What happened to my Taurus?

I go to work next day and all of a sudden Vanessa is acting so fake. I thought maybe its because I didn't respond a second time to her message. Anyway she and Nal are spending every min next each other...and they even followed me around and talked in front of me. I was avoiding them doing my work they were insisting on being in my face I took it as they were SHOWING me how tight they were. That's how I understood this action. They were sharing, saying each others names helping each other, and all doing this in front of someone who is ignoring them doing their work. If I was with a friend I would NOT deliberately talk in front of someone who wasn't responding I mean really. I finally had ENOUGH it just hit me like a brick. And Nal came over and started provoking me by standing in my way so I walked away in the other direction. What does Vanessa say? "Go ahead be mad." I looked up at Vanessa who was gossiping with Nal and her image changed in that instance. I didn't recognize her anymore. She was all of a sudden a moody gossiping woman who hated everything. She literally seemed to take on Nals behavior. And I couldn't take it anymore. I walked away and I still cant look at her. The Vanessa I knew, the one I fell in love with was generous LOVED people not complained about them. Was caring and loved life, always happy and Positive. Always had a plan. The world was hers. Not gossiping and bashing and complaining and laughing at the way a customer slouches. I don't get it. She wasn't like this.

I think that's why I was in a panic about "losing" her. I felt she was changing and I didn't like who she became.

And then today at work Nal isn't there. Its just Vanessa me and a couple others.She wears the earrings I gave her for her birthday and makes sure to stand where I can see this. I never initiated conversation. She stayed quiet too. But I saw out of the corner of my eye her staring at me. She started to get loud as if trying to get my attention at first. I didn't budge I continued doing what I was doing. She asked me about something at that needed loading I answered I was polite. But I never said anything about myself. She then sort of retreated she went In the break room and just stayed in there. I went in the break room on my break and she was watching something on her ipad. Se started singing out load to a song and the other guy in the room was bothered obviously. But she then looked up at me and I looked out the window. ate my lunch and left. She then got so quiet. And that was that. Im still her friend and id still be there for her but like I said I don't think she sees that as of right now. I need space and lots of it before I can even look at her again.I wasn't sure why she did that today. If anyone can tell me why that'd be great. because her behavior has turned foreign to me.

^^^^^^I had posted this in a recent thread in regards to Libras.^^^^

Airfive, pay close attention to the 'Cons.'

Pushy.
Indecisive.
Neurotic
Pacifier.

Posted by airfive
Someone on here told me , and I cant remember who sorry, that I needed to remove myself from the situation and her true colors would come out. Of course I didn't listen. And now it had to get to this point.

You were being too neurotic and pushy in regards to this other friend. You simply couldn't let it go. Bulls vouch for the people in their inner circle. They're given the hoof stamp of approval. It's just the way it is. If the 'friend' decided to disclose their true intentions, a disingenuous agenda, it would happen naturally without your interference. We would dismiss them and feel no way about it. Trust & loyalty means everything to us.

You were attempting to control the situation, with the hopes of controlling the outcome.

[Insert pestering Libra]

Neurotic + Pushy = Disaster.

Now you created an entire set of drama that now includes you.

Sounds like Nal's strong personality rubbed off on her, even if only temporarily. People become more easily influenced by 'their circle' when under stress.

Libras are known, rather stereotypically, for being able to see both sides of a situation at the same time, and therefore agree with both. So the 'side' that does the most pushing and prodding causes the most stress, until Libra finally manages to right himself and take a stand somewhere... perhaps only temporarily, as he can still see the 'rightness' of the 'other' side. Various non-Librans see this scenario in various ways.

Well, imagine that Vanessa saw you and Nal as opposing sides of the situation (her close pals in life). Nal pushed against you, through her. You pushed against Nal, through her. By talking to her about Nal without Nal's presence, you were in fact pushing 'through her'. Even if gently. Even if softly, from your perspective. Even if the intentions were supposed to be helpful. To her, both sides were pushing at her, and she eventually righted herself and took a stand by Nal. Possibly even for such a small reason as both being female. Who knows? Does it matter? She had to right herself somewhere in order to sort herself out.

And as you well know, it may take time for her to sort it. But her solution may be to keep BOTH, forevermore.

I've actually had two close Libras tell me not to ever bother arguing with them, because they "will win" no matter what. I'm Scorpio Sun; polar-opposite and yet complementary-similar to Taurus Sun. Personally, that statement was HECKUVA ANNOYING. It came across as a demeaning challenge, even if that wad NOT the INTENT. She may have had a strong dislike for you correcting her through typing. It may have reminded her of other times she wasn't allowed to win an argument of any sort. You're better off finding some common ground to agree on, rather than making sure to have your point spelled out. Even if that seems counter-intuitive. It literally helps people to see you in a better light, and be more open to listen. Not necessarily able to be persuaded (it's not meant for manipulation), just willing to listen.

When we can see people as we'd see ourselves, when we can understand where they're coming from...

You don't have to avoid her so much and be entirely unable to look at her. You could tell her, "I'm hurting from what's happened, but I'm not ready to talk about it. Because I don't want 'my hurt' to hurt you."

If it's true? Honesty.

"People become more easily influenced by 'their circle' when under stress.

Well, imagine that Vanessa saw you and Nal as opposing sides of the situation (her close pals in life). Nal pushed against you, through her. You pushed against Nal, through her. By talking to her about Nal without Nal's presence, you were in fact pushing 'through her'. Even if gently. Even if softly, from your perspective. Even if the intentions were supposed to be helpful. To her, both sides were pushing at her, and she eventually righted herself and took a stand by Nal. Possibly even for such a small reason as both being female. Who knows? Does it matter? She had to right herself somewhere in order to sort herself out.

And as you well know, it may take time for her to sort it. But her solution may be to keep BOTH, forevermore.

When we can see people as we'd see ourselves, when we can understand where they're coming from...

You don't have to avoid her so much and be entirely unable to look at her. You could tell her, "I'm hurting from what's happened, but I'm not ready to talk about it. Because I don't want 'my hurt' to hurt you."

If it's true? Honesty "



This is exactly how I feel, the reason im avoiding her, it is because I don't want "my hurt to hurt her" maybe its my Scorpio Venus as to why your response made so much sense to me. I should tell her this. I personally wasn't looking to "win" the issue. The whole situation just really hurt. But the way you put it made sense. I didn't realize her position. She kind of has it hard. But that's why I didn't correct her a second time in the message. I saw she was beyond reasoning and seemed to want to fight with me or probably just frustrated more like. and to continue correcting is pointless plus I didn't WANT to fight I wanted to show her what I actually meant not show her up. But shes under to much pressure and I think she's in a pretty bad spot really. Having to juggle us both..your right when "we see people as we see ourselves" it just makes logical sense. I wont be seeing her for three days so far and I thought to just leave her be for a while..let her breath..might be the best option for now...

@Taurusbull1977 thnx for your Taurus perspective

Posted by airfive

Posted by Draumstafir

To her, both sides were pushing at her, and she eventually righted herself and took a stand by Nal. Possibly even for such a small reason as both being female. Who knows? Does it matter? She had to right herself somewhere in order to sort herself out.

When we can see people as we'd see ourselves, when we can understand where they're coming from...

You don't have to avoid her so much and be entirely unable to look at her. You could tell her, "I'm hurting from what's happened, but I'm not ready to talk about it. Because I don't want 'my hurt' to hurt you."

If it's true? Honesty.

This is exactly how I feel, the reason im avoiding her, it is because I don't want "my hurt to hurt her" maybe its my Scorpio Venus as to why your response made so much sense to me. I should tell her this. I personally wasn't looking to "win" the issue. The whole situation just really hurt. But the way you put it made sense. I didn't realize her position. She kind of has it hard. But that's why I didn't correct her a second time in the message. I saw she was beyond reasoning [...] Having to juggle us both..your right when "we see people as we see ourselves" it just makes logical sense. I wont be seeing her for three days so far and I thought to just leave her be for a while..let her breath..might be the best option for now...

Oh my gosh! I hadn't realized you were all three female (according to your profile). My very bad. Thankfully you didn't seem to notice (or be offended) 😆.

Yeah, 3 days would be enough time to cool down. You'll be calmer in your approach, which is good, because emotional lock-up doesn't do anybody any good. Dunno if you're prone to that or not.

Posted by TaurusBull1977
You were attempting to control the situation, with the hopes of controlling the outcome.

Now you created an entire set of drama that now includes you.

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That makes sense with Scorp Venus. Be sure to use whatever intuition you have only to see things from her perspective, never to manipulate. Stop and take stock sometimes, to find when you do it. Save manipulation for enemies, and never for loved ones. 😉 Even then, keep it for light-hearted entertainment purposes only.

I heard this song on the radio and its been playing in my head ever since...I really feel this way..how can one song sum up emotions...