Have I lost my Taurus man?

I had been dating a Taurus man for 2 month, everything was going great. Last week we were hanging out and talking about trips we would like to go to together, restaurants, etc. Then we were in bed and he got frustrated at me because I was to tired to have sex. He huffed and wanted to leave, I asked him to stay and told him being to tired had nothing to do with him. It didn’t I was almost unconscious and this behaviour was a real turn off. He continued to huff and I told him if he continued to act this way he could lose my number. He stayed and in the morning I thought we worked it out, but then later that day he texted to say he was hurt that I would say “lose my number” and that he needed space. I agreed that space would be good. Then he called me 2 hrs later, I was not available to take the call, I texted back saying if he really needed to talk I was happy to but space is good. He told me he was really freaked out, likes me loads but needs space. I again agreed. Next day he text and calls me just to say hi. Then the following day I text to say hi and he tells me he needs space. Ok, I gave him a week of no contact. I contacted him to check in he replied right away, but he is still hurt that I told him to lose my number and that he still needs time, I asked what the parameters were ie more space? How much? Did he want me to leave him alone all together? Wait for him to reach out to me next time? He told me to slow down. I am also having surgery next week and he was my person to help me. We had a quick chat and he told me he needs time to work on him self and we should keep in contact and he will come visit me after surgery. Good.

Later I called to tell him how I felt; that I liked him and I want to be with him and that this little obstacle was manageable and I hoped we could work it out together. He said he still needed time. Ok great. He texted me right after to say sorry I need soul searching time. I get it and I am happy he answer the phone and heard me. I am not sad, I am happy I got to tell him how I felt. I guess I am just wondering if I have blown it by making myself so available to him?

Should have given head..selfish

He’s hurt you said to loose his number.

Your hurt he made you feel like your just a hole to fill.

But notice rn your the one being punished. Totes makes sense 🙄

Wait one minute...

Does he know you wanted him to help you with your surgery? If so...

This little boy knows you're about to have surgery and he is putting his unwet penis and ego loss ahead of your medical needs.

Think on that.

Think on that behavior.

He KNOWS you're about to have surgery and doesnt give one hoot about it. He is more interested in making you feel bad and guilty.

You don't owe him sex. PERIOD

There was also a good reason you told him to lose your number.

He probably said something real reckless.

Taurus men huff and puff. Especially when they cant get they penis wet. When they cant be fulfilled.

Let him be a child.

You go be grown.

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Posted by LadyNeptune

He’s hurt you said to loose his number.

Your hurt he made you feel like your just a hole to fill.

But notice rn your the one being punished. Totes makes sense 🙄

Yup exactly

They punish you

Something similar occurred to me they whine when they don’t get their way

Call them on it n of done wrong In Their eye the are unforgiven.

Thank you for a reminder of things to be

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Yeah punish is the right word. Notice how he has the op feeling like she’s in the wrong and scrambling for his forgiveness. When really he should be apologizing for acting like a dickhead.

All this after only 2 months. Just think, this is the beginning and he’s on his best behavior. What does his worst look like 😬

Thanks for saying all of these things. Sometimes when you are in it you are wear rose coloured glasses and don’t see the red flag.

I agree with the posts above. Initially, you did not like his behaviour, and quite rightly too. You told him directly he could huff and puff but he'd lose your number because you were not putting up with his poor behaviour. Then suddenly, he started being a dick and pretended he needed space but would then contact you and he's also backed out of helping you with surgery/recovery. Suddenly, he's made it feel like everything is your fault.

What he should have done was stayed the night with you, enjoyed the cuddles, and hey, maybe something might have happened in the morning or maybe you'd both just enjoy being together. He chose the wrong option.

I think he knows his behaviour was poor and now he's oversensitive. Unless he comes back and deals with this properly then there's no hope. You're only two months in. He's showing you how things will be in the future. It doesn't look promising.

u should kno dat he aint the one for you cuz my harem of hoes still put out even if they say their tired lmao

ok, i'm playing devil's advocate here because i know this will be an unpopular opinion.

going to say it anyway.

i don't think the problem was that you were too available, it was that you weren't available enough.

yes, he shouldn't have behaved like a child when you were too tired to have sex but i think you threw him for a loop when you said you weren't into it.

while you explained that it wasn't about him, he probably felt it was. taurus give and receive love through touch. that you had turned him down might have signalled to him that you were cooling off him.

normally this wouldn't be a problem but after two months he is still feeling insecure and unsure about you.

when you said you can lose my number, you confirmed to him that you are only a short step away from cutting him out of your life.

taurus are sensitive (infuriatingly so sometimes). this means they are quick to be hurt but the positive side to the trait is they have strong, deep and often, silent feelings towards their partners.

he might have felt that based on your behaviour to turn the tables on him that you were (and are) too risky to invest his feelings.

what to do now? well, you told him you liked him and want to work it out. i think if you really do like him then try to reassure him that you are worth the chance.

yes, these traits aren't attractive. it's up to you whether or not, it's worth the price of admission for you and if you are able to manage it.

we don't know what his history is, when his last relationship was or how it ended. he could be still smarting from that or he could be a manchild. only you can really see what is more likely.

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ok, i'm playing devil's advocate here because i know this will be an unpopular opinion.

going to say it anyway.

i don't think the problem was that you were too available, it was that you weren't available enough.

yes, he shouldn't have behaved like a child when you were too tired to have sex but i think you threw him for a loop when you said you weren't into it.

while you explained that it wasn't about him, he probably felt it was. taurus give and receive love through touch. that you had turned him down might have signalled to him that you were cooling off him.

normally this wouldn't be a problem but after two months he is still feeling insecure and unsure about you.

when you said you can lose my number, you confirmed to him that you are only a short step away from cutting him out of your life.

taurus are sensitive (infuriatingly so sometimes). this means they are quick to be hurt but the positive side to the trait is they have strong, deep and often, silent feelings towards their partners.

he might have felt that based on your behaviour to turn the tables on him that you were (and are) too risky to invest his feelings.

what to do now? well, you told him you liked him and want to work it out. i think if you really do like him then try to reassure him that you are worth the chance.

yes, these traits aren't attractive. it's up to you whether or not, it's worth the price of admission for you and if you are able to manage it.

we don't know what his history is, when his last relationship was or how it ended. he could be still smarting from that or he could be a manchild. only you can really see what is more likely.

How do you reassure a hurt bull?

I also feel like his behaviour is a bit of a pattern, he got jealous 2 weeks in to our relationship, when I went to a show with a male friend. I had made those plans before I even met him. He pushed me away and when I called him on it he yelled at me and demanded space, then called me right away.

I am trying to respect his wishes but he is not giving me any boundaries to work with. I am really at a lose of ‘how to reassure him’.

Just stick to the facts. He hasn’t got a pair of balls.

Its a fair point from Jeane and I would agree he may well be sensitive (his history is not available) and didn't handle his perceived physical rejection well.

My Taurus had himself a couple of sex related paddies during the first year of our relationship. His issues were in his own head. He'd have some sort of really irritating meltdown over fuck knows what which would ruin the moment unnecessarily. Sometimes I'd give him the softer approach and other times I'd give him the stern approach which did tell him if he did not like something then he was free to leave. It's not as harsh as it sounds and it would take a while to get to this stage. He rarely has any type of paddies now but when he does I tend to keep him in check in one way or another.

It sounds like OP didn't go straight to the 'lose my number' bit. I've cut and pasted below:

***Then we were in bed and he got frustrated at me because I was to tired to have sex.

Two months in and he's getting frustrated about her not putting out. Did he mistake her for a tap or something? Just turn it on whenever he wants. Does he feel he has some jurisdiction over her body? I'm not being all feminist here but she was too tired. It happens.

***He huffed and wanted to leave,

That's possibly a turn off and as he did not get the sex he wanted he just wanted to fuck off. Nice boyfriend.

***I asked him to stay and told him being to tired had nothing to do with him. It didn’t I was almost unconscious and this behaviour was a real turn off.

She reiterated her reasons because explaining these things once clearly is not sufficient for him. She wanted him to stay so it is not 'him'.

***He continued to huff

Really? Who has time and energy to deal with your new boyfriend of two months

whinging because he couldn't get his dick in. He'd been told twice. What more does it take?

***and I told him if he continued to act this way he could lose my number.

She probably got fucked off. Well she was tired and probably ran out of patience justifying why she did not want to explain the use of her own body.

***He stayed

So he didn't actually leave as he had threatened to do so.

***and in the morning I thought we worked it out,

Assume they had a conversation of some sort and parted on what she thought were good terms.

***but then later that day he texted to say he was hurt that I would say “lose my number” and that he needed space.

Perhaps things were not as sorted as he thought they were but then he needed to say that he'd like to discuss it further later as he still has some concerns. Then he cowardly said he needed 'space'. He needs space because what? He couldn't put his dick in. Yawn. From then on he just played attention games saying he needed space but then text OP but then went back to wanting space and it just went to shit then.

I think if I were OP I'd look at the whole picture. Is there enough here with this person to try and preserve this? Do you want to? Are you happy with how he chooses to handle things? He sounds a little manipulative whereas OP seems more straightforward. Not sure if he has any Cancer or Leo in there and she has some air placements. Charts would be interesting to see!

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Posted by jeane

ok, i'm playing devil's advocate here because i know this will be an unpopular opinion.

going to say it anyway.

i don't think the problem was that you were too available, it was that you weren't available enough.

yes, he shouldn't have behaved like a child when you were too tired to have sex but i think you threw him for a loop when you said you weren't into it.

while you explained that it wasn't about him, he probably felt it was. taurus give and receive love through touch. that you had turned him down might have signalled to him that you were cooling off him.

normally this wouldn't be a problem but after two months he is still feeling insecure and unsure about you.

when you said you can lose my number, you confirmed to him that you are only a short step away from cutting him out of your life.

taurus are sensitive (infuriatingly so sometimes). this means they are quick to be hurt but the positive side to the trait is they have strong, deep and often, silent feelings towards their partners.

he might have felt that based on your behaviour to turn the tables on him that you were (and are) too risky to invest his feelings.

what to do now? well, you told him you liked him and want to work it out. i think if you really do like him then try to reassure him that you are worth the chance.

yes, these traits aren't attractive. it's up to you whether or not, it's worth the price of admission for you and if you are able to manage it.

we don't know what his history is, when his last relationship was or how it ended. he could be still smarting from that or he could be a manchild. only you can really see what is more likely.

How do you reassure a hurt bull?

I also feel like his behaviour is a bit of a pattern, he got jealous 2 weeks in to our relationship, when I went to a show with a male friend. I had made those plans before I even met him. He pushed me away and when I called him on it he yelled at me and demanded space, then called me right away.

I am trying to respect his wishes but he is not giving me any boundaries to work with. I am really at a lose of ‘how to reassure him’.

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Uuuggghhhh

That doesn't sound good 🙄

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I think if I were OP I'd look at the whole picture. Is there enough here with this person to try and preserve this? Do you want to? Are you happy with how he chooses to handle things? He sounds a little manipulative whereas OP seems more straightforward. Not sure if he has any Cancer or Leo in there and she has some air placements. Charts would be interesting to see!

yeah i think this is a fair assessment. i know wobbles with my own bull occured a little at the start - not to do with sex but more due to perceived slights and then an inability to deal with the imagined rejection. (cancer mars, what are you going to do?).

like yours, it doesn't happen anymore. i figure settling in to the relationship induces less panic and the need to scurry away.

not sure the space thing is because he couldn't get his dick wet (could be but...*shrug*), i think it's more that he feared he has more feels than she does at this early stage.

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Posted by jeane

ok, i'm playing devil's advocate here because i know this will be an unpopular opinion.

going to say it anyway.

i don't think the problem was that you were too available, it was that you weren't available enough.

yes, he shouldn't have behaved like a child when you were too tired to have sex but i think you threw him for a loop when you said you weren't into it.

while you explained that it wasn't about him, he probably felt it was. taurus give and receive love through touch. that you had turned him down might have signalled to him that you were cooling off him.

normally this wouldn't be a problem but after two months he is still feeling insecure and unsure about you.

when you said you can lose my number, you confirmed to him that you are only a short step away from cutting him out of your life.

taurus are sensitive (infuriatingly so sometimes). this means they are quick to be hurt but the positive side to the trait is they have strong, deep and often, silent feelings towards their partners.

he might have felt that based on your behaviour to turn the tables on him that you were (and are) too risky to invest his feelings.

what to do now? well, you told him you liked him and want to work it out. i think if you really do like him then try to reassure him that you are worth the chance.

yes, these traits aren't attractive. it's up to you whether or not, it's worth the price of admission for you and if you are able to manage it.

we don't know what his history is, when his last relationship was or how it ended. he could be still smarting from that or he could be a manchild. only you can really see what is more likely.

How do you reassure a hurt bull?

I also feel like his behaviour is a bit of a pattern, he got jealous 2 weeks in to our relationship, when I went to a show with a male friend. I had made those plans before I even met him. He pushed me away and when I called him on it he yelled at me and demanded space, then called me right away.

I am trying to respect his wishes but he is not giving me any boundaries to work with. I am really at a lose of ‘how to reassure him’.

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yeah, that sounds like a dick move.

my advice would be to set him straight. tell him that sort of shit just will not fly. reiterate that you do like him but you won't put up with it.

i had to draw my line at the start. i remember my words were "you're great but you're not that great for me to put up with x."

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Posted by AgentP911

I think if I were OP I'd look at the whole picture. Is there enough here with this person to try and preserve this? Do you want to? Are you happy with how he chooses to handle things? He sounds a little manipulative whereas OP seems more straightforward. Not sure if he has any Cancer or Leo in there and she has some air placements. Charts would be interesting to see!

yeah i think this is a fair assessment. i know wobbles with my own bull occured a little at the start - not to do with sex but more due to perceived slights and then an inability to deal with the imagined rejection. (cancer mars, what are you going to do?).

like yours, it doesn't happen anymore. i figure settling in to the relationship induces less panic and the need to scurry away.

not sure the space thing is because he couldn't get his dick wet (could be but...*shrug*), i think it's more that he feared he has more feels than she does at this early stage.

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Well, they are only two months in AND are already in bed together. It's also reasonable to assume that this wasn't their 'first time' together. It's likely, and going with the 'feels' aspect, that jumping in together rather quickly has contributed to a large mesh of shit to deal with during their first two months together.

Add in the recent post OP made regarding him getting jealous within the first two weeks of their relationship. Note she said within the first two weeks of their relationship and not within the first two weeks of dating. Again, things have moved quickly here.

To become openly jealous about prior arrangements before you even knew each other, and to have a paddy citing he needs space etc just rings BIG alarm bells to me.

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Also, Taurus will remember it forever when it comes to like "lose my number" for example and pretty unsure about this relationshipe as it need to think about it unless he got distracted.

But his immaturely will do it even worse.

How old are you guys? was it first time having sex when that happened?

We started having sex right away in our relationship. We are both in our mid 30’s.

He is a Taurus and I am a Leo.

We spent anywhere from 4 to 6 nights a week together. We would almost always have sex, he would almost always shut me down for morning sex. I never pushed it. Sex should be fun for both parties.

I have been having minor health stuff going on since we met and right before this incident I was having issues with my health so I was not at 100% . He knew this. This is also why I have to have surgery next week.

all of the above; yeah, it sounds like it's a relationship about sex - rather than one of caring and understanding

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@jeane a.k.a. The Taurus Whisperer.

she is The Taurus Whisperer - at least the male Bull !

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Posted by Skeleton

Also, Taurus will remember it forever when it comes to like "lose my number" for example and pretty unsure about this relationshipe as it need to think about it unless he got distracted.

But his immaturely will do it even worse.

How old are you guys? was it first time having sex when that happened?

We started having sex right away in our relationship. We are both in our mid 30’s.

He is a Taurus and I am a Leo.

We spent anywhere from 4 to 6 nights a week together. We would almost always have sex, he would almost always shut me down for morning sex. I never pushed it. Sex should be fun for both parties.

I have been having minor health stuff going on since we met and right before this incident I was having issues with my health so I was not at 100% . He knew this. This is also why I have to have surgery next week.

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We started having sex right away in our relationship.

I rest my case, M'lud.

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Posted by Skeleton

Also, Taurus will remember it forever when it comes to like "lose my number" for example and pretty unsure about this relationshipe as it need to think about it unless he got distracted.

But his immaturely will do it even worse.

How old are you guys? was it first time having sex when that happened?

We started having sex right away in our relationship. We are both in our mid 30’s.

He is a Taurus and I am a Leo.

We spent anywhere from 4 to 6 nights a week together. We would almost always have sex, he would almost always shut me down for morning sex. I never pushed it. Sex should be fun for both parties.

I have been having minor health stuff going on since we met and right before this incident I was having issues with my health so I was not at 100% . He knew this. This is also why I have to have surgery next week.

We started having sex right away in our relationship.

I rest my case, M'lud.

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Nothing wrong with having sex right away in a relationship. They are in their 30s and consenting adults...its only an issue when you can't communicate openly about it.

Posted by AriesJo

Just stick to the facts. He hasn’t got a pair of balls.

No balls? Must be more of a steer than a bull

But yeah girl, let this one go and dodge that bullet lol

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Posted by Skeleton

Also, Taurus will remember it forever when it comes to like "lose my number" for example and pretty unsure about this relationshipe as it need to think about it unless he got distracted.

But his immaturely will do it even worse.

How old are you guys? was it first time having sex when that happened?

We started having sex right away in our relationship. We are both in our mid 30’s.

He is a Taurus and I am a Leo.

We spent anywhere from 4 to 6 nights a week together. We would almost always have sex, he would almost always shut me down for morning sex. I never pushed it. Sex should be fun for both parties.

I have been having minor health stuff going on since we met and right before this incident I was having issues with my health so I was not at 100% . He knew this. This is also why I have to have surgery next week.

We started having sex right away in our relationship.

I rest my case, M'lud.

Nothing wrong with having sex right away in a relationship. They are in their 30s and consenting adults...its only an issue when you can't communicate openly about it.

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And it's working out so well for them... 🙄

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Posted by Skeleton

Also, Taurus will remember it forever when it comes to like "lose my number" for example and pretty unsure about this relationshipe as it need to think about it unless he got distracted.

But his immaturely will do it even worse.

How old are you guys? was it first time having sex when that happened?

We started having sex right away in our relationship. We are both in our mid 30’s.

He is a Taurus and I am a Leo.

We spent anywhere from 4 to 6 nights a week together. We would almost always have sex, he would almost always shut me down for morning sex. I never pushed it. Sex should be fun for both parties.

I have been having minor health stuff going on since we met and right before this incident I was having issues with my health so I was not at 100% . He knew this. This is also why I have to have surgery next week.

We started having sex right away in our relationship.

I rest my case, M'lud.

Nothing wrong with having sex right away in a relationship. They are in their 30s and consenting adults...its only an issue when you can't communicate openly about it.

And it's working out so well for them... 🙄

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I mean any fight over sex and miscommunication is a red flag, but I'd say even If they didn't jump into it and this was 5 months down the line the outcome would have been the same and then even more time was invested.

Leo and Taurus just usually doesn't work. Leo is too fiery, I can see there being communication issues and honestly I think it more so has to do with the Taurus immaturity. He's playing games, and doesn't wanna talk about it.

I just don't think how early they had sex together has anything to do with it.

You just sound obtuse and judgy tbh

Hey op... were you actually in a relationship? Or was it just hooking up?

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Posted by Skeleton

Also, Taurus will remember it forever when it comes to like "lose my number" for example and pretty unsure about this relationshipe as it need to think about it unless he got distracted.

But his immaturely will do it even worse.

How old are you guys? was it first time having sex when that happened?

We started having sex right away in our relationship. We are both in our mid 30’s.

He is a Taurus and I am a Leo.

We spent anywhere from 4 to 6 nights a week together. We would almost always have sex, he would almost always shut me down for morning sex. I never pushed it. Sex should be fun for both parties.

I have been having minor health stuff going on since we met and right before this incident I was having issues with my health so I was not at 100% . He knew this. This is also why I have to have surgery next week.

We started having sex right away in our relationship.

I rest my case, M'lud.

Nothing wrong with having sex right away in a relationship. They are in their 30s and consenting adults...its only an issue when you can't communicate openly about it.

And it's working out so well for them... 🙄

I mean any fight over sex and miscommunication is a red flag, but I'd say even If they didn't jump into it and this was 5 months down the line the outcome would have been the same and then even more time was invested.

Leo and Taurus just usually doesn't work. Leo is too fiery, I can see there being communication issues and honestly I think it more so has to do with the Taurus immaturity. He's playing games, and doesn't wanna talk about it.

I just don't think how early they had sex together has anything to do with it.

You just sound obtuse and judgy tbh

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They did jump into it. It's not five months down the line. The outcome for your five month hypothetical scenario is an unknown and irrelevant. Leo and Taurus can get on well. Having sex early on is a massive factor within this situation. Many thanks for the compliments, I've banked those.

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Posted by Skeleton

Also, Taurus will remember it forever when it comes to like "lose my number" for example and pretty unsure about this relationshipe as it need to think about it unless he got distracted.

But his immaturely will do it even worse.

How old are you guys? was it first time having sex when that happened?

We started having sex right away in our relationship. We are both in our mid 30’s.

He is a Taurus and I am a Leo.

We spent anywhere from 4 to 6 nights a week together. We would almost always have sex, he would almost always shut me down for morning sex. I never pushed it. Sex should be fun for both parties.

I have been having minor health stuff going on since we met and right before this incident I was having issues with my health so I was not at 100% . He knew this. This is also why I have to have surgery next week.

We started having sex right away in our relationship.

I rest my case, M'lud.

Nothing wrong with having sex right away in a relationship. They are in their 30s and consenting adults...its only an issue when you can't communicate openly about it.

And it's working out so well for them... 🙄

I mean any fight over sex and miscommunication is a red flag, but I'd say even If they didn't jump into it and this was 5 months down the line the outcome would have been the same and then even more time was invested.

Leo and Taurus just usually doesn't work. Leo is too fiery, I can see there being communication issues and honestly I think it more so has to do with the Taurus immaturity. He's playing games, and doesn't wanna talk about it.

I just don't think how early they had sex together has anything to do with it.

You just sound obtuse and judgy tbh

They did jump into it. It's not five months down the line. The outcome for your five month hypothetical scenario is an unknown and irrelevant. Leo and Taurus can get on well. Having sex early on is a massive factor within this situation. Many thanks for the compliments, I've banked those.

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In this scenario sure it hasn't worked out. From reading through the thread it sounds like they were in a mostly sexual relationship...I'm not even entirely sure they were officially together since she said "dating".

And I don't care if you bank those "compliments " they weren't compliments.

I'm just curious why you are so hell bent on the fact they had sex right away? What is your perfect time line on when people should have sex? You thought two months was too soon...in that case I guess every relationship I've been in should have failed, along with 90% of my friends.

How long did you wait?

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Posted by Skeleton

Also, Taurus will remember it forever when it comes to like "lose my number" for example and pretty unsure about this relationshipe as it need to think about it unless he got distracted.

But his immaturely will do it even worse.

How old are you guys? was it first time having sex when that happened?

We started having sex right away in our relationship. We are both in our mid 30’s.

He is a Taurus and I am a Leo.

We spent anywhere from 4 to 6 nights a week together. We would almost always have sex, he would almost always shut me down for morning sex. I never pushed it. Sex should be fun for both parties.

I have been having minor health stuff going on since we met and right before this incident I was having issues with my health so I was not at 100% . He knew this. This is also why I have to have surgery next week.

We started having sex right away in our relationship.

I rest my case, M'lud.

Nothing wrong with having sex right away in a relationship. They are in their 30s and consenting adults...its only an issue when you can't communicate openly about it.

And it's working out so well for them... 🙄

I mean any fight over sex and miscommunication is a red flag, but I'd say even If they didn't jump into it and this was 5 months down the line the outcome would have been the same and then even more time was invested.

Leo and Taurus just usually doesn't work. Leo is too fiery, I can see there being communication issues and honestly I think it more so has to do with the Taurus immaturity. He's playing games, and doesn't wanna talk about it.

I just don't think how early they had sex together has anything to do with it.

You just sound obtuse and judgy tbh

They did jump into it. It's not five months down the line. The outcome for your five month hypothetical scenario is an unknown and irrelevant. Leo and Taurus can get on well. Having sex early on is a massive factor within this situation. Many thanks for the compliments, I've banked those.

In this scenario sure it hasn't worked out. From reading through the thread it sounds like they were in a mostly sexual relationship...I'm not even entirely sure they were officially together since she said "dating".

And I don't care if you bank those "compliments " they weren't compliments.

I'm just curious why you are so hell bent on the fact they had sex right away? What is your perfect time line on when people should have sex? You thought two months was too soon...in that case I guess every relationship I've been in should have failed, along with 90% of my friends.

How long did you wait?

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Yes, in this scenario it has not worked out so well thus far. It is also the only scenario up for discussion on this thread, isn't it?

I did note you enquired rather late on in the thread regarding if OP was in a relationship or if it was a hook up. Might I suggest you read the full post before making comments otherwise it could be viewed as you as the obtuse one.

OP refers to her situation throughout her thread as a relationship.

Oh the irony of the banked compliment remark was very much lost on you. Shame. Good humour is a wonderful thing to possess.

Im not hell bent. I just stated initially that it sounded like OP and Taurus had become involved, and sexually involved, rather soon. You'll see that earlier in the thread along with plenty of others who were of a similar view. Then OP offered further information regarding embarking upon a sexual relationship from the start. I rested my case.

There is no perfect time line for having sex with anyone.

OP didn't wait two months. My thoughts, which have already been written, refer to a lot of things going on during this two months. Some of which, especially the insecurities/problems/jealousy of this man, may have been exacerbated by sleeping together too soon. Certainly before establishing what each person was looking for and also before getting to know each other properly.

Well, it depends on how you choose to measure success and failure within your relationships as to whether they are, indeed, success or failures. Some people may cite the end of a relationship as a failure because it didn't last for an anticipated period of time. Then you can look at quality in general and quality of outcome so perhaps some of those relationships that ended are not viewed as failures.

For which relationship of mine do you refer to?

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Also, Taurus will remember it forever when it comes to like "lose my number" for example and pretty unsure about this relationshipe as it need to think about it unless he got distracted.

But his immaturely will do it even worse.

How old are you guys? was it first time having sex when that happened?

We started having sex right away in our relationship. We are both in our mid 30’s.

He is a Taurus and I am a Leo.

We spent anywhere from 4 to 6 nights a week together. We would almost always have sex, he would almost always shut me down for morning sex. I never pushed it. Sex should be fun for both parties.

I have been having minor health stuff going on since we met and right before this incident I was having issues with my health so I was not at 100% . He knew this. This is also why I have to have surgery next week.

We started having sex right away in our relationship.

I rest my case, M'lud.

Nothing wrong with having sex right away in a relationship. They are in their 30s and consenting adults...its only an issue when you can't communicate openly about it.

And it's working out so well for them... 🙄

I mean any fight over sex and miscommunication is a red flag, but I'd say even If they didn't jump into it and this was 5 months down the line the outcome would have been the same and then even more time was invested.

Leo and Taurus just usually doesn't work. Leo is too fiery, I can see there being communication issues and honestly I think it more so has to do with the Taurus immaturity. He's playing games, and doesn't wanna talk about it.

I just don't think how early they had sex together has anything to do with it.

You just sound obtuse and judgy tbh

They did jump into it. It's not five months down the line. The outcome for your five month hypothetical scenario is an unknown and irrelevant. Leo and Taurus can get on well. Having sex early on is a massive factor within this situation. Many thanks for the compliments, I've banked those.

In this scenario sure it hasn't worked out. From reading through the thread it sounds like they were in a mostly sexual relationship...I'm not even entirely sure they were officially together since she said "dating".

And I don't care if you bank those "compliments " they weren't compliments.

I'm just curious why you are so hell bent on the fact they had sex right away? What is your perfect time line on when people should have sex? You thought two months was too soon...in that case I guess every relationship I've been in should have failed, along with 90% of my friends.

How long did you wait?

Yes, in this scenario it has not worked out so well thus far. It is also the only scenario up for discussion on this thread, isn't it?

I did note you enquired rather late on in the thread regarding if OP was in a relationship or if it was a hook up. Might I suggest you read the full post before making comments otherwise it could be viewed as you as the obtuse one.

OP refers to her situation throughout her thread as a relationship.

Oh the irony of the banked compliment remark was very much lost on you. Shame. Good humour is a wonderful thing to possess.

Im not hell bent. I just stated initially that it sounded like OP and Taurus had become involved, and sexually involved, rather soon. You'll see that earlier in the thread along with plenty of others who were of a similar view. Then OP offered further information regarding embarking upon a sexual relationship from the start. I rested my case.

There is no perfect time line for having sex with anyone.

OP didn't wait two months. My thoughts, which have already been written, refer to a lot of things going on during this two months. Some of which, especially the insecurities/problems/jealousy of this man, may have been exacerbated by sleeping together too soon. Certainly before establishing what each person was looking for and also before getting to know each other properly.

Well, it depends on how you choose to measure success and failure within your relationships as to whether they are, indeed, success or failures. Some people may cite the end of a relationship as a failure because it didn't last for an anticipated period of time. Then you can look at quality in general and quality of outcome so perhaps some of those relationships that ended are not viewed as failures.

For which relationship of mine do you refer to?

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Your current relationship.

To argue although she does use the term "realtionship" through out the tread, I notice a trend in which that word doesn't always mean an actual boyfriend/girlfriend/partnership (whatever one wants to refer to it as) that why I asked OP to define it and confirm. I find in real life people will say relationship and it is no more then a FWB or they never really had that discussion, just assumed it was mutual, and exclusive etc...

I got your humor, and I have a great sense of humor (one of my best qualities)But I only joke with people I find funny. Not caddy or fascious.i mean your current relationship, but since you made the statement there is no timenline, then I don't care because we seem to agree on that point.

Either way we can agree that sex does seem to be problematic for these too. I just still think you are assuming that their quickness to get intimate is the reason, where so I think it's lack of communication and maturity, and stubbornness.

Should they have gotten to know eachother better before engaging in the physical? Yes. But ultimately he's a maker o think.

Also, not that it relates, but you asked:

Any relationship that doesn't end in marriage is considered a fail in my book. Even if i learned a great deal from it and it ended amicably. My end goal is a spouse. Just my viewpoint.

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Hey op... were you actually in a relationship? Or was it just hooking up?

I would describe it as a relationship. We were exclusive, talking about the future, communicating everyday, seeing each other most days. Making plans to go away during my recovery from surgery.

I did reach out to him today;

Me telling you to lose my number was out of hurt that you would not be kind about me needing to stop having sex. My body is my body and needs to be respected. I don’t know why you are so hurt over my words but I am so very hurt over your actions. I know you want time to figure yourself out, I respect that. I feel like it would be a real shame to throw away all the good over a little bad. I like you a lot.

He responded:

My friend committed suicide

I need to be on my own

Please respect my wishes

I responded with condolences and said I would respect his wishes, but a part of me feels like he is being untruthful to avoid being accountable for his actions.

I am walking away.

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Its a fair point from Jeane and I would agree he may well be sensitive (his history is not available) and didn't handle his perceived physical rejection well.

My Taurus had himself a couple of sex related paddies during the first year of our relationship. His issues were in his own head. He'd have some sort of really irritating meltdown over fuck knows what which would ruin the moment unnecessarily. Sometimes I'd give him the softer approach and other times I'd give him the stern approach which did tell him if he did not like something then he was free to leave. It's not as harsh as it sounds and it would take a while to get to this stage. He rarely has any type of paddies now but when he does I tend to keep him in check in one way or another.

It sounds like OP didn't go straight to the 'lose my number' bit. I've cut and pasted below:

***Then we were in bed and he got frustrated at me because I was to tired to have sex.

Two months in and he's getting frustrated about her not putting out. Did he mistake her for a tap or something? Just turn it on whenever he wants. Does he feel he has some jurisdiction over her body? I'm not being all feminist here but she was too tired. It happens.

***He huffed and wanted to leave,

That's possibly a turn off and as he did not get the sex he wanted he just wanted to fuck off. Nice boyfriend.

***I asked him to stay and told him being to tired had nothing to do with him. It didn’t I was almost unconscious and this behaviour was a real turn off.

She reiterated her reasons because explaining these things once clearly is not sufficient for him. She wanted him to stay so it is not 'him'.

***He continued to huff

Really? Who has time and energy to deal with your new boyfriend of two months

whinging because he couldn't get his dick in. He'd been told twice. What more does it take?

***and I told him if he continued to act this way he could lose my number.

She probably got fucked off. Well she was tired and probably ran out of patience justifying why she did not want to explain the use of her own body.

***He stayed

So he didn't actually leave as he had threatened to do so.

***and in the morning I thought we worked it out,

Assume they had a conversation of some sort and parted on what she thought were good terms.

***but then later that day he texted to say he was hurt that I would say “lose my number” and that he needed space.

Perhaps things were not as sorted as he thought they were but then he needed to say that he'd like to discuss it further later as he still has some concerns. Then he cowardly said he needed 'space'. He needs space because what? He couldn't put his dick in. Yawn. From then on he just played attention games saying he needed space but then text OP but then went back to wanting space and it just went to shit then.

I think if I were OP I'd look at the whole picture. Is there enough here with this person to try and preserve this? Do you want to? Are you happy with how he chooses to handle things? He sounds a little manipulative whereas OP seems more straightforward. Not sure if he has any Cancer or Leo in there and she has some air placements. Charts would be interesting to see!

What is needed to get charts done?

Hrm.. If his friend really did commit suicide, then my sympathies to the guy, he'll have a lot on his plate for a while. Even if he was being an asshole earlier.

But, as you've said, if he was lying about his friend committing suicide just to avoid you? Yea, get the hell out of there. That one lie spoke volumes more than a pack of lies he could've given you, as his mental landscape is not ready for a relationship, and the conflicts they inevitably bring. You'll be doing yourself, and him a favor.

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Hrm.. If his friend really did commit suicide, then my sympathies to the guy, he'll have a lot on his plate for a while. Even if he was being an asshole earlier.

But, as you've said, if he was lying about his friend committing suicide just to avoid you? Yea, get the hell out of there. That one lie spoke volumes more than a pack of lies he could've given you, as his mental landscape is not ready for a relationship, and the conflicts they inevitably bring. You'll be doing yourself, and him a favor.

What does being a marker mean?

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Its a fair point from Jeane and I would agree he may well be sensitive (his history is not available) and didn't handle his perceived physical rejection well.

My Taurus had himself a couple of sex related paddies during the first year of our relationship. His issues were in his own head. He'd have some sort of really irritating meltdown over fuck knows what which would ruin the moment unnecessarily. Sometimes I'd give him the softer approach and other times I'd give him the stern approach which did tell him if he did not like something then he was free to leave. It's not as harsh as it sounds and it would take a while to get to this stage. He rarely has any type of paddies now but when he does I tend to keep him in check in one way or another.

It sounds like OP didn't go straight to the 'lose my number' bit. I've cut and pasted below:

***Then we were in bed and he got frustrated at me because I was to tired to have sex.

Two months in and he's getting frustrated about her not putting out. Did he mistake her for a tap or something? Just turn it on whenever he wants. Does he feel he has some jurisdiction over her body? I'm not being all feminist here but she was too tired. It happens.

***He huffed and wanted to leave,

That's possibly a turn off and as he did not get the sex he wanted he just wanted to fuck off. Nice boyfriend.

***I asked him to stay and told him being to tired had nothing to do with him. It didn’t I was almost unconscious and this behaviour was a real turn off.

She reiterated her reasons because explaining these things once clearly is not sufficient for him. She wanted him to stay so it is not 'him'.

***He continued to huff

Really? Who has time and energy to deal with your new boyfriend of two months

whinging because he couldn't get his dick in. He'd been told twice. What more does it take?

***and I told him if he continued to act this way he could lose my number.

She probably got fucked off. Well she was tired and probably ran out of patience justifying why she did not want to explain the use of her own body.

***He stayed

So he didn't actually leave as he had threatened to do so.

***and in the morning I thought we worked it out,

Assume they had a conversation of some sort and parted on what she thought were good terms.

***but then later that day he texted to say he was hurt that I would say “lose my number” and that he needed space.

Perhaps things were not as sorted as he thought they were but then he needed to say that he'd like to discuss it further later as he still has some concerns. Then he cowardly said he needed 'space'. He needs space because what? He couldn't put his dick in. Yawn. From then on he just played attention games saying he needed space but then text OP but then went back to wanting space and it just went to shit then.

I think if I were OP I'd look at the whole picture. Is there enough here with this person to try and preserve this? Do you want to? Are you happy with how he chooses to handle things? He sounds a little manipulative whereas OP seems more straightforward. Not sure if he has any Cancer or Leo in there and she has some air placements. Charts would be interesting to see!

What is needed to get charts done?

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If you go to astro.com, you can enter your birth info in. Then you can do the same for his. If you don't know birth time then just put midday or unknown. It will still give the basics. You already know his Sun sign of Taurus. You're looking for his moon, Venus, Mars and Mercury which are the main planets. They will be in one of the 12 signs.

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I did reach out to him today;

Me telling you to lose my number was out of hurt that you would not be kind about me needing to stop having sex. My body is my body and needs to be respected. I don’t know why you are so hurt over my words but I am so very hurt over your actions. I know you want time to figure yourself out, I respect that. I feel like it would be a real shame to throw away all the good over a little bad. I like you a lot.

He responded:

My friend committed suicide

I need to be on my own

Please respect my wishes

I responded with condolences and said I would respect his wishes, but a part of me feels like he is being untruthful to avoid being accountable for his actions.

I am walking away.

Jesus! This guy just has far too much going on (true or not) in his life. It doesn't sound like he is ready (the jealousy and immaturity of the needing space every five minutes etc) or available (needing space followed by apparent suicide of friend etc). I doubt you would have built up a significant relationship or are sure you match together followed by 'is there enough here already to continue building on to make a future with this man?' I would say your foundations are unstable so I think it would be worth cutting your losses while you have the chance now. Chalk it up to some sex and move on. Focus on your health and surgeries for now. There's a pool of people ready to be selected for dating waiting for you when you're ready. Next!!

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Also, Taurus will remember it forever when it comes to like "lose my number" for example and pretty unsure about this relationshipe as it need to think about it unless he got distracted.

But his immaturely will do it even worse.

How old are you guys? was it first time having sex when that happened?

We started having sex right away in our relationship. We are both in our mid 30’s.

He is a Taurus and I am a Leo.

We spent anywhere from 4 to 6 nights a week together. We would almost always have sex, he would almost always shut me down for morning sex. I never pushed it. Sex should be fun for both parties.

I have been having minor health stuff going on since we met and right before this incident I was having issues with my health so I was not at 100% . He knew this. This is also why I have to have surgery next week.

We started having sex right away in our relationship.

I rest my case, M'lud.

Nothing wrong with having sex right away in a relationship. They are in their 30s and consenting adults...its only an issue when you can't communicate openly about it.

And it's working out so well for them... 🙄

I mean any fight over sex and miscommunication is a red flag, but I'd say even If they didn't jump into it and this was 5 months down the line the outcome would have been the same and then even more time was invested.

Leo and Taurus just usually doesn't work. Leo is too fiery, I can see there being communication issues and honestly I think it more so has to do with the Taurus immaturity. He's playing games, and doesn't wanna talk about it.

I just don't think how early they had sex together has anything to do with it.

You just sound obtuse and judgy tbh

They did jump into it. It's not five months down the line. The outcome for your five month hypothetical scenario is an unknown and irrelevant. Leo and Taurus can get on well. Having sex early on is a massive factor within this situation. Many thanks for the compliments, I've banked those.

In this scenario sure it hasn't worked out. From reading through the thread it sounds like they were in a mostly sexual relationship...I'm not even entirely sure they were officially together since she said "dating".

And I don't care if you bank those "compliments " they weren't compliments.

I'm just curious why you are so hell bent on the fact they had sex right away? What is your perfect time line on when people should have sex? You thought two months was too soon...in that case I guess every relationship I've been in should have failed, along with 90% of my friends.

How long did you wait?

Yes, in this scenario it has not worked out so well thus far. It is also the only scenario up for discussion on this thread, isn't it?

I did note you enquired rather late on in the thread regarding if OP was in a relationship or if it was a hook up. Might I suggest you read the full post before making comments otherwise it could be viewed as you as the obtuse one.

OP refers to her situation throughout her thread as a relationship.

Oh the irony of the banked compliment remark was very much lost on you. Shame. Good humour is a wonderful thing to possess.

Im not hell bent. I just stated initially that it sounded like OP and Taurus had become involved, and sexually involved, rather soon. You'll see that earlier in the thread along with plenty of others who were of a similar view. Then OP offered further information regarding embarking upon a sexual relationship from the start. I rested my case.

There is no perfect time line for having sex with anyone.

OP didn't wait two months. My thoughts, which have already been written, refer to a lot of things going on during this two months. Some of which, especially the insecurities/problems/jealousy of this man, may have been exacerbated by sleeping together too soon. Certainly before establishing what each person was looking for and also before getting to know each other properly.

Well, it depends on how you choose to measure success and failure within your relationships as to whether they are, indeed, success or failures. Some people may cite the end of a relationship as a failure because it didn't last for an anticipated period of time. Then you can look at quality in general and quality of outcome so perhaps some of those relationships that ended are not viewed as failures.

For which relationship of mine do you refer to?

Your current relationship.

To argue although she does use the term "realtionship" through out the tread, I notice a trend in which that word doesn't always mean an actual boyfriend/girlfriend/partnership (whatever one wants to refer to it as) that why I asked OP to define it and confirm. I find in real life people will say relationship and it is no more then a FWB or they never really had that discussion, just assumed it was mutual, and exclusive etc...

I got your humor, and I have a great sense of humor (one of my best qualities)But I only joke with people I find funny. Not caddy or fascious.i mean your current relationship, but since you made the statement there is no timenline, then I don't care because we seem to agree on that point.

Either way we can agree that sex does seem to be problematic for these too. I just still think you are assuming that their quickness to get intimate is the reason, where so I think it's lack of communication and maturity, and stubbornness.

Should they have gotten to know eachother better before engaging in the physical? Yes. But ultimately he's a maker o think.

Also, not that it relates, but you asked:

Any relationship that doesn't end in marriage is considered a fail in my book. Even if i learned a great deal from it and it ended amicably. My end goal is a spouse. Just my viewpoint.

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Posted by Peachesmal

I did reach out to him today;

Me telling you to lose my number was out of hurt that you would not be kind about me needing to stop having sex. My body is my body and needs to be respected. I don’t know why you are so hurt over my words but I am so very hurt over your actions. I know you want time to figure yourself out, I respect that. I feel like it would be a real shame to throw away all the good over a little bad. I like you a lot.

He responded:

My friend committed suicide

I need to be on my own

Please respect my wishes

I responded with condolences and said I would respect his wishes, but a part of me feels like he is being untruthful to avoid being accountable for his actions.

I am walking away.

You’re probably right to walk away. He would have been hurt by the rejection over sex then hurt by the ‘lose my number’ remark. Out of interest did you say that the first time he grumbled or was there a bit of back and forth?

Seems dubious about the friend but let’s give him the benefit of the doubt. I think he probably hoped when saying ‘I need space’ that you would say you wanted him and wanted to see him. However, the new comment of ‘I need to be on my own. Please respect my wishes’ is a dick move.

If I was being really critical I would say your message was criticising him even more and wasn’t an ‘apology’ as such. Many here will say that’s a red flag and you don’t need to put up with it and whatever but Taurus needs to be coddled sometimes and we have an ego. Not saying it’s right or wrong, just the way it is.

You’re right about him needing to respect your wishes though.

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I let him huff and puff a bunch, he got in and out for bed a few times, saying he wanted to go home, that he no longer felt comfortable. I asked him to stay multiple times. He became more belligerent and that is when I told I’m if he continued acting this way he could lose my number.

Reaching out to him with my last message was not an apology. I don’t think I need to apologize for standing up for myself. It was more to let him know where I stand and that I still had feelings for him. He still has not apologized for his actions. He keeps pushing me away and pulling me back.

After giving my condolences for his friend and that I would respect his wishes, he continued to text me that he was devastated and so on.

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Its a fair point from Jeane and I would agree he may well be sensitive (his history is not available) and didn't handle his perceived physical rejection well.

My Taurus had himself a couple of sex related paddies during the first year of our relationship. His issues were in his own head. He'd have some sort of really irritating meltdown over fuck knows what which would ruin the moment unnecessarily. Sometimes I'd give him the softer approach and other times I'd give him the stern approach which did tell him if he did not like something then he was free to leave. It's not as harsh as it sounds and it would take a while to get to this stage. He rarely has any type of paddies now but when he does I tend to keep him in check in one way or another.

It sounds like OP didn't go straight to the 'lose my number' bit. I've cut and pasted below:

***Then we were in bed and he got frustrated at me because I was to tired to have sex.

Two months in and he's getting frustrated about her not putting out. Did he mistake her for a tap or something? Just turn it on whenever he wants. Does he feel he has some jurisdiction over her body? I'm not being all feminist here but she was too tired. It happens.

***He huffed and wanted to leave,

That's possibly a turn off and as he did not get the sex he wanted he just wanted to fuck off. Nice boyfriend.

***I asked him to stay and told him being to tired had nothing to do with him. It didn’t I was almost unconscious and this behaviour was a real turn off.

She reiterated her reasons because explaining these things once clearly is not sufficient for him. She wanted him to stay so it is not 'him'.

***He continued to huff

Really? Who has time and energy to deal with your new boyfriend of two months

whinging because he couldn't get his dick in. He'd been told twice. What more does it take?

***and I told him if he continued to act this way he could lose my number.

She probably got fucked off. Well she was tired and probably ran out of patience justifying why she did not want to explain the use of her own body.

***He stayed

So he didn't actually leave as he had threatened to do so.

***and in the morning I thought we worked it out,

Assume they had a conversation of some sort and parted on what she thought were good terms.

***but then later that day he texted to say he was hurt that I would say “lose my number” and that he needed space.

Perhaps things were not as sorted as he thought they were but then he needed to say that he'd like to discuss it further later as he still has some concerns. Then he cowardly said he needed 'space'. He needs space because what? He couldn't put his dick in. Yawn. From then on he just played attention games saying he needed space but then text OP but then went back to wanting space and it just went to shit then.

I think if I were OP I'd look at the whole picture. Is there enough here with this person to try and preserve this? Do you want to? Are you happy with how he chooses to handle things? He sounds a little manipulative whereas OP seems more straightforward. Not sure if he has any Cancer or Leo in there and she has some air placements. Charts would be interesting to see!

What is needed to get charts done?

If you go to astro.com, you can enter your birth info in. Then you can do the same for his. If you don't know birth time then just put midday or unknown. It will still give the basics. You already know his Sun sign of Taurus. You're looking for his moon, Venus, Mars and Mercury which are the main planets. They will be in one of the 12 signs.

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He is a Taurus sun

Libra moon

Gemini Venus

Gemini mercury

Taurus mars

I am sun leo

Moon Scorpio

Mercury Leo

Venus cancer

Mars Libra

What does that all mean?

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Posted by Peachesmal

I did reach out to him today;

Me telling you to lose my number was out of hurt that you would not be kind about me needing to stop having sex. My body is my body and needs to be respected. I don’t know why you are so hurt over my words but I am so very hurt over your actions. I know you want time to figure yourself out, I respect that. I feel like it would be a real shame to throw away all the good over a little bad. I like you a lot.

He responded:

My friend committed suicide

I need to be on my own

Please respect my wishes

I responded with condolences and said I would respect his wishes, but a part of me feels like he is being untruthful to avoid being accountable for his actions.

I am walking away.

You’re probably right to walk away. He would have been hurt by the rejection over sex then hurt by the ‘lose my number’ remark. Out of interest did you say that the first time he grumbled or was there a bit of back and forth?

Seems dubious about the friend but let’s give him the benefit of the doubt. I think he probably hoped when saying ‘I need space’ that you would say you wanted him and wanted to see him. However, the new comment of ‘I need to be on my own. Please respect my wishes’ is a dick move.

If I was being really critical I would say your message was criticising him even more and wasn’t an ‘apology’ as such. Many here will say that’s a red flag and you don’t need to put up with it and whatever but Taurus needs to be coddled sometimes and we have an ego. Not saying it’s right or wrong, just the way it is.

You’re right about him needing to respect your wishes though.

I let him huff and puff a bunch, he got in and out for bed a few times, saying he wanted to go home, that he no longer felt comfortable. I asked him to stay multiple times. He became more belligerent and that is when I told I’m if he continued acting this way he could lose my number.

Reaching out to him with my last message was not an apology. I don’t think I need to apologize for standing up for myself. It was more to let him know where I stand and that I still had feelings for him. He still has not apologized for his actions. He keeps pushing me away and pulling me back.

After giving my condolences for his friend and that I would respect his wishes, he continued to text me that he was devastated and so on.

That’s fair, I just wanted to understand. He was disrespectful so he probably deserved the comment from you.

Did you reply to his extra messages?

What do you want to do now? Not deal with him?

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Yes just to say I am sorry you feel that way.

The responsible thing is to walk away.

But there is a part of me that still wants the apology for his actions.

And another part of me that still wants him.

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Posted by Peachesmal

I did reach out to him today;

Me telling you to lose my number was out of hurt that you would not be kind about me needing to stop having sex. My body is my body and needs to be respected. I don’t know why you are so hurt over my words but I am so very hurt over your actions. I know you want time to figure yourself out, I respect that. I feel like it would be a real shame to throw away all the good over a little bad. I like you a lot.

He responded:

My friend committed suicide

I need to be on my own

Please respect my wishes

I responded with condolences and said I would respect his wishes, but a part of me feels like he is being untruthful to avoid being accountable for his actions.

I am walking away.

You’re probably right to walk away. He would have been hurt by the rejection over sex then hurt by the ‘lose my number’ remark. Out of interest did you say that the first time he grumbled or was there a bit of back and forth?

Seems dubious about the friend but let’s give him the benefit of the doubt. I think he probably hoped when saying ‘I need space’ that you would say you wanted him and wanted to see him. However, the new comment of ‘I need to be on my own. Please respect my wishes’ is a dick move.

If I was being really critical I would say your message was criticising him even more and wasn’t an ‘apology’ as such. Many here will say that’s a red flag and you don’t need to put up with it and whatever but Taurus needs to be coddled sometimes and we have an ego. Not saying it’s right or wrong, just the way it is.

You’re right about him needing to respect your wishes though.

I let him huff and puff a bunch, he got in and out for bed a few times, saying he wanted to go home, that he no longer felt comfortable. I asked him to stay multiple times. He became more belligerent and that is when I told I’m if he continued acting this way he could lose my number.

Reaching out to him with my last message was not an apology. I don’t think I need to apologize for standing up for myself. It was more to let him know where I stand and that I still had feelings for him. He still has not apologized for his actions. He keeps pushing me away and pulling me back.

After giving my condolences for his friend and that I would respect his wishes, he continued to text me that he was devastated and so on.

That’s fair, I just wanted to understand. He was disrespectful so he probably deserved the comment from you.

Did you reply to his extra messages?

What do you want to do now? Not deal with him?

Yes just to say I am sorry you feel that way.

The responsible thing is to walk away.

But there is a part of me that still wants the apology for his actions.

And another part of me that still wants him.

Don't expect anyone to owe an apology to you, unexpect if they do so.

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Haha I have zero expectations of an apology or expecting one. But I would like one.

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Posted by Peachesmal

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Posted by Peachesmal

I did reach out to him today;

Me telling you to lose my number was out of hurt that you would not be kind about me needing to stop having sex. My body is my body and needs to be respected. I don’t know why you are so hurt over my words but I am so very hurt over your actions. I know you want time to figure yourself out, I respect that. I feel like it would be a real shame to throw away all the good over a little bad. I like you a lot.

He responded:

My friend committed suicide

I need to be on my own

Please respect my wishes

I responded with condolences and said I would respect his wishes, but a part of me feels like he is being untruthful to avoid being accountable for his actions.

I am walking away.

You’re probably right to walk away. He would have been hurt by the rejection over sex then hurt by the ‘lose my number’ remark. Out of interest did you say that the first time he grumbled or was there a bit of back and forth?

Seems dubious about the friend but let’s give him the benefit of the doubt. I think he probably hoped when saying ‘I need space’ that you would say you wanted him and wanted to see him. However, the new comment of ‘I need to be on my own. Please respect my wishes’ is a dick move.

If I was being really critical I would say your message was criticising him even more and wasn’t an ‘apology’ as such. Many here will say that’s a red flag and you don’t need to put up with it and whatever but Taurus needs to be coddled sometimes and we have an ego. Not saying it’s right or wrong, just the way it is.

You’re right about him needing to respect your wishes though.

I let him huff and puff a bunch, he got in and out for bed a few times, saying he wanted to go home, that he no longer felt comfortable. I asked him to stay multiple times. He became more belligerent and that is when I told I’m if he continued acting this way he could lose my number.

Reaching out to him with my last message was not an apology. I don’t think I need to apologize for standing up for myself. It was more to let him know where I stand and that I still had feelings for him. He still has not apologized for his actions. He keeps pushing me away and pulling me back.

After giving my condolences for his friend and that I would respect his wishes, he continued to text me that he was devastated and so on.

That’s fair, I just wanted to understand. He was disrespectful so he probably deserved the comment from you.

Did you reply to his extra messages?

What do you want to do now? Not deal with him?

Yes just to say I am sorry you feel that way.

The responsible thing is to walk away.

But there is a part of me that still wants the apology for his actions.

And another part of me that still wants him.

Hope it works out for you. It may be best to let him initiate any further contact and let him cool off. He may realise he’s been an ass.

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I have deleted all contact information I had for him. Clearing out.

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Its a fair point from Jeane and I would agree he may well be sensitive (his history is not available) and didn't handle his perceived physical rejection well.

My Taurus had himself a couple of sex related paddies during the first year of our relationship. His issues were in his own head. He'd have some sort of really irritating meltdown over fuck knows what which would ruin the moment unnecessarily. Sometimes I'd give him the softer approach and other times I'd give him the stern approach which did tell him if he did not like something then he was free to leave. It's not as harsh as it sounds and it would take a while to get to this stage. He rarely has any type of paddies now but when he does I tend to keep him in check in one way or another.

It sounds like OP didn't go straight to the 'lose my number' bit. I've cut and pasted below:

***Then we were in bed and he got frustrated at me because I was to tired to have sex.

Two months in and he's getting frustrated about her not putting out. Did he mistake her for a tap or something? Just turn it on whenever he wants. Does he feel he has some jurisdiction over her body? I'm not being all feminist here but she was too tired. It happens.

***He huffed and wanted to leave,

That's possibly a turn off and as he did not get the sex he wanted he just wanted to fuck off. Nice boyfriend.

***I asked him to stay and told him being to tired had nothing to do with him. It didn’t I was almost unconscious and this behaviour was a real turn off.

She reiterated her reasons because explaining these things once clearly is not sufficient for him. She wanted him to stay so it is not 'him'.

***He continued to huff

Really? Who has time and energy to deal with your new boyfriend of two months

whinging because he couldn't get his dick in. He'd been told twice. What more does it take?

***and I told him if he continued to act this way he could lose my number.

She probably got fucked off. Well she was tired and probably ran out of patience justifying why she did not want to explain the use of her own body.

***He stayed

So he didn't actually leave as he had threatened to do so.

***and in the morning I thought we worked it out,

Assume they had a conversation of some sort and parted on what she thought were good terms.

***but then later that day he texted to say he was hurt that I would say “lose my number” and that he needed space.

Perhaps things were not as sorted as he thought they were but then he needed to say that he'd like to discuss it further later as he still has some concerns. Then he cowardly said he needed 'space'. He needs space because what? He couldn't put his dick in. Yawn. From then on he just played attention games saying he needed space but then text OP but then went back to wanting space and it just went to shit then.

I think if I were OP I'd look at the whole picture. Is there enough here with this person to try and preserve this? Do you want to? Are you happy with how he chooses to handle things? He sounds a little manipulative whereas OP seems more straightforward. Not sure if he has any Cancer or Leo in there and she has some air placements. Charts would be interesting to see!

What is needed to get charts done?

If you go to astro.com, you can enter your birth info in. Then you can do the same for his. If you don't know birth time then just put midday or unknown. It will still give the basics. You already know his Sun sign of Taurus. You're looking for his moon, Venus, Mars and Mercury which are the main planets. They will be in one of the 12 signs.

He is a Taurus sun

Libra moon

Gemini Venus

Gemini mercury

Taurus mars

I am sun leo

Moon Scorpio

Mercury Leo

Venus cancer

Mars Libra

What does that all mean?

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Im not the best astrologer here but here's a few things below that stick out. Also you can Google 'Gemini in Venus man' or 'moon in Scorpio woman' etc and read up on this stuff although probably a waste of time for this fella now, lol.

He's a Taurus so his core self would be taurus traits such as loyal, stubborn, handsome (that one was my fella's contribution!) However, his Venus, which is how he loves, is in Gemini so he will have Gemini traits here. Fickle and flighty are the main ones that spring to mind. Not emotional in the usual way, quite cerebral, likes mental connection over emotional. I didn't get on with a Taurus Sun/Venus Gemini man. Communication was awful. My mother is a Gemini Sun and Venus. It is like talking to an alien!

Mercury, planet of communication, in gemini would be good with words, witty, writes well.

Libra moon can be a bit flighty too.

From an astrology point of view, I would think your moon and venus would not be a match for this man. Long term would be hard work.

Anyone else can chip in here!

Posted by ScorpioTruth

He sounds manipulative. 👎🏼👎🏼

Ya😔

Excuse the fawk outta me.

Do EXACTLY what he says.

Respect his wishes and treat him like he is beneath you.

You are a queen.

Dont call him or text him anymore.

Hes super vindictive and a liar.

You'd want to be with the ppl you love when you're hurting.

Take him literal every single time.

That's how you treat people who play games.

Take them literal.

Posted by Peachesmal

Posted by AnotherTaurusGuyReturns

Posted by Peachesmal

Posted by AnotherTaurusGuyReturns

Posted by Peachesmal

I did reach out to him today;

Me telling you to lose my number was out of hurt that you would not be kind about me needing to stop having sex. My body is my body and needs to be respected. I don’t know why you are so hurt over my words but I am so very hurt over your actions. I know you want time to figure yourself out, I respect that. I feel like it would be a real shame to throw away all the good over a little bad. I like you a lot.

He responded:

My friend committed suicide

I need to be on my own

Please respect my wishes

I responded with condolences and said I would respect his wishes, but a part of me feels like he is being untruthful to avoid being accountable for his actions.

I am walking away.

You’re probably right to walk away. He would have been hurt by the rejection over sex then hurt by the ‘lose my number’ remark. Out of interest did you say that the first time he grumbled or was there a bit of back and forth?

Seems dubious about the friend but let’s give him the benefit of the doubt. I think he probably hoped when saying ‘I need space’ that you would say you wanted him and wanted to see him. However, the new comment of ‘I need to be on my own. Please respect my wishes’ is a dick move.

If I was being really critical I would say your message was criticising him even more and wasn’t an ‘apology’ as such. Many here will say that’s a red flag and you don’t need to put up with it and whatever but Taurus needs to be coddled sometimes and we have an ego. Not saying it’s right or wrong, just the way it is.

You’re right about him needing to respect your wishes though.

I let him huff and puff a bunch, he got in and out for bed a few times, saying he wanted to go home, that he no longer felt comfortable. I asked him to stay multiple times. He became more belligerent and that is when I told I’m if he continued acting this way he could lose my number.

Reaching out to him with my last message was not an apology. I don’t think I need to apologize for standing up for myself. It was more to let him know where I stand and that I still had feelings for him. He still has not apologized for his actions. He keeps pushing me away and pulling me back.

After giving my condolences for his friend and that I would respect his wishes, he continued to text me that he was devastated and so on.

That’s fair, I just wanted to understand. He was disrespectful so he probably deserved the comment from you.

Did you reply to his extra messages?

What do you want to do now? Not deal with him?

Yes just to say I am sorry you feel that way.

The responsible thing is to walk away.

But there is a part of me that still wants the apology for his actions.

And another part of me that still wants him.

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That's your ego talking.

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Posted by Peachesmal

Posted by AnotherTaurusGuyReturns

Posted by Peachesmal

Posted by AnotherTaurusGuyReturns

Posted by Peachesmal

I did reach out to him today;

Me telling you to lose my number was out of hurt that you would not be kind about me needing to stop having sex. My body is my body and needs to be respected. I don’t know why you are so hurt over my words but I am so very hurt over your actions. I know you want time to figure yourself out, I respect that. I feel like it would be a real shame to throw away all the good over a little bad. I like you a lot.

He responded:

My friend committed suicide

I need to be on my own

Please respect my wishes

I responded with condolences and said I would respect his wishes, but a part of me feels like he is being untruthful to avoid being accountable for his actions.

I am walking away.

You’re probably right to walk away. He would have been hurt by the rejection over sex then hurt by the ‘lose my number’ remark. Out of interest did you say that the first time he grumbled or was there a bit of back and forth?

Seems dubious about the friend but let’s give him the benefit of the doubt. I think he probably hoped when saying ‘I need space’ that you would say you wanted him and wanted to see him. However, the new comment of ‘I need to be on my own. Please respect my wishes’ is a dick move.

If I was being really critical I would say your message was criticising him even more and wasn’t an ‘apology’ as such. Many here will say that’s a red flag and you don’t need to put up with it and whatever but Taurus needs to be coddled sometimes and we have an ego. Not saying it’s right or wrong, just the way it is.

You’re right about him needing to respect your wishes though.

I let him huff and puff a bunch, he got in and out for bed a few times, saying he wanted to go home, that he no longer felt comfortable. I asked him to stay multiple times. He became more belligerent and that is when I told I’m if he continued acting this way he could lose my number.

Reaching out to him with my last message was not an apology. I don’t think I need to apologize for standing up for myself. It was more to let him know where I stand and that I still had feelings for him. He still has not apologized for his actions. He keeps pushing me away and pulling me back.

After giving my condolences for his friend and that I would respect his wishes, he continued to text me that he was devastated and so on.

That’s fair, I just wanted to understand. He was disrespectful so he probably deserved the comment from you.

Did you reply to his extra messages?

What do you want to do now? Not deal with him?

Yes just to say I am sorry you feel that way.

The responsible thing is to walk away.

But there is a part of me that still wants the apology for his actions.

And another part of me that still wants him.

That's your ego talking.

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You are saying it is my ego that still wants him? And hopes for an apology?

Posted by DMV

Excuse the fawk outta me.

Do EXACTLY what he says.

Respect his wishes and treat him like he is beneath you.

You are a queen.

Dont call him or text him anymore.

Hes super vindictive and a liar.

You'd want to be with the ppl you love when you're hurting.

Take him literal every single time.

That's how you treat people who play games.

Take them literal.

Haha!

Yes, I have deleted all communication and numbers and e mails. There is no way for me to contact him.

Kinda scary that I was so blind to him for the last couple of months. Looking back there were so many other things that were not ok.

Thanks for the blunt and honest words!

Posted by AgentP911

Posted by Peachesmal

Posted by AgentP911

Posted by Peachesmal

Posted by AgentP911

Its a fair point from Jeane and I would agree he may well be sensitive (his history is not available) and didn't handle his perceived physical rejection well.

My Taurus had himself a couple of sex related paddies during the first year of our relationship. His issues were in his own head. He'd have some sort of really irritating meltdown over fuck knows what which would ruin the moment unnecessarily. Sometimes I'd give him the softer approach and other times I'd give him the stern approach which did tell him if he did not like something then he was free to leave. It's not as harsh as it sounds and it would take a while to get to this stage. He rarely has any type of paddies now but when he does I tend to keep him in check in one way or another.

It sounds like OP didn't go straight to the 'lose my number' bit. I've cut and pasted below:

***Then we were in bed and he got frustrated at me because I was to tired to have sex.

Two months in and he's getting frustrated about her not putting out. Did he mistake her for a tap or something? Just turn it on whenever he wants. Does he feel he has some jurisdiction over her body? I'm not being all feminist here but she was too tired. It happens.

***He huffed and wanted to leave,

That's possibly a turn off and as he did not get the sex he wanted he just wanted to fuck off. Nice boyfriend.

***I asked him to stay and told him being to tired had nothing to do with him. It didn’t I was almost unconscious and this behaviour was a real turn off.

She reiterated her reasons because explaining these things once clearly is not sufficient for him. She wanted him to stay so it is not 'him'.

***He continued to huff

Really? Who has time and energy to deal with your new boyfriend of two months

whinging because he couldn't get his dick in. He'd been told twice. What more does it take?

***and I told him if he continued to act this way he could lose my number.

She probably got fucked off. Well she was tired and probably ran out of patience justifying why she did not want to explain the use of her own body.

***He stayed

So he didn't actually leave as he had threatened to do so.

***and in the morning I thought we worked it out,

Assume they had a conversation of some sort and parted on what she thought were good terms.

***but then later that day he texted to say he was hurt that I would say “lose my number” and that he needed space.

Perhaps things were not as sorted as he thought they were but then he needed to say that he'd like to discuss it further later as he still has some concerns. Then he cowardly said he needed 'space'. He needs space because what? He couldn't put his dick in. Yawn. From then on he just played attention games saying he needed space but then text OP but then went back to wanting space and it just went to shit then.

I think if I were OP I'd look at the whole picture. Is there enough here with this person to try and preserve this? Do you want to? Are you happy with how he chooses to handle things? He sounds a little manipulative whereas OP seems more straightforward. Not sure if he has any Cancer or Leo in there and she has some air placements. Charts would be interesting to see!

What is needed to get charts done?

If you go to astro.com, you can enter your birth info in. Then you can do the same for his. If you don't know birth time then just put midday or unknown. It will still give the basics. You already know his Sun sign of Taurus. You're looking for his moon, Venus, Mars and Mercury which are the main planets. They will be in one of the 12 signs.

He is a Taurus sun

Libra moon

Gemini Venus

Gemini mercury

Taurus mars

I am sun leo

Moon Scorpio

Mercury Leo

Venus cancer

Mars Libra

What does that all mean?

Im not the best astrologer here but here's a few things below that stick out. Also you can Google 'Gemini in Venus man' or 'moon in Scorpio woman' etc and read up on this stuff although probably a waste of time for this fella now, lol.

He's a Taurus so his core self would be taurus traits such as loyal, stubborn, handsome (that one was my fella's contribution!) However, his Venus, which is how he loves, is in Gemini so he will have Gemini traits here. Fickle and flighty are the main ones that spring to mind. Not emotional in the usual way, quite cerebral, likes mental connection over emotional. I didn't get on with a Taurus Sun/Venus Gemini man. Communication was awful. My mother is a Gemini Sun and Venus. It is like talking to an alien!

Mercury, planet of communication, in gemini would be good with words, witty, writes well.

Libra moon can be a bit flighty too.

From an astrology point of view, I would think your moon and venus would not be a match for this man. Long term would be hard work.

Anyone else can chip in here!

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This sounds accurate.

I'm Gemini venus which is the aspect I hate most in my chart. But now that I know about it I'm able to counteract it.

I love my gem in merc, makes me a little zany because my Taurus parts can be dull.

My bf is libra moon, he can be fickle but it also makes him very understanding and he really thinks about things before he says them and gives very unbiased advice.