A taurus sun male... in his late 20s

tells me, "Women make men suffer..." and, "it's 0.01% that women actually suffer more than men."

what ...the—?



is this true for you Taurus males? (actually for ALL men, not just taurus) lol of course...

it is HIS observation.

so i looked it up...

https://thoughtcatalog.com/joshua-snodin/2014/02/5-reasons-men-suffer-lovesickness-more-than-women/



https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/columnists/fionola-meredith/women-dont-make-men-suffer-macho-society-does-28752338.html



https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070602101117AAoi3x3&guccounter=1

Posted by DeadInside

leave us alones

😆

Posted by Antiochus

Points 4. and 5. of the first link are most likely the main problems.

Men need their own emancipation from the "manly" stereotypes of the last 100 years or so. This would require female cooperation just the same way female emancipation required support from the male counterpart. We don't need another clash of genders and more divide.

Looking at the people around my age and those younger than me however I have to say that I'm quite optimistic that this shift will happen without much drama.

I think we are already good at that. So many of us play teamsports. I think we get critcized too much for being raw and aggressive. We gotta assert ourselves here.

And we need to find a way to communicate about our problems in a nonfemine way. Many man only open up to woman and that is the real reason for love sickness because we lost the person we lean for emotional support.

Posted by Antiochus

Posted by Parkourler

Posted by Antiochus

Points 4. and 5. of the first link are most likely the main problems.

Men need their own emancipation from the "manly" stereotypes of the last 100 years or so. This would require female cooperation just the same way female emancipation required support from the male counterpart. We don't need another clash of genders and more divide.

Looking at the people around my age and those younger than me however I have to say that I'm quite optimistic that this shift will happen without much drama.

I think we are already good at that. So many of us play teamsports. I think we get critcized too much for being raw and aggressive. We gotta assert ourselves here.

And we need to find a way to communicate about our problems in a nonfemine way. Many man only open up to woman and that is the real reason for love sickness because we lost the person we lean for emotional support.

Men have played team-sport for ages. I don't think this qualifies as an indicator.

I agree partially with the problem of rawness and aggression. At the moment, at least in german schools, there is a severe lack of theme and topics that fit the current male identity while there is an overwhelming abundance of themes that cater or fit the current female identity. Themes of conflict are often ignored or taught/labeled as bad instead of being adressed in a heatlhy way. On the other hand however men still struggle with being themselves with all their flaws, fears and inabilities which the results in a perveted overly aggressive form of the current "male". Those cases are and should be criticised.

What would be unfeminine way of communication for you? Talking is as much a male thins as it is a female thing. Looking at history it might even more of a male thing.

The fact that females are often the only emotional support for men is a severe problem indeed. For one it creates a dependency that most women find unattractive and might fuel an end of the relationship. On the other hand it limits the males severely in their emotional growth aka they are often stuck in the role of a son at times while trying to act like a father. Then there is the case that many women, at the moment, aren't open to those male conflicts, struggles and problems. Often the reply to those is that the man should man up which in turn further fuels the unhealthy idea of manliness that is still extremely dependent.

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Addendum:

Men as whole and how they interact with each other has to change as well. We should encourage each other more to express ourselves instead of belittling each other whenever one speaks about his emotions. We should also hug each other more often as that only can improve things a lot.

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We belittle each other in a playful way. I would call it bantering. Thats how we bond. I think that form of communicating is musunderstood and scoffed at by woman.

Man are supposed to be effective and strong. We learn that in team sports. We learn to compete to be valuable. Its not just cooperating. So i do think it qualifies as an indicator.

I think we get shamed a lot for our raw and aggressive behaviors. But they serve a purpose and are misunderstood. A male emancipation involves partly embracing manhood firmly rejecting notions to be fluffier and find a way to be vulnerable without adopting female traits and atill feel good about ourselves

I was in a waldorfschool so i can attest for lack of male themes infact i got shunned for loving metallica and martial arts.