Scorpio woman and Scorpio man

Hello Scorps,

First time posting. I'll get right to the point...

I was talking to this Scorpio guy for a month or so. We are both Venus in Scorpio and mercury in Scorpio so we are pretty intense people. When we first met at a party it was instant connection. Something drew me to him like a force. I thought he would never talk to me and he came up to me right away. Later he admitted something drew him to me also. I wish things started differently between us but can't take it back now. He came on way too strong and I had my defences up. I was afraid of my own feelings and getting carried away with that force so I resisted. I can't let myself go before I really trust you. We chilled all night and he forced a kiss out of me. It was really hot so I kissed him back and we made out. It got too hot and heavy and I ran away from him. Took his number but wouldn't give him mine. When I managed to calm down all my emotions I texted him (the next day) and said sorry for running away and that I wanna see him. Since then all he did was get revenge on me. We hung out and he acted over confident and rude. Kept saying he knew I'd call. Kept stinging me for no reason. I saw right through it... Left disappointed thinking that's that but then he continues to text me. He would text me once a week. I never initiated because I was tryna read him. I kept waiting for him to ask me to see me again but nothing. I brought it up one time and he said sorry he was busy but he's dying to see me again.. That was a week before our fight. He messaged me after that saying he was bored and it really pissed me off so I snapped. Then he snapped worse and we never talked since. In the heat of the moment I deleted him from my fb too. I'm sure he noticed at some point. Now it's been a month and I think about him every day. I've even had really hot sex dreams about him.. So I've been waiting for the perfect moment for something to happen where we have to talk again but nothing. Then I hear from my friend that he's talking to this Leo... Really? A Leo? I don't know if he likes her they just met. But I looked her up on fb and she posted some random sexual/passionate black and white photo right around the time she met him and I'm going crazy thinking they had sex or something I don't know if that pictures means anyhing... I have 2 questions. 1- is there hope for a Leo woman and Scorpio man? I thought this wasn't a match..
2- what am I supposed to do now? I want him but I can't say it.. It's too

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Ok I understand there could be attraction but in terms of having that "bond" and vibing with the person I thought it wasn't a match..

Anyway should I leave them be and try to move on? Will he come to me eventually if he really wants me? I don't want to let something develop between them (they just me) if I need to make my feelings known but it's not exactly easy to speak up especially in this situation where I feel like he's just as guilty as me...

I just don't want to look like an idiot if we're not on the same wavelength right now.. If he's thinking of me too it's one thing. But if he's chasing this Leo I'll just look stupid.. My pride is everything he messed up too whys he not messaging me ..

What would I say? After telling someone off what do you say? I'm really bad at this..I wish he just knew how I felt without me saying it..

Wow! You're a little desperate, aren't you? I'm just messing! 😄 No, Scorpio man/Leo woman isn't a good match, but they CAN work, and that's my definitive belief(bearing in mind certain things go their way to help those two). But with Scorpio man/Scorpio woman, you've got a fifty-fifty chance. So, a little better, but those two still have got a long way to go in order to make it work. Both Scorpios want to be in charge(in both the outside world and in the bedroom) and neither wants to back down, especially in an argument! The sex is good! But when it's Scorpio/Scorpio, it becomes too much of contest of who can out sex who and who can out passion who. So, if you're willing to deal with that and this guy means that much to you, then I say go for it!

Lmao hey silverscorp when you know the sex is gonna be good, you can't help yourself I guess I don't know lol I always want what I can't have.. So I should text him then? What do I say? Ugh it's really hard for me to back down in an argument even now... I could deal with everything else. I feel like he should text me first but this Leo is screwing up the flow of things because he's gonna be distracted now.. so my plan of waiting it out might not be so good anymore

Hey exo well I did the first time when I took his number but didn't give him mine. And I even said I wanted to see him. I know I ran away so it was up to me to put it out there to see him again.. His reaction tho _??_ ..killed it for me in terms of making contact again.

Posted by SilverScorpio
Wow! You're a little desperate, aren't you? I'm just messing! 😄 No, Scorpio man/Leo woman isn't a good match, but they CAN work, and that's my definitive belief(bearing in mind certain things go their way to help those two). But with Scorpio man/Scorpio woman, you've got a fifty-fifty chance. So, a little better, but those two still have got a long way to go in order to make it work. Both Scorpios want to be in charge(in both the outside world and in the bedroom) and neither wants to back down, especially in an argument! The sex is good! But when it's Scorpio/Scorpio, it becomes too much of contest of who can out sex who and who can out passion who. So, if you're willing to deal with that and this guy means that much to you, then I say go for it!

Given that there are two scenarios in every relationship, either they succeed or they fail, every relationship has a 50% chance to make it.

Minus that, I agree with what you said about the control. Someone needs to become more submissive and this relationship can work.

Posted by Scorpionsting001
Lmao hey silverscorp when you know the sex is gonna be good, you can't help yourself I guess I don't know lol I always want what I can't have.. So I should text him then? What do I say? Ugh it's really hard for me to back down in an argument even now... I could deal with everything else. I feel like he should text me first but this Leo is screwing up the flow of things because he's gonna be distracted now.. so my plan of waiting it out might not be so good anymore

I know this isn't what you want to hear, but: After reading it over, I'd say for you to let him go. He came over to you too strongly, you didn't like that, kept up being an arrogant prick and you still wanted him and you two finally went your separate ways and now he's talking to a Leo woman? I'd say let him go. If you want him, tell your feelings to him and see what happens, but don't get your hopes up because it seems like he has moved on.

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Posted by SilverScorpio
Wow! You're a little desperate, aren't you? I'm just messing! 😄 No, Scorpio man/Leo woman isn't a good match, but they CAN work, and that's my definitive belief(bearing in mind certain things go their way to help those two). But with Scorpio man/Scorpio woman, you've got a fifty-fifty chance. So, a little better, but those two still have got a long way to go in order to make it work. Both Scorpios want to be in charge(in both the outside world and in the bedroom) and neither wants to back down, especially in an argument! The sex is good! But when it's Scorpio/Scorpio, it becomes too much of contest of who can out sex who and who can out passion who. So, if you're willing to deal with that and this guy means that much to you, then I say go for it!

Given that there are two scenarios in every relationship, either they succeed or they fail, every relationship has a 50% chance to make it.

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I'm of the belief that any sign/relationship can work. That being said, I concur with your assessment.

I did tell him the day after when I texted him that I ran away because things were getting too intense too fast and I said sorry. If he didn't act so arrogant when we hung out the second time, I would've opened up more. But he killed the vibe. I don't know my initial impression was that he backed off because I gave in...but as a Scorpio I know there was an element of revenge to it too.

I want to clear the air about the argument that led to us not talking but I'm stubborn as treetrunk. I feel like everything's linked together not just that argument.

I wanna contact him but there's something stopping me.. Probably my ego... wanted to get other Scorps opinion like if it's a good idea and why he hasn't contacted me either. I guess I'm worried about rejection mainly

Hey silverscorp... Thanks cuz I been blaming myself for running away and not giving in to emotion but that's me I always control the tide of emotion going on inside me at all times... I just wanna clarify tho that the first time around he wasn't arrogant at all he was actually really sweet and when we were kissing he kept saying "oh my god what are you doing to me" and "wow this feels so good" etc but it seemed like everything was too intense and happening too fast and I don't just jump into things like that.. (I'm a mars in capricorn maybe that's why) When I saw him again he did a 180 and that's when he acted all arrogant and I didn't know if that was the real him or his rejected/ vengeful Scorpio comin out.. Maybe both? He's so dam hard to read but i know he hides his emotions well.. that I can sense for sure I just can't tell his intentions/feelings for me

I had a similar situation with a fella where he was really nice when we met then next time round he was a complete prick. I thought I'd missed something as it was like two different people!! No idea why but perhaps that was just another side to his personality. If you don't know him well then just take his behaviour as part of his personality.

I'm a Scorp Sun and Venus and have a male friend with these placements and a Scorp Moon. It's just too intense for romance, not that I feel that way about him. It's like talking or dealing with myself though! Horrible!!

Personally, I'd stay away from Venus in Scorp unless they're older or mature. It's a really hard placement to deal with and understand. My friend would cut his nose to spite his face so many times. He couldn't always see outside of himself. We do feel extremely deeply, you probably know this anyway!

I'd say he's probably gone for good UNLESS he sees any point or value to you.

I will cut someone off if I have to but I've been known to keep in touch with someone IF I'm gaining any benefit from them.

It sounds like he's not going to contact you so you have a battle of wills.

It's also worth mentioning that as Venus in Scorp we get VERY obsessive and often without good reason. I can see that in your posts. You are likely to think or feel you want him more because you can't have him and because he's interested in someone else. As I say, it's a hard placement to deal with so two together is a bloody nightmare!!

Agentp you got it spot on about the interaction between 2 scorps with Venus in Scorpio but I loved that vibe/connection I was thinking finally someone who's not gonna bore me I dunno I can handle the ups and downs .. I secretly thrive in it I hate to admit ... (Not that I start drama for no reason cuz trust me there's a good reason if I do) ..and didn't think this would be the end of us I mean if I feel this way shouldn't he also feel this way if he's the male version of me? I have a hard time letting go but I'm also so stubborn that I will cut someone off even when it kills me which I think is what we both did and I don't wanna let it go now but I'm not actin on it either.

Yeah ur right Venus in Scorpio is a really difficult placement and does it manifest itself differently in men? Cuz I swear the men are worse from what I seen..

Also what benefit could he see we don't know each other well enough. I'm going based on a vibe, I got nothing else ..but the vibe was so dam good

The guys can be worse but depending on other placements.

I just meant that for me, even if I don't like someone, if we have to get on then I will try to get get on. For example, at work or with a family member. Sometimes you just have to put pride aside and deal with it instead of cutting someone off. You never know when you might need them. Hence, deriving a benefit of some sort. I'm not referring to FWB.

My Scorp friend has recently cut me off after eight years. His loss but he's gotta do what he's gotta do. He doesn't see any benefit to our friendship any more. Fair enough. If he wants to reconvene after he's sirted his stuff out then no problem. Door is open. Dunno what he's useful for but we did get on well for chatting and often we would cook together and we like the same football (soccer) team.

The trouble with the two Scorps is those ups and downs. I understand you thrive on it but after a while it's just exhausting. It's exhausting dealing with me let alone double me! I tend to stay away from water placements as it can just get too much. Too intense, too moody, too stubborn, too manipulative, just too much like hard work!

I'm currently checking out an Aqua Sun and Merc with Cap Venus and both Moon and Mars in Pisces. I have Moon in Pisces so it might be interesting.

I'd recommend putting your pride aside and just talking with him open and honestly.

He'll do one of two things:

He'll either listen and accept what you're saying and then respond to say he is or isn't interested. You win some, you lose some.

Or

He'll be a fucking arrogant prick about it at which point you can bid him good day and jog on.

You will probably demonstrate that your balls are bigger than his balls by having the balls to actually be reasonable about the whole thing. If he becomes a child then know he has no balls and it would never have worked out.

Scorp Venus NEEDS a man with balls!! Anything less just won't do!!

Exo, you think there's no chance he's gonna do it if I wait? It haaaas to be me?

And agentp, none of the scenarios you described I can handle except the one where he hears me out and feels the same way. Plus there's not much to hear out anyway.. I feel like all I could say is that I been thinking about him and it's stupid to walk away over a silly argument and maybe explain the running away thing one more time.. I mean what else is there to say...

I'm gonna have to sleep on this an see how I feel.. I've been reading a lot online about Scorpio men and Venus in Scorpio and it says that they need to realize on their own that they want you so have I given him enough time? I dunno..

About the water signs.. I've only dated earth. (Caps and Virgos) this is my first Scorpio and I find hilarious that we have almost the exact same placements.. TECHNICALLY this should've worked out perf! Ha thanks a lot cafe astrology

I say date someone new. From that there are 2 options:
A) he realize what he missed and comes back, but this time will be in your terms if you decide yo give him a chance.
B) you meet someone really nice and finally realize what a jerk the scorp was.
Win win situation. Even if the new person is not right for you at least will keep your mind out of him.

This is really good advice from both.

Think I'm gonna sleep on it and wait some more for now.. Still too stubborn to text but don't feel like dating someone new either. I'm just stubborn what can I say. I need to be sure I want to move on or sure I want to contact Scorpio before I do it..

I was talkin to this other Scorpio right before I met this Scorpio and I could easily rekindle that romance with one text.. I just don't feel like it cuz I know if I do there's no going back. I'm very black and white like that.. If I move on ur dead to me.. Many past lovers have come back when it was too late and it all started with me deciding to date someone new.. But the idea is tempting..I guess I just have to be ready to do it and I'm not

Right after I posted that I realized that if he's actually moved on with Leo I'm probably dead to him too... Unless he hasn't moved on yet but I have no way of finding out without putting myself out there

Embrace the water way.

Let our love be a flame, not an ember...

Say it's me that you want to dismember..

You don't want to move on when he clearly has? Fine, you have two options:
A) talk to him, make your feelings know, get heartbroken and then move on.
B) Continue on this half hopeful half agony situation until you hear that they are in a relationship/ living together/ married, get heartbroken and then move on.
As a scorpio myself I understand that you can't control what you feel but you can always control how you act.