SEDUCTION'S RULES

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bella_ragazza
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I've just read this book last nite.Very illuminating!They say that-if you play by those rules-you'll get the man of your dreams eat from your hand-sort of speaking.
One of the rules says that you must wait for him to declare his love for you -and only after that you can safely say I love You in return.But-please explain to me-if that man is let's say a scorpio who hides his feelings-how in the name of God will I be able to obey these rules?
Of course I want to to feel safe about the relationship and that I'd like to let him lead -but with a guy who avoids at all costs to let his guard down ...?!?!
The promise of this book is that you will love only the one who love you and that you will be spared of emotional misery!Sounds so good!
Let me quote Rule no5😄on't call him and seldom return his calls!!!!
And more-Rule no6 Always be you who finishes your phone conversation!
Gals-how about that?
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bella ragazza - forgive me for using your post to write my post, but I could not create
a new topic for some reason. Perhaps its because I'm a rookie at this?

If you can help me create a new topic - I would certainly appreciate it and be
totally indebted to you!!! - Topic was going to be: Aires & Scorp Reunited?

This is my first posting even tho I visit this site quite often in attempts to
understand the unique sign of Scorpio. Altho I have Aires Sun, I have my Moon and
Neptune in Scorpio, with the balance of planets predominantly in earth signs. I
can relate to so many aspects of the Scorpio traits I have witnessed at this site
as well as many other Astrology sites.

I'm at this point in time trying to solicit advice and opinions from any male Scorps,
and females, that can add any insight into this relationship dilemma. To get to the
reason for my post, I need to give you some history first (so PLEASE bare with me):

Over 2 years ago, I dated a male Scorp for 8 months. Our coming together was something
"out of this world". We connected immediately, understood each other on many levels, and
had similar goals and desires. Considering we are both divorced, and had both dealt with many
ups/downs in previous relationship, ending in a bad divorce (for me it was 2 years since my divorce
- for him 4 years). So we took our time getting closer, building a bond built on trust and honesty.
This man was everything to me, and I felt that after all we had BOTH been through, God finally brought
two people deserving of committed love together. It took us four months before we "consummated" our
relationship, and the coming together was something that only lived in my dreams. So, without getting
too longwinded, a couple of months after our "coming together", he began to withdraw from me, at first
making excuses of being busy, responsibilities building with his kids, etc. Less than 3 months after our
one special night - he totally walked out of my life indicating he wasn't as ready for commitment as he
first had thought, or the time to dedicate to this relationship with other responsibilities lingering in the
background. He also indicated that if he and I 'were meant to be', we would come full circle. I was absolutely
devastated to say the least, totally heartbroken over losing a friend, lover, soul mate. It took me a LONG time to
get over this man, who did not ONCE ever call or contact me after that last conversation. I gave up on the hope
that one day we would re-unite and tried to move on with my life although no man who came after him, that showed a
remote interest in me, ever measured up to the bond he and I shared!

To add a twist to this fairytale romance, after 2 years of NO contact,
NO seeing each other at all, he appeared at my doorstep
2 weeks ago. I was shocked! I thought I would NEVER see this man again.
To make a long story short, he did not close the door as easily as I thought
he had, had given me and our relationship a lot of thought over the course of
these past 2 years, settled a lot of "personal" issues with his kids/family
and ultimately, asked whether we could give our relationship another chance.
Can you believe this? As angry as I was about how he walked out of my life,
I also knew what this man meant to me, so I committed to keeping the lines of
communication between us open, and that I would NOT close the door to the
possibility of a 2nd chance. We spent a week getting re-aquainted, and how
easily we picked up where we left off relative to thoughts, desires, goals, etc.
He even invited me to be his date for Valentines at a function he had organized,
and that his family would also be in attendance at. I was "over the moon", and
accepted his invitation graciously. To make
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phoenix_rising
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I never, ever, ever approach men. I can't think of a single boyfriend I've had who I propositioned or approached in any way whatsoever. And I have a lot of reasons for that. The first being that (believe it or not) I am pretty shy. And I feel stupid trying to flirt, even though I end up flirting anyway if I've been approached by someone I might like. It's weird--if I try, I generally suck at it. But if I just let the natural progression of things take over, then the flirting goes pretty well. Anyway, to get to Natasha's situation, my dear, this guy is a first class asswipe. It sounds to me like he merely wanted you there as backup, as a familiar face to calm his nerves, or to show that he had a valentine's day date. When a man does not introduce you to his family and friends at such an event, he is not only being disrespectful to you, but he is (in my opinion) demonstrating that "things aren't permanent" "I'm not attached"...that sort of thing. Men, when they like you or love you, want to show you off to anyone and everyone they can. At least, this has been my experience. I would be very hurt by what this guy pulled. And if I were you, I'd cut him off completely from my life. I don't believe he's investing enough in you emotionally for this turmoil to be worth it to you. My opinion is that you should cut him off.
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BeautifulScorpion
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...First off, I think you are expecting too much. Just be happy that he actually came back into your life. He probably isn't calling you because you are complaining and he knows you are upset and doesn't wanna deal with it. Just because he did not show you off doesn't mean anything at all. Let me tell you, when I'm with someone I do not tell anyone unless they ASK. And also, they could see if you were there WITH him then YOU probably are his DATE. But why do you expect so much when he shows up after miscommunication for 2 years? Come on now, stop, you're being ridiculous. Do not expect the best all the time. I mean, yes, I agree with people about the showing off bullcrap, but that's not neccessarily true. He is not ALL men, some men do and some men don't. So what is it you want from him after 2 years of not communicating with him? What do you expect? Stop fishing for attention, you were gonna get it eventually.

Let me tell you this one thing, my ex-boyfriend was surprised at the fact that when me and him were together at first... I didn't tell ANYONE, unless they asked. The second time we tried again, I still didn't tell anyone, nobody knew about him. I did this because I don't want anyone in my business, everytime it happens something goes wrong, just the matter of privacy. Things that are important to me, I keep secret, especially people, I don't know why... I just do. This might not be why he is doing it. But I do it to any person I cherish, they don't understand, but really I don't care, because if they want to get all petty and trip over something like that, then that's there loss.

Maybe you're just not fit for him... or maybe you should tell him that you had a problem with him not showing you off and giving you enough attention when you guys were at wherever you were.
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dear rrad:
that is pretty typical scorp behavior. they leave when you fall for them. it's a fail safe method for them, because once you love them, you basically always will. so it gives them the upper hand, so to speak. well, in their minds anyway. they're very insecure. have to be the center of your attention, and they will get that by leaving you. do you understand that concept? then you have to prove your loyalty to them somehow. so that's the leave 'em, and return after a while test. to see if you really love them. then they might do it again. they're quirky individuals. great fun, great sex. you just have to decide if you can live with those quirks. best of luck.
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well, haffo-brain, (sorry, but you set yourself up for that one, couldn't resist...sorry, you're probably a very nice person, but you might wanna change that user name though)

so anyway....
those who have an ear, let them hear. (as it was once said.) that is my opinion of scorps. i constantly get amazed at the people who get on here with that same sob story about scorps. but hey, don't get me wrong...i was one once. live and learn.
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Bella,
I once watched a movie called "The Tao of Steve," there's also another one that's out on video recently, "Hitch" both are pretty good movies. Well, there were some rather valid points put in these movies, how women want someone to be interested, yet not too interested... Basically the whole thrill of the chase thing. It's the same, at least in my experience for men. Any guy I have been interested in, I've avoided, reason being, I'm an idiot when I truly like someone. I make a total a $ $ of myself. The same is true with the calling thing, if I'm interested in someone, I have a heck of a time getting myself to call them, again with the whole making a total a $ $ of myself. Tried the head-on approach, sucked at it... lol... So... I would have to say there is an element of truth to what that book says, cause someone like me, actually gets attention, from the guys I'm interested in. Doesn't always work out, so know that it's not a fool proof method, but for the most part, yes I would say it does work.

Storm
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From "The Starry Eyed Zodiascope":

SCORPIO (Oct 24 - Nov 22)
If Scorpios tend to get the toughest rap in astrology,
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Any stories, good or bad out there of two scorps in a relationship together? I would almost hypothesize that the heat would be too much...that the intensity would be overwhelming.

Very curious about your stories if you or someone you know has be
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This is for all you "Scorlibrans" out there, I am one of them so I found this to be very insightful and relevant. I know I've been doing a lot of cutting and pasting lately, but I like to share stuff I find interesting :)

This is from http://www
phoenix_rising
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Sometimes I wonder if astrology is based on pure theory...typically western astrology.
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