
happykitsune
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Posted by THEKingofLibra
They can't help it, they do this shit subconsciously. Get a tougher skin, thats all I can say. Eventually you'll drift apart, then he'll pull you back in again, the pushing-pulling continue and you'll cave in again and eventually either won't be able to walk away thus establishing his dominance in the power struggle, or you'll walk away and never return, thus establishing his dominance in the pushing game.
Either way, you can only lose if you play his game.

Posted by THEKingofLibra
It won't sweety.

Posted by exoskeletonPosted by THEKingofLibra
They can't help it, they do this shit subconsciously. Get a tougher skin, thats all I can say. Eventually you'll drift apart, then he'll pull you back in again, the pushing-pulling continue and you'll cave in again and eventually either won't be able to walk away thus establishing his dominance in the power struggle, or you'll walk away and never return, thus establishing his dominance in the pushing game.
Either way, you can only lose if you play his game.
exactly.
happykit - it won't stop until he fully trusts you, if even then. it's still early on, right? you have a long way to go.click to expand

Posted by exoskeletonPosted by happykitsunePosted by THEKingofLibra
It won't sweety.
What are they even trying to accomplish besides dominance? Someone who doesn't have thick skin could serious be hurt by this...is that what they want?
it's not always intentional. it's a combination of pride and fear.click to expand


Posted by exoskeleton
i think things will work out. try not to focus on the fact that he is a scorpio. that works for me even though i am one, lol. just try to take things as they come with him.

Posted by THEKingofLibra
Well not Nefer, she'd rip your balls off

Posted by exoskeleton
you know this, but don't use typical scorp behavior to justify the way you're being treated. you shouldn't just accept it. eventually it can make you start doubting yourself.

Posted by NeferPosted by THEKingofLibra
Well not Nefer, she'd rip your balls off
Nope, I'm a total sweetie pie. *halo*
But to kitsune.. I've only read parts of your story with the Scorp, so I could be waaaaay off.. but the thing that keeps sticking out at me...
Power struggle. You're dating exclusively.. He's sick of it being a secret, wants it out in the open. You don't want it out in the open until it's Official, as well as exclusive. Kudos to you for sticking to your guns and sending him the message that if he doesn't feel you're good enough to be his Girlfriend (no ifs and or buts, no Dating or FWB bs title), then you won't let him parade you around as such and pretend.
The thing is.. he's trying to get his way, to assert his dominance. The power struggle. And his stinging you is to show you his displeasure that you aren't bending to his will/demands/pressure. I imagine the stinging will get worse as you dig your heels in deeper and continue to refuse to give in on this... or anything HE pushes for that YOU are not comfortable with.
So you could look at it another way.. his subtle little stings are to show his sulky displeasure.. testament and compliment to YOUR strength and stubbornness. And the secure woman of strong character (not the pushover he can boss around) will win the Scorp heart.
Once the fucker can finally trust you a little hahaclick to expand

Posted by THEKingofLibra
Haha.. Aww.. kitsune needs a hug

Posted by THEKingofLibra
Why would you feign an emotion. Be mad, go on offensive. You Sags can be sexy as hell when you are mad 😛

Posted by THEKingofLibra
Oh you mutable Sags.. so fucking adorable. You are actually afraid to push HIM away!! I.. just wanna pet you right now. You are like an innocent little white bunny thinking she is a polar bear 😄

Posted by everevolvingepithetPosted by happykitsune
My scorpio keeps feeling the need to retaliate. It's subtle, but I can tell and when I ask if it is my suspicions are confirmed. I should speak for myself though as I have a bit of a bite in me as well...ms. moon in scorpio equates to manipulation I suppose...
My question is how do I stop this stinging? Or am I just going to have to get immuned to it? It's rather annoying.
Depends on the context.
If you guys are tight, gently show him where to direct his stinger.click to expand

Posted by everevolvingepithetPosted by THEKingofLibra
Think about what would Cancers do - they would manipulate and change a story behind your back to get sympathy/back up from everyone else, you'd be the last to know.
What would Pisces do - they would tell a million and one versions of the truth and make you feel like everything is and always was your fault, anything but the truth.
I've helped KoL out here, but what he now says hold weight.click to expand


Posted by happykitsunePosted by everevolvingepithetPosted by THEKingofLibra
Think about what would Cancers do - they would manipulate and change a story behind your back to get sympathy/back up from everyone else, you'd be the last to know.
What would Pisces do - they would tell a million and one versions of the truth and make you feel like everything is and always was your fault, anything but the truth.
I've helped KoL out here, but what he now says hold weight.
Lol I didn't even notice the changes you made to that quote till just now. Glad I'm not dating a cancer or a piscesclick to expand



Posted by beautifulscorp
What are you doing to cause him to sting you? We don't just do it for the fun of it...............

Posted by everevolvingepithetPosted by DMV
the stinging will stop when you submit and allow him to possess you. but your sag sun/moon in scorpio does not make you a typical submissive person.
thats how i feel about my combo..i cant do the submissive thing. i thought i could but its not in me. i feel stifled and in a box at the mere thought of consensus. i felt like i was altering who i really am as a person when i was involved with that scorpio. i felt like i couldnt be me.
I think it works both ways with the possession. 🙂
You were happy to feel those changes 'til you changed your mind about him though, iirc ?
Plus he was married (sorry) so I'd say the situation is somewhat different, leaving astro out of it for a second.click to expand

Posted by everevolvingepithet
Without pointing fingers, at least there isn't the air of "I do as I please it's my world, and it's different if you do it" in HK's posts, if Sag stereotypes are to be employed.

Posted by everevolvingepithetPosted by DMVPosted by everevolvingepithet
Without pointing fingers, at least there isn't the air of "I do as I please it's my world, and it's different if you do it" in HK's posts, if Sag stereotypes are to be employed.
what do you mean? like the double standard thing?
Damn ! you're getting quicker at this !🙂click to expand

Posted by everevolvingepithetPosted by DMVPosted by everevolvingepithetPosted by DMV
the stinging will stop when you submit and allow him to possess you. but your sag sun/moon in scorpio does not make you a typical submissive person.
thats how i feel about my combo..i cant do the submissive thing. i thought i could but its not in me. i feel stifled and in a box at the mere thought of consensus. i felt like i was altering who i really am as a person when i was involved with that scorpio. i felt like i couldnt be me.
I think it works both ways with the possession. 🙂
You were happy to feel those changes 'til you changed your mind about him though, iirc ?
Plus he was married (sorry) so I'd say the situation is somewhat different, leaving astro out of it for a second.
no there was always a evident power struggle even before the shit hit the fan with the whole marriage thing.
Which is why you did it for so long, otherwise you'd just walk over men and ind a reason why they weren't worthy.click to expand

Posted by beautifulscorp
What are you doing to cause him to sting you? We don't just do it for the fun of it...............

Posted by happykitsunePosted by beautifulscorp
What are you doing to cause him to sting you? We don't just do it for the fun of it...............
The things I do are innocent. Like take for instance me telling him about this guy trying to invite me over. I didn't really want to tell him because then he might freak out and not trust me, but I did anyway because I wanted to be honest and let him know I shot the guy down. Then he turns around and shoves a situation with a girl in my face where he still has "tension" with her. I got onto him about that. There were other things, but really they were not missles aimed at him to hurt him in any way. Now maybe he saw it that way and that's why I got the sting...I'd appreciate it if he were as understanding as I was though.
Btw he texted me early this morning and was supposedly sleeping when I called him last night...I'm having a hard time believing he went to bed at 11, but I suppose it's possible with as busy as his schedule is. Still gonna have lunch with him. Now I don't know if there is anything more to talk about since he was sleeping and I shouldn't accuse him if that is indeed the truth. Oh if only I could see when people were lying. So hard to figure out when you've only known the person in question for a few weeksclick to expand

Posted by THEKingofLibra
Heh heh. Just assume that everyone is lying and look for motives. Eventually its gonna be like precognitive shit, before they even open your mouth you know what they want and how they will lie to get it

Posted by everevolvingepithetPosted by DMVPosted by everevolvingepithetPosted by DMVPosted by everevolvingepithetPosted by DMV
the stinging will stop when you submit and allow him to possess you. but your sag sun/moon in scorpio does not make you a typical submissive person.
thats how i feel about my combo..i cant do the submissive thing. i thought i could but its not in me. i feel stifled and in a box at the mere thought of consensus. i felt like i was altering who i really am as a person when i was involved with that scorpio. i felt like i couldnt be me.
I think it works both ways with the possession. 🙂
You were happy to feel those changes 'til you changed your mind about him though, iirc ?
Plus he was married (sorry) so I'd say the situation is somewhat different, leaving astro out of it for a second.
no there was always a evident power struggle even before the shit hit the fan with the whole marriage thing.
Which is why you did it for so long, otherwise you'd just walk over men and ind a reason why they weren't worthy.
so what do you suggest i should have done to make things easier (leaving the whole marriage thing out). hypothetically.
Hmmm, I dunno. Without trying to be too black and white and shoot myself in the foot at the same time, submit to him 🙂
I'm not saying don't be yourself in public and similar, if anything feisty women are cute when they do that, I'm not bothered by any of that shizz tbh (A true mark of a man, it's always the quiet ones as they say 🙂 ) but push too hard with that angle and the whole deck falls down.
Men wear the trousers, good ones don't mind sharing.
I posted something along these lines (I think) in templeofjaguar's thread.🙂click to expand

Posted by THEKingofLibraPosted by happykitsune
The things I do are innocent.
Morning sunshine 😄
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Posted by DMVPosted by happykitsune
so you guys have only been dating for a few weeks. where is the honeymoon type stuff at? i read through a few of your recent posts and it seems like confusion, suggestion, suspicion (sp?),jealousy, possession. any good stuff going on?click to expand
Oh yeah the good far outweighs the bad. But no one really ever posts the good stuff about their relationships on here. Mostly my posts are meant to help me with the bad that's going on.
Quite honestly he's doing quite well compared to the other scorpios I've read about. These minor stings are really just an annoyance and I think really the little things can become far more magnified when you're so pampered in a relationship. I was surprised that even after we'd had a night fooling around he still wanted to take me out on a date to get to know me better and he doesn't want us to do the sex until he has fallen in love with me. I know that sounds kinda cheesy and who knows, we may slip and end up doing it sooner, but I admire the thought behind it. He really is a romantic, but an animal at the same time and the conversation is very engaging. He has the same religion as I do and he always makes me laugh. Big pluses there. So yes, it's going well...just bumps that I'd like to smooth out so that this relationship will go well when we finally do make it official

Posted by THEKingofLibraPosted by DMVPosted by THEKingofLibra
Heh heh. Just assume that everyone is lying and look for motives. Eventually its gonna be like precognitive shit, before they even open your mouth you know what they want and how they will lie to get it
thats no way to live.
See? I know you lying cause you feel ashamed about being so trusting towards others and being burned time and time again. Also you trying to say there is good in people, to which I'll tell you the good doesn't eclipse the lies and its my prerogative to detect such lies and counter their waysclick to expand

Posted by happykitsunePosted by DMVPosted by happykitsune
so you guys have only been dating for a few weeks. where is the honeymoon type stuff at? i read through a few of your recent posts and it seems like confusion, suggestion, suspicion (sp?),jealousy, possession. any good stuff going on?
Oh yeah the good far outweighs the bad. But no one really ever posts the good stuff about their relationships on here. Mostly my posts are meant to help me with the bad that's going on.
Quite honestly he's doing quite well compared to the other scorpios I've read about. These minor stings are really just an annoyance and I think really the little things can become far more magnified when you're so pampered in a relationship. I was surprised that even after we'd had a night fooling around he still wanted to take me out on a date to get to know me better and he doesn't want us to do the sex until he has fallen in love with me. I know that sounds kinda cheesy and who knows, we may slip and end up doing it sooner, but I admire the thought behind it. He really is a romantic, but an animal at the same time and the conversation is very engaging. He has the same religion as I do and he always makes me laugh. Big pluses there. So yes, it's going well...just bumps that I'd like to smooth out so that this relationship will go well when we finally do make it officialclick to expand
than i would concentrate on the good things. sometimes our moon in scorpio has a tendency to get wrapped up in the annoyances and our imgination starts to run wild. we may ever get obsessed with posting the bad things. if he stings you, return it with love. erase the fear of what if.

Posted by everevolvingepithet
To DMV: Well there you go.
It's fun if you're taking it in turns and you realise each others boundaries/breaking point/don't cross that line (too much, especially when the painter's are in)
🙂

Posted by scorsagianXPosted by happykitsunePosted by THEKingofLibra
Haha.. Aww.. kitsune needs a hug
Yeah or a lil more guidance. We're suppose to have lunch tomorrow. I'm trying to decide if I should act really sad that I wasn't able to see him or play it off like nothing even happened
Dont act...However your feeling when you see him, then thats what you should show him. If your pissed, be pissed. Dont sugarcoat your true feelings.click to expand

Posted by scorsagianXPosted by happykitsunePosted by THEKingofLibra
Haha.. Aww.. kitsune needs a hug
Yeah or a lil more guidance. We're suppose to have lunch tomorrow. I'm trying to decide if I should act really sad that I wasn't able to see him or play it off like nothing even happened
Dont act...However your feeling when you see him, then thats what you should show him. If your pissed, be pissed. Dont sugarcoat your true feelings.click to expand

Posted by happykitsunePosted by scorsagianXPosted by happykitsunePosted by THEKingofLibra
Haha.. Aww.. kitsune needs a hug
Yeah or a lil more guidance. We're suppose to have lunch tomorrow. I'm trying to decide if I should act really sad that I wasn't able to see him or play it off like nothing even happened
Dont act...However your feeling when you see him, then thats what you should show him. If your pissed, be pissed. Dont sugarcoat your true feelings.
Lol, that's a little hard for me. I'm mellowed now tho. I can go into lunch feeling like I can talk to him without taking out his tracheaclick to expand

Posted by THEKingofLibraPosted by happykitsunePosted by scorsagianXPosted by happykitsunePosted by THEKingofLibra
Haha.. Aww.. kitsune needs a hug
Yeah or a lil more guidance. We're suppose to have lunch tomorrow. I'm trying to decide if I should act really sad that I wasn't able to see him or play it off like nothing even happened
Dont act...However your feeling when you see him, then thats what you should show him. If your pissed, be pissed. Dont sugarcoat your true feelings.
Lol, that's a little hard for me. I'm mellowed now tho. I can go into lunch feeling like I can talk to him without taking out his trachea
Won't it be hilarious if he blows you off to hang with his friends 😛click to expand


Posted by DMV
what is up with the angry sex? i like fun sex.


Posted by happykitsunePosted by DMV
what is up with the angry sex? i like fun sex.
Actually angry sex is quite fun :3
Sorry about the trachea bit. I got very worked up last night and needless to say if he'd been there I might have hammerfisted some balls and perhaps a faceclick to expand

Posted by everevolvingepithet
Anywhere else except balls and I guess the neck too.


Posted by THEKingofLibra
What kinda gayhomo eats a cake 😛

Posted by dofacc
"astrology aside, it sounds like she had hidden resentments against you that were never resolved."
I definitely agree with this thought. But, that was part of the problem for us, and what I think I am seeing in this thread. Assorted conflicts that aren't examined and talked about. Hidden agendas, game playing, simply not being open and honest. Sting, after sting, after sting, simply to watch someone else squirm. This is not a healthy relationship, young as it is. It won't get better.
He wants to play games, she is willing to play along. It will simply get worse and worse as time goes on.

Posted by THEKingofLibra
I can make a delicious kava kava-phenibut-melatonin-valerian brownie that will put you in a coma till spring break.

Posted by aPiscesPrincessPosted by happykitsunePosted by beautifulscorp
What are you doing to cause him to sting you? We don't just do it for the fun of it...............
The things I do are innocent. Like take for instance me telling him about this guy trying to invite me over. I didn't really want to tell him because then he might freak out and not trust me, but I did anyway because I wanted to be honest and let him know I shot the guy down. Then he turns around and shoves a situation with a girl in my face where he still has "tension" with her. I got onto him about that. There were other things, but really they were not missles aimed at him to hurt him in any way. Now maybe he saw it that way and that's why I got the sting...I'd appreciate it if he were as understanding as I was though.
He acts a lot like my Scorp ex did. What I would do when he would do those little retaliation stings would just try to ignore it and act like I didn't even notice. Because of course they're doing it to get a reaction or to make you feel the same way you made them feel (even though what you did was innocent, but unintentionally made him jealous). But when you can't ignore it, just tell him how it's making you feel, and that if he wants things to work with you he can't keep trying to hurt you. Don't let him walk all over you, but also don't be insensitive either. There's always some kind of power struggle with Scorpios (and water signs in general).. they like to feel like they have the power and control in the relationship, but you have to take back your own power (but in a gentle way, being sensitive to his feelings too).
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Posted by aPiscesPrincessPosted by happykitsune
Yeah, I ignored the first time he retaliated. The second time I had a talk with him about it. And I guess technically this last time was nothing so I guess I'm doing pretty good. I figured he was trying to get a reaction out of me when he retaliated since the last scorpio I was with did the same thing and I just ignored it and he'd leave me alone. Thanks for the advice.
Yeah they can be buttheads lol 🙂 You have a Scorp moon right? I know it can be hard, especially for those of us with water suns or moons, to just keep taking the tests and 'stings' without trying to retaliate back (it's hard for me too I have to admit lol). Our first instinct can be to want to retaliate to 'teach him a lesson' for hurting us, especially if he hurt you on purpose because of something you did unintentionally. But then that just sets a never ending cycle of hurting each other. So it's better to talk things out instead of just reacting out of hurt feelings. But it looks like you got a lot of good advice here, and like you're on the right track 🙂click to expand
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My question is how do I stop this stinging? Or am I just going to have to get immuned to it? It's rather annoying.