Venus in Scorpio + Mercury in Scorpio advice!!

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Hey guys I'd like some advice here.
I have been dating a guy with these placements. The thing here is that I have these placements too :O we have been dating and messaging from a month now. And it has been SUPER INTENSE thing. Personally didn't know the real power of this energy ( especially when there's romance). The problem is that we are starting to be possessive over the other and our stubbornness is starting to show : / Well I'd like to know what you think and what do you recommend to benefit from this energy when dating. I'll appreciate anything you have to say.
Btw he's a Sag I'm a Scorpio!
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Posted by EnochtheWise
I know a lot of people with this placement relationships are difficult between them. Its been said that, in theory, only another Venus in Scorpio can really give a Venus in Scorpio the kind of unwavering devotion and loyalty that they give and expect from others. The problem is though that, in practice, a lot of the extreme strategizing, defensive walls that are in place, scrutinizing, testing, and distrust that goes on with these folks, creates a situation where you get a stalemate when two of them get together. Who is going to be vulnerable? Who is going to put themselves out there first in certain areas, etc.? I have two friends going through this right now.
Yes. Exactly. I had never been involved romantically with someone with these placements. I thought it would be easier to understand this type of energy (because I carry it) however it there have been a hell out of difficulties regarding power roles, vulnerability, defensiveness. kinda wonder how is gonna play out for us once the passion is gone..
Do you have any advice for me from seeing your friends?
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Posted by EnochtheWise
I know a lot of people with this placement relationships are difficult between them. Its been said that, in theory, only another Venus in Scorpio can really give a Venus in Scorpio the kind of unwavering devotion and loyalty that they give and expect from others. The problem is though that, in practice, a lot of the extreme strategizing, defensive walls that are in place, scrutinizing, testing, and distrust that goes on with these folks, creates a situation where you get a stalemate when two of them get together. Who is going to be vulnerable? Who is going to put themselves out there first in certain areas, etc.? I have two friends going through this right now.
In theory. :/

Doesn't sound like much fun, tbh.

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Posted by EnochtheWise
I know a lot of people with this placement relationships are difficult between them. Its been said that, in theory, only another Venus in Scorpio can really give a Venus in Scorpio the kind of unwavering devotion and loyalty that they give and expect from others. The problem is though that, in practice, a lot of the extreme strategizing, defensive walls that are in place, scrutinizing, testing, and distrust that goes on with these folks, creates a situation where you get a stalemate when two of them get together. Who is going to be vulnerable? Who is going to put themselves out there first in certain areas, etc.? I have two friends going through this right now.
Yes. Exactly. I had never been involved romantically with someone with these placements. I thought it would be easier to understand this type of energy (because I carry it) however it there have been a hell out of difficulties regarding power roles, vulnerability, defensiveness. kinda wonder how is gonna play out for us once the passion is gone..
Do you have any advice for me from seeing your friends?
You have to have regular sit downs where you talk about vulnerability and subtle little sensitivity issues that caused one or the other to throw up the shields. You have to continually reaffirm that the possessiveness is understood, and reciprocated. The difficulty is the strategizing, hiding, power-play, etc. At the root of that is the distrust and insecurity of course. The key to overcome that is the understanding that you both are mutually as loyal to, and possessive of, one another. If you have a social circle, you will probably need to retreat from that from time to time and just really indulge in one another with singular focus to cement that. It should all get better with time as you become more embedded with one another. If there's a lack of communication though, and the distrust and insecurities build, and either goes into retreat mode rather than dealing quickly, things will of course get worse.

You will have to lead the way as a Sag dealing with this energy is on nowhere near as solid ground as a Scorpio. But you will have to do it with subtlety because there's a heavy competitive component and much greater insecurity thrown into the mix in a Sag who has this placement. The man like to get their acknowledgment, and feel like they are the key player, leader, greatest thing since sliced bread, etc.
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Wow this is a great piece of advice. Thank you so much. It totally makes sense. I do believe when this energy is well grounded has the capacity of being a truly reformative and great experience for the ones
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Posted by EnochtheWise
I know a lot of people with this placement relationships are difficult between them. Its been said that, in theory, only another Venus in Scorpio can really give a Venus in Scorpio the kind of unwavering devotion and loyalty that they give and expect from others. The problem is though that, in practice, a lot of the extreme strategizing, defensive walls that are in place, scrutinizing, testing, and distrust that goes on with these folks, creates a situation where you get a stalemate when two of them get together. Who is going to be vulnerable? Who is going to put themselves out there first in certain areas, etc.? I have two friends going through this right now.
In theory. :/

Doesn't sound like much fun, tbh.
Fun is not on the agenda. lol.
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Haha it may be so. I may be young but I guess I have never feel more sexually connected to any other energy than this one :o
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Posted by Ellycakes
Venus in Scorpio tempers as it gets older I think.

You both have a touch of mutable energy too, him a mutable sun and your moon so that'll help.

The biggest problem I ran into is that sometimes the connection with another Venus in scorp is so easy and unspoken it makes you lazy or take for granted your similarities. Then problems fester because each person becomes wrapped up in their own feelings.

Best thing any Venus in Scorpio should learn is just how to not fester period. If you hold yourself accountable for being fair then it's less work the other must take on.
Ok! So communication, sincerity, and mindfulness are key points when working with this energy?

Thanks!