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Hi guys, havent been here in a long time. Ok, long story short- Ive separated from Mr Aries, its been months and now I have an (I dont know what) with a Scorpio (5 November to be exact), not exactly (head over heels inlove) but u get me. Its been weeks of (dating) and he is CRAZY! 1st thing, he called me and I didnt answer coz Ive left my phone at home so I sent him a message of acknowledgment 5hrs later and the SOB replied to that 5hrs to the dot later- getting even! Saterday we went to his friends party and 2 blocks away from the venue he gave me a speech about keeping my eyes on him and nobody else, that pissed me off! Once we got to the place I asked him to show me the bathroom and he had to ask the owner of the house to take me there as the house was huge with many doors-no problem.. Mid step he turned to the guy and snarled telling him not to get any funny ideas about me, wtf!? Hours later I got a call from my husband so i went away to a more quiet place so i could talk in private. He was watching me! When I returned he turned his attention to the sexy girls sitting next to us and started gyrating in their faces like Elvis the flexible Pelvis, Lol and I couldnt care less. When he noticed that I wasnt bitting the bait, he got mad at ME, real MAD- we ended up leaving. He ignored me the whole of sunday and I also didnt bother, but he called and apologized today. Im almost done with him, but he promised to behave so we will see.. I dont know how this will work, I could do a composite chart but he refuses to tell me his year of birth, maybe he is as old as Dracula bcoz I dont get the secrecy. This is my 1st scorp btw. Astrology is so true when it comes to this man, he must be a lizard. Should I believe that he could curb the craziness?
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funnily enough, my aries ex was like this scorp...you must've caught a glimpse of aries jealousy which can be quite unhinged at times? i got so paranoid about being accused of looking at someone, i used to walk around looking at the ground, lol.

i was young and stupid. it didn't get better. he didn't change. i stayed and made it all worse for myself....so get out now.
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Elle..thats exactly why i left the aries, jealosy- this new guy just started his weirdness on saterday. Its still new so ill give him this last chance to show me that he meant what he said, i cant deal with another controlling. Say hi to aquaj, ill get in touch with her if and when i decide to join facebook, doubt it thou. Ive been reading her posts on lindaland, shes still great
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Elle..i understand what u mean by fixed, but if he pulls another stunt like that hell join my long list of friends- i dont do bipolar, im the only one allowed to be bipolar! Lol. He is also VERY sensitive, told me he didnt like how i answered the phone, i sounded bored, wth? I told him i would do splits and cheer next time he calls, he got angry again, lol, but we are having dinner at his place in an hour, i hope he doesnt spoil the mood by being schizo, lol. Thanks a lot Elle, see u guys later. Little secret..scorps do really rule sex! Hahaha
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I've read through this a few times. I wont say what my initial thought was.

You aren't into him, and he senses that. He, however, is into you, because you keep seeing him and such. He's becoming possessive for BOTH reasons.

I never understand how and why that if someone isn't into someone, why they drag it on. Quit dating, period. You should be feeling butterflies if youve been dating for weeks. Not dread. If youre already sick of him, you know you arent going to let this keep going anyway. So why not end it?

So, my question to you, is why? Not your answer that you believe giving people a chanc. In your head youve given him quite a few chances, cuz every time he FUBARS, you still either see him or respond. Those ARE giving him A chance. In fact, after chance after chance.

Something isn't adding up, and imho you know what it is, and why. Is it the attention you are liking?
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Posted by WaterCup
Elle..i understand what u mean by fixed, but if he pulls another stunt like that hell join my long list of friends- i dont do bipolar, im the only one allowed to be bipolar! Lol. He is also VERY sensitive, told me he didnt like how i answered the phone, i sounded bored, wth? I told him i would do splits and cheer next time he calls, he got angry again, lol, but we are having dinner at his place in an hour, i hope he doesnt spoil the mood by being schizo, lol. Thanks a lot Elle, see u guys later. Little secret..scorps do really rule sex! Hahaha



Right here ^^^ Youve done nothing but slam him, you have yet to say anything nice about him on this thread, you mock him, and all you have positive to say about this is except he is good in bed? Youre fucking with him. OR, you have ulterior motives either with him, or posting this thread in the appearance that you are too good for him, and he's your puppet that keeps you entertained. Or, you are into him but you want to keep it like youre not. And that in itself is a whole other issue if indeed that is the case. Yup, even moreso now, things arent adding up. Either that, or you are lacking in sex and he's keeping your tank full, for now. Rebound? Jealousy tatic to ex lover? What is it 🙂

*shakes head*
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OD.. I like the guy, not inlove yet, it takes a lot to take me there. I dont recall mocking him, thats just how i talk. The sex thing was a joke, i havent slept with the guy yet, just a lot of touching-he talks about sex a lot thou. I never said he was a bad person, i just didnt mention that he does have good qualities. Im with him bcoz i enjoy his compay, he loves horror movies like i do, never met another horror fan b4, we click that way.
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And it has nothing to do with attention, making an ex jealous or ulterior motives-ive been hiding myself ever since the split from my ex so its nice to have company again. Im still observing him inorder to decide to move things to another level, thats why i asked the question in my op. Talking about kink, that made me drool, maybe i should fuck him tonight and prove my aquaness-im dying to have a human sex toy!
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So you DO like him 🙂 Love that comes too quick generally ends just as quick. Of course I'm a hopeless romantic, so I do believe in 'love at first sight' haha

I still stand by he may be thinking you are not into him. On the swing side of that, it is creating a mystery which is a must with Scorp guys ... predictable is boring, although predictability also brings them stability which is what they need and desire in a relationship to feel secure in their love wtih someone, or I guess knowing that they are loved back genuinely. You have him intrigued 😉

Hmmm, so I took what you were saying differently then how you meant it. So you may do that with him too, which is where he gets upset with you teasing him. He thinks youre serious. You are just being you, and meaning no harm no foul. Or he doesnt like being picked on/teased ... the one Scorp I dated, he loved picking on me, sometimes it was to the point of me wanting to throw in the towel because it was non stop sometimes. Wow, but if I pick on him (even to this day)? Whole different story, and out would come A) ice or B) stinger.

Him talking about sex is two things. One, to see how you react to both the talk and what he likes/wants/will do. And it makes him horny, which is common for them and a must 🙂 If youre not getting sex, there is something going on with him mentally/emotionally. And second, he wants to see where you are in terms of quick sex off the bat, etc. Not that he would judge you over it, but it will open up a whole can of worrms if you are quick to rock it with him...he'll wonder how often youve done it, what else youve done, and with whom, and where, and for how long, and was it good, and so begins the mental torture they can put themselves through with their never ending thinking and also can be if not most definitely, brooding.

And too if you are married, that is putting something into all of this too. Maybe he is now competing against your husband. If you are, chances are that is the case, and his jealousy overload with you. They don't like to lose, and in fact rarely do. And if they do? And it was not a good outcome? So begins the process of a sting of some kind.
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Posted by ellessque
it is VERY easy for a scorp to get the "they are not into me" vibe from an aqua because it seems whatever you guys are feeling, you do the exact opposite.



Yup ^^^^ Aquas are very loving, but they have a way of detachment and at times, seemingly coldness, when really they are just observing, caught up in thoughts, unsure, etc.

Scorp men need security. Security does not mean the woman controls him, he needs to feel safe .. FEEL safe. Secure in his relations with his partner. It has to come from the pinky toe of his left foot all the way to the part in his hair. You can tell him he's safe with you til you are blue in the fact, but if he doesnt sense it or feel it, it will be you feeling like you are jumping through hoops to proove your love.

**you being anyone in general having a rel with them, not "just you WC
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it is VERY easy for a scorp to get the "they are not into me" vibe from an aqua because it seems whatever you guys are feeling, you do the exact opposite.



Yup ^^^^ Aquas are very loving, but they have a way of detachment and at times, seemingly coldness, when really they are just observing, caught up in thoughts, unsure, etc.

Scorp men need security. Security does not mean the woman controls him, he needs to feel safe .. FEEL safe. Secure in his relations with his partner. It has to come from the pinky toe of his left foot all the way to the part in his hair. You can tell him he's safe with you til you are blue in the fact, but if he doesnt sense it or feel it, it will be you feeling like you are jumping through hoops to proove your love.

**you being anyone in general having a rel with them, not "just you WC




i don't get 90% of you people. OD really....you have such brilliant insight into WC situation, and i remember your thread the other day - and when i see the advice you give i just wonder.
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If I'm reading your intended thought with that, IKR?! LOL

My life with Scorps guys tend to be getting and understanding them in great and at times complex ways. More than one has said I get them more than most people do, or stick around long enough. Comes to relationships? Horrible. I also need security, and even though there are so many things that make me feel the most secure and desired by them, they also make me feel very insecure, and not always trusting either my feelings or theirs. So I end up blowing it by cutting off my own nose to spite my face on purpose in order to protect myself from being hurt, or being made a fool of.

Love me Scorp men though 🙂 Insight into them when dating is almost a curse because my mind never stops, and I'm always suspicious (my decan is Scorpio, and where my birthdate falls in July, suspicion also is prevalant with me)
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OD..Yeah i do like him in, an air sign kind of way ofcoz. He is pushing for a relationship but im cautious since our signs arent compatible and also bcoz its like whatever i do/say bothers him somehow, i dont want to walk on eggshells. We have a lot of physical attraction, im a scorpio moon btw with 3 other scorp planets so i understand where that comes from, but chemistry alone isnt enough for me, im still an aqua i need real friendship. We will see how this goes and thanx for the input girls. Ill update
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Posted by Nemesis
...cut off. OD seriously, don't give advice to anybody about scorp men. period.



Excuse me? Dont base my advice to others in what I do in my own relationships. If you read my whole thread, I sabotaged it myself. I could care less which one of you faceless bloggers believe me or not. It's the second time I've done it with both Scorps I dated.

Because why? You are the almighty knowing because you are a scorpio? First, females are way diff than the Scorp men ... hands down, the females tend to have a more masculine personality where the men are more emotional. Second, try dating yourselves.

Unless and until you reach the phoenix and soul search? Most think they're not to blame. And if they do realize it? Won't admit it. It goes against the need to be perfect.

Scorpios arent the only ones who are capable of stinging themselves. You obviously no nothing about Cancers.
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OD..Yeah i do like him in, an air sign kind of way ofcoz. He is pushing for a relationship but im cautious since our signs arent compatible and also bcoz its like whatever i do/say bothers him somehow, i dont want to walk on eggshells. We have a lot of physical attraction, im a scorpio moon btw with 3 other scorp planets so i understand where that comes from, but chemistry alone isnt enough for me, im still an aqua i need real friendship. We will see how this goes and thanx for the input girls. Ill update



Can I askk, without putting too much of his personal life out there if you dont feel comfortable, but what is his relationship history? Also, his childhood? Has he talked much or opened up a lot about either?
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OD..we havent gone that deep yet, discussed personal things. But we both have sons the same age thats about the only personal thing i know about him. He dances around issues a lot.



Hmmmm, that has me curious now. Not that he hasn't shared that information(he will in due time) but you said something that the more you share, it is so similar to the first Scorpio I had dated three years ago (we still go in and out of each other's lives, in a love/hate way). The walking on eggshells, and everything you always say is wrong. He is angry with something, that doesnt have to do with you necessarily, he is struggling with something personal Im betting. Or he may be struggling with himself. Topped with his jealousy, and possessivness? Same on this end too! He had a marriage fall apart, and a few relationships afterwards where he felt used by those women, and had ulterior motives with him.

I hate the feeling of walking on eggshells! It is so stressful, and then not too long you are concentrating on what you are saying, how, when, etc. Then if he goes wackadoodle or silent, you are left wondering if it's something you said. So when you tease, etc. out of 'frustration with him' or in fun (no foul meant) he's too damn serious and cynical to laugh. So he is showing signs of not feeling secure within himself, the more I'm wondering.

So, not saying to do it, but what are your thoughts in softening your teasing up a bit, and/or your approach with him? Just to see what he does or says (dont be surprised if he gets suspicious then too!! lol) Is that something you can do comfortably, or will it take a lot in terms of feeling like you are changing your core, or personality, etc.?
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...cut off. OD seriously, don't give advice to anybody about scorp men. period.



Excuse me? Dont base my advice to others in what I do in my own relationships. If you read my whole thread, I sabotaged it myself. I could care less which one of you faceless bloggers believe me or not. It's the second time I've done it with both Scorps I dated.

Because why? You are the almighty knowing because you are a scorpio? First, females are way diff than the Scorp men ... hands down, the females tend to have a more masculine personality where the men are more emotional. Second, try dating yourselves.

Unless and until you reach the phoenix and soul search? Most think they're not to blame. And if they do realize it? Won't admit it. It goes against the need to be perfect.

Scorpios arent the only ones who are capable of stinging themselves. You obviously no nothing about Cancers.




i'm not a scorpio per se. but have heavy placements, the major ones being moon and rising. i might have expressed myself too blunt; but you gave WC some solid advice you should have given yourself. i'm trying to understand what motivates you to give that advice, but turn a blind eye on your own situation.

when does the eureka moment set in?

of course you sabotaged yourself, we all do it for various reasons, and all for the wrong reasons. instead of being straightforward and saying what we mean and meaning what we say - we play mind games and manipulate and in the end: everybody loses.

i dare say; i know quite a bit of cancer females 😉
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Awwww, that's what I thought you meant at first in your first response but then I read your cut off, and I was like 'wth did that come from, Nem and I havent ever had bad thoughts or words' I feel like a heel. I'm sorry, I went on the defense. I have been doing that a lot lately, just others not understanding me and saying or doing things, where I feel like I have to stand up for myself a lot lately. I am sorry.

Because I dont know how to apply it to myself. I can only understand them it seems. Like we are meant to be close, but not in rels. Which in and amongst itself sucks, they feel like my counterpart.
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Posted by scorchedearth
sorry nem. i guess some people will just accuse anyone who posts on a board of being that particular sign.

i have nothing really to add to this conversation thus far, though. back to lurking i go!



No, Ive always thought Nem was a Scorpio. Is that good reason? It was an honest mistake, and not because she posted on here ... if in fact, you are referring to me bull?
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OD..changing myself or controlling my normal behaviour to suit others is not something im comfortable with. I have a take me or leave me attitude. But im also selfish in that i expect others to adjust to me, not fair i know. Time will tell on this one and thanx again for the insight



And that's good, you shouldnt change yourself for anyone, unless you want to. Well, you recognize your expectations of others, and that is also a good thing too, if it gives you something to work on in terms of you two over time 🙂 No prob. enjoy him, he can be fun believe it or not, bring that side out of him, he'll amaze you with all his different depths 😉 And leave the eggshells at home, be aware of what triggers him but still be yourself!! It'll never work if you guys cant let your hair down and be yourselves, and grow from like to love. 🙂
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it would be like someone saying elle was a leo or something.



😛 I can pretend to be a leo for a day.

we should screw with the newbies and every Tuesday we choose a different sign to be 😄



like play astro dress up or something? you'd have to post on other boards and stuff too. no sticking just on the scorp and misc boards!

i'd have to find a new icon... flaming bull.. kind of obvious what i am...
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You could go as a crab patty cancer.... your profile pic being a pot of boiling water!! LMAO
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Posted by Nemesis
@OD: i buggered up the quotation again....

please, no apologies. i was a bit provocative too. APPLY your methods 🙂 a lot of us are more self-sufficient than we think. don't know if that is applicable for aquas though, they fall through most equations.

once i read:
A wise old owl lived in an oak
The more he saw the less he spoke
The less he spoke the more he heard.
Why can't we all be like that wise old bird?



Hmmmm, you given me a lot to think about! I like that quote, reminds me of my uncle, and things I should do myself 😉

Any tips on how I can apply those ideas, and advice? 😛