Taurus Women

my sister is a taurus, im a cancer-leo cusp.she has emotional freak outs ALL the time,now im half cancer and i have my emotions in control..but she is really bad with that..any advice—??

by the way... the reason of her emotional freak outs is a scorpio ...is that a bad match?

''by the way... the reason of her emotional freak outs is a scorpio ...is that a bad match?''

Scorpio-taurus relationship can be very good or very bad as polar opposites on the chart.


''my sister is a taurus, im a cancer-leo cusp.she has emotional freak outs ALL the time,now im half cancer and i have my emotions in control..but she is really bad with that..any advice—??''

I have a Taurus sister and mom. I wouldn't say they are the most emotional people - only freak out when material possessions will be threatened. Has she invested anything in the relationship? All tauruses I know only freak out when in this situation. Earth signs don't really waste time with unproductive emotions - generally speaking - then you need to find out her moon, ascending, etc...

Taurus don't like to be controlled - scorpio is apparently a very controlled sign so this may be making her lose her cool. No one can win - compromise sometimes makes you stronger. Most people that like to dominate don't see this (your cancer half probably knows this).

i agree. its probably the scorp making her lose her cool, otherwise taurus' tend to be very laid back and relaxed. i.e. something of hers is being threatened, possibly her pride if anything else. Investments are big with taurus', we dont like wasting time so maybe her return rate on the scorps bothering her? its difficult for me to give up on any relationship, so even when things are going down my fights still up. and yea check up on her moon sign, that tells a lot of how shes going to act emotionally.

I'm a taurus female & yes it is true I'm extremely emotional but I rarely show it & when I do it's usually in the form of anger. That's one emotion I have a hard time controlling

"I wouldn't say they are the most emotional people - only freak out when material possessions will be threatened." Not just material possessions, Zena..... ALL possessions 🙂 Yeah I'm possessive to the max. Of my family, friends, things......FOOD LOL!

I also have a scorp B/F & it's true you either get along great or not at all, there is no in between. Fortunately we get along great & though we've had a couple spats.....they end really quickly

Stand corrected - All possessions.

Taurus don't like to be controlled - scorpio is apparently a very controlled sign so this may be making her lose her cool. No one can win - compromise sometimes makes you stronger. Most people that like to dominate don't see this (your cancer half probably knows this).


THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING ON.she has been in a relationship with a scorpio for about 2 months now and he keeps telling her he wants a serious relationship,but they never spend time together shes always complaining about him never calling her as a way of controling her and she HATES to be controled.She says when they spend time together everything is ok but then he just doesnt wanna do anything,and shes the type that hates being in the house she wants to go out to dinner or shopping or clubbing, taurus traits i assume but yea ud think id be more emotional than her but i think my leo side keeps me cool because i tell her why wont u just call him first and she wont says its his job

emotional freak outs ..as in just that,she starts crying out of anger,and wont let relationships go when they are not working,she holds on and gets attached easily i wouldnt be surprised if she had cancer in her chart,her bday is may 12,1981

don't threaten a bull's heart...we are very gaurded with our hearts and don't let people into them easily. I "freak out" if I let someone into my heart and they break it. Usually I'm very controlled about my emotions, don't complain about anything, I do lose my temper when I'm angry [aries moon] but all in all people think I'm like a rock...and I don't mean that strictly in a steady source of strength kind of way; I'm quiet, keep to myself, usually logical and in control of myself. But not where my heart is concerned. If the scorp isn't treating her right, especially if he is the one pushing for a relationship, then she's not going to take kindly to being toyed with like that. We are stubborn and possessive people; if you promise us the world [or just your heart] then you damn well better deliver. No grey areas.

Well, relationships ARE investments of time, energy, etc, so no, personally speaking I don't take this lightly. I have a Taurus Moon, but much like xAngelfish* I guard my heart to the fullest extent, and I typically don't "freak out" too much either, and oddly enough for me to be jealous I have to REALLY like you, because I'm not typically a jealous person. Also, I "do what I say and say what I do" so I expect the same from others. Don't try to BS me or insult my intelligence by lying to me, because I'll be very upset and the person doing this to me will not be happy with what I'll have to say to them. It takes a lot to upset me, but once you do...it's pretty much over; unless there are severely extentuating circumstances.
*waves at xAngelfishx - haven't seen you in a minute 😉)*

*waves back at USC* hey you - been keeping to myself lately, had a lot on my mind.

It's all good, take care of YOU! Just know you are missed when not around.

aww...thanks 🙂

always leave 'em wanting more 😉

oh and aqualeo...you couldn't be more wrong...are people investments? yes...but of the heart...not like a banking investment... when someone has my heart I can't even see anyone else.... people become genderless to me and I don't even think "what if?...."

that's a truly horrible evaluation of taurean women, but I can see how someone who has not seen a bull in love can say that - we don't come across as the most affectionate and loving people to most. But when in love it's a completely different story.

i agree with xangelfishx and usc taurus gal..that is correct to a t with me..i dont like wasted time and energy and i dont worry with people who dont matter to me...and people do view me as cold and are puzzled because we dont show any emotion if the relationship is going south and we recognize it..but when im in love it is totally different..very affectionate,accomodating,laid back and relaxed,but all people dont get to see that..just people who are in my inner circle and close family and the person im in love with...so yeah im very guarded...when in love i dont like for the relationship to be complicated/or to have drama because then i go into my shell...until it improves if doesnt improve then i slowly withdraw myself from the situation...and in the process i will tell you that im not happy..and hopefully the other party will be listening,if not when the relationship ends they end up confused..and no i dont let go easily..never have,probably never will,,but as i get older ive learned to let some things go a little easier it just depends on who or what it is..i dont think i fall for someone easily like people think,,its just that it think as taurus women,since we at a young age already know in our hearts what we want in a mate,we evaluate a potential partner quickly,and if he measures up then we go for it..so it my seem to others that we move fast,it just that we decide quickly,,remember we dont like to waste time and energy...by the way my b/d is on 5/13......

oh and by the way i dont have a problem with being controlled by my mate,,but only if he is on top of his game,,he has to know what his role is,,meaning we are traditional women,,we expect to get what we give in return no less.....if you are going to be the man you have to fu-fill that role,i dont want to have to tell how to do everything,,you should know and once you are doing what u suppose to do i will follow suit....and as a traditional woman i have a problem with calling him all the time,,,again that is part of the role of a man..to pursue...i feel that if i have to call u all the time than u are not interested..so i agree with your sister i shouldnt have to call u constantly,,if u want to be with me u should as as such

see taurus women are tricky...if we want u we will pursue u,,but once we get u we feel we dont have to pursue u anymore,dont get me wrong we still treat u like a king but we then expect u to start fu-filling your role,and that means u then pursue me/court me like a real man should

you really hit the nail on the head with the thing about telling someone you're not happy and then just walking away.... I'll keep telling them and telling them... I don't need to to say "look if you don't straighten up RIGHT NOW I'm out of here" because I've already given fair warning. One day I'll just be gone because they didn't listen and then they end up confused.

And the thing about falling in love too easily...I've been accused of that particularly by my scorp friend...but the thing is she's only ever even heard me talk about an interest in like two men through out our 6 or 7 year friendship and she thinks that's falling for someone easily....yet she's dating someone new every couple of months [usually a couple of someone news] but she thinks it's different because she doesn't get invested in them emotiuonally so that makes her "strong"...well I don't bother with someone I can't be emotionally invested in. For me it's about quality, not quantity.

And yes, I will pursue a man if I'm interested...some see that as weak but I disagree...I go after what I want.

I had a boyfriend in high school that would break up with me every couple of weeks. He'd tell me he had family problems, or couldn't deal with a relationship and school right now....then a week later he'd call me and want to get back together...well one day I just told him no. He was shocked, after all I'd taken him back every other time. But I told him he was just going to break up with me again in another week or two and I wasn't interested in being treated that way. That was freshman year and he never really got over it...senior year he wanted me to go rent a house with him.... He was a good guy but he really had his head up his ass where our relationship was concerned. It's sad because people get the impression they can take advantage of us...what they don't realize is that we let them be themselves and treat us however they're goign to - and then decide if that's what we want. And if you're not treating me the way I want to be treated, well I've already warned you; that should be enough. Either you listen or you don't.

yeah xangelfishx i think men think they can take advantage of us too because we are so passive...but it is not until we leave them alone,that they decide to appreciate us and want us back..im going thru that now..they realize we are the best thing smokin..

lol - that is sooooo true...I can't tell you how many guys have found me [and I do mean FOUND...they went looking, tracking me down!] years after I knew them to tell me I'm the most amazing woman they ever knew and they want another chance...I mean I've had about five of them in the last two years come after me after almost ten years of not seeing or speaking to them...it's crazy...funny thing they never appreciate me when they have me 😢

I don't know if he was scopr - in high school I didn't ask as much, just noted if it came up because I still had that idea that if people knew how much I was into astrology they would think I was nust..and since it was high school I didn't want to stand out...too much 😉
Nut yeah..I hear ya on the scorp thing...they are INTENSE..and not in a good way..

aqualeo...you misunderstand...we ARE being ourselves...people don't see that side of us unless they see us with someone we love because that is the only time it is relevent. For me personally I don't look at people as the type of investments you say we do.... I do however feel that people come and go, and even friends and family will eventually have their own significvant others and families etc...and they will not have time for you anymore. They might loive you but it is not the same. The only person who will really be a part of your life and be there for you is your significant other - provided that is that they love you as much as you love them. And I am aware that people show love differently - I both want and need someone who shows love the way I want it to be shown. Some people show love by buying you things...that is not what I want...I want someone who shows me love by letting me into their life comepletely, trusting me, loving me affectionately, and will stand by me no matter what, someone wqho shows love the same way that I do. And some people would not like the way I show love - that's okay, they're just not for me then. I don't think I need to change for anyone and it's fuynny that people say "don't change yourself for a man" and yet if they perceive my behaviors as being ones that men don't like in women [i.e. pursuing a man, sending him flowers, etc] they tell me I need to change...simply amazing....

damn, soory about all of the typos...just woke up, and being blind in one eye doesn't help when you can't see the keyboard properly....

ahhh! more typos!!!

precisely elena....possessive doesn't bother me at all...all I expect is loyalty and stability...I'll be there for you and you be there for me. When I'm in love with someone there is very little I won't tolerate...and you'll know it if I won't tolerate it because I'll be gone.

again xangelfishx..you hit it,,,we tolerate a whole lot..maybe that is why we are so hurt if it ends...see the thing is we dont judge people for who they are..we accept people for who they are,,as long as you are loyal to me as a friend,lover,family then i accept you to a fault.....if i feel that you are not being honest,,i still accept u for who u are but i will not deal with often....and also i dont see anything wrong with sending a man flowers,or any act to make him special...that is truly our nature..to nurture,support and accommidate our lover/man/husbands

yes - I will put up with a lot for someone I love. But I don't see it as being weak or not taking care of my own needs because if I didn't think they were worth it then I wouldn't WANT to put up with it. I don't do anything I don't want to do.

And I really have no problem purusing a man [if he's worth it] because I look at it this way - if I am so special that a man can do things like send me flowers, why is he not as special to me? If I love him then I should consider him as special as I expect him to consider me. Women who say it is a man's job to pursue think they are being independent...when in fact they are setting the women's movement way back....

''It is because you expect a return and with most Taurean women it is a return based on the way you show love.''

I've noticed this side too

that hasn't been my experience.

I can honestly say I've only known one person my entire life who has shown me any level of loyalty and devotion and we've only met in person ONCE. Other people I've known for years and given far too much of my time and energy to and gotten NOTHING in return.

I don't let the fact that people have let me down in the past cause me to take it out on new people who come into my life...I'm just more discerning about who I let into my heart.

LOL@GB. You crack me up 😉

Complete Agreement with Aqualeo.
I might add some knowledge to the Taur/Scorp relationship
It is true these two have many common traits but the key difference is the execution and motive.

Lets look and the need for stability and security
There are two realms at play here.

Action oriented Expression and Emotional, Spiritual Expression

To obtain this "stability and security"

Scorpio desires emotional commitment, they are not concerned much for one's materialistic needs, UNLESS she has Validated her affection to him in NON-Materialistic expression.

IE: Through words of love, simple acts of kindness, Promises of commitment. In essence a Spiritually deeper validation to the relationship, for a Scorpio or any Water Sign for that matter, this is the key to progression on all fronts of the water signs relationships.

Taurus also values emotional commitment, however in my experience they approach their relationships in the opposite more "Defensive" manner. She complains "He does nothing" Does not want to go out. In her eyes, you do something or make me feel secure, then she feels this has validated their relationship. For earth signs this is a common approach.
And after this method is played out, SHE will then feel comfortable to share her feelings.

In my experience I can totally understand why Scorpio might be shifting the relationship into a "Heavy Place" "Commitment".
He could be seeing this method of expression too much and is becoming emotionally agitated. You know the feeling, when you see something so blatantly simple and childish you want to say WTF MAN!

For myself, when I see a woman so blatantly "hold back" her commitment then only open up to Materialistic Shallow exchange, it gives me the feeling as if I were "Buying" her love or her commitment.

Now they say a happy relationship does not ensue without a certain level of "respect"

And for a Scorpio to have to constantly try and get his woman to validate her love or commitment to him in a Spiritual Emotional sense, without the need to constantly spend time or money on her and only to see her put on the Stubborn entitlment of the "I get what I want first and only then I'll validate our relationship" materialistic angle, this attitude CAN BE and IS a very disappointing expression in his mind and heart over the progress of their relationship.

Conclusion = No Respect

Taurus view of respect is simple, don't tell me what to do.
Scorpios are this way too but again most are not looking for materialistic support or exchange, as with Taurus most of them have complete control over their business endeavors they only will pay attention to your security if you take care of the emotional responsibility of the relationship first. Love is not a business.


How can we as individuals get security while being able to RESPECT and truly Feel Loved by one another?
Or does Respect and Love come first before the desire of security is expected on another individual?

And as Aqualeo put it.
Different ways of the expression of Love.

Honestly I prefer Scorpios way, you have nothing to lose committing yourself and spiritually validating your love when asked. In my heart that is not control that is Deep. Cause if he really is an ASSHOLE Scorpio than just let him go.
IF the relationship has no respect then just show some respect for yourself and let him go.
But you must also learn how to give and build respect, the right way.

I feel that if you can learn how each other loves and LOVE spiritually FIRST then you can find REAL LOVE.
And IF you are a TRULY responsible, honest individual you will know that all other priorities in life come after that one expression. Otherwise your just f-ing around.
And if you disagree than you are just a miserable slave-driving self-entitled selfish person.

Emotional responsibility is so important and if you can't handle it then you are not ready to be in a relationship. Just because we are all here on this planet does not mean we can abuse our freedom with each other. So again learn to love respectfully.

And I say these things about Taurus and Scorpios because my lady is a Taurus who used to be with a Scorpio.
And both my parents are Scorps too.

The truth is always covered in security.

PEACE!

you are very much wrong about taurus....we value our possessions...but we provide them to ourselves, and appreciate them when they are given to us by others, but do not expect them. We look for validation emotionally...not "give me what I want" or "take me out"....personally I am perfectly happy to stay home on the couch curled up watching a movie [or better yet in bed 😉 ]and actually prefer it to going anywhere.... and I may need to go back and read again but I don't remmeber her saying anything about her sister expecting him to buy her things in order to move the relationship forward.... I do recall something about wanting to go out - but that may just be her personality...maybe she wants to go out and she has offered to pay but he still says no? some people just enjoy going out and need a partner who enjoys the same things they do....that is not being materialistic....

You have a very negative view of taurean women.... I am nothing like what you describe.

xAngelFishx

Relax, I am not responding to anything "you" said.
I am refering to this statement about the main topic.

****"THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING ON.she has been in a relationship with a scorpio for about 2 months now and he keeps telling her he wants a serious relationship,but they never spend time together shes always complaining about him never calling her as a way of controling her and she HATES to be controled.She says when they spend time together everything is ok but then he just doesnt wanna do anything,and shes the type that hates being in the house she wants to go out to dinner or shopping or clubbing, taurus traits i assume but yea ud think id be more emotional than her but i think my leo side keeps me cool because i tell her why wont u just call him first and she wont says its his job"****

If the view sounds negative then I apologize, and I do not believe that all people act this way, however if her sister has this mindset then I am sure you would agree it would be negative would'nt it.

Again Angelfish, I am only referring to the playbook and what "might" be the problem. While also offering an approach to their relationship that might help things out.

Again what I described above is not about you, its cool, everyone is different.


Loved Shirley Manson in Angelfish, too bad they only made on album.

"Change or the Sun won't Shine"

I didn't assume you were replying to anything I said - but you are expressing a very negative view of taureans and I am one - and I am nothing like what you desccribe. And I also don't see what you describe in this girl's sister...so she doesn't like being controlled...how is that negative? and she said she likes to go out shopping and clubbing....she didn't say she expects him to pay for it all...just said these are things she enjoys doing... and she also that he wants a commited relationship but her sister is expressing that she's not sure about it because of the fact that they don't enjoy similar activities and he is controlling...again I see nothing negative about any of that....I think you are viewing these things in a very odd way....you assume that because she likes to go out she's materialistic and the reason she doesn't want a relationship is because he doesn't buy her things?.... that is an odd conclusion to draw from the statements you copied....

Okay

If not calling someone is controlling them, then I don't understand the logic in that.
How is not calling you controlling you? ....get over yourself and get to the point.

That is his choice. If she does not like it then what can she do about it.

Here's a thought
She can ask him why he is doing that.

And I bet that he will say he wants a commitment.
Is that controlling making sure the relationship is verbally validated?

OH NO I can't say I want a commitment! ...lol

IF he doesn't care about the relationship then he is playing with her and she should let him go. But its funny how he says he wants a commitment, so I don't understand how he could be playing her.

But if he asks her to commit and she plays him by not responding or changing the subject then he has every right not to call and let her go.

Who's playing who?

Like I said motivation and execution is everything.
If your not on the same page then there are going to be problems in the relationship.
They both have a choice.

And I stand by my observations of what Materialism is, I am not just looking at it from her point of view, his is just as valid. It takes two to tango. My judgment is balanced based of the info that was given. Take it or leave it, and if you are offended by my statements, then maybe you see something within yourself that you are not comfortable with.

Only you know how honest you are.

You do not need to prove anything to me.

I don't care if your offended by my observations.

I state it as I see it.

If you have a hard time understanding the multiple dynamics of feelings and responsibility in a relationship then I cant help you.

LOL

Really do you want to understand, or just get offended, its not about you.

Chill out.

I think the whole reason why the sister in question feels that his not calling her is his attempt at controlling her, is through trying to force her into a commitment which she doesn't really feel at the moment because he doesn't enjoy the types of activities she does.

I can understand where the guy is coming from, after all, personally I don't continue to contact and spend time with a girl I'm not interested in, or with a girl I am interested in who doesn't reciprocate the feelings. At the same time, him not calling her is sort of giving an ultimatum: "Either you be my girl or I'm leaving." That can definitely be seen as controlling in a way. I have to admit I can be the same way though. And she's doing the same and saying "You don't do this or that with me." and is avoiding agreeing to a commitment with him.

Perhaps for water signs words are all the reassurance you need but if your actions don't fall in line with your words (ie. calling or doing things that the sister enjoys doing and sharing in those activities with her) then all those words can be seen as just hot air and hold no weight.

You gotta be able to see it from the perspectives of both people and why they're doing what they do.

I don't see where you're drawing your conclusions about a Taurus female's desire/requirement for material goods in exchange for emotional openness from the original post.

Like angelfish said, the sister likes to go out and do things most women in general enjoy doing. Going to eat dinner somewhere, walking around the mall with their guy and maybe buying something they think is nice, or going dancing at a club. Never mentioned anywhere is that she expects him to foot the bill on everything or buy her lots of fancy things.

And it seems like you're generalizing all female Taurus in a negative light as pointed out earlier. You claim to be weighing things from both perspectives then sharing your thoughts, it doesn't exactly seem that way either. Perhaps you're throwing your own feelings into the judgment and siding with a Scorpio's way of seeing things because they're more in-line with yours as opposed to being completely objective and accepting that neither way of going about "love and respect" is correct nor incorrect.

Anyway, it's late as hell and I'm tired and rambling and going off on tangents.

Either way, perhaps you should just point out other perspectives and leave it at that without stating that your philosophy is the "best" view on th

Taurus83

I agree completely on your description of the two individuals feelings.
I agree with you on your expectation of word and action synchronization.

Being Objective.

1. something that one's efforts or actions are intended to attain or accomplish; purpose; goal; target: the objective of a military attack; the objective of a fund-raising drive.

5. not influenced by personal feelings, interpretations, or prejudice; based on facts; unbiased: an objective opinion.

Pertaining to the two subjects:

I see the facts and his goal, commitment to the relationship or no relationship.
What is her goal, other than wanting to go out to dinner, shopping, or clubbing.
Now granted if he NEVER does "anything" with her than he has no right to ask.
But if she just wants to have a good time and expects him to carry on as if everything is hunky-dory, well she is only living HER DREAM.

I believe with the (limited) information put forth about the personalities of these people I came to a fair conclusion.

What is the lesser of two evils?

Everyone gets judged, it helps us become better more matured self conscious people.

Objectively looking at Love and relationships only quantifies matters of action and gain. In my opinion this is a very materialistic way of validating someones care and commitment. I believe it to be quite shallow. If you are truly a responsible individual and can carry your own weight then you will not objectify your relationships.

The only lessons learned in life if you objectify are how many ways you can use one another for material gain, that is it.

Being subjective in love is more a much more richer, deeper experience.
The lessons and experiences in life shared are more spiritual, you will never forget them. Try it sometime, you may be surprised.

Love is not a goal or a possession it is an ability to give and share a feeling naturally on your own or even when asked. Without hesitation.
Like Saying "I love you"

If you want to objectify Love, you will never be satisfied in the experience.

And I will always state and explain philosophies that I believe can shed light on the subject at hand.

I happen to be with a No-nonsense Taurus and we agree on most things and truly share our love and what it means to us. We UNDERSTAND ONE ANOTHER. both objectively and subjectively. We talk for hours even still after 4 years. And no I am not rich and no we don't party. I appreciate a mature individual.

Earth signs in general or more objective towards their partners feelings and I think this is a mistake, especially with a water sign.
They need to show more spiritual faith in the realm of words and innocent unguarded reaction. In all I feel Capricorns has the best understanding of this. I have a couple of Capi buddies that dig how I deal with my relationships.

When one is young you are still trying to sort out the values in life.
Taurus intentions in love are in the right place, but sometimes their goals are quite shallow and need to be matured a bit. Especially in their interpretation of what love is to them. And if they understand what I am saying then great.

Each person has his or her own truths we already know this, the purpose of relationships and love is purely subjective. And to further it more, I believe it must be this way for "Everyone" to have a chance to really feel love. You turn it objective then it becomes the haves and the have not's and then class structure issues arise... heh but that's a whole other lesson.

Taurus not all of you are bad, but not all of you are good.
As goes with any other sign, like myself.

Peace

why do people view taureans as materialistic because we like nice things...i think our tastes may seem extravagent but not materialistic..i purchase things because it is what i like,,not because i am try to show off to anyone...i think our taste seem extravagent because i dont like things that look cheap..i like quality items at a discounted price..i do like to keep it simple..but i like what i like...i think people say we are materialistic because we have an uncanny way of pursing things we want whether it is people or things..because we put our minds to what ever it is we want....as for love..i will never give me true self to a person who can not show he deserves it..the reason being is that i have a lot to offer my mate..and giving me to someone who seems unworthy..is just out of the question for me...see me as a taurus...i give myself at a 100 percent,,if we are in a committed relationship..it is then we are disappointed because we are then taken for granted and mistaken as boring or etc...i think that a lot of men are itimidated because we are independant,able to chase our own dollars,highly sexual and able to be a tomboy,be a lady in public,and a freak at night if you know what i mean..and also let the man be the man-leader of the relationship..we are very traditional women...most men dont come to this realization until its over,,and unfortunately once it is over and the feelins are gone,,we will never see u as relationship prospect again...just my perspective

"Yes...and getting all emotional is not gonna pay the bills."

That's pretty much what I was getting at when I said that actions need to fall in line with words.

You can even say it's immature of water signs to be so dreamy and idealistic about love (I can be, I have a Pisces Moon) because at the end of the day, love isn't gonna put a roof over your head, warm clothes on you during the winter, food on the table, or pay for a good education for the kids if that's one's desire.

Don't get me wrong either. To me, words are just as important as actions because they let another know how you feel and what you're thinking since people aren't mind readers and I, personally, can be a bit secretive in my actions since I don't share with everyone what I'm doing when I'm doing it. Loner personality I suppose.

The information is very limited, and we only get one side of the story if even that. We just were told about things from the sister of the girl in the relationship. Not from the perspective of the one in the relationship or the guy in question.

If anything, you could even say he does desire commitment to the relationship. But he desires it on his terms the way he wants. It could be said he just wants her all to himself cooped up at home all day everyday and refuses to ever go out with her in anyway (which is kinda like me cause I'm a homebody). But that's most likely making misinformed assumptions just like it would be to assume that she only wants to go out and party all the time.

R HOT! Nuff said.

D?j? vu?... I feel like I wrote this before?

😛 YEEeeeeEeeERRRRRR!

wow...mirahz you have got issues.... you make it about ALL taurus women by saying this is how taurus women are...and I am a taurus woman....so that includes me.

And if you're calling it like you're seeing it then you are hallucinating something because you're reading some very strange things into the OP.....

Most of all your assertion that the chick is materialistic..there is nothign - I repeat NOTHING - in the post that shows her to be materialistic...from anyone's point of view including this guy. ONCE AGAIN - there is nothing in the OP that says she expects him to buy her things or spend any kind of money on him at all.... she says she wants someone that enjoys the same things she does [clubbing is materialistic??] and that she feels he is controlling....neither of those things makes her materialistic.

not calling can also be seen as controlling if you look at as "I'm not going to call YOU - YOU are going to call me...essentially beggin for my attention" which is a VERY scorp thing to do.....

you said something about your "lady" being a taurus...I suspect you are projecting some discontent with her onto all taurus women and that is where you are drawing your conlusions from....

Taurus35 and Elena, this guy's not going to get it - he obviously has deep issues with taurus women...

at any rate, yeah, we like nice things...but that doesn't mean we're materialistic...I don't have to have things and buy things...BUT when I do buy something I do at least want to get something of quality...I don't waste my money on cheap things that will fall apart....and since I work hard and make good money I have every right to spend it on what I want to. Now I have venus in pisces...so I am by ALL means an idealistic dreamer and romatic....but I can afford to be [figuratively and literally] because I am capable of taking care of myself, and others as well when necessary.

You said it when you said we can be a tomboy, feminine etc... taurus women are EVERY woman...we can be it all and do it all...and I suppose that IS intimidating... but like you said, eventually they realize what they lost...of course it's also true that by then it's too late!

There's often so much controversy around the most simplistic and obvious things [like the nature of a taurus woman] because people just can't believe that what they're seeing is really what's there....so they try to dig up what they perceive to be the truth...for example mirahz's insiisting that this girl is materialistic...

Sorry...you can't find what's not there....

AAAAAMEN! b^^

Preach it xAngelfishx
I was going to chime in, but your last post was damn near what I was going to write.