Scorpio males saw me cry- What was he thinking?

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I've fairly good relations with a couple of male coworkers. But today, in an effort to compare and contrast differing viewpoints with a scorpio male, we ended up getting into an argument. And maybe he was expressing his scorpio dark side, but he brought up a touchy subject concerning my PTSD and delved around my negative emotions until I broke down and cried.

Asshole.


Anyway, after that he told me not to think about it and let it go. But both he and my other Scorpio coworker were staring at me with a small smile as I broke down. Obviously they didn't realize the extent of my experience, I think.

What were they thinking??
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I've fairly good relations with a couple of male coworkers. But today, in an effort to compare and contrast differing viewpoints with a scorpio male, we ended up getting into an argument. And maybe he was expressing his scorpio dark side, but he brought up a touchy subject concerning my PTSD and delved around my negative emotions until I broke down and cried.

Asshole.


Anyway, after that he told me not to think about it and let it go. But both he and my other Scorpio coworker were staring at me with a small smile as I broke down. Obviously they didn't realize the extent of my experience, I think.

What were they thinking??



Do not blame the Scorpio sign. Regardless of their sign, most people are like the friends you mentioned-here. Next time, be very picky on who you confide in. Human are the highest most efficient predators on earth. Just remember this. Be very picky next time.
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Wow, that's terrible.


I work with two Scorpios and happen to be one.


I could only imagine how both would get it I WERE to break down crying.

One would look at me awkwardly and maybe get some satisfaction (and feel really uncomfortable most likely).

The other would be there for me and wrap me in a big hug.

Big contrast.

Not all are created equal!

Usually if I see someone crying...no matter how ridiculous, I'm there to hopefully help them feel a little better.
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What were they thinking??



They were thinking the same - that you are a weak type of personality.

Crying in front of Scorpio males - nah. They don't feel pity on you. They were listening their intuition

what possible disturbance you're going to do. Scorpio are very vigilant. We know our enemy. We feel it.

We stand the ground fighting until we gain the victory. and I adore these male scorpio even some of them

are @ssholes - there is something about Scorpio ( vulnerable side ) - and that's sweetest thing about them.
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They were thinking the same - that you are a weak type of personality.

Crying in front of Scorpio males - nah. They don't feel pity on you. They were listening their intuition

what possible disturbance you're going to do. Scorpio are very vigilant. We know our enemy. We feel it.

We stand the ground fighting until we gain the victory. and I adore these male scorpio even some of them

are @ssholes - there is something about Scorpio ( vulnerable side ) - and that's sweetest thing about them.



There is a deadly fallacy to believing that tears are a weakness. Just because you do not cry does not mean you are a strong person. Why does everyone believe this to be the case? First, because society tells them that strong people do not cry. Second, because society wants everything smooth, even when the fact is, NO ONE is always calm! Third, because we live in a society that believes emotions are a weakness often associated with women and children. So does that mean all women and children are weak? Or that crying is always correlated directly to emotional strength? If, for example, your friend cries because her grandparents starved to death while yours lived in splendor all their lives and you never shed a tear, is she weak?

Further, your statement contrasts so much with the sign of scorpio, a sign responding to and receiving the world through emotions made powerful due to their all-or-nothing personality and intensity, but also very feminine. The strength of Scorpio is not that it never feels, never loves, never wavers, but that deep inside a steady exterior lies a great pool of feelings, with an inexplicable depth and complexity that fuels their desires and drive. It is not weak to cry; it is not weak to feel. Likewise, it is not weak to be kind, and it is not always weak to be vulnerable.

I am not weak. Don't call me that. I would truly like to see someone like you walk a day in my shoes, and then call me weak for going through what I have had to. The truth is, you wouldn't be able to. The truth is, you don't know me. You don't know what I've been through or am still going through. You don't know how I've felt or what I carry. If you cannot measure the weight of my burdens, you sure as hell cannot measure my strength.

"We stand our ground, fighting until we gain victory," but the question lies in how. That is the difference between the snake and the eagle. Victory doesn't mean cruelty.
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Posted by esortelracs
There is a deadly fallacy to believing that tears are a weakness. Just because you do not cry does not mean you are a strong person. Why does everyone believe this to be the case? First, because society tells them that strong people do not cry. Second, because society wants everything smooth, even when the fact is, NO ONE is always calm! Third, because we live in a society that believes emotions are a weakness often associated with women and children. So does that mean all women and children are weak? Or that crying is always correlated directly to emotional strength? If, for example, your friend cries because her grandparents starved to death while yours lived in splendor all their lives and you never shed a tear, is she weak?

Further, your statement contrasts so much with the sign of scorpio, a sign responding to and receiving the world through emotions made powerful due to their all-or-nothing personality and intensity, but also very feminine. The strength of Scorpio is not that it never feels, never loves, never wavers, but that deep inside a steady exterior lies a great pool of feelings, with an inexplicable depth and complexity that fuels their desires and drive. It is not weak to cry; it is not weak to feel. Likewise, it is not weak to be kind, and it is not always weak to be vulnerable.

I am not weak. Don't call me that. I would truly like to see someone like you walk a day in my shoes, and then call me weak for going through what I have had to. The truth is, you wouldn't be able to. The truth is, you don't know me. You don't know what I've been through or am still going through. You don't know how I've felt or what I carry. If you cannot measure the weight of my burdens, you sure as hell cannot measure my strength.

"We stand our ground, fighting until we gain victory," but the question lies in how. That is the difference between the snake and the eagle. Victory doesn't mean cruelty.



^^ YES. I agree 100%
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What were they thinking??



They were thinking the same - that you are a weak type of personality.

Crying in front of Scorpio males - nah. They don't feel pity on you. They were listening their intuition

what possible disturbance you're going to do. Scorpio are very vigilant. We know our enemy. We feel it.

We stand the ground fighting until we gain the victory. and I adore these male scorpio even some of them

are @ssholes - there is something about Scorpio ( vulnerable side ) - and that's sweetest thing about them.
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Once upon a time there was someone in the world who experienced undeserved treatment at the hands of an abuser. They finally broke down and tears were the only way to express how they felt without completely going crazy.

Once upon a time, a person was betrayed by an individual whom they showed devoted loyalty to. Tears ensued.


And I could go on.

If weakness is tears, than why do we have them? Have you ever looked into the studies that state that crying is actually healthier for you than bottling up your emotions? There are countless articles. Crying relives so many emotions, it's wonderful when you need it.

"We stand the ground fighting until we gain the victory"

You sound SO DEVELOPED.



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Me too, I agree that it isn't weak to be emotional, speaking generally. That man is weak if he resorts to humiliating someone as a way to "win" an argument. PTSD is a very serious thing and if he didn't realize the extent of yours he should have when you cried and there shouldn't have been smiles in response.

The only out I wonder about here is if the smiles you saw weren't smiles, but expressions of discomfort, not gloating glee. I know some people who get a smile-like expression when uncomfortable, notably when strong emotions are expressed, because they don't handle emotion well. But the people I've known who were like that weren't cruel, just unable to handle things maturely.

What was the argument about?
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I am not weak. Don't call me that. I would truly like to see someone like you walk a day in my shoes, and then call me weak for going through what I have had to. The truth is, you wouldn't be able to. The truth is, you don't know me. You don't know what I've been through or am still going through. You don't know how I've felt or what I carry. If you cannot measure the weight of my burdens, you sure as hell cannot measure my strength.

"We stand our ground, fighting until we gain victory," but the question lies in how. That is the difference between the snake and the eagle. Victory doesn't mean cruelty.
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I don't call you Weak. You ask what they were thinking. am I right?

Now, back to that *cruelty* - they didn't beat you. There was an argument.

Scorpio smells how your weakness didn't prove your Strength - Scorpio hides weakness.

Emotional people are not a true warrior. They get carried away of those sentiments and cry.

Emotion will decide. It won't get you that far--- it serves pity. self pity.


I cried closed door - but when the attacker comes off closer.. I stayed grounded and check if emotionally

stable then fight. Armoured your bullets with wisdom. Let the attacker knows it won't get you down when they

draw the line...

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I've fairly good relations with a couple of male coworkers. But today, in an effort to compare and contrast differing viewpoints with a scorpio male, we ended up getting into an argument. And maybe he was expressing his scorpio dark side, but he brought up a touchy subject concerning my PTSD and delved around my negative emotions until I broke down and cried.

Asshole.


Anyway, after that he told me not to think about it and let it go. But both he and my other Scorpio coworker were staring at me with a small smile as I broke down. Obviously they didn't realize the extent of my experience, I think.

What were they thinking??



Crying in a professional environment? I beg your pardon, but what were YOU thinking? If you really have to do that, go to the bathroom or maybe question your form of argument. Tears do not make men soft and give in.

I agree with another user who mentioned, that you should watch out what kind of personal information you share with coworkers. Coworkers are not friends. Draw the line.

Need a kleenex?



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I don't think it was the tears per se, it was more of peeking behind the mask, of looking at an uncontrolled emotion, I think they would have had the same grin if you started screaming your lungs off or be completely turned on... is looking at something you can't hide. We scorps are proud of keeping our cards close, of not revealing too much, the hole "mystery" we are so famous of... So when we find a clue, we grin because we found out something that we weren't supposed to know.
Don't let it get it under your skin, like you said tears are NOT a sign of weakness so don't give a f*ck what anybody thinks. Think on yourself and all the things that makes YOU happy.
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LadyCalamity and esortelracs are beyond stupid.


When people answered the question: What were they thinking ... they were commenting about what those where thinking. they weren't giving you their personal opinion on what they believe.

But, those two dipshits couldn't grasp that, and so defied the answers.

How stupid can people possible be?

If you're going to break down like a little and cry over your personal bullshit. If you don't have more control over yourself than that ... then you deserve what you get.

You're the one who is talking about your personal shit. You talk to those them about, and you made this thread about it. If you can't handle yourself, then don't come crying here ....

... because I'm not going to feel sorry for your weak ass. And I will tell you about it.


you're weak. And not because you cry, but, because you have so little control over yourself that you expect other people to coddle your insecurities. Just like this thread. The only reason it's in place is because you were expecting other people to feel sorry for you ... and that's weakness.
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LadyCalamity and esortelracs are beyond stupid.


When people answered the question: What were they thinking ... they were commenting about what those where thinking. they weren't giving you their personal opinion on what they believe.

But, those two dipshits couldn't grasp that, and so defied the answers.

How stupid can people possible be?

If you're going to break down like a little and cry over your personal bullshit. If you don't have more control over yourself than that ... then you deserve what you get.

You're the one who is talking about your personal shit. You talk to those them about, and you made this thread about it. If you can't handle yourself, then don't come crying here ....

... because I'm not going to feel sorry for your weak ass. And I will tell you about it.


you're weak. And not because you cry, but, because you have so little control over yourself that you expect other people to coddle your insecurities. Just like this thread. The only reason it's in place is because you were expecting other people to feel sorry for you ... and that's weakness.



Go back and reread what I wrote in response. As if it's incorrect to assume "we" statements are not representative of "I, also," or "Them and me." WE connotes YOURSELF as well. It means you are part of it.

Why would you think that others would assume sympathy would be easily handed over on the internet? Because you're the only "sensible" person on earth who knows that people hidden behind glass screens, who cannot see you or hear your voice, would not be the best place for sympathy?

I never expected others to coddle my insecurities. But what he did, triggering my PTSD, was wrong. That is a condition that should not be toyed with, and not something that you can just throw aside. He may have known about it circumstantially as I developed it out in the field. But "little control of yourself" and "you deserve what you got" are questionable statements-- Can you throw aside a needed crutch after a car crash? Can you ignore your dismembered leg and carry on as normal? Would it be right for other people to make fun of it as a way to make you feel bad about yourself?

You need to think harder about the things you say to other people. Your assumptions do not fit with the whole picture.
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But what he did, triggering my PTSD, was wrong. That is a condition that should not be toyed with, and not something that you can just throw aside.







The only person wrong ... was you.

You insinuate that he shouldn't have toyed with a condition you have ... yet, you are the one who thought so little of it that you threw it out there for other people to comment on.

You're the only problem here, which you refuse to acknowledge because then you'd have to be responsible for yourself and you're just not going to do that.


Because you're weak. Weak people cannot help themselves, they depend on other people to approve of them, so they can feel special.

Those guys don't feel sorry for you. If you were really that close to one of the dudes, then he wouldn't have done that. But, he did do it, which means you aren't even aware of the dynamics of your own acquaintances.

which means you are out there throwing your personal shit around, and then crying when people don't coddle your feelings about it.


You're walking in moron territory. Perhaps you should check that.
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You insinuate that he shouldn't have toyed with a condition you have ... yet, you are the one who thought so little of it that you threw it out there for other people to comment on.

Those guys don't feel sorry for you. If you were really that close to one of the dudes, then he wouldn't have done that. But, he did do it, which means you aren't even aware of the dynamics of your own acquaintances.

You're walking in moron territory. Perhaps you should check that.



Now that makes more sense. I did underestimate the extent of my condition and fell for his bait. And, I completely agree they do not feel close to me and what conspired only proves that. And to continue not acknowledging that would indeed put me in moron territory.

My response? I don't care about them anymore. I'm going to go on with my life, happy as can be, striving. Life is too short, and I hate to waste my time.
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1) why does anyone outside of management/HR at your place of employment know about your PTSD? That's information no one needs to know unless it has the potential to affect the ability to do your job or affect the safety of other employees.

2) why are you even engaging in any discussions at work that would even lead to triggering your PTSD? This is your livliehood, not a bullshit fest on the back porch. You should be conducting yourself in a manner appropriate to a place of business.


Were these guys assholes? Maybe.

But you have a responsibility to conduct yourself like an adult and not entertain these assholes. You share a portion of blame in this clusterfuck.

You can only control you...not other people, so instead of externalizing this shit and blaming others, why not ask yourself how you are going to avoid this type of situation again?



Good points. I do have some control over this situation. I didn't realize the extent of my condition until what happened, and it will never happen again. At the very least, it made clear to me where I want to stand in relation to them and how to handle our relationship from here on out. Good.
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What were they thinking??



They were thinking the same - that you are a weak type of personality.

Crying in front of Scorpio males - nah. They don't feel pity on you. They were listening their intuition

what possible disturbance you're going to do. Scorpio are very vigilant. We know our enemy. We feel it.

We stand the ground fighting until we gain the victory. and I adore these male scorpio even some of them

are @ssholes - there is something about Scorpio ( vulnerable side ) - and that's sweetest thing about them.
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oh dear, I agree with this totally...Am I unevolved? oh boy lol if its a serious matter of course I would not find it funny, but if its something that I personally think a person should NOT get emotional abt then yeah, im definitely gonna have a smirk on my face thinking "God this person is emotionally weak"...
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You insinuate that he shouldn't have toyed with a condition you have ... yet, you are the one who thought so little of it that you threw it out there for other people to comment on.

Those guys don't feel sorry for you. If you were really that close to one of the dudes, then he wouldn't have done that. But, he did do it, which means you aren't even aware of the dynamics of your own acquaintances.

You're walking in moron territory. Perhaps you should check that.



Now that makes more sense. I did underestimate the extent of my condition and fell for his bait. And, I completely agree they do not feel close to me and what conspired only proves that. And to continue not acknowledging that would indeed put me in moron territory.

My response? I don't care about them anymore. I'm going to go on with my life, happy as can be, striving. Life is too short, and I hate to waste my time.
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Considering this post is reiterating the first post, there is no more or less sense, rather the same sense.

Don't confuse the condition of .... your panties wadded up your ass because you don't like the tone of the messenger, with the rationale of the message. That is if you plan on not looking any more a fool.

To feign not caring as the motive to carryon with your life unabated is not resolving the issue ... it's ignoring it.

You have the problem of betraying your own self because you don't have the proper judgment skills to discern who/what you should be openly talking about.

so, what are you going to do about it? ... just carry on as if nothing happened, as you proposed?



If that's the case ..... suffer as you with, then.
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*wish

... suffer as you wish, then.



On the contrary, your new post changed with new information. Although you tarted it up to try and make the same points, all it became was nothing more than grade-school insulting. It still is. So I ignored the name calling and picked points that were applicable, but still required a bit of imagination to truly apply to my situation. I was in a generous mood.

In answer to the previous, I am beyond giving a fuck. How can I sugfer when I do not care? My life goes on, and it's high time I move too.