorpio females?

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Scorpio males are wonderful! Unfortunately, almost every Scorpio female I've ever met has lied about me...and I'm talking major character assassination lies!! Another thing is that they pick up that I'm vulnerable and, like a predator, once they've discovered that weakness they attack me. They've also said very mean, uncalled for things to me. Yes I understand being honest but you can't just say anything under the guise of "just being honest" because it's YOUR truth, not the universal truth. For example, I wouldn't just say to someone: "You're fat" out of the blue. At that point it's just bullying.

Has anyone else had experiences like this? Scorpio females are the ONE astrological group with whom I really have had problems.
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In fairness, a few of them I know are wonderful but I mean that's a precious few. They are not like the ones I described, but the ones I described are like 95% of the ones I know. I'm a Libra by the way. But, my Virgo aunt has had the EXACT SAME PROBLEM with them over the years! About twenty years ago, she first told me about her experiences with them before I really started having mine. The same thing happened to her, especially at work: Scorpio female co-workers would lie about her, say rude things to her, and try to act all authoritative over her as if they were her bosses when they weren't.
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Posted by Erica1
In fairness, a few of them I know are wonderful but I mean that's a precious few. They are not like the ones I described, but the ones I described are like 95% of the ones I know. I'm a Libra by the way. But, my Virgo aunt has had the EXACT SAME PROBLEM with them over the years! About twenty years ago, she first told me about her experiences with them before I really started having mine. The same thing happened to her, especially at work: Scorpio female co-workers would lie about her, say rude things to her, and try to act all authoritative over her as if they were her bosses when they weren't.



No-- I had one threaten me before, but she took it back when she sobered up. 😛

But I've known a Gemini who had the behavior you're describing.

Some people are just bossy. *shrugs*
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Keep in mind, too, that Scorpios are sometimes (?) hard to get to know. On some occasions, I have suspected that they challenge just to see if a person will have the guts to stand up to them. If "no," then that person is forever outside the circle; if "yes," then you still might not be friends but they will respect you.


Still just sounds like an excuse to be mean. People are not dogs; they should not test other people and push boundaries on purpose. Also, I've stood up to this one Scorpio woman several times and it doesn't seem to matter; she'll be nice for a while and then always go back to being mean to me out of the blue. And she started a rumor about me before she had even officially met me! Then she's always turning around saying she does not like gossip!! Another thing that gets me is her coldness: one time there was a stillborn baby born in a family we know; I was so upset and sad about it almost to the brink of tears. I got emotional about it and was expressing it to her. All she had to say was, "That's life." Nice.
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Posted by AksMirror
Erica1,

you were asking honestly asking her opinion or were looking for sympathy?

she said what was her opinion.

me and most of the scorpios I know don't play with words when someone ask for opinion,
may be because I expect same from others,I wan't plain,honest truth howsoever bitter it may be.
I simply don't wan't to seek refuge in illusion.

Same thing was mentioned by linda goodman in her book while comparing
scorpios brutal speech with Sagittarius bluntness.

"Scorpio tells the truth, completely conscious of its effect, but still refusing to compromise. Sagittarius is totally unaware of the effect when his direct honesty compels him to speak. Scorpio feels little compunction about the wounds his statements cause.
To him, the truth is the truth, and if you can't bear to hear it, don't ask."


You mean the thing with the baby? I didn't ask her anything. She came over to me and started the conversation about it (as she actually often does; she'll come over to me to talk). I said what I said getting all upset because it broke my heart and then she said her take which was, "That's life" and proceeded to give me a mini lecture about being too emotional and sensitive! That's part of what I don't get. If Libra is supposed to be cold, unemotional, and uncaring and Scorpio's supposed to be the other way around then why was a SCORPIO telling a LIBRA (myself) to get an emotional grip??

This is exactly what bothers me. If this thread were about Libra females, everyone would be agreeing and saying they're just plain mean. If that conversation were reversed and it was the Libra who responded "That's life" to something so tragic, everybody would be saying how disgustingly cold Libras are. I don't understand it. Libras get no credit and Scorpios get all. No matter what we do, it will never change and that just is the way it is.
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And that woman is just one example. There's another Scorpio woman who's REALLY nasty to me and my Capricorn female friend for no reason at all. She needles us because we're single. One day a group of us were talking to this guy and she was trying to impress him, which is fine; she could certainly do as she wishes. When she decided to build herself up by tearing us down, that was not okay. She waved her hand dismissively towards us while saying that she's a divorced single mom while we're "just...like single" as she so delicately put it (and she spoke in this condescending tone) because my Cappy friend & I are single as in never married, no kids. At that point I spoke up to her, and my Capricorn friend had words with her on a separate later occasion because she called her lazy.

Yet another Scorpio lady felt the need to get on me about my looks years back when we used to work together. Just one scenario of many was: we were both really young at the time and different people in the office used to call us "Miss Beauty". One day someone called her that and I said cheerfully, "Oh cool they call you that too?" Well...she jumped on me as if I had committed a federal offense! She responded very loudly, "I'VE NEVER HEARD ANYONE CALL YOU THAT!!" It was embarrassing and rude. She was clearly implying that I was lying about having been called that as well. Instead of her just having a pleasant moment and enjoying a mutual compliment, she had to be nasty.
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Posted by Scorsagian21
Whenever i hear someone's story and it's very one sided, it's like BS to me. Meaning you are telling the story and your making yourself sound so innocent. There's always two sides of the story...Maybe you provoke her to be stupid with you.


Okay that's a low blow because I could say the same thing about your story about your Scorpio cousin beating someone up, but I am choosing to take it at face value. If you want lots of one-sided stories, go to the Libra board. And no one ever sticks up for us. Perhaps I should try being mean and nasty to people just for kicks and see where it gets me. Also, I'd love to know how I provoke this woman. By saying good morning to her?

My Pisces friend didn't like her from the get-go...she got a really bad vibe. She even made no bones about saying to our other friend over the telephone: "Oh and by the way, your mom's friend is a *BEEP*!"
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Haven't read through all this but as a Scorp woman, I have to say there are some bad apples in the bunch. Just like any other sign. I work with a Scorp with moon in Aqua and se really gets under my skin. Then again, one if my good friends is a Scorp female.

What I do know, however, is that we usually are mean to others for a reason. No matter how dumb it may be, it could be due to their own insecurities or yes, jealousy. So maybe there is somehow about u that had Scorp women acting a certain way. Not blaming u, just saying.

I really do hate that some of us give us a bad name, because personally I think my other fellow water sign women are worse when it comes to these things.
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Posted by Erica1
In fairness, a few of them I know are wonderful but I mean that's a precious few. They are not like the ones I described, but the ones I described are like 95% of the ones I know. I'm a Libra by the way. But, my Virgo aunt has had the EXACT SAME PROBLEM with them over the years! About twenty years ago, she first told me about her experiences with them before I really started having mine. The same thing happened to her, especially at work: Scorpio female co-workers would lie about her, say rude things to her, and try to act all authoritative over her as if they were her bosses when they weren't.



Well yea I've had this Scorp at work at like she's my boss, but I'm not havi that and I think that's what bothers her.

I'm learning that Virgo women can be bitchy too so no comment on that
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Posted by Erica1
Scorpio males are wonderful! Unfortunately, almost every Scorpio female I've ever met has lied about me...and I'm talking major character assassination lies!! Another thing is that they pick up that I'm vulnerable and, like a predator, once they've discovered that weakness they attack me. They've also said very mean, uncalled for things to me. Yes I understand being honest but you can't just say anything under the guise of "just being honest" because it's YOUR truth, not the universal truth. For example, I wouldn't just say to someone: "You're fat" out of the blue. At that point it's just bullying.

Has anyone else had experiences like this? Scorpio females are the ONE astrological group with whom I really have had problems.



Erica1, I'm sorry you're frustrated with these unpleasant experiences. It can be rough for younger Libras to discover that not everybody in the world wants to be balanced and at peace.

The problem with these women isn't that they're Scorpio. The problem is that they are uncouth and socially maladjusted. It's not you; it's them. They're beyond your help -- kind words and nice manners won't help them. So just let them alone and do a little nodding and smiling as needed to retain professionalism in the workplace. Good luck.
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I find this odd. I have not encountered Scorp females doing stuff like that. It has to be pretty extreme if they're out to make your life more, ahh...uncomfortable. Scorps I know prefer to be left alone. Only time when they react, retaliate is if they discover someone is GOING OUT HIS/HER WAY to humiliate/hurt/dominate them. A Scorp will be forced into a position to defend her/himself.

In reality, Scorps prefer peace.

If a Scorp has to go to war, it will require an immense amount of emotional energy, extreme intensity--bent on winning. It would become an obsession to win. I guess my point is, most Scorps I know, including myself, sparingly pick and choose who we want to tangle with. Also, we have to think whether it's worth it or not. We try to conserve, protect our emotional energy as much possible.

As one poster mentioned--is it possible OP whines a lot? Scorps are tough buggers, and most prefer to face the music "like a man" because it's all part of being prideful. As for me personally, I despise people who constantly whine--damn, there's a few people I know who whine ALL THE TIME and I CAN'T GET THEIR F__KING CRIES OUT OF HEAD--. Argh.

I avoid them as much possible. But if they end up within my vicinity, I get extremely cold, flat.If they keep pestering me, refusing to get out of my face, that's when I really snap, hurl ruthless dagger comments.
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Posted by Erica1

Yet another Scorpio lady felt the need to get on me about my looks years back when we used to work together. Just one scenario of many was: we were both really young at the time and different people in the office used to call us "Miss Beauty". One day someone called her that and I said cheerfully, "Oh cool they call you that too?" Well...she jumped on me as if I had committed a federal offense! She responded very loudly, "I'VE NEVER HEARD ANYONE CALL YOU THAT!!" It was embarrassing and rude. She was clearly implying that I was lying about having been called that as well. Instead of her just having a pleasant moment and enjoying a mutual compliment, she had to be nasty.



lol, I think I get this one. To avoid incurring the wrath of that Scorp, maybe in a hindsight, you were supposed to either 1) pretend that you didn't hear it--continue doing whatever you were doing at the time; or 2) if you were to acknowledge the comment, avoid coming across as condescending. Though that was probably not your intention, she may have sensed that your cheerfulness was not genuine, instead, coming across as a phony with an agenda. In her mind, if Mr. Magoo called her Ms. Beauty, you, as Gidget, would have chirpily chimed in with same remark--"oh cool he calls you that too? Doesn't that make you feel good, elevate your self-esteem Ms. Scorpy?! Isn't that whee WONDERFUL that someone finally thinks you're pretty..you totally got hope you amorphous ogre of a beast!"

In order to come across as more genuine, your response needs to have a twinge of sarcasm in it--or you are to look at her straight in the eyes--get her attention, then connect---from there, make that comment--then follow it up with, "I think it's cool--I wish I was called that more often nowadays...". Then she'll feel that you were genuine.
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Posted by blisss
It seems like you came in here looking for sympathy opposed to a opinion. Your post was written in a "victim" like fashion. To give a proper opinion we need to hear both sides of the story. Not an incident.

Unless you can recognize what you may have done to this Scorpio (be honest with yourself) and changing whatever it is that you may be doing to offend them, then things will remain the same.

Approach these women when you think they are being rude, be direct, and ask if they have a issue with you. Be blunt if you want a real answer. The truth may shock you. People are not typically mean for no reason.


I've tried, and every time all she does is insists she likes me. It's bizarre.
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It seems like you came in here looking for sympathy opposed to a opinion. Your post was written in a "victim" like fashion. To give a proper opinion we need to hear both sides of the story. Not an incident.

Unless you can recognize what you may have done to this Scorpio (be honest with yourself) and changing whatever it is that you may be doing to offend them, then things will remain the same.

Approach these women when you think they are being rude, be direct, and ask if they have a issue with you. Be blunt if you want a real answer. The truth may shock you. People are not typically mean for no reason.


I've tried, and every time all she does is insists she likes me. It's bizarre.
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Well, have you not considered that perhaps she's being truthful and that your perception of her behaviors might be "off?"

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I love the Scorpio males. I really do. They have been blunt and honest with me and in general and they make no bones about it, and I respect and appreciate that. Never had this kind of problem with them, ever. Like I said, unfortunately in my experience Scorpio females (not all...I do know a handful of Scorpio females who are wonderful, but many) have been mean to me when I honest to God have not done anything to them.

And regarding the same lady, my Virgo co-worker/friend said the same thing: if she senses someone is vulnerable/sensitive, she perceives it as weakness and goes after the person. If she could see they're tough, she (for the most part) leaves them alone. She double-crossed my Virgo friend/co-worker as well when she ran against her for something. This was after the Virgo had been so good to her and helped her so much. I just can't figure this chick out.
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I love the Scorpio males. I really do. They have been blunt and honest with me and in general and they make no bones about it, and I respect and appreciate that. Never had this kind of problem with them, ever. Like I said, unfortunately in my experience Scorpio females (not all...I do know a handful of Scorpio females who are wonderful, but many) have been mean to me when I honest to God have not done anything to them.

And regarding the same lady, my Virgo co-worker/friend said the same thing: if she senses someone is vulnerable/sensitive, she perceives it as weakness and goes after the person. If she could see they're tough, she (for the most part) leaves them alone. She double-crossed my Virgo friend/co-worker as well when she ran against her for something. This was after the Virgo had been so good to her and helped her so much. I just can't figure this chick out.



Well, there are people who enjoying preying upon or exploiting weakness (OR perceived weakness) of others. You don't need to "figure this chick out." You need to calmly communicate that you will seal her fate if she keeps jacking with you.
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Not going to grace this bollocks thread with my presence. 😛



Nailed her on the Pisces board. She's another one whose all about married men cheating and after one herself. As a result we have a "woe is me, Scorpio's can't stand me" victim thread.

The usual dxp horseshit.
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I'm not all about married men cheating; I was just saying I could just understand the instance of my friend's dad cheating on her mom because she didn't appreciate him. And I'm not after him; he's happily married to his second wife. I was asked and I answered that in the hypothetical situation if he were single, then yes I would date him if he asked me out (I would not pursue him as I don't believe in pursuing men). I don't get along with most of the Scorpio females I've encountered, but that's just been my experience. The males I get along with famously.
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Uh huh..

U must be interesting and intriguing if u get along with Scorp males.

However there's something off with ur story and I can't pinpoint which part.

Seems not consistent.

The majority of my female close friends r scorpions. Strange as this may sound but they understand me and I them. There is even 1 demented female but yet she exhibits similar traits to the rest - kind heart.

They go to great lengths to protect what's theirs as compared to other females - this is when I think a Scorpio female is at her worst or best.

It's about protection.

What's hers can be her emotional state, something physical etc.

It's hard to explain as English is not my primary language.



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K read ur next post u answered ur not going after married men. Good.


Exactly. Thank you. By God's grace I always give the honest answer and the honest answer in this case is yes, inside I feel an attraction to my friend's dad. He has everything desirable to me. But, I would never act on it.

In this thread I am venting about unfortunately having had bad experiences with a decent number of Scorpio females. (Many people vent on many zodiac sign boards on dxp). I know not all Scorpio women are like that, but I just need to vent. I have five Scorpio gals in my life who are very wonderful: my friend (who is extremely generous and caring), my great-aunt (who loves me a lot), my co-worker (a different one) who is really sweet, my friend's wife who is soft-spoken and kind, and my former therapist (a good person who always genuinely cared about me). Again, even though I vent I look at the individual and TRY to remember not to generalize any sign (sometimes I fail, but I do try).



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Posted by Erica1
Scorpio males are wonderful! Unfortunately, almost every Scorpio female I've ever met has lied about me...and I'm talking major character assassination lies!! Another thing is that they pick up that I'm vulnerable and, like a predator, once they've discovered that weakness they attack me. They've also said very mean, uncalled for things to me. Yes I understand being honest but you can't just say anything under the guise of "just being honest" because it's YOUR truth, not the universal truth. For example, I wouldn't just say to someone: "You're fat" out of the blue. At that point it's just bullying.

Has anyone else had experiences like this? Scorpio females are the ONE astrological group with whom I really have had problems.



I've had one Scorpio be that way towards me. He did exactly what you described above. I only know one female Scorpio and she's the nicest person Ive ever known- truly.
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Posted by Erica1
I'm not all about married men cheating; I was just saying I could just understand the instance of my friend's dad cheating on her mom because she didn't appreciate him. And I'm not after him; he's happily married to his second wife. I was asked and I answered that in the hypothetical situation if he were single, then yes I would date him if he asked me out (I would not pursue him as I don't believe in pursuing men). I don't get along with most of the Scorpio females I've encountered, but that's just been my experience. The males I get along with famously.




You are one step shy from being a Fatal Attraction, I did my research, you are extremely obsessive.

However...to say you feel cheating is warranted by a man when you have NO CLUE about the marriage or lived it is where our conversation began. You filled in all the blanks after.
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I sensed scorp hit the nail on the head with this one who then went on to call it making up stories and gossip. So transparent.


The Scorpio woman at work is always saying my older Virgo friend/co-worker is the biggest gossip, and it's simply not true. : (
The Virgo gal just tells the truth and sticks up for the underdogs, and tries to go about her business. (The two of them have worked in the same place for many years, and did years before I got there). That poor woman is mainly the one that the Scorpio chick accuses of making up stories and gossip, and it is a lie. One day the Virgo woman walked by without saying anything (they don't speak), and when she was far enough away the Scorpio chick started saying this taunting thing in kind of a loud whisper while holding up her palm: "I! REPEL! wretched people!!" It was soooo beyond odd and I felt so terrible for the Virgo girl I can't even describe it! Again bear in mind the female Virgo co-worker did so much to try to help the Scorpio girl years back when she was in need of help. And that's the thanks she gets.
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I'm a Scorpio female and honestly, I have a lot of patience with people. However, once you cross a certain limit, I can turn into the biggest b*tch around. People are usually shocked that the sweet girl they were talking to turned into such a mean person. Yes, when limits are crossed, I can sting pretty intensely.

However, I'm never mean for the sake of being mean. If I'm a b*tch towards you, it probably means you had it coming.
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I sensed scorp hit the nail on the head with this one who then went on to call it making up stories and gossip. So transparent.


The Scorpio woman at work is always saying my older Virgo friend/co-worker is the biggest gossip, and it's simply not true. : (
The Virgo gal just tells the truth and sticks up for the underdogs, and tries to go about her business. (The two of them have worked in the same place for many years, and did years before I got there). That poor woman is mainly the one that the Scorpio chick accuses of making up stories and gossip, and it is a lie. One day the Virgo woman walked by without saying anything (they don't speak), and when she was far enough away the Scorpio chick started saying this taunting thing in kind of a loud whisper while holding up her palm: "I! REPEL! wretched people!!" It was soooo beyond odd and I felt so terrible for the Virgo girl I can't even describe it! Again bear in mind the female Virgo co-worker did so much to try to help the Scorpio girl years back when she was in need of help. And that's the thanks she gets.
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Oh wow. I can see this is very important to you and you're highly engaged in all the workplace drama. Honestly, you will probably feel much more comfortable -- both internally and within the workplace -- if you disengage yourself as much as possible.

Personality conflicts happen in all aspects of life and learning to deal with it productively is an important life lesson.

If you're interested, pick up a copy of "The No Asshole Rule: Building a Civilized Workplace and Surviving One That Isn't" by Robert Sutton. The information might be valuable to you.

Also, work on finding other, healthier ways to engage yourself in your work and your workplace. Focus on the more positive and healthy work relationships you have.
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Posted by LostinPhilly
I'm a Scorpio female and honestly, I have a lot of patience with people. However, once you cross a certain limit, I can turn into the biggest b*tch around. People are usually shocked that the sweet girl they were talking to turned into such a mean person. Yes, when limits are crossed, I can sting pretty intensely.

However, I'm never mean for the sake of being mean. If I'm a b*tch towards you, it probably means you had it coming.



This is hysterical. I have the same issue. I have no clue why people assume my politeness is a license to even attempt to walk on me. They get REALLY frightened, petrified of me once they see my eyes begin to squint, nostrils flare...

They think I have two personalities. That would only occur if someone attempts to pass my boundary.
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I can promise you I never tried to cross any of them. That's just not my nature. Also, I don't know what they might be sensing about me that isn't genuine; I have no idea what this "BS" about me is that they supposedly see. Pisces are the most intuitive of all the signs and all the ones I meet gravitate to me, even this woman who's known for being very exclusive about who she talks to because most people get her the wrong way. And I'll never forget when my Cancer cousin-by-marriage (male) said about me, "Erica is very sincere." I just try to be the best person I can be. Lord knows sometimes I fail, but I do try.
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@ERICA1 YESSS i met a scorpio like that. My coworker, this chic is a liar ,manipulator, and she a shit starter. When shit dont go her way she send her poor self crazy trying to get revenge meanwhile poor thing hurting herself. Well she dislike me because I refuse to lie for her at work and a year ago she got herself in a some trouble by lieing about her work hours basically stealing time and she got mad at me because I didnt go alone with the bullshit , so now the child spend a year fucking with me by breaking in my desk, destroy my things, telling liars about me. In my case the girl has a ego problem and like to dominate people. She never can admit when she is wronge and always make excuses for her mistakes. I feel sorry for her.I watched how she yelled at other coworkers when she dead wronge and they will apologize to just keep peace. Fuck that not me. Thank god I dont see her often, only when I work overtime. When I do work over I completely dismiss her, I dont say nothing and that shit pisses her off. She would do stupid shit like try to be nice to get my attention then say something mean. I dont fed into that shit. I let her say whatever she like.I feel like she obsess with me. She goes around asking people do they like me then try to get them on her side and when they dont fed into it she get upset with them. In a year period she had wrote up lettesr to managers making up liars. Her shit dont add up because they cant understand why its a problem when I work different shift then her. I can on and on about her ass.
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I don't have a lot of female friends - Those I have are always Scorpio and Aries..and the ocasionally Cancer.

There seems to be something about Libra folks and Martian Energy.. Scorpio/Aries. They either get drawn to it or repelled by it.

There was a poster a few years back called spica..going through her posts you might find some answers. She spoke from her perspective as a Libra Woman.
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I don't have a lot of female friends - Those I have are always Scorpio and Aries..and the ocasionally Cancer.

There seems to be something about Libra folks and Martian Energy.. Scorpio/Aries. They either get drawn to it or repelled by it.

There was a poster a few years back called spica..going through her posts you might find some answers. She spoke from her perspective as a Libra Woman.


Wow Damnata that is very interesting! You know why? Because I have an even WORSE track record with Aries??_although in that case it's the males!! And it's the same thing: I have a handful of Aries male exceptions in my life who are wonderful just like I have a handful of Scorpio female exceptions in my life who are wonderful. Something to look into! Thanks!! : )