Edmon Adoniz
@ewashington7000
15 YearsLibra
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Tw Question For All Of You Beautiful Scorpio Women
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I agree with LS on all aspects of her post. If I am not interested, I will avoid you. Not only applies to love interests, but people I dislike as well.
And I vote yes as well about the nice smile!!!!
And I vote yes as well about the nice smile!!!!
Thank-you for all of your honest feedback.
@ LovelyScorp
Interesting. Some of the Scorpio women that I know tend to (pretend to) ignore men whom have intrigued, or interested, them. Plus, these same Scorpio women tend to be SUPER blunt to men that do not interest them. (Go figure)
What sign am I? Well....I may get killed on this board for saying this but I appear to be Scorpio's current # 1 nemesis: Libra, even a passionately artistic/intellectual one.
@ seavixen2 and @ LovelyScorp
I am somewhat blushing right now but I humbly thank you for your warm compliments and honest advice.
But please suffer me to give a brief account of my little 'situation' within my next post. Perhaps I can acquire some valuable insight from your responses.
Thanks.
@ LovelyScorp
Interesting. Some of the Scorpio women that I know tend to (pretend to) ignore men whom have intrigued, or interested, them. Plus, these same Scorpio women tend to be SUPER blunt to men that do not interest them. (Go figure)
What sign am I? Well....I may get killed on this board for saying this but I appear to be Scorpio's current # 1 nemesis: Libra, even a passionately artistic/intellectual one.
@ seavixen2 and @ LovelyScorp
I am somewhat blushing right now but I humbly thank you for your warm compliments and honest advice.
But please suffer me to give a brief account of my little 'situation' within my next post. Perhaps I can acquire some valuable insight from your responses.
Thanks.
About a few months ago, I had asked a Scorpio lady whether she knew of any female willing to attend a military ball with me. (I am 'currently' an infantryman in US Army. But outside of the military, I act, model, and produce/record music professionally.) She replied by asking me several times where the military ball was going to be held, and then offered to attend it with me - if it were near her state of residence. So, naturally, I agreed.
Now in January of this year, I had just gotten back in contact with this lady via facebook. (I had attended high school with her.) While in Iraq, I would (and still do) occasionally send her a few words of encouragement or comment on a blog that she had created. (Occasionally, she'd do the same for me.) I'd even asked her to do lunch with me (platonically), and she'd agreed to it. As time passed, my 'feelings' for her began to 'resurface.' I tried to denied them but I desired not to deceive myself.
So, perhaps foolishly, as it seemed, I naturally wrote her an honest message, revealing to her that I found her to be a very intelligent, hard-working, beautiful lady; and that I really liked her. But I immediately clarified/prefaced my 'revelation' with the fact that I NEITHER expected her to have any reciprocal feeling(s) for me NOR did I expect her to start anything with me; but that I was merely being honest with her, as, realistically, I might not ever have another chance to express myself in such a manner with her. (I was flying back to Iraq from my leave of absence at the time and it was still fairly dangerous over here for us infantrymen.)
But to my astonishment/wonderment, she wrote back! Now guess what she said within her message? She asked me two questions and made one comment: that is, she asked me what grade did I get in my high school writing course and whether I had attended college; and then commented that I had 'a gift for writing.' (Go figure.)
Now, I attended a university out west, double majoring in mathematics and physics. I used to even tutor/teach college folk in mathematics, metalogic, and logic. So, naturally, I love solving math equations or logically proving things. But NEVER ,EVER (to the 18th power) had I been so stumped by such a puzzling reality (i.e., her response to me revealing my feelings for her). I was completely dumbfounded. It was like she totally ignored the fact that I revealed to her my honest feelings, but attentively commented on how well I wrote. Roger that.
Now in January of this year, I had just gotten back in contact with this lady via facebook. (I had attended high school with her.) While in Iraq, I would (and still do) occasionally send her a few words of encouragement or comment on a blog that she had created. (Occasionally, she'd do the same for me.) I'd even asked her to do lunch with me (platonically), and she'd agreed to it. As time passed, my 'feelings' for her began to 'resurface.' I tried to denied them but I desired not to deceive myself.
So, perhaps foolishly, as it seemed, I naturally wrote her an honest message, revealing to her that I found her to be a very intelligent, hard-working, beautiful lady; and that I really liked her. But I immediately clarified/prefaced my 'revelation' with the fact that I NEITHER expected her to have any reciprocal feeling(s) for me NOR did I expect her to start anything with me; but that I was merely being honest with her, as, realistically, I might not ever have another chance to express myself in such a manner with her. (I was flying back to Iraq from my leave of absence at the time and it was still fairly dangerous over here for us infantrymen.)
But to my astonishment/wonderment, she wrote back! Now guess what she said within her message? She asked me two questions and made one comment: that is, she asked me what grade did I get in my high school writing course and whether I had attended college; and then commented that I had 'a gift for writing.' (Go figure.)
Now, I attended a university out west, double majoring in mathematics and physics. I used to even tutor/teach college folk in mathematics, metalogic, and logic. So, naturally, I love solving math equations or logically proving things. But NEVER ,EVER (to the 18th power) had I been so stumped by such a puzzling reality (i.e., her response to me revealing my feelings for her). I was completely dumbfounded. It was like she totally ignored the fact that I revealed to her my honest feelings, but attentively commented on how well I wrote. Roger that.
@ Beetleguese
No excuse necessary for any male intrusion sir. I welcome any insight.
She commented on one of my pics saying that she liked my pic and smile. So I, safely, did the same on one of hers, noting that her eyes were rather gorgeous and magnetic. But she did this after I debated with her on a blog. (Despite overwhelming counter evidence, she still would not concede.)
For the time being, she and I are 6000 miles apart. I would like to experiment with your suggestion with her in person and then test how strong her seeming 'aloofness' or hard shell is under (Libran) pressure...lol Thanks.
No excuse necessary for any male intrusion sir. I welcome any insight.
She commented on one of my pics saying that she liked my pic and smile. So I, safely, did the same on one of hers, noting that her eyes were rather gorgeous and magnetic. But she did this after I debated with her on a blog. (Despite overwhelming counter evidence, she still would not concede.)
For the time being, she and I are 6000 miles apart. I would like to experiment with your suggestion with her in person and then test how strong her seeming 'aloofness' or hard shell is under (Libran) pressure...lol Thanks.
" We ignore or avoid you at all costs. Telling you we are disinterested is uncomfortable (only, speaking for me but straightforward is a skill I'm trying to acquire). We don't return phone calls or texts. If we do see you face to face we are cordial and sweet but short and to the point. Just simple "niceness". "
The above thing that LovScorp said is 100% true. I actually go out of my way to avoid that person...like not even saying hi or bye or staring...and if we do cross paths I can go as far as changing directions...please don't see it as an immature reaction...It's just that I would never ever want to lead someone on...once I have said NO, chances are I won't regret it or change my mind...
Now if I am interested...it can go two different ways...if it starts out gradually, let's say the person is a friend...it won't be too hard...slowly slowly I ll try to spend as much time as possible with my person of interest, ask about their hobbies, share stories about me, find anything to say...I could go trough a drifting apart stage because I realize how serious things are getting...but than get right back on my person of interest's case. Actually I said he could go 2 ways...but really there is only one way...I guess this could be happening at different speeds depending on how strongly I feel about the person!
The above thing that LovScorp said is 100% true. I actually go out of my way to avoid that person...like not even saying hi or bye or staring...and if we do cross paths I can go as far as changing directions...please don't see it as an immature reaction...It's just that I would never ever want to lead someone on...once I have said NO, chances are I won't regret it or change my mind...
Now if I am interested...it can go two different ways...if it starts out gradually, let's say the person is a friend...it won't be too hard...slowly slowly I ll try to spend as much time as possible with my person of interest, ask about their hobbies, share stories about me, find anything to say...I could go trough a drifting apart stage because I realize how serious things are getting...but than get right back on my person of interest's case. Actually I said he could go 2 ways...but really there is only one way...I guess this could be happening at different speeds depending on how strongly I feel about the person!
ewashington7000, popping in to say thank you for your service to our country.
@ candiz
Thanks for the compliment...lol
Since she and I are thousands of miles apart from each other, we only communicate online - via facebook or email. In light of your comment, I guess that if she is not interested, she will avoid me. But she has not chosen to do so thus far (I think?!). In fact, she appears to be skillfully digesting my words and replying to me as she chooses. I suspect that she does not quite know yet how to respond my forwardness. Now, I do understand that many Scorpio women are suspicious of kind words or gestures.
To make matter worse, I am tempted to say that she's 'playing hard to get': apparently, another game that some Scorpio women play. But I may be mistaken.
Thanks for the compliment...lol
Since she and I are thousands of miles apart from each other, we only communicate online - via facebook or email. In light of your comment, I guess that if she is not interested, she will avoid me. But she has not chosen to do so thus far (I think?!). In fact, she appears to be skillfully digesting my words and replying to me as she chooses. I suspect that she does not quite know yet how to respond my forwardness. Now, I do understand that many Scorpio women are suspicious of kind words or gestures.
To make matter worse, I am tempted to say that she's 'playing hard to get': apparently, another game that some Scorpio women play. But I may be mistaken.
@ LovelScorp
I am sorry. I am new to these forums. I didn't even realize that you responded.
Often, my absentmindedness blinds me. A compliment hunh? Plus, she is single; and she, even in the fascinating way that Scorpio women often do, very much broadcasts her relationship status (albeit subtly to those who are not familiar with the technique...lol)
I am sorry. I am new to these forums. I didn't even realize that you responded.
Often, my absentmindedness blinds me. A compliment hunh? Plus, she is single; and she, even in the fascinating way that Scorpio women often do, very much broadcasts her relationship status (albeit subtly to those who are not familiar with the technique...lol)
I had a relationship once with a guy that was basically online based(although I did see him from time to time). So I will tell you this and hopefully it sheds some light on your situation as well. I absorbed everything the guy said in email. I read and reread his emails, yet my responses were very controlled. No way I was gonna let on how I felt for him until I was sure that his feelings were sincere. So even though you feel your Scorpio is playing games, it doesn't sound like it to me. She is a typical Scorp woman.
This guy was so complimentary to me, yet I felt uncomfortable with the compliments. That's a Scorp thing. Doesn't mean that you aren't sincere, it's just not easy for us to accept them.
If I could offer any advice, I would tell you, just because she hasn't responded to you admitting your feelings for her, doesn't mean she doesn't have feelings for you. She might just be waiting for validation(from herself)to admit she feels the same about you. Don't give up!!!!
This guy was so complimentary to me, yet I felt uncomfortable with the compliments. That's a Scorp thing. Doesn't mean that you aren't sincere, it's just not easy for us to accept them.
If I could offer any advice, I would tell you, just because she hasn't responded to you admitting your feelings for her, doesn't mean she doesn't have feelings for you. She might just be waiting for validation(from herself)to admit she feels the same about you. Don't give up!!!!
@ aPiscesPrincess
Moon in Libra
Moon in Libra
Are you a Taurus? Only a Scorpio woman can get a male Taurus into such a lustful frenzy!
Awww, ewashington! You're so cute!
I can't really judge by what you've written, whether or not she has romantic interest in you. You'll just have to wait and see, young man.
And thank you as well for your service!
I can't really judge by what you've written, whether or not she has romantic interest in you. You'll just have to wait and see, young man.
And thank you as well for your service!
Posted by LovelyScorp
My opinion.....
1. We ignore or avoid you at all costs. Telling you we are disinterested is uncomfortable (only, speaking for me but straightforward is a skill I'm trying to acquire). We don't return phone calls or texts. If we do see you face to face we are cordial and sweet but short and to the point. Just simple "niceness".
What you've wrote about could as easily be interpreted as what most women will do, and act - not only Scorpio femals.
At least, my friends complain about all of that and the women are rarely scorpios.
Posted by Cinnamon Girl
Are you a Taurus? Only a Scorpio woman can get a male Taurus into such a lustful frenzy!
I am (apparently) Scorpio's nemesis: Libra.
"Such a lustful frenzy"? I wouldn't call it that. I'd rather say more like such a romantic confusion.
@ ScorpSuperior
By what I've written, I don't even understand whether she has romantic interest in me!..lol
But I will say this: It appears as though she knows exactly what she's doing. When I've posted, for instance, some following thoughts of mine online, and a former model that I know subsequently offers her approval of it (i.e., "Likes" it), some interesting things have begun to follow:
"The world seems to be teeming with so many beautiful women that I often find myself in awe, even wonderment, of the female gender. Words can hardly explain how grateful I am for such beautiful gifts to the world. But now I am presented with a seemingly very difficult situation: How do I choose 'one'? It's already hard enough that I am Libra; so now, amongst so many, I ought to choose one?"
Out of the blue, she 'liked' my comment as well, but seemingly only after my ex-model friend did. (Interesting)
But, nevertheless, I thank you for your kind words, appreciation, and insight. I am a humbly confident individual, but it 'seems' like I may not be cute enough....lol But she's lucky I'm about 6000 miles away from her. It's rather easy for her to put a seemingly impenetrable wall up while I'm not in person....lol
By what I've written, I don't even understand whether she has romantic interest in me!..lol
But I will say this: It appears as though she knows exactly what she's doing. When I've posted, for instance, some following thoughts of mine online, and a former model that I know subsequently offers her approval of it (i.e., "Likes" it), some interesting things have begun to follow:
"The world seems to be teeming with so many beautiful women that I often find myself in awe, even wonderment, of the female gender. Words can hardly explain how grateful I am for such beautiful gifts to the world. But now I am presented with a seemingly very difficult situation: How do I choose 'one'? It's already hard enough that I am Libra; so now, amongst so many, I ought to choose one?"
Out of the blue, she 'liked' my comment as well, but seemingly only after my ex-model friend did. (Interesting)
But, nevertheless, I thank you for your kind words, appreciation, and insight. I am a humbly confident individual, but it 'seems' like I may not be cute enough....lol But she's lucky I'm about 6000 miles away from her. It's rather easy for her to put a seemingly impenetrable wall up while I'm not in person....lol
@ Let*It*Be
(Your name signifies the name of one of the most beautiful songs that I've ever heard, written by Paul McCartney. Listening to this, initially, has brought me to tears.)
Regarding your remarks, your response to question # 1 reflects my typical experience with the Scorpio women whom I know. This perhaps is why I seem to be so baffled with my current situation; because I find it highly misleading to NOT tell an individual, even with clarity, what truly he or she feels, especially after this same individual has asked initially for such a response.
Also, your response to question # 2 reflects my understanding of the Scorpio women whom I know.
Thank-you.
(Your name signifies the name of one of the most beautiful songs that I've ever heard, written by Paul McCartney. Listening to this, initially, has brought me to tears.)
Regarding your remarks, your response to question # 1 reflects my typical experience with the Scorpio women whom I know. This perhaps is why I seem to be so baffled with my current situation; because I find it highly misleading to NOT tell an individual, even with clarity, what truly he or she feels, especially after this same individual has asked initially for such a response.
Also, your response to question # 2 reflects my understanding of the Scorpio women whom I know.
Thank-you.
Your message seems to have been cut off.
So....Because Ms. Scorpio had been rather quiet for quite some time regarding confirming whether she still wanted to accompany me to my unit's (4-9 Infantry) ball (if it were held in her State), and because my unit was, essentially, requiring us Manchus to attend this military ball lest we lose our 4-day passes (go figure), out of I urgency, I began to slightly fret. So, in response, last Friday on my status online, I'd posted the following:
"Why is my chain-of-command trying to force a Manchu infantryman to attend the
Manchu ball? Now I really have to find a date, lest I get denied 4-day
passes... Go figure."
A Pisces lady friend of mine responded to my status, asking what a 4-day was. I explained to her what it was.
This was when I sent a note to Ms Scorpio to see how she was doing. She said that she was doing well and asked about myself. I responded:
"I am glad that you are doing well! As 4 me, I don't recall ever being so busy in my entire life! From packing up our equipment and preparing 4 custom checks for redeployment (getting ready for an 'historical road march') to being forced to attend a stupid military balls, I'd say I'm doing swell!...lol"
"Why is my chain-of-command trying to force a Manchu infantryman to attend the
Manchu ball? Now I really have to find a date, lest I get denied 4-day
passes... Go figure."
A Pisces lady friend of mine responded to my status, asking what a 4-day was. I explained to her what it was.
This was when I sent a note to Ms Scorpio to see how she was doing. She said that she was doing well and asked about myself. I responded:
"I am glad that you are doing well! As 4 me, I don't recall ever being so busy in my entire life! From packing up our equipment and preparing 4 custom checks for redeployment (getting ready for an 'historical road march') to being forced to attend a stupid military balls, I'd say I'm doing swell!...lol"
Now, in trade secret Scorpio fashion, Ms. Scorpio responded:
"that's good to know.
i am not gonna be able to attend the military ball with you. i'm sorry"
Now, as you could've imagined, this Libra was very much saddened, not only because I was disappointed by her (apparently)* sudden 'change of heart,' but also because NO explanation was given to me for her actions. So naturally, I responded:
"I somewhat figured that. Why the sudden change of mind, if I may ask? I haven't even told you the whereabouts or time of it and you have already declined after accepting?! So, in fairness, like a pastor I know says, why or what has changed ur mind? (I doubt whether you'll answer this....)"
Ms Scorpio replied (10 min later): "ok. i just needed to make sure u know since i told u that i would attend if it is in NY."
What?! Hunh/...lol At this point, I was so flabbergasted by her responses, that I became bent on getting at least one* direct answer from Ms. Scorpio, specifically as to why she changed her heart (seemingly) so suddenly. So I replied:
"Ok but is there a particular reason why now you've decided to change your mind? You could've actually told me this quite some time ago. so why now the 'change of heart'? If you can answer this, I'll rest my case forever.
I just feel like for you to say Yea one moment then Nay another moment is quite unfair to this infantryman over here.
I'm actually sad now; since you refuse to provide or give any explanation why, I am also baffled."
Ms Enigmatic, I mean, Scorpio responded: " i am sorry edmond. u posted recently that u were seeking someone to accompany u to the ball so i am assuming that u did not have me concretely as date for the night. sorry, i did not mean to make u feel sad. i am just uncomfortable going. and i just hope ur recent status is not against me lol. take care edmond. "
"that's good to know.
i am not gonna be able to attend the military ball with you. i'm sorry"
Now, as you could've imagined, this Libra was very much saddened, not only because I was disappointed by her (apparently)* sudden 'change of heart,' but also because NO explanation was given to me for her actions. So naturally, I responded:
"I somewhat figured that. Why the sudden change of mind, if I may ask? I haven't even told you the whereabouts or time of it and you have already declined after accepting?! So, in fairness, like a pastor I know says, why or what has changed ur mind? (I doubt whether you'll answer this....)"
Ms Scorpio replied (10 min later): "ok. i just needed to make sure u know since i told u that i would attend if it is in NY."
What?! Hunh/...lol At this point, I was so flabbergasted by her responses, that I became bent on getting at least one* direct answer from Ms. Scorpio, specifically as to why she changed her heart (seemingly) so suddenly. So I replied:
"Ok but is there a particular reason why now you've decided to change your mind? You could've actually told me this quite some time ago. so why now the 'change of heart'? If you can answer this, I'll rest my case forever.
I just feel like for you to say Yea one moment then Nay another moment is quite unfair to this infantryman over here.
I'm actually sad now; since you refuse to provide or give any explanation why, I am also baffled."
Ms Enigmatic, I mean, Scorpio responded: " i am sorry edmond. u posted recently that u were seeking someone to accompany u to the ball so i am assuming that u did not have me concretely as date for the night. sorry, i did not mean to make u feel sad. i am just uncomfortable going. and i just hope ur recent status is not against me lol. take care edmond. "
"u posted recently that u were seeking someone to accompany u to the ball so i am assuming that u did not have me concretely as date for the night."
When I was asking her for a 'confirmation' of her date, she was mum/silent on it; but now that she decided* to 'fortuitously' notice my status, expressing a legitimate concern of mine, she decided to "assume" that I did not have her "concretely as a date for the night." Go figure.
Now If this is NOT a case of "OMG: I've just gotten caught revealing what I truly feel for him, but I am not going to EVER admit this to anyone, including myself, despite it's obviousness to him", then I don't know what else to call it...
When I was asking her for a 'confirmation' of her date, she was mum/silent on it; but now that she decided* to 'fortuitously' notice my status, expressing a legitimate concern of mine, she decided to "assume" that I did not have her "concretely as a date for the night." Go figure.
Now If this is NOT a case of "OMG: I've just gotten caught revealing what I truly feel for him, but I am not going to EVER admit this to anyone, including myself, despite it's obviousness to him", then I don't know what else to call it...
Posted by LovelyScorp
I'm sorry for your dilemna but you may have squashed it.
After reading, your attempt to try to get a concrete answer FROM her may have seemed like game playing. Put yourself in her shoes for a moment -
1. You haven't been able to commit to the location (totally not your fault)
2. You posted on your status that you feel you are basically forced to attend this affair to get a 4 day leave
She may feel you are "playing the field" to get the best date and the off time. The uncommitted location combined with the status is sort of telling her that you are just settling for her as your date. I know that is not the case but if I were to read into that I would of probably came to the same conclusion.
Time for some damage control. (Get rid of that status, first of all)
If I'd asked you whether you knew of any beautiful ladies who would be willing to attend a military ball with me, and in return, you VOLUNTEERED (unprompted by myself) yourself to attend this same ball with me - if it were in your State; and if over a period over several months, I had twice asked you for a confirmation as to whether you were still willing to attend this same ball with me, and you responded with silence each time, what would be the most reasonable thing for me to conclude at the moment? It would, arguably, be that you appear to be vacillating.
Thus, naturally, I would try to secure a date elsewhere, especially given the peculiar circumstances, that I might 'make things whole' again.
Putting myself in her shoes, if I sincerely were concerned that ewashington7000 'were playing the field' to get the best date and the off time, even after reading a post of his, why would I NOT have written, or contacted, him first, instead, for clarity or understanding of the meaning behind his post, even before making any changes to the original plan? Moreover, would my first* response to his inquiries (transpiring of several months) as to wether he were actually still attending the ball with me occur right after I (apparently) read his post regarding his dilemma? Something seems 'wishy-washy' about Ms. Scorpio to me.
I don't know about you but a few things come to my mind: i.e., mind games, jealousy, expecting another to read minds, etc - all, apparently, common practices of many Scorpio women. Just saying...
All water signs, unfortunately expect our partners to be mind readers. It's not fair, and sometimes we're not even aware we're doing it.
Posted by LovelyScorp
If she feels that she is your last resort or only a reason for you to get a 4 day leave she will feel you are using her.
*Poof*...trust gone.
We are not anyone's wingman...lol.
You choose us and only us, if we were second choice....you will never get a second chance!!
Excellent point. 'Just one small problem. This military ball outing is supposed to be a 'platonic' affair. So, given the past where I have been the (only) one whom has shown interest in her forwardly (even though I have explicitly stated to her that I neither expect any reciprocal feelings from her nor do I anticipate any thing to transpire from me revealing my feelings for her, but rather that I've just wanted to be honest with her), and that she has been clearly mum on her feelings or interest for me (at least explicitly), it ought not to matter whether she is actually a wing man - by definition of platonic. (In actuality, she isn't a wingman.)
In other words, my point is, if she claims to have no feelings for me romantically, and neither officially reacts to my romantic feelings for her, how does she looking claiming 'exclusivity' with me on a platonic outing? We are not even dating!...lol
Posted by Let*It*Be
"You choose us and only us, if we were second choice....you will never get a second chance!!"
At the very least, don't let us know we were second choice..however, we will still figure out later if we were second choice depending on the vibes we feel from you. 😉
.... I've told her that if she does not attend the ball with me, I am not going. I've shared with her my opinion that all of my comrades would've been jealous to see her around my arms; for she would've been the most beautiful lady there. Now, when I'd her approached about this initially, she knew that I was in need of a date. So she volunteered herself; but afterwards, chose to NOT acknowledge with she was going.
So, am I supposed to stop reality from existing merely to insure that she always feels she's first choice? How is this not schizophrenic?
Posted by Beetleguese
You needed to claim her, you didn't. We all check our options, but once you stir the interest to more than casual flirting you'd best quash any concerns she may have about her position in your life. Being in the #1 slot isn't even good enough with a scorp for sure...better not be any other slots available as back up otherwise she'll still feel like an option and we don't do options at all.
At this point she's likely to go silent, I would try stating exactly what you did mean in straightforward fashion and that your miscommunication was just that. If she answers at all she's still interested, even if it's not what you want to hear. If she doesn't, I wouldn't keep on contacting her, it'll look like weakness and that's not attractive to a scorp. She may contact you after she feels she's made her point or never again, just the way it goes sometimes man.
Just a guy's point of view, the women will have better advice I'm sure as they already have posted....why am I am I even blabbing about it? hahah Good luck....remember, don't look desperate...just sincere 🙂
I appreciate your wisdom. I've actually done as you have suggested, clarifying my actions with her right after her last response. (In fact, in hindsight, she probably anticipated my need to clarify myself; because she even asked me to 'elaborate.' Real clever.) So I did and ended my long explanation with "Peace." About few hours later, she responded with "Peace."
I'm not sure whether I ought to be afraid, flattered or in love... but my scales have been trying to weigh this carefully. Crazy woman....lol Thanks...
Posted by LovelyScorp
"I don't know about you but a few things come to my mind: i.e., mind games, jealousy, expecting another to read minds, etc - all, apparently, common practices of many Scorpio women. Just saying..."
You are exactly right. You have to be as straight forward as humanly possible, no pussyfooting around.
Almost brutal, for lack of a better word.
If we can't see clearly where you stand we will resort to mind games, jealousy, expecting you to read our minds, etc...just saying
😉 Being as honest as I can be.
Thank-you for your honesty.
She did seem to indirectly refer to her uncertainty of my feelings for her, even though I had explicitly stated them, by saying this: "You had told me before that u liked me (?) and i did not answer cause u did not ask for a response to that. then u say that my silence makes u upset."
(Note her usage of the kute "(?)")
She seems to be skillful at using (dare I say 'manipulating') my very own words to buttress her argument.
But I have been straight forward with her. I've just haven't stated anything explicitly with her like "I desire a relationship with you," as I prefer to learn more about her first. Also, I'm a rather blunt individual, but it seems like my bluntness tends to startle her.
"Now I love solving intricate puzzles, but Ms. Beautiful Scorpio is a paradox. But thank God that paradoxes only 'appear' to be unsolvable but not actually are unsolvable."
Posted by Sea Siren
All water signs, unfortunately expect our partners to be mind readers. It's not fair, and sometimes we're not even aware we're doing it.
I agree. I think that this is an admixture of her both consciously and unconsciously expecting me to read her mind. But I've noticed something. It seems like water signs are often highly symbolic in their communications, in that they often express themselves (e.g., their intents) via gesticulations, movements, pictures, or any other type of symbolic gesture. In light of this, I know for a fact that she has been communicating with me in such a way....If she only knew, but my Libran capacities to communicate seems to be failing me....
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i agree. This 'tension' is creates passion: something allures me. You may want to commercially consider selectively renting some of your instincts because they appear to be golden. Thanks.
I wasn't aware that Scorpio women are sometimes this sensitive, even jealous. My intuition seems to be telling me that she is now hurting (or depressed), perhaps even brooding over this. (Perhaps I'm mistaken.) 'Seems like that carapace that she appears to be wearing/donning so well also serves as a window into her soul. 'Kinda wish that I were comforting here right now... But what more can a non-mindreader Libra do?
Posted by LovelyScorp
sounds as though she may be. is there a way to speak with her over the phone? Hearing your voice may help the situation a little bit.
It's ironic that you say this because I've recently told her that I will like to speak to her after I redeploy to the States.
So, I'm in Iraq waiting to redeploy and she's in NY being Scorpio; but there is a way to speak to her.
However, unless she is willing to be 'captured,' I'm pretty sure that she won't 'allow' herself to speak to me over the phone - yet. Not strong enough to resists yet perhaps...lol Thanks
Posted by LovelyScorp
I would be willing to bet that she would welcome your call. If anything, you can hear by the tone of her voice where you stand.
The tone of her voice and the way she forms her words are so important to really listen to. If you listen to that I imagine you will just know.
You've got an excellent point. It's all part of her symbolic language. But I have not actually called her since we've been back in contact with one another; and I've never even asked for her number, lest she thinks I'm 'one track-minded' or too agressive. Perhaps I'm over thinking/analyzing on my part; but I am still desirous to placate her noe, even with some (sincere) Libran graces...lol Don't want her brooding for too long: she may become non-crazy.
Posted by Beetleguese
Not aggressive enough, not asking for the digits, just needed to be a little slick about it so that she could escape answering without feeling awkward if she wasn't ready. Trust me, she wanted you to ask 🙂
Interesting....Obviously, telepathy is not my strong point. She'd told me that I "was too intense for her" in her response last Friday because I was trying to determine why she'd change her mind, even by asking her. (But, according to her, she is allowed to aks me anything - at liberty)
I'm considering calling her sometime after I redeploy back to the States. (19 days) I've told her already that I will like to speak to her but she is still mum on this - as it seems. (Who figured?)
Posted by LovelyScorp
I agree, not aggressive enough. It's okay to be assertive with a scorp, we kind of like it. We do not do passive, it's annoying and hard to follow.
In hindsight, although I may be annoying, I assure you that I have been by no means passive - by my standards of course. (But I recognize that my standards are not the weightier factor here) Perhaps a little tactful with a little 't' on the top (lol)...but not passive though.
But I have been quite passionate with her. She's seen me online with folk passionately debating philosophy or theology (or something else); and she even has even participated in some of those debates. In fact, she and I have even debated one another online, having polar opposite views of each other; so, I'm certain she's seen this passion within me.
(I'm tacitly equating passion with agression. I may be mistaken for this.)
Posted by Kisses
i know a Libra dude with a Scorp girl for a while now -- well...at least she thinks they're together
he has Pisces moon and Scorp venus btw if that helps idk
This perhaps is the sweetest thing that you have said to me so far. I'm krying..lol It does help. Thanks...lol
Posted by seavixen2
Watersigns rule..best learn to hang!
whooooooohooooo
Water signs rule what? Water? lol...Remember: Libra is a cardinal sign: the leader.
But I will not only hang, but I will climb up until I reach the top; gather the rope up; put her on my back; burn the rope; and then drive on....
Posted by Beetleguese
Lead with your heart man, don't rationalize everything so much. I know it's just your way of communicating but passion is raw and not definable with logic🙂
I would agree with you here but as you are aware, I am a Libra - an air sign - which seems to explain why I tend rationalize everything. Thus, I tend to lead with my head (no pun). I tend to be, however, a passionate individual as well: it's just that I am currently 6000 miles from the closest US shores in a combat zone,technically in combat; so it seems rather hard for me to express my passion, even by leading with my heart,to her from so far away.
How does one actually lead with one's heart? By impulse? i am not sure.
Posted by LovelyScorp
Off Topic - 😢 Stay safe!!!
"But I will not only hang, but I will climb up until I reach the top; gather the rope up; put her on my back; burn the rope; and then drive on...."
You are in for a tough journey, my friend. Make sure you are "in" for the long haul because I don't want you to visit us later with this comment -
But I will not only hang, but I will climb up until I reach the top; gather the rope up; throw her over the cliff; and then drive off....
Off Topic - It's never Off Topic to wish anyone well. Thank-you ! (lol)
Are you suggesting that Scorpios have innate ability to drive persons crazy?
Posted by Beetleguese
You speak without thinking, that's how you lead from the heart. The distance is not a problem in communicating these matters, I could probably try to go into a more detailed response but that would fuel your critical thinking side. I'm not saying that you need to change who you are, just that your need for order and control is impeding your pursuit of this woman, imo.
Try reading some love letters or poetry to learn about leading with the heart.
Again, those instincts of yours are golden. Before I've even read these replies, I've been considering actually writing a song or poem - that I may express myself accordingly. I'd normally do this through music. (I actually produce/record music professionally, and I love reading/writing poetry. It kinda balances my intellectual side.)
I was considering an apologetic poem; but I'd rejected that notion for a romantic one. I've got a Scorpio?Crazy idea/plan*! : )
Thanks
Posted by ewashington7000
1. What, precisely, are some of the manners, or behaviors, that you demonstrate when you do NOT have interest in a male courter; or more perspicuously, how do you typically tell a male that you have NO interest in him, particularly if he has already laid his feeling out bare for you?
2. Whenever any of you are interested in a male courter, are you forward or not forward with your feelings for him?
From my experience in watching my friends and
then hearing what they say after certain events
1.
a)
Typically they enjoy the interest from a shy guy
and will talk to him BRIEFLY and then slip away.
Of course a shy-guy will bore them to death and
never make them feel SAFE ..they need a STRONG.
But they will masturbate thinking about him if
he is good looking, if they know he's interested.
And typically they can read the interest well.
IF THEY CAN'T "READ IT", THEY WILL "CAUSE IT".
1.
b)
From someone who is not shy and not good-looking
and comes off like an idiot far below their
standards, they will avoid them like the plague.
They will be cold. Freezing. And of course that
will make the clue-less guy chase harder and
I think they'd be better off showing up at his
door in a bridal gown, proclaiming their love
and intention to get married and then COMPLAIN
about everything - that would get rid of him.
2. Scorpio women are not courted. YOU are,
if you are lucky. Just because you are the one
paying and doing the asking out does not mean
she is not in control.
Unfortunately they often let really great guys
get away because they were not wild enough to
break down their door.
Of course, there is a lot of that going around,
eh, SeaVixen2? Hindsight is 20/20
@ scorpiopics
I confirm the part about causing interest. But what is the case for someone whom is a clueless guy, whom is not shy or good-looking? According to your analysis, this description seems to best represent me.
Regarding courting, I am not sure how I ought to classify my situation. I mean, I am not use to pursuing a lady, let alone a Scorpio lady, even though I'm humble and confident enough to do so if necessary; because, for various peculiar reasons, it's usually seems to be the other way around. And I am not sure why...lol
Thanks
I confirm the part about causing interest. But what is the case for someone whom is a clueless guy, whom is not shy or good-looking? According to your analysis, this description seems to best represent me.
Regarding courting, I am not sure how I ought to classify my situation. I mean, I am not use to pursuing a lady, let alone a Scorpio lady, even though I'm humble and confident enough to do so if necessary; because, for various peculiar reasons, it's usually seems to be the other way around. And I am not sure why...lol
Thanks
And what's with all of these secret, but not so secret, reverse psychologies? Surely they are tests; but how many times does one need to test a certain subject (person)? When exposed, why feign ignorance or pretend as though the exposer is the one whom is out of character? Is this a Scorpio thang?
Posted by BeetleguesePosted by ewashington7000
And what's with all of these secret, but not so secret, reverse psychologies? Surely they are tests; but how many times does one need to test a certain subject (person)? When exposed, why feign ignorance or pretend as though the exposer is the one whom is out of character? Is this a Scorpio thang?
It's really just another form of insecurity when it comes right down to it, assurances are needed because as much as we may want to trust you, we've seen too many flakes and yeah sometimes we make the wrong people pay for other's mistakes.
It takes a lot of introspect to drop the insecure testing games and instead just keep an eye peeled while going with the flow. The key, for me anyway was to figure out that whatever I might lose if I'm betrayed isn't going to kill me, it just makes me human, we all get burned off and on throughout life.
I don't think that a typically traited scorp will fully trust until in love, so you've got a ways to go yet. As we discussed earlier, this is the ride you're getting on, it's why she sparks your interest, it's why you're still here asking and searching. I'd ask if you're sure you want in, but you're here...🙂click to expand
I'm not only here but I've even written a poem to her, even as an artistic expression. I would post the poem here but I do not understand the DXP decorum of predatory arthropod animals of the order Scorpiones.
Posted by Tahlia
this guy is killing me
It was a joke. I didn't mean to be causing the death of you....lol
Posted by Tahlia
yeah that was my sadistic side coming out
or perhaps your masochistic side as well 🙂
Posted by ewashington7000
And what's with all of these secret, but not so secret, reverse psychologies? Surely they are tests; but how many times does one need to test a certain subject (person)? When exposed, why feign ignorance or pretend as though the exposer is the one whom is out of character? Is this a Scorpio thang?
It is our nature ...until we discover who is master.
Posted by ewashington7000
@ scorpiopics
I confirm the part about causing interest. But what is the case for someone whom is a clueless guy, whom is not shy or good-looking? According to your analysis, this description seems to best represent me.
Regarding courting, I am not sure how I ought to classify my situation. I mean, I am not use to pursuing a lady, let alone a Scorpio lady, even though I'm humble and confident enough to do so if necessary; because, for various peculiar reasons, it's usually seems to be the other way around. And I am not sure why...lol
Thanks
@ scorpiopics
YOU: what is the case for someone whom is a clueless guy, whom is not shy or good-looking?
ME: I am comfortable enough with my sexuality to say that you are a good-looking guy
and I'm a white guy at that. You are not clueless, you are finding answers.
Shy? I don't know. But "a clueless guy, whom is not shy or good-looking"
-if they can get him to look at their chest even once, they will be her drones
and will carry out her mundane tasks for her.
YOU: Regarding courting, I am not sure how I ought to classify my situation. I mean, I am not use to pursuing a lady, let alone a Scorpio lady, even though I'm humble and confident enough to do so if necessary; because, for various peculiar reasons, it's usually seems to be the other way around. And I am not sure why...lol
ME: See above.
Of course, if you are not pursuing her...and you want her in bed again ...don't start.
(That's if you got her there already ...if not ..."see above".)
Posted by scorpiopicsPosted by ewashington7000
And what's with all of these secret, but not so secret, reverse psychologies? Surely they are tests; but how many times does one need to test a certain subject (person)? When exposed, why feign ignorance or pretend as though the exposer is the one whom is out of character? Is this a Scorpio thang?
It is our nature ...until we discover who is master.click to expand
I'd figure that...interesting...
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