MrFirebird
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Ladies........ What is Love?
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Posted by PhoenixRising
LOL @Exo
I don't think you'll get a problem hearing from the ladies on the subject. I would be interested in hearing a man's definition though. I rarely hear them talk on the subject. So what is love for you Fire?
I would love to learn from all of you beautiful ladies what it is for YOU, before I say.
Ladies first, you know.
Ok..... let me try phrasing it this way:
What IF you had a man whom you could teach to love you, what are the things that you would teach him?
Would you, could you fall for such a man? What if he was a complete wreck?
Would you restore him? Perhaps he had physical flaws, would you pass?
But... if the one thing he had to his credit was life experience a fiercely loyal heart, albeit battered,
and sole objective was to be your best friend, lover and shepherd......., the man of your dreams
would that be enough?
I guess I want to learn how to melt a lady's heart. There is no lady to speak of but... I am tired of
you ladies melting my heart. It's not fair and I'd love to turn the tables around.
I wish I knew what to ask for.
But then.. I guess I've already asked with the title.
Posted by Let*It*Be
Romantic love? Family love? Friendship? Which one FB?
all three rolled up in one.
Thank you that's a start. 🙂
Posted by MrFirebirdPosted by PhoenixRising
LOL @Exo
I don't think you'll get a problem hearing from the ladies on the subject. I would be interested in hearing a man's definition though. I rarely hear them talk on the subject. So what is love for you Fire?
I would love to learn from all of you beautiful ladies what it is for YOU, before I say.
Ladies first, you know.
Ok..... let me try phrasing it this way:
What IF you had a man whom you could teach to love you, what are the things that you would teach him?
Would you, could you fall for such a man? What if he was a complete wreck?
Would you restore him? Perhaps he had physical flaws, would you pass?
But... if the one thing he had to his credit was life experience a fiercely loyal heart, albeit battered,
and sole objective was to be your best friend, lover and shepherd......., the man of your dreams
would that be enough?
I guess I want to learn how to melt a lady's heart. There is no lady to speak of but... I am tired of
you ladies melting my heart. It's not fair and I'd love to turn the tables around.
I wish I knew what to ask for.
But then.. I guess I've already asked with the title.
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Let me ponder all of this. In all honesty, it is hard subject for me to put into words that makes sense to anyone but me, especially in the state I'm in now. I will definitely be back...flu medication kicking in now.......
I keep listening to that song.. over and over... I must have heard it over 29 times now.
Um... I got misty. Please don't tell anyone.
Um... I got misty. Please don't tell anyone.
For me;
Love is synonymous with respect. It's an action and not a feeling. Those chemical feel good warm fuzzies? that's not love, that's infatuation. That is fleeting at best (though fun). That can be reproduced with drugs.
Love? not so much folks. Not so much.
Love is synonymous with respect. It's an action and not a feeling. Those chemical feel good warm fuzzies? that's not love, that's infatuation. That is fleeting at best (though fun). That can be reproduced with drugs.
Love? not so much folks. Not so much.
Posted by capgirl75
Don't point out my flaws, or make jokes at my expense.
That's funny, cause to me Love -would- be pointing out my flaws and making jokes at my expense (In a good natured way)
Posted by capgirl75Posted by CancerLeoDynamitePosted by capgirl75
Don't point out my flaws, or make jokes at my expense.
That's funny, cause to me Love -would- be pointing out my flaws and making jokes at my expense (In a good natured way)
I don't like to be made fun of for your personal enjoyment.
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I do.
Love is so subjective, is my point though. One persons worst possible scenario in love (Ie: someone you care about mocking you), is anothers perfect idea of it.(ie: my perfect relationship involves a back and forth banter of witty mockery of each other and every flaw we encounter)
Personally I would really hate it if my partner wanted to have a frank discussion about perceived flaws, but mocking me about them, in a witty manner? haha All for it.
so subjective right?
Posted by ellessque
love is elusive.
Every time I think I have it figured out, it changes again.
Love is elusive.
I know the feeling.
Love is not a question, love is an answer and when you find it, all your questions about IT will finally have an answer.
I used to laugh and roll my eyes at love songs thinking "wtf!?" and when it found me i went "ahhhh, thats what they meant".
I used to laugh and roll my eyes at love songs thinking "wtf!?" and when it found me i went "ahhhh, thats what they meant".
Posted by R24Posted by MrFirebirdLadies......What is Love?
Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no moreclick to expand
lol
I already made that joke and posted a youtube link to the song!
Oh well it was funny the second time too.
Posted by Ellybean
Love is capturing your significant other, running away with them an locking them in a closet so you can keep and control them forever and they will belong to no one, not even themselves, but you.
Do I get an A+?
Too cool.
If that's really what love is,
-- and if Virgo guy told me
he wanted someone to kidnap him and love him
(true statement),
-- and if yesterday I told Virgo guy
I would be happy to kidnap him
[if a certain event first happened]
(true statement),
-- ummm, is there love anywhere in there?
Question is entirely rhetorical.
Been so wondering what this particular
fantasy of his really means,
besides escaping his current life circumstance.
Hmmmmm.
Okay, so to answer the title "...What is Love?", I see it as an emotion that is a very unique reflection of the person evoking the feeling. That is why love looks very different in various relationships. How I would love a partner, family member, child or friend would be based on the connection we share and can not be shared by anyone else because of who we are. For example, a mother loves all of her children, but based on their unique traits she will have a very different relationship with each one. Based on this relationship her expression of love will look different for each of them as well.
Now for your specific questions....
What IF you had a man whom you could teach to love you, what are the things that you would teach him?
~ Well, I don't believe one can "teach" someone how to love, because teaching implies I am showing you how and what you should do. To me that's not the type of love I would want because it wouldn't come naturally from the person. Not real/genuine enough. I do think you can demonstrate love though. I think in demonstrating my love/affection to someone else this would evoke feelings in that person. What he then would demonstrates to me his own reflection/ideas of love based on his emotions. It may look similar to my demonstration or completely off the f*ckin wall (which would be interesting in my eyes). I wouldn't have any expectations of what it should look like.
Would you, could you fall for such a man? What if he was a complete wreck?
~ Who says I haven't fallen for a wreck? I'm no longer in the business of taking on fixer uppers however. If I can't accept him as he is, then I'm not the woman for him. His willingness to change, express love, if he hasn't in the past would be the blessing in disguised in all of his f*ckupedness (if we want to call it that). But I would need to be able to accept him as is for it to be...."real" IMO.
Would you restore him? Perhaps he had physical flaws, would you pass?
~ I'm not sure what you mean by "restore"....I'm not too hung up on looks as much as I am about his ability to stimulate me mentally, physically, emotionally. So no, I wouldn't pass if he had those other things working in his favor.
But... if the one thing he had to his credit was life experience a fiercely loyal heart, albeit battered,
and sole objective was to be your best friend, lover and shepherd......., the man of your dreams
would that be enough?
~ You had me at fiercely loyal....
Hope that was clear.
Now for your specific questions....
What IF you had a man whom you could teach to love you, what are the things that you would teach him?
~ Well, I don't believe one can "teach" someone how to love, because teaching implies I am showing you how and what you should do. To me that's not the type of love I would want because it wouldn't come naturally from the person. Not real/genuine enough. I do think you can demonstrate love though. I think in demonstrating my love/affection to someone else this would evoke feelings in that person. What he then would demonstrates to me his own reflection/ideas of love based on his emotions. It may look similar to my demonstration or completely off the f*ckin wall (which would be interesting in my eyes). I wouldn't have any expectations of what it should look like.
Would you, could you fall for such a man? What if he was a complete wreck?
~ Who says I haven't fallen for a wreck? I'm no longer in the business of taking on fixer uppers however. If I can't accept him as he is, then I'm not the woman for him. His willingness to change, express love, if he hasn't in the past would be the blessing in disguised in all of his f*ckupedness (if we want to call it that). But I would need to be able to accept him as is for it to be...."real" IMO.
Would you restore him? Perhaps he had physical flaws, would you pass?
~ I'm not sure what you mean by "restore"....I'm not too hung up on looks as much as I am about his ability to stimulate me mentally, physically, emotionally. So no, I wouldn't pass if he had those other things working in his favor.
But... if the one thing he had to his credit was life experience a fiercely loyal heart, albeit battered,
and sole objective was to be your best friend, lover and shepherd......., the man of your dreams
would that be enough?
~ You had me at fiercely loyal....
Hope that was clear.
Posted by capgirl75
What IF you had a man whom you could teach to love you, what are the things that you would teach him? Just treat me like you would want to be treated. Be patient with me; understand that I will do things in my own time, when I feel comfortable. Be kind. Call me. Listen to me. Don't point out my flaws, or make jokes at my expense. Be honest with me. Hold my hand. Tell me that I am beautiful, special, a good person.
I truly thought this was the sweetest answer....
This...
Posted by Ellybean
Love is capturing your significant other, running away with them an locking them in a closet so you can keep and control them forever and they will belong to no one, not even themselves, but you.
babe? is that you sweetie—
😛
Love
I'm holding out for that one 🙂 I've been lustful, infatuated and obsessed with former partners-but I knew it wasn't love
To me..Love would be knowing in that secret part of myself that my life would be empty without that person. That I couldn't handle if they suddenly disappeared. Typically I don't feel that way-if someone poofed-I'd be confused for a day or two, perhaps mad but I wouldn't be gutted.
If I could teach someone how to love me I'd ask that they be stronger than I am-to not let me push them around. To take initative to steer the relationship and not be afraid of me
If he was a wreck?
Everyone has issues-you have to find the ppl with issues compatible with yours
Would I try to change him?
Never.
To me...Love would be finding that someone who has the missing part of me, to make this cold hearted, independent b*tch not so quite afraid. To be able to bare my throat to him and know he could kill me..but won't
Fin
I'm holding out for that one 🙂 I've been lustful, infatuated and obsessed with former partners-but I knew it wasn't love
To me..Love would be knowing in that secret part of myself that my life would be empty without that person. That I couldn't handle if they suddenly disappeared. Typically I don't feel that way-if someone poofed-I'd be confused for a day or two, perhaps mad but I wouldn't be gutted.
If I could teach someone how to love me I'd ask that they be stronger than I am-to not let me push them around. To take initative to steer the relationship and not be afraid of me
If he was a wreck?
Everyone has issues-you have to find the ppl with issues compatible with yours
Would I try to change him?
Never.
To me...Love would be finding that someone who has the missing part of me, to make this cold hearted, independent b*tch not so quite afraid. To be able to bare my throat to him and know he could kill me..but won't
Fin
Again.... ECHO .....
I'm sort of a bitter young man ..well not so young anymore I guess. I would say the only reason for the ehh past 3 or 4 years I totally haven't been of the opinion that love does not exist is cause I tend to think I love.... I've fooled myself into thinking the past few years that it was motivated out of some selfish motive of mine because I've wanted to believe that everyone else is selfishly motivated.
However, I have to second xxnightbynight... In that w/e happens with the scorpio girl at school... I have her to thank for reigniting feelings I haven't felt for a long time. I've got to except that for which I've written off.
You wanna know what love is... Your already do my friend you just don't wanna except the fact that it is
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
Love never fails.
However, I have to second xxnightbynight... In that w/e happens with the scorpio girl at school... I have her to thank for reigniting feelings I haven't felt for a long time. I've got to except that for which I've written off.
You wanna know what love is... Your already do my friend you just don't wanna except the fact that it is
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
Love never fails.
Posted by NotYourAverageAquarius
I'm sort of a bitter young man ..well not so young anymore I guess. I would say the only reason for the ehh past 3 or 4 years I totally haven't been of the opinion that love does not exist is cause I tend to think I love.... I've fooled myself into thinking the past few years that it was motivated out of some selfish motive of mine because I've wanted to believe that everyone else is selfishly motivated.
However, I have to second xxnightbynight... In that w/e happens with the scorpio girl at school... I have her to thank for reigniting feelings I haven't felt for a long time. I've got to except that for which I've written off.
You wanna know what love is... Your already do my friend you just don't wanna except the fact that it is
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
Love never fails.
1st Corinthians 13:1-13
But how did you know that I knew this?
1st Corinthians 13:1-13
But how did you know that I knew this?
I said you know it because we all inherently know it... where just afraid to show it. I know it sounds cliche' but just be love and stop looking for love. At the end of the day you should be able to logically find comfort in the fact that it exists if you are in fact acting on it. If you don't think so then ask yourself do you really think you don't love say for instance your mom, or your dad, or your brother, etc. etc.
Whenever I feel lonely or unloved... I try to hang out with my family. I used to just be alone and be miserably.. oh woe is me or w/e. LOL sometimes I still do but I find, the harder I look for love the more fleeting and harder it is to hold onto. At least that's the way I see it. If that is to Aquarian for you peeps my bad :^)
I suppose in the original question you did state that ladies melt your heart.... It's that you don't melt theirs right? Well the one time I was in a really fantastic relationship and almost got married... she loved who I was on the inside... had she not known me previously... It could have taken a lot longer for it to progress to what it was. I think in typical cases where you meet someone for the first time but you begin to have strong feelings for them... you should probably be patient or learn to let go. Most people recognize that more than you would think even if it is just a subconscious recognition. You can't make someone love you... but you can choose to love them... and in turn they can fall in love with who you are as a person. Love fearlessly my friend! Don't give up I'm not! Gosh I feel like such a hypo (short for hypocrite)... lol I've been whining about this scorpio girl being all distant... I should take my own advice huh man ^.^
You know I think that is why loyalty is the key! Be true to being love and showing love to that significant other even if they might have lost there endorphin chemical brain reaction... and I bet if not sooner than later... they'll just fall in love all over again. It doesn't have to end at the beginning... that feeling can last forever... I dated someone for 5 years so I know what it's like when that chemical feeling starts to fade... but it still worked and I begin to feel that way again because she really did LOVE me. I just fucked it up lol... and no it was not because I was unfaithful! I suppose to put all blame on me is unfair but If I had just done what I know is right and not wanting to please her we probably would be together today... YOU know remaining emotionally detached at times can have it's benefits I just chose to please her for the moment rather than the long run...
Posted by MrFirebird
I would love to learn from all of you beautiful ladies what it is for YOU, before I say.
Ladies first, you know.
Ok..... let me try phrasing it this way:
What IF you had a man whom you could teach to love you, what are the things that you would teach him?
Would you, could you fall for such a man? What if he was a complete wreck?
Would you restore him? Perhaps he had physical flaws, would you pass?
But... if the one thing he had to his credit was life experience a fiercely loyal heart, albeit battered,
and sole objective was to be your best friend, lover and shepherd......., the man of your dreams
would that be enough?
I guess I want to learn how to melt a lady's heart. There is no lady to speak of but... I am tired of
you ladies melting my heart. It's not fair and I'd love to turn the tables around.
I wish I knew what to ask for.
But then.. I guess I've already asked with the title.
This sounds good.
Although I don't want to "fix" him, I wouldn't mind if I felt it's what he wanted and needed. When you say 'restore', I'm thinking along the lines of obtaining basic needs and being financially secure. If you mean psychologically, I'm not sure I'm up to that. It would take a lot of sweat and tears and I might not come away unscathed 😢
As for physical flaws, do you mean a disability? like not being able to walk? If he were disabled when we meet, I'd just become a good and loyal friend and that's it, but if he were disabled later in our relationship, Id stick with him because he would have left me a lot of good memories to live with prior to the disability, and it would be enough for me.
his credit sounds amazing, but i would add socially aware, fair and honest in his opinions about social issues. I want someone that thinks and feels a part of society rather than uncaring and reclusive, i find them to be more inspiring and inventive as well as better conversationalists.
So is the man of our dreams enough? definitely! but lets not forget that when we have kids together, the man of our dreams come second to the father of their dreams =P
Anyway, I wish you luck in your melting of hearts endeavor. You have good intentions, I'm sure you'll find the right woman soon!
Posted by WaterCup
Love is not a question, love is an answer and when you find it, all your questions about IT will finally have an answer.
I used to laugh and roll my eyes at love songs thinking "wtf!?" and when it found me i went "ahhhh, thats what they meant".
THIS!
Love is not a feeling, it is a verb. Love is an action that either precedes emotions or is prompted by them. If being around a person makes us feel happy, safe, needed, etc., we will want to do things for them or with them. When we don't recognize or understand the distinction between feelings and actions, we become more vulnerable to disappointment when we perceive that a relationship isn't working or that we've "fallen out of love". This is why lasting relationships must entail committment and the realization that feelings can be fickle.
Posted by xxnightbynight
bible verses... ahhhh!!!
LOOOOL You know it is a very good discription.... tell one better ^.^?
MrFireBird you loves you some Jason Mraz eh....
I don't blame you his music is very deep and honest most of the time...
I remember when the first album of his came out... my favorite song was "you and I both" and they never played it on the radio— I was like what is up with these people... that was easily on of the best if not the best song on the first album and it's not even playing on the radio... never got popular till like second album for some dumb reason. They even changed the song up a bit for which I didn't like at first anyhow... sorry this is off topic
I don't blame you his music is very deep and honest most of the time...
I remember when the first album of his came out... my favorite song was "you and I both" and they never played it on the radio— I was like what is up with these people... that was easily on of the best if not the best song on the first album and it's not even playing on the radio... never got popular till like second album for some dumb reason. They even changed the song up a bit for which I didn't like at first anyhow... sorry this is off topic
Posted by NotYourAverageAquarius
MrFireBird you loves you some Jason Mraz eh....
I don't blame you his music is very deep and honest most of the time...
I remember when the first album of his came out... my favorite song was "you and I both" and they never played it on the radio— I was like what is up with these people... that was easily on of the best if not the best song on the first album and it's not even playing on the radio... never got popular till like second album for some dumb reason. They even changed the song up a bit for which I didn't like at first anyhow... sorry this is off topic
It's not about Jason Mraz.
Posted by MrFirebirdPosted by MrFirebirdPosted by mysweetangel
This...
...
My Sweet Angel,
Trigger tears fall like bullets.
People please listen to the song.click to expand
Kiki, you spoke to my soul in the deepest way.
Sorry for the divergence MrFireBird
Yes this song is definitely love written in words of a song... true love true loyalty!
Yes this song is definitely love written in words of a song... true love true loyalty!
Posted by DazedScorp
Imagine yourself as that slab of butter... melting over those steaming, fluffy pancakes.
How do you feel?
Could you add a few more clues?
I am a slab of butter.
She is the steaming hot fluffy pancakes.
I must not be so cold. (But butter is usually cold or room temp.)
But hot steaming fluffy pancakes can melt the cold butter.
As the butter melts, it is absorbed into the pancakes.
The maple syrup is the wonderful sweetness we share with each other.
The Whole is Divine.
The pancakes are a morning breakfast dish.
Mornings represent a "New Beginning".
The fresh coffee suggests: "Wake up and smell the coffee."
Together, she and I are something to look forward to.
She And I... WE, Together have something beautiful to look forward to.
The Whole is Divine.
Am I on the right path? I hope so, because that's only way I know
to interpret the music, her music, and now... your breakfast photo.
She is the steaming hot fluffy pancakes.
I must not be so cold. (But butter is usually cold or room temp.)
But hot steaming fluffy pancakes can melt the cold butter.
As the butter melts, it is absorbed into the pancakes.
The maple syrup is the wonderful sweetness we share with each other.
The Whole is Divine.
The pancakes are a morning breakfast dish.
Mornings represent a "New Beginning".
The fresh coffee suggests: "Wake up and smell the coffee."
Together, she and I are something to look forward to.
She And I... WE, Together have something beautiful to look forward to.
The Whole is Divine.
Am I on the right path? I hope so, because that's only way I know
to interpret the music, her music, and now... your breakfast photo.
😉
I feel you
LOL!
No laughing at....along with. I just thought the musical declaration was cute. No offense intended.
Also, I don't recognize many of the songs you post and I am pretty knowledgeable about different songs, artist from various genres. "Oh Sherri" I know!
Posted by xdimplez
what the hell happened to kiki. thats what i want to know...
oh and your symbolism with the pancakes and butter....thats some deep shnit.
Yeah... 😢
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I don't think you'll get a problem hearing from the ladies on the subject. I would be interested in hearing a man's definition though. I rarely hear them talk on the subject. So what is love for you Fire?