Can any scorpio women help me

Posted by starlover
You pushed her too far......you didn't even meet her yet and you mentioned or hinted at sex? Is that what happened?

Subtlety is sometimes very alluring

Posted by Koniucha
Wow, two years and haven't seen each other. That is crazy! I have done the online thing, but met face to face right away.

I don't think she is really that interested, honestly.

Posted by Gobshite

Posted by cancerman0707

Posted by starlover
You pushed her too far......you didn't even meet her yet and you mentioned or hinted at sex? Is that what happened?

Subtlety is sometimes very alluring

No i tried to make it clear i wasnt going there to try and sleep with her. WHich is the truth, but i dont know if she believed it or not. We have never spoke on that kind of stuff

Dude, if she never brought up the subject of you two getting romantically involved, during those two years, it was never going to happen (unless she saw something in you, after meeting up in person, that changed her mind).

It seems that she only saw you as a friend and you may have blown that too.

Please correct me, if I've missed something.

click to expand

Posted by Gobshite

Posted by cancerman0707

Posted by Gobshite

Posted by cancerman0707

Posted by starlover
You pushed her too far......you didn't even meet her yet and you mentioned or hinted at sex? Is that what happened?

Subtlety is sometimes very alluring

No i tried to make it clear i wasnt going there to try and sleep with her. WHich is the truth, but i dont know if she believed it or not. We have never spoke on that kind of stuff

Dude, if she never brought up the subject of you two getting romantically involved, during those two years, it was never going to happen (unless she saw something in you, after meeting up in person, that changed her mind).

It seems that she only saw you as a friend and you may have blown that too.

Please correct me, if I've missed something.

The times i asked or hinted about in the past she always said she didnt know. You cant tell that sort of stuff before you meet. I think scorpios are not very open at times and maybe i pushed for too much info on how she felt towards the end. She would never give anything away either way hardly

Well, no you realise the error of your ways, all you can do is apologise and reassure her that you've learnt your lesson.

Btw, what unpleasant things did you say to her? That in itself is crucial.

click to expand

Posted by scorpx3
What you can try to do is give her some space for a while. Two to three weeks is ideal as the minimum. Do your own thing, let her miss your presence for a while. After some time has passed, message her to ask how she's doing and whatnot. Let her try to take some initiative. Scorpio women are pretty assertive and know what they want/don't want. Within due time, she'll pretty much tell you where she stands with you. You need to give it more time though. Don't push for a relationship. Just be her friend for a while. Especially in person. When you go out on dates or meet up, get to know her, let her get to know you. Make it simply about knowing each other and growing comfortable in person. Be confident and not so physically-clingy. Do your own thing and be yourself. When you're out there "doing you", she's going to want to come to you naturally. But don't ask to meet and start pushing the "more than friendship" line on her - especially if you guys haven't met in person in the two years.

Posted by Stihl46
Run you don't want to get involved with a Scorpio woman she got scared there could be a lot of things she told you were not true. As a cancer man I prefer to meet people face to face. I didn't get any indications of him mentioning sex I know you Scorpio women are prudes. Disappear on her see if she comes back if not walk away.

Posted by Stihl46
Run you don't want to get involved with a Scorpio woman she got scared there could be a lot of things she told you were not true. As a cancer man I prefer to meet people face to face. I didn't get any indications of him mentioning sex I know you Scorpio women are prudes. Disappear on her see if she comes back if not walk away.

Posted by Gobshite

Posted by cancerman0707

Posted by Gobshite

Posted by cancerman0707

Posted by Gobshite

Posted by cancerman0707

Posted by starlover
You pushed her too far......you didn't even meet her yet and you mentioned or hinted at sex? Is that what happened?

Subtlety is sometimes very alluring

No i tried to make it clear i wasnt going there to try and sleep with her. WHich is the truth, but i dont know if she believed it or not. We have never spoke on that kind of stuff

Dude, if she never brought up the subject of you two getting romantically involved, during those two years, it was never going to happen (unless she saw something in you, after meeting up in person, that changed her mind).

It seems that she only saw you as a friend and you may have blown that too.

Please correct me, if I've missed something.

The times i asked or hinted about in the past she always said she didnt know. You cant tell that sort of stuff before you meet. I think scorpios are not very open at times and maybe i pushed for too much info on how she felt towards the end. She would never give anything away either way hardly

Well, no you realise the error of your ways, all you can do is apologise and reassure her that you've learnt your lesson.

Btw, what unpleasant things did you say to her? That in itself is crucial.

She got back with her bf for a bit and it mucked up my chances. I went and said all these negative things about him that she told me in the past. She said that she had told me them things with trust and didnt expect them thrown back at her like that. Things havent been the same since

So, you 'betrayed' her. That's the worst thing you could have done. And you Cancerians can get pretty feisty when you're either frustrated or pissed off.

It's probably best to leave her alone and give her space. If she comes back to you, you can try to patch things up.

click to expand

Posted by Koniucha

Posted by cancerman0707

Posted by Gobshite

Posted by cancerman0707

Posted by starlover
You pushed her too far......you didn't even meet her yet and you mentioned or hinted at sex? Is that what happened?

Subtlety is sometimes very alluring

No i tried to make it clear i wasnt going there to try and sleep with her. WHich is the truth, but i dont know if she believed it or not. We have never spoke on that kind of stuff

Dude, if she never brought up the subject of you two getting romantically involved, during those two years, it was never going to happen (unless she saw something in you, after meeting up in person, that changed her mind).

It seems that she only saw you as a friend and you may have blown that too.

Please correct me, if I've missed something.

The times i asked or hinted about in the past she always said she didnt know. You cant tell that sort of stuff before you meet. I think scorpios are not very open at times and maybe i pushed for too much info on how she felt towards the end. She would never give anything away either way hardly

click to expand

Yes, we can definitely be not open, for sure.

But for me at least, if I like you, I make that known.

Posted by Stihl46
She will come crawling back the best thing is to just disappear it screws with their heads they like manipulating people you manipulate them back they hate it. Scorpio women are EXTREMLY insecure they need constant validation even thou they say they don't they doubt everything. Its not worth the egg shells man you are constantly walking on them with Scorpio women her ex boyfriend is probably dreading she's back.

Posted by scorpx3

Posted by cancerman0707

Posted by scorpx3
What you can try to do is give her some space for a while. Two to three weeks is ideal as the minimum. Do your own thing, let her miss your presence for a while. After some time has passed, message her to ask how she's doing and whatnot. Let her try to take some initiative. Scorpio women are pretty assertive and know what they want/don't want. Within due time, she'll pretty much tell you where she stands with you. You need to give it more time though. Don't push for a relationship. Just be her friend for a while. Especially in person. When you go out on dates or meet up, get to know her, let her get to know you. Make it simply about knowing each other and growing comfortable in person. Be confident and not so physically-clingy. Do your own thing and be yourself. When you're out there "doing you", she's going to want to come to you naturally. But don't ask to meet and start pushing the "more than friendship" line on her - especially if you guys haven't met in person in the two years.

Thank you for the good advice. I realised that was the best thing to do. Lets hope its not too late

Don't worry about it being "too late". Just focus on yourself, trust yourself and your gut instincts. Give her time, and work things out reasonably.

click to expand

Posted by Westsidekodak
This guy only wants to hear advice that fits his agenda in his head, and not what's best. Waiting and hoping for someone who has been putting you to the side for two years will not make you life easier. If she wanted to be with you, she would of never got with her ex again. She doesn't care about you in that way. Trust me, as a Cancer I've been there. She doesn't love you. Move on, there are girls dying to have you in their life. Why be with someone who doesn't even want to be with you?

Posted by Stihl46
She will come crawling back the best thing is to just disappear it screws with their heads they like manipulating people you manipulate them back they hate it. Scorpio women are EXTREMLY insecure they need constant validation even thou they say they don't they doubt everything. Its not worth the egg shells man you are constantly walking on them with Scorpio women her ex boyfriend is probably dreading she's back.

Posted by Westsidekodak

Posted by cancerman0707

Posted by Westsidekodak
This guy only wants to hear advice that fits his agenda in his head, and not what's best. Waiting and hoping for someone who has been putting you to the side for two years will not make you life easier. If she wanted to be with you, she would of never got with her ex again. She doesn't care about you in that way. Trust me, as a Cancer I've been there. She doesn't love you. Move on, there are girls dying to have you in their life. Why be with someone who doesn't even want to be with you?

No i appreciate your advice. Ive told her that im gonna just leave her to it. If she wants to forgive and meet up then im here. Its easier said than done to just cut someone off and forget about them like that

Stop giving hope and options. She had TWO YEARSSS. You spent two years waiting, and waiting... while she was off running off with this other guy. Then when she was done with him, she would unload her emotional baggage to you to make herself feel better. Now you want to sit like a dog in the rain waiting for your owner to return. You better learn how to let things go now, it only gets harder if you don't learn now.

click to expand

Posted by Westsidekodak
I mean this with all sincerity and respect ladies. Do not ever take girl advice from girls on getting a girl, they rarely know what they want, let alone know how to get it.

Posted by Infinite8

Posted by Westsidekodak

Posted by Infinite8
I agree with @scorpx3 ....

You two have been friends for two years and you kind of exploded on the commitment/feelings/relationship/lets meet stuff. She might have felt it a surprise and out of control therefore just put a stop to it and retreated. It might be a control issue and she might just need time to think about the "new" situation to get comfortable and move forward.

I agree that you should give her space. You telling her you will give space and the fact that you apologized will definitely work for you! Do your own thing and cool off. Let her cool off and miss you. Then when you reach out to her again, you will have a clearer picture of what is going on and so will she.

You losing it and throwing all that stuff about her boyfriend was not a smooth move - so, she will need to cool off about that and will need time to let it go and forgive you.

I doubt she will want to cut you off for that... She has a two year friendship with you. I'm sure she feels a bond with you and will take it to consideration. Let her think on her own 😉

She knew he has loved her since the beginning. She's not stupid or nor surprised, she just does not want to be with him in that way.

OP said he recently started asking if there was more than friendship. He asked several times and she felt pushed. Now he is giving an ultimatum? So... It's all about HIM then?!?! And his time schedule?!?! She is not allowed to think about this?!?! Not fair.

click to expand

Posted by Westsidekodak

Posted by Infinite8

Posted by Westsidekodak

Posted by Infinite8
@Westsifekodak - I find that rich coming from a Cancer, actually! Cancers are indecisive about a lot of stuff. How would you like it if someone was on your ass pushing you to decide quickly?!?! You would probably shut down since you wouldn't be allowed to think properly.

Maybe this girl needs a breather to think things through ON HER OWN without anyone's influence. Maybe all she had on her mind was friendship and her ex boyfriend. And never saw OP as potential... But now that she knows there is interest might see things different and see him in a different light?!?!

We don't know the whole story... But you guys give up quickly. And that is a turn off. If OP were a real friend, he'd have more compassion.

Easy scorp, do I seem like a typical crab to you? Of course if its been two years and both parties are on the up and up, I would expect an answer. I would make a decision.

I've had experience with this, and seen second hand experience with this many of times. She doesn't want to be with him. its been two years, you honestly think shes been close to him for two years and never thought he wanted to be with her? Let's stop being naive now.

If he was a real friend he'd stop bugging her and move on with his life because he doesn't want to be her friend, or her emotional dumpster to unload on.

I am more naive when talking about online relationships. I've never had one before so, a lot can be different. When body to body - we can read each other so quickly, instantly. So many signals being thrown out - body, voice, eyes, behavior. None of that could be read with online relationships. SOOOOOO.... I am being more sympathetic to that because it just MIGHT be different than a "normal" scenario. I've only done body/body never online.

fair enough. But the red flags are abundant on her interest level.

click to expand

Posted by Westsidekodak

Posted by HouseCleaning
Don't put out, I'll put you out, won't get out, I'll push you out.

LOL clown

click to expand

Posted by Koniucha
@scorpx3

That is exactly why I say meet in person right away.

Posted by Koniucha

Posted by cancerman0707

Posted by Koniucha
@scorpx3

That is exactly why I say meet in person right away.

Yeah i agree. I wouldnt like to be judged until i meet in person. Thats what annoys me if dont get to

How far do you live from one another?

click to expand

Posted by scorpx3
@Koniucha also I'm not saying you should be slow to meet in person. I understand you can be fast or slow to meet in person. You also claimed you know pretty quickly whether you like someone or not.

The issue here is, they had an online thing go on. When first meeting, he pulled the "let's get serious" card. Scorpios want to physically be comfortable with you before all that relationship stuff. And it could be she's got a Taurus moon or Capricorn moon/Venus that she wants to take things so slowly.

I have moon in Aries, and astrologically speaking I should be quick to make romantic moves even when meeting someone online. But there's no effing way I'd do that - totally opposite to what you stated just now - when meeting someone who has romantic potential in person.
As friends, sure, will do, why not... But romantically? You better give me a lot of time. Again, that's coming from an Aries moon and ascendant. So I can just imagine if this Scorpio has a cap moon or Taurus ascendant how slow she might wanna go.

With that said, to me, this Scorpio sounds like she wanted to get physically comfortable, be a friend in person first, see him for who he is, before taking it up a notch in terms of getting serious. That's the claim I'm making.

Posted by Koniucha

Posted by scorpx3

Posted by Koniucha
@scorpx3

That is exactly why I say meet in person right away.

Right, but the issue here isn't meeting in person right away. From what I gather, the issue was that OP said he wanted a commitment on the first day they met. Am I right or did I misunderstand that? If so, that's what is driving this Scorpio away.

So, to OP, just make her comfortable when you meet. Allow it to be like a "getting to know each other" again phase.

I guess. I went back and read what he wrote. He asked if there was a possibility of more than a friendship. After two years, that doesn't seem unreasonable to me.

Then again, who knows. We only have his side.

click to expand

Posted by Infinite8

Posted by cancerman0707

Posted by Koniucha

Posted by cancerman0707

Posted by Koniucha
@scorpx3

That is exactly why I say meet in person right away.

Yeah i agree. I wouldnt like to be judged until i meet in person. Thats what annoys me if dont get to

How far do you live from one another?

Oh very far. Im in England and she is in the states, I was supposed to be going for a week long holiday. See how it goes

Uh!!! HELLLLLLOOOOOOO!!! That is a big commitment!!! That's not a causual "let's meet at a coffee shop"!!!!

click to expand

Posted by Infinite8

Posted by cancerman0707

Posted by Koniucha

Posted by scorpx3

Posted by Koniucha
@scorpx3

That is exactly why I say meet in person right away.

Right, but the issue here isn't meeting in person right away. From what I gather, the issue was that OP said he wanted a commitment on the first day they met. Am I right or did I misunderstand that? If so, that's what is driving this Scorpio away.

So, to OP, just make her comfortable when you meet. Allow it to be like a "getting to know each other" again phase.

I guess. I went back and read what he wrote. He asked if there was a possibility of more than a friendship. After two years, that doesn't seem unreasonable to me.

Then again, who knows. We only have his side.

Yeah i always made it very clear that i knew there was a good chance it wouldnt work out like that. Im not nieve

I think you played yor cards WRONG. If you were coming to the states you should have met up with her AS FRIENDS and then made a subtle move on her when in person!

click to expand

Posted by Infinite8

Posted by cancerman0707

Posted by Infinite8

Posted by cancerman0707

Posted by Koniucha

Posted by cancerman0707

Posted by Koniucha
@scorpx3

That is exactly why I say meet in person right away.

Yeah i agree. I wouldnt like to be judged until i meet in person. Thats what annoys me if dont get to

How far do you live from one another?

Oh very far. Im in England and she is in the states, I was supposed to be going for a week long holiday. See how it goes

Uh!!! HELLLLLLOOOOOOO!!! That is a big commitment!!! That's not a causual "let's meet at a coffee shop"!!!!

Haha thats what i always say to her. Its not like i can come and meet for a coffee. I would never speak to someone local without meeting like that

This is WHY she freaked out though! It's just a heavy move on your part and she might feel overwhelmed by the heaviness of it all. Almost like a decision she can't say "hmm... After meeting you, I just didn't feel the vibe". It like she has to know before! That is a lot of pressure! Would have been easier as friends first! Then make a move once face to face.

click to expand

Posted by Infinite8
@cancerman0707 - I agree with your friend actually. You SHOULD know before you go all the way. But, what is meant by tha is... If you really wanted to know and we're going to the states, you should have played it cool and meet up with her without much commitment and then FIND OUT when you are with her face to face.

She would be responding to you, your body language, your voice and eyes. She might like it and feel safe by it and just go for it.

But commiting first online before meeting and making you come all the way from the UK might stress her out and make her super nervous. Not as enjoyable.

Right now just give her some time to herself. Give her those weeks. If you happen to go to the states, let her know and tell her "no pressure. I just want to be friends and thought it would be nice to meet you". She might say yes and you might have an opportunity THEN to change the game 😈

If not... Just let it go. Who knows she might say yes to all after a few weeks for her to think. Good luck either way.

Posted by scorpx3

Posted by Koniucha

Posted by scorpx3

Posted by Koniucha
@scorpx3

That is exactly why I say meet in person right away.

Right, but the issue here isn't meeting in person right away. From what I gather, the issue was that OP said he wanted a commitment on the first day they met. Am I right or did I misunderstand that? If so, that's what is driving this Scorpio away.

So, to OP, just make her comfortable when you meet. Allow it to be like a "getting to know each other" again phase.

I guess. I went back and read what he wrote. He asked if there was a possibility of more than a friendship. After two years, that doesn't seem unreasonable to me.

Then again, who knows. We only have his side.

You're absolutely right about that, after 2 years it's not unreasonable to be more than friends. The line that shouldn't be crossed is throwing in ultimatums on the first physical encounter...that's where I think things messed up here.

Let's not forget, as much as Scorpios love being dominated they don't want to feel controlled. She felt pushed, and clearly doesn't want that. So if he lets her have "control," goes at her pace, makes her comfortable...I bet they'll work out fine.
Besides, cancers and scorps can make a great couple. Both are emotional, jealous, clingy, etc., and the two of them have an understanding of the other's feelings/emotions/thoughts. So I don't doubt she will develop feelings for him.

click to expand

Posted by scorpx3

Posted by cancerman0707

Posted by scorpx3

Posted by Koniucha

Posted by scorpx3

Posted by Koniucha
@scorpx3

That is exactly why I say meet in person right away.

Right, but the issue here isn't meeting in person right away. From what I gather, the issue was that OP said he wanted a commitment on the first day they met. Am I right or did I misunderstand that? If so, that's what is driving this Scorpio away.

So, to OP, just make her comfortable when you meet. Allow it to be like a "getting to know each other" again phase.

I guess. I went back and read what he wrote. He asked if there was a possibility of more than a friendship. After two years, that doesn't seem unreasonable to me.

Then again, who knows. We only have his side.

You're absolutely right about that, after 2 years it's not unreasonable to be more than friends. The line that shouldn't be crossed is throwing in ultimatums on the first physical encounter...that's where I think things messed up here.

Let's not forget, as much as Scorpios love being dominated they don't want to feel controlled. She felt pushed, and clearly doesn't want that. So if he lets her have "control," goes at her pace, makes her comfortable...I bet they'll work out fine.
Besides, cancers and scorps can make a great couple. Both are emotional, jealous, clingy, etc., and the two of them have an understanding of the other's feelings/emotions/thoughts. So I don't doubt she will develop feelings for him.

Yep i will try and go along with what you say if i get another chance. I did hear that cancer and scorpio are a great match. That makes sense as we always got along so well. I wont be pushing her atall about more than friendship. Maybe i will have to about meeting though i suppose

Lol don't push. Subtle hints and sort of putting it out there for her would be your best approach.
Maybe ask a few weeks from now, "Hey, would you wanna meet up on ____?" maybe find something to do that you both like or something that interests you both. Finding activities to bond over would be lots of fun for both of you. You guys have known each other for 2 years, refer back to old conversations - there must have been something she likes a lot and mentioned that you could adhere to and go out and do that!
😄

click to expand

Posted by thinktoomuch
Once again - another topic where the advice given would have been so different if the genders were opposite: the cancer the girl, the scorpio the guy...
Not because it´s cancer/scorpio but just because of the setting.

But I dig it! Sometimes it nicer to read "stay patient" than "he just wants to fuck you".

After two years and nothing has happened, I couldn´t imagine someone really being interested in someone. But who knows? Maybe she looks a lot different than what she has told you ans feels embarrased, happens all the time. Catfish.
Or she is oblivious to your feeling snad wants you to make a move already!
Or something entirely different.

Good luck with it all.

Posted by GetMisted

Posted by cancerman0707

Posted by thinktoomuch
Once again - another topic where the advice given would have been so different if the genders were opposite: the cancer the girl, the scorpio the guy...
Not because it´s cancer/scorpio but just because of the setting.

But I dig it! Sometimes it nicer to read "stay patient" than "he just wants to fuck you".

After two years and nothing has happened, I couldn´t imagine someone really being interested in someone. But who knows? Maybe she looks a lot different than what she has told you ans feels embarrased, happens all the time. Catfish.
Or she is oblivious to your feeling snad wants you to make a move already!
Or something entirely different.

Good luck with it all.

Nah i see more than enough photos on fb and plus we have done video chat

Have you fiddled for each other on cam though?

click to expand

Posted by Infinite8

Posted by cancerman0707

Posted by thinktoomuch
Once again - another topic where the advice given would have been so different if the genders were opposite: the cancer the girl, the scorpio the guy...
Not because it´s cancer/scorpio but just because of the setting.

But I dig it! Sometimes it nicer to read "stay patient" than "he just wants to fuck you".

After two years and nothing has happened, I couldn´t imagine someone really being interested in someone. But who knows? Maybe she looks a lot different than what she has told you ans feels embarrased, happens all the time. Catfish.
Or she is oblivious to your feeling snad wants you to make a move already!
Or something entirely different.

Good luck with it all.

Nah i see more than enough photos on fb and plus we have done video chat

😕 oh really?!?! Did she flirt with you in the slightest?

click to expand

Posted by Infinite8

Posted by cancerman0707

Posted by Infinite8

Posted by cancerman0707

Posted by thinktoomuch
Once again - another topic where the advice given would have been so different if the genders were opposite: the cancer the girl, the scorpio the guy...
Not because it´s cancer/scorpio but just because of the setting.

But I dig it! Sometimes it nicer to read "stay patient" than "he just wants to fuck you".

After two years and nothing has happened, I couldn´t imagine someone really being interested in someone. But who knows? Maybe she looks a lot different than what she has told you ans feels embarrased, happens all the time. Catfish.
Or she is oblivious to your feeling snad wants you to make a move already!
Or something entirely different.

Good luck with it all.

Nah i see more than enough photos on fb and plus we have done video chat

😕 oh really?!?! Did she flirt with you in the slightest?

Nah it was a long time ago. Both times i didnt have much time really. She asked a couple more times. Im not too keen on having a camera on me though for some reason

Lol... She wanted move video to feel your vibes. She asked because she was interested. Good signs. So STOP PUSHING and digging your own grave. You might still have hope with her! 🙂

click to expand

Posted by Stihl46
Isn't the USA a long way to find a bird? No wonder she backed off that is way too much pressure for a Scorpio to handle to have a guy from the UK to meet her. She's been caught up in the allure of having a possible BF from overseas but when push comes to shove a Scorp will crack under pressure. You come over here it turns out you and her are not compatible she's going to feel guilty as phuck. I'm pretty sure she would drop a deuce in her pants from nervousness.

Posted by Infinite8
@cancerman0707 - ....Right now just give her some time to herself. Give her those weeks. If you happen to go to the states, let her know and tell her "no pressure. I just want to be friends and thought it would be nice to meet you". She might say yes and you might have an opportunity THEN to change the game 😈