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She has been my friend for 10+ years and is the mother of my best friend's son. I was the first one there when their child was born, and have been close to her as a friend all these years. I have been her ear when she was down, and much more to list. We are friends only, and have never made any moves on each other, also because she is my best friend's baby momma.

Anyways, about two weeks ago, I broke her trust, and she was absolutely furious. It indirectly included my friend, who got mixed up in the middle. They have had their issues prior to this, but I compounded them. He and I are cool, but considering how long I have known her, and been a true friend, is there any way she will accept my sincere apology? BTW, she told me she hates me, but deep down I have this feeling like the good we have had will outweigh this one time bad incident.. Any opinions appreciated.
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Posted by hardcandy
agent :O

may I ask what u did?

I don't forgive...just me, I can't or won't rather

if u hurt me u made a decision to do so

my forgiving of urmistake wasn't part of the bargain u decided to take

if ur so concerned now didnt u hesitate b4 doing it?

I've ousted blood who cross'd the line



She was being rather sneaky (way too long of a story) and I said something out of impulse, which I regret, because I felt she burned me as a friend. It was not pre-planned, it just happened.
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agent :O

may I ask what u did?

I don't forgive...just me, I can't or won't rather

if u hurt me u made a decision to do so

my forgiving of urmistake wasn't part of the bargain u decided to take

if ur so concerned now didnt u hesitate b4 doing it?

I've ousted blood who cross'd the line



She was being rather sneaky (way too long of a story) and I said something out of impulse, which I regret, because I felt she burned me as a friend. It was not pre-planned, it just happened.
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True.
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Posted by LovelyScorp
damn. i'm off today.



No, I thought that too. I thought he was a Libra. Here's why:

He just has more compassion and care-level for this woman than a typical Sag

...and... he is WILLING to do WHATEVER it takes to keep her in his life
even if he has to BEND for that to happen. BUT ... she was the one who
was being a dumb-ass ( wow so rare for a Scorp, not to mention a Scorp WOMAN )
and really, she's just testing him right now. She needs him more than ever.

It is obvious though that he is in love with her, she is in love with HIM ...in a way.
And the best friend makes it VERY complicated because she is not happy with him
because he is not showing her the attention she wants and needs and is acting out
...getting ready to RUN even.

Do you see this, AgentsS —

A HANDWRITTEN LETTER ( because you know she'll slam a door in your face ...though
you won't understand WHY ...or WHAT she wants you to actually DO )


Dear (Her name)

I have been your friend for over a decade.
I don't believe I have EVER let you down or left you in a bad way.
You are also the mother of the child of my best friend, which makes
this even more complicated and difficult for me to write. I know
you would just slam a door in my face if I came to apologize in
person. And a phone call from me? You wouldn't even answer it
... except to enjoy hanging up on me! ( and you KNOW it! )

I am SO sorry that the event occurred.
I am SO sorry that I broke your trust and confidence in me.
There is no excuse for it.

I understand why you said you hate me. But I CARE a LOT about YOU.

I didn't know how else to APPROACH the problem that I see you
you getting into. I know you are unhappy about certain things.
And I know that this could result in great difficulty for you
and our relationship in the long run.

So, I kinda hated you, too. Well, not really hated "you" but
the things you were doing and the fact you didn't come to me
to have me help you sort it out. I was and am concerned about you.

It's funny though that hate is not the opposite of love.
Indifference is. That's why two old friends can care a lot
about each other and hate each other at the same time.

To maintain your friendship, truly, I'd get down on my knees
and tell you how sorry I am for breaking your trust in me.

But ... there is something more important to me than havin
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GOD DAMNED FORUM - NO CHARACTER WARNING

But ... there is something more important to me than having
you back in my life "totally forgiven" and that is helping
you to avoid the problems you are headed for. I know you
are unhappy about certain things and you feel like running away.

I'm concerned about you. ( You know what I'm saying, right? )

Come and talk to me instead and let's see if we can fix it.

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Posted by AgentsS
I want to point out that she has just as much to with our falling out as me, but I can't explain everything. Remember this was NOT a romantic relationship, but a good, strong friendship for 10 + years that hit a roadblock only 2 weeks ago.



oddly enuff I've always let those in the romance slide a bit more than friends ...why? cuz love & sexual attraction cloud things *narrows eyes at agent* no attraction huh? ok then ur in more trouble friends r held in high regard we gather them with much pride it's why we protect them as much...

sneaky eh? hhmmm, maliciously so? or harmlessly so u said it involved ur friend but was it hurtful or just eventfull?

more info may be needed

but if she was as much to blame why r u scared? < lack of better term ;P
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@Scorpiopics...Very nice idea for a letter. I will definitely take it into consideration. As far as her not being happy that I don't show her attention....I am not sure about that. She had an idea that I might of had a crush on her, and she seemed scared and confused because of her baby dad, my friend. That would have been absolute betrayal on both our part if we did that to him. He was already pissed that her and I were hanging out, which we have done on many occasions, so the attention was there. She started to sort of push away after I told her I felt a little spark from her and same from me. I actually felt it, and she said "Well, maybe I was just flirting." She said she couldn't cross the boundary because of my friendship with her ex and I agreed, but was worried that she was scared and that we would lose our friendship. I sort of went into a panic mode, but didn't really over do it with the texts, etc.


2 weeks ago it boiled over after I found out some sneaky stuff, and had to let her ex know. I mean he is my closest friend. He was also pumping my head up about her saying I f****d up her car when changing her thermostat, which I know she didn't say.....now.

What hurts now is he is trying to get temp. custody of their son with the ok from her whole family. She has had it rough, not knowing her dad and a mom who she says was never there for her and always in the club. Guess what? She is heading down that same path and more than likely back on drugs. She always told me she didn't want that to happen to her son and didn't want to work at the club for money, so I re-did her whole resume, but since she is mad at me, it is probably collecting dust. She has been evicted, a car that doesn't hardly run, and as far as I know not spending time with her son. It breaks my damn heart, but if I get mixed up in the middle again, I would probably lose another friend. Her and I both were being dumbasses, not just her.


@ScorpioDreamer: She has a stong personality from having a rough life, but also has low self esttem so she is really hard to read. She rarely shows her emotions on her sleeve, but I can't tell you how many times I was there to console her through many different situations, mostly her problems with the ex. She is the nicest person, but can definitely show you the harsh side of her.
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Posted by LadyLibra12
You'll be lucky if all she does is refuse to speak to you or have anything to do with you. If what you did was a major offense, there's a good chance that she'll be out for revenge. If she's a higher-evolved Scorpio, she will probably sting you and then be done with you. However, if you have just angered an average or lower-evolved Scorpio, you are in for a LOT of heartache. A Scorpio who has been wronged will make your life hell: it won't necessarily happen right away, but it will happen at the most opportune moment for the Scorpio.

I doubt that she will sincerely accept your apology. Trust is a big deal to Scorpios: with them, it's very difficult to earn and very easy to lose. Even if she does forgive you (which is rare for a Scorpio), she will never forget what happened. If she does forgive you, it will not be for a VERY long time and not without good reason. Plus, even if she *seems* to forgive you, it might be a set-up. I've known Scorpios who have pretended to forgive just to get close to their enemies for the sole purpose of stinging them. On top of that, if a Scorpio does get revenge, whatever they do to you will be far worse than what you did to them. They don't just like to get even: they like to win. Suffice to say, Scorpio is the worst sign person to have as an enemy--one of the best to have as a true friend, but you definitely do not want to be on a Scorpio's bad side.

I sense, though, that you truly regret what you've done, so for that reason I do hope that she can at least not hate you someday. However, I don't think that it's likely. If she does forgive you, be very careful the second time around. And even if she doesn't, you have obviously learned some big lessons here, so these will be helpful in future friendships. I'm sure that this is small consolation, but still, what you have learned from this experience might be very valuable if you ever find another really good friend of her caliber.

Since you do seem remorseful, I hope that all works out for the best for you.





What do you mean by higher/lower evolved Scorpio?
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Ok Man, AgentsS

... this is a tough one.

It comes down to this:

1 - Is her ex ( your friend ) a Scorpio?

2 - Can you see yourself IN ANOTHER CITY raising his son?

3 - Who is more important to you? Best Friend or the woman you love?
( and don't give us any BULL S.Hi.T ok? Both LovelyScorp and I know the Scorpio/Sagittarius attraction )
( we also know it is NOT designed to last and SHE will get hurt ...badly ...wanna do that? )

You do need to chose in this situation.
BUT...she only hates you cuz she loves you and can't tell you.
( even if it want complicated with the friend ..she STILL couldnt tell you )

But answer those questions. I feel your pain, man. I wanna help.



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as I said if intimacy is involved there is more of an allowance

& now knowing it's a mutual attraction thing I say yes she was being sneaky which will only prolong the prospect of u hooking up without hiding...the stuff with her child & him doing something so drastic as to punish her ...weeell that explains her sneakiness a lil

only pusue this with her if u feel it's true there r consequences that will be long standing either way

wish u luck
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oh dear, you have thing for her.

this all makes sense now.

tsk. tsk.




I don't know what I feel. I just want my friend back.



omg. you are even tugging at my heart strings. damn it you. i'm supposed to be shunning male sags for life. you are making me want to hold you myself.

have you told her that? Just that sentence, with no other "filler" words.

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Not yet. I haven't talked to her. I may just write an apology letter and include that.
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Ok Man, AgentsS

... this is a tough one.

It comes down to this:

1 - Is her ex ( your friend ) a Scorpio?

2 - Can you see yourself IN ANOTHER CITY raising his son?

3 - Who is more important to you? Best Friend or the woman you love?
( and don't give us any BULL S.Hi.T ok? Both LovelyScorp and I know the Scorpio/Sagittarius attraction )
( we also know it is NOT designed to last and SHE will get hurt ...badly ...wanna do that? )

You do need to chose in this situation.
BUT...she only hates you cuz she loves you and can't tell you.
( even if it want complicated with the friend ..she STILL couldnt tell you )

But answer those questions. I feel your pain, man. I wanna help.





1. No he was born mid August. Leo I believe
2. Not even a possibility. I couldn't do that.
3 I have to choose my best friend. I am just friends with her, not lovers.
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as I said if intimacy is involved there is more of an allowance

& now knowing it's a mutual attraction thing I say yes she was being sneaky which will only prolong the prospect of u hooking up without hiding...the stuff with her child & him doing something so drastic as to punish her ...weeell that explains her sneakiness a lil

only pusue this with her if u feel it's true there r consequences that will be long standing either way

wish u luck




I am just trying to repair our friendship. I'm not even thinking of getting her into bed. I would have already tried.
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Ok Man, AgentsS

... this is a tough one.

It comes down to this:

1 - Is her ex ( your friend ) a Scorpio?

2 - Can you see yourself IN ANOTHER CITY raising his son?

3 - Who is more important to you? Best Friend or the woman you love?
( and don't give us any BULL S.Hi.T ok? Both LovelyScorp and I know the Scorpio/Sagittarius attraction )
( we also know it is NOT designed to last and SHE will get hurt ...badly ...wanna do that? )

You do need to chose in this situation.
BUT...she only hates you cuz she loves you and can't tell you.
( even if it want complicated with the friend ..she STILL couldnt tell you )

But answer those questions. I feel your pain, man. I wanna help.





I don't know if she loves me. She would never show it because of her son and his dad.
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lol i love how all the scorps and people here are like "nope! your fucked".

yes dude, the good WILL outweigh the bad.



THANK YOU.

To the OP: I believe you. Remember, she is a human being FIRST and a scorpio SECOND, meaning she is a creature of habit:

If you are that much a part of her life as you claim as to be "Uncle X" to her son, things will be okay in the long run.

She won't forget, sure, but not because she is a scorp.

Long as YOU don't acknowledge whatever grudge she may try to hold and keep things moving, she'll drop it eventually.





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Agent, (happy to see a jolly Sagittarius man posting on the Scorpio board ~ greetings


As to your dilemma...

Leo and Scorpio relation can never be deep. Therefore, i do not believe her relation with husband was mentally a very stimulating one... at least not for Scorpio. Leo man promises a lot, but accomplishes little. It's hard for us Scorps to stay for long on superficial level,

but aside from speculative analysis, I know the dynamics between Scorpio woman and Sagittarius man.

Even as friends, it is stimulating because we show each other the different sides of a coin. I won't even go into the sexual stuff (that's truly heavenly!) 😄 What makes it difficult to work for SAG & SCORP, is HIS need for freely roaming and her need to feel secure in her known surrounding (be it places or people).

The Sagittarius men I met have been always smooth talkers, blunt but with firm reasoning. What YOU did wrong here was going behind her back. I didn't quite understand your story with the who *f'd* up who's thermostate and the 'he' and 'shes', but going from her back was a bad move on your part. You should have confronted HER, not warn the ex as a first reaction.

What's been done is done. If you want to fix your relation with Scorp lady, be blunt, honest and carry your heart together with your mind. Not difficult to do for a Sag.

Highlight the issue it will NOT HAPPEN AGAIN*.
Why we cut off people is because we believe that all this time we trusted you dearly and whole-heartedly, you have been having SECOND THOUGHTS about us and you are unreliable as a friend. When we entrust you into our private life, we don't want you to run to the enemy (the person who can hurt us the most) and blab out our whereabouts.

YOU were the sneaky party to her. Regardless of your blood-relation or best friend status, you will not be welcomed back. Not as a rule.
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I sense she has more-than-just-a-friend liking for you. If you want her back, don't give up. Try to get her trust back by being honest with her and yourself, but keep your mind VEEERY open. Listen to what she says... and try to understand her. Then only she will consider you back. It may take time. Don't judge her for the things she is planning on doing. If there is no other way for her to work in a club to look after her kid — then be supportive! Tell her she should see this as a temporary solution ... blah blah blah

This is a sensitive relation you have with both, your best friend and Her. Eventually, you may need to make a decision as to who stays, who goes. Consider well if you want to fix this 'friendship', because you will be always in the cross fire. Also consider if your best friend would give up on a woman for you, if he considers her as very close, cares much and has very special liking for her. Would he give up on a woman for YOU?
Good luck!
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Agent, (happy to see a jolly Sagittarius man posting on the Scorpio board ~ greetings


As to your dilemma...

Leo and Scorpio relation can never be deep. Therefore, i do not believe her relation with husband was mentally a very stimulating one... at least not for Scorpio. Leo man promises a lot, but accomplishes little. It's hard for us Scorps to stay for long on superficial level,

but aside from speculative analysis, I know the dynamics between Scorpio woman and Sagittarius man.

Even as friends, it is stimulating because we show each other the different sides of a coin. I won't even go into the sexual stuff (that's truly heavenly!) 😄 What makes it difficult to work for SAG & SCORP, is HIS need for freely roaming and her need to feel secure in her known surrounding (be it places or people).

The Sagittarius men I met have been always smooth talkers, blunt but with firm reasoning. What YOU did wrong here was going behind her back. I didn't quite understand your story with the who *f'd* up who's thermostate and the 'he' and 'shes', but going from her back was a bad move on your part. You should have confronted HER, not warn the ex as a first reaction.

What's been done is done. If you want to fix your relation with Scorp lady, be blunt, honest and carry your heart together with your mind. Not difficult to do for a Sag.

Highlight the issue it will NOT HAPPEN AGAIN*.
Why we cut off people is because we believe that all this time we trusted you dearly and whole-heartedly, you have been having SECOND THOUGHTS about us and you are unreliable as a friend. When we entrust you into our private life, we don't want you to run to the enemy (the person who can hurt us the most) and blab out our whereabouts.

YOU were the sneaky party to her. Regardless of your blood-relation or best friend status, you will not be welcomed back. Not as a rule.



Well, I can't get in touch with her to tell her anything. She told me a few weeks ago she was blocking my number, but she didn't as I was able to leave a voice mail. He tells me he wants her out of his and his son's life. He has taken temporary custody and tells me she doesn't give a shit. That worried me, because I know deep down she does, so I tried to call her. One of the last things she told me was that she was going to get with this old high school friend to piss h
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Scorpios have always been frightening people when I've let them into my life. As far as forgiveness goes, she'll probably tolerate you because you're her child's friend and her man's friend, but don't expect her not to snip at you. Scorpios always seem to be like angry pit bulls in my opinion.



She isn't with him anymore. He won't have anything to do with her now.
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LS,

i know we can be labelled as stalkers, but have you looked him up over the internet... such as facebook, myspace, school-related sites? Do you have any means for his contact information?

I think Scorp/Sag is a combo that can work in later years. We are too intense for Sag. He might be married, girlfriended or not, however, it would be somewhat therapeutic to place him.

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Agent,

if she is my kinda Scorp.. she will not block you.

Yes, do get in touch with her. You may apologize but also ask if you can please talk to her in person. Perhaps meet somewhere and just talk. Don't mention anything about wanting to help her. We don't take 'help' very lightly. You may mention that you miss her friendship and you want to make things right.


Secondly, your friend has no right to separate their child from the mother. If he likes it or not, he has a life-long responsibility to that child to share him with his mother. That's the healthy way to go.

Right now she might be upset for not being able to get in touch with her child, her failed relationship, being tied in money, and on top, your disloyalty towards your friendship (am sorry.. don't mean to come harsh with my words), but i am guessing she feels quite battled and is reacting to all.

you can be the good for her. Depends on how much you want to take on her troubles.

it also sounds childish that she decided to get back with an highschool ex to piss your friend off.. perhaps she was just thinking out loud in anger but will realize that this will be a wrong move.

To sum it up, try staying in touch with her. Sounds like you care more for her than she is aware of.

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Agent,

if she is my kinda Scorp.. she will not block you.

Yes, do get in touch with her. You may apologize but also ask if you can please talk to her in person. Perhaps meet somewhere and just talk. Don't mention anything about wanting to help her. We don't take 'help' very lightly. You may mention that you miss her friendship and you want to make things right.


Secondly, your friend has no right to separate their child from the mother. If he likes it or not, he has a life-long responsibility to that child to share him with his mother. That's the healthy way to go.

Right now she might be upset for not being able to get in touch with her child, her failed relationship, being tied in money, and on top, your disloyalty towards your friendship (am sorry.. don't mean to come harsh with my words), but i am guessing she feels quite battled and is reacting to all.

you can be the good for her. Depends on how much you want to take on her troubles.

it also sounds childish that she decided to get back with an highschool ex to piss your friend off.. perhaps she was just thinking out loud in anger but will realize that this will be a wrong move.

To sum it up, try staying in touch with her. Sounds like you care more for her than she is aware of.




That does make me feel better. The reason with my friend cutting her off from their son is that seh is back in the clu, more than likely doing drugs. She was supposed to keep him for school year, he keeps during summer. He told me the principal told him that his son was late to school by a lot 4 days in a row 2 weeks agao. That on top of her being sneaky, the club, possibly drugs, that is why he is trying to get full parental rights. From what he said, her whole family is claiming she is unfit. If she is on drugs, and sleeping around and neglecting her son, then yes he has a right. Other than that I know she is a good mom. He could be BSing both of us to make us hate each other. He also said I will have to be a witness for him if/when they go to court. I am in a clusterf**k of a situation.
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"I know you are going through some difficult times. I'm here if you'd like to talk."

Text it...and wait.



That could work, but it may not considering all the factors that led up to where it is now.



She looks as though she's being alienated from everyone right now. If that is not the case, she will alienate herself anyways. Your male friend is in retaliation mode. A simple text message like that to someone who feels completely alone could be what she needs right now.

But, seriously, keep any romantic notions to yourself. It looks like she desperately needs a friend right now. Don't twist the feelings. That is the worse thing you can do at this moment.
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Don't know how alone she is if she has new friends now, but they are probably only a band aid for the problem. As far as the text, I have a saved draft that is rather long as far as text messages go. It includes my apology to her which I have not done yet.
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That does make me feel better. The reason with my friend cutting her off from their son is that seh is back in the clu, more than likely doing drugs. She was supposed to keep him for school year, he keeps during summer. He told me the principal told him that his son was late to school by a lot 4 days in a row 2 weeks agao. That on top of her being sneaky, the club, possibly drugs, that is why he is trying to get full parental rights. From what he said, her whole family is claiming she is unfit. If she is on drugs, and sleeping around and neglecting her son, then yes he has a right. Other than that I know she is a good mom. He could be BSing both of us to make us hate each other. He also said I will have to be a witness for him if/when they go to court. I am in a clusterf**k of a situation.
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As you said, your friend might be Bsing you both. Don't listen too much to the 'He said, She said' stories, but gather your own facts. Perhaps she was working night shifts and had a hard time getting up. There might be many other reasons why she was late dropping off the son to school.

We Scorps don't make friends quickly. It seems we are social butterflies, but our true friends are only a few. It takes a long time until we trust someone. I very much agree with what LovelyScorp says... she must feel alone.

Read over your saved text message again. If you want to add or delete parts, do so.. but then just send it. Don't worry about the length 🙂
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That does make me feel better. The reason with my friend cutting her off from their son is that seh is back in the clu, more than likely doing drugs. She was supposed to keep him for school year, he keeps during summer. He told me the principal told him that his son was late to school by a lot 4 days in a row 2 weeks agao. That on top of her being sneaky, the club, possibly drugs, that is why he is trying to get full parental rights. From what he said, her whole family is claiming she is unfit. If she is on drugs, and sleeping around and neglecting her son, then yes he has a right. Other than that I know she is a good mom. He could be BSing both of us to make us hate each other. He also said I will have to be a witness for him if/when they go to court. I am in a clusterf**k of a situation.



As you said, your friend might be Bsing you both. Don't listen too much to the 'He said, She said' stories, but gather your own facts. Perhaps she was working night shifts and had a hard time getting up. There might be many other reasons why she was late dropping off the son to school.

We Scorps don't make friends quickly. It seems we are social butterflies, but our true friends are only a few. It takes a long time until we trust someone. I very much agree with what LovelyScorp says... she must feel alone.

Read over your saved text message again. If you want to add or delete parts, do so.. but then just send it. Don't worry about the length 🙂
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Believe me, I have been editing that text message the last few days. It has totaled 6 messages to get my apology across.
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I pissed one off too. But, she is my superior. Fcuk her though, man. She pisses me off all the time and she's gonna make me hurt her feelings sooner than later.


But, yea, this is about your friend. Idk. She's YOUR friend. After 10 years, you can (or should be able to) pretty much predict how she'll respond. Saying you broke her trust is kind of vague and gives no ideas surrounding the circumstances of the conflict. My guess is, because you've been friends for so long, it won't be so easy to up and cut you off, although, it can be done.
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Posted by LovelyScorp
then hit the SEND button silly boy!!



I called her, but her phone went straight to voicemail. She says in her message that it broke. I am pretty sure I know why. So, I left her a sincere apology via voicemail. I have no idea if she listened or deleted it as soon as she heard my voice. I did speak to one of her friend's today who was sort of caught up in this whole deal. She said that I owe her (my friend) an apology. I guess they haven't spoken about it, so I told her I already apologized.
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Posted by Mr Nice
What did you do to make her be this way?



As far as her being a certain way, I 'm not sure what you mean. Long story short, I was upset with her, told her baby dad (my best friend) about her sneakiness, probably f****d her plans up to piss off my friend, arguing, name calling, him telling her s**t to piss her off at me, him telling me s**t to iss me off at her, etc. There is more on the 1st page of this thread. That should hopefully tell you what started this whole mess.
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