lisabeth
@lisabethur8
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Posted by LittleStarthat's actually awesome.
I never felt self conscious about my body. I did care about what people thought a lot. But just about me, not my looks.
I care less than ever and am happier than ever.






Posted by libraqueenbut you are lovely the way you are 😢
Yes I do, partially the reason I used to be anorexic and I am now EDNOS.
Posted by MsTeeq1974that's really fantastic, MsTeeq. I feel kind of proud of you. lol
Interesting subject. I was skinny for about 30 years and went through a rough break up, gained weight and now I'm a bigger woman and have been for 11 years. So all in all, I was a grown skinny woman for about 11 years and now a grown "fat" woman for 11 years. I will take the person I've evolved into now over any other "me" and no matter if I'm fat or skinny over the next 11 years, I'll still love the skin I'm in. In regards to attraction, I've had guys who don't even prefer fat women want to do anything from bone me to be my man. I think it's truly about who you are on the inside. For the record, I've not had many problems with men. In fact, for the most part, my dating experiences for the past 5 years have been amazing. It's just been perspective as far as whether or not I'm getting what I want personally.
Do I care about my "image". Yes, I care that I'm representing my truest self according to my values. End of story.
Posted by libraqueen😢 are you in a relationship now? and if so, does your man love you for who you are? Do you feel that if you gained weight you would not be loved?
Yes I do, partially the reason I used to be anorexic and I am now EDNOS.
Posted by scorpiothebadasslol my husband knows he's handsome and magnetic too.
Of course i have a million $ faceclick to expand
Posted by degenerate_ingenueht
hmm...I think I will answer because my answer is a little weird.
I am very self-aware sometimes, but it depends. I go to work or school looking like I just rose from the dead and I could care less. My hair will be awry and I'm like "yea ok who am I trying to impress". But when I am going to the city or going out with friends and going out in public for a good time THEN I will be like "oh god what do I wear? I need makeup, wow, I look like a train wreck right now. This needs to be fixed."
I also have Venus in the first house...though I have no idea what that means. I'm going to look it up now out of curiosity. Thanks.
As for self-image....I would add on to my self-aware statement earlier by saying being so thin has always made me notice that most people are not. As in...most people have shape etc. It did add more self-conscious vibes and I always wanted more shape because of it. Now there is that "movement" where women with more curves are desired and skinny ones are not. Well...there are some people who can't help being so small, so why do people have to make big statements like that at all? Who CARES what someone's size is? It has been increasingly difficult I suppose in that aspect because I know I will never be of "average" size or curvy. I take after my mother who has the same wrist size as me currently....so in other words...it's permanent for me lol.
The last guy I was seeing always called me skinny and would comment on it, and I would laugh it off at first, but he said it one too many times (who constantly brings that up- come on now) and I went on a tirade about how I'm fine the way I am and I like myself being this size and it's not gonna change LOL.
Overall I obviously accept myself because I enjoy how I am and who I am, but it is very annoying how men and society place these standards out there for women because we should be able to live our lives without having other factors haunt us. I think it makes me and most likely others very self-aware. (Plus my moon is in Virgo so I'm self-aware to the max). There is no such thing as being undesirable, because there will always be someone who desires you for being you, me for being me, and I think that this should be the mentality of everyone. I know eventually someone will accept me for being scrawny ol me.
Posted by elllei think we are (women) mostly self conscious about what we look like to the opposite sex. Alot of that comes from what the opposite sex thinks of us growing up.
I have saturn in the 8th house and moon in my 6th.
This is notorious for 'body issues'......even if there might not be any of real substance. I have felt it since puberty.
My answer is no to image, I don't really pay attention to what other people think of me....especially physically.
....and yes to body image issues. Nothing is ever good enough for me. I don't necessarily care what others think about my body shape or size, but *I* care and it often holds me back....or I *feel* it holds me back from enjoying things that I should be able to enjoy comfortably.
I always am working towards that day when I can be as free as I see other people being. It's unlikely I'll ever get there. Because like I said earlier, nothing is ever good enough for me.
I KNOW I'm not so weirdly shaped that people look at me and think things (there are days that I think I look very nice).....but I STILL am weird about it.
I mostly keep it to myself....and I thank the heavens that I didn't have daughters because I would surely screwed them up, in that respect. lol
Posted by elllei'm also well proportioned. lol
the thing that is so weird is I am proportioned well.....and that screws with my head....."If I just do this" or "If I just do that"....is ALWAYS present in my mind.
it's not like I don't have anything to work with.
I feel bad for people who have those weird kind of shapes that no matter what they do.....well, they can't really do anything.
...but then I see them doing things that I wish I could do.....and it just frustrates me.
Posted by ellleoh that's not good imo. My mother and grandmothers come from a very conservative family line, both sides actually.
my father was a scorpio with an aqua moon....and I can tell you honestly, he never really did anything to damage my self image or to give me a bad body image.
my mother, on the other hand (gemini).....we fought all the time because I was much more conservative in my appearance then she wanted me to be. She geared towards more provocative, attention getting attire and behaviour than I was comfortable with. Even if I had the body of a stripper or a ballet dancer....I still wouldn't wear that kind of stuff or allow myself to come off as too provocative, especially in public.
that's not really where I was going when I said "things I should be able to enjoy comfortably".....something as simple as wearing shorts or capris....I won't do it because I don't feel comfortable in it.
Team sports.....not gonna do that either.
Posted by busyeyes88lol my husband has leo. He has HONESTLY told me, some things about even how he chooses women 😆
Yes. As a Leo rising and leo moon I am very much aware of my image and my surrounding image. And my image is extremely important to me and could even be classed as borderline vanity but I cannot help that as people naturally notice me without me even trying. My S/o has got to be attractive too.
I used to be a UK 6 in my early 20s and at 49 I am a UK 14. People still think I am 35 when they see me. I have always tried to exercise and eat a healthy diet. I have a constant beauty regime and would not be seen dead without a bit of blush and lip gloss even going down to the local paper shop which is only 5 mins from where I live. All my clothes are colour coordinated with matching Lulu Guinness designer handbags and matching shoes to match the handbag and lip gloss to also match. My nicknames are "glamour puss" and "Betty Boop"!
Unfortunately I would like to be less image based, but ever since a youngster people draw towards me, they will even approach me out of nowhere and talk to me. So even if I want to go "unseen" I am always seen so I have no choice but to be impeccably maintained all the time!!
It does make me feel good though. But I have to confess that it is hard for a woman in this society. We are always under pressure to be perfect all the time regardless of age. When I was growing up there was an advert on British TV which sums it up:
"keep young and beautiful
It's your duty to be beautiful
Keep young and beautiful if you want to be loved"
Posted by ellleoh i'm glad you're sharing 😄
I hate sharing these things because they always come out wrong 😐
Posted by ellleGrace Kelly is very very beautiful, and a classic beauty. My grandmothers, aunts, and my mother love her too!!! her and classic beauties.
well, my mother had nine siblings, all raised together....and her leo sister is just the opposite. Fortunately, the leo sister raised me the latter part of my teens.
I prefer someone like Grace Kelly over Anna Nicole Smith (my mother's favourite).....lol
My mother always thought that was 'boring'.
Posted by elllei hope what i shared didnt come out wrong either. -_-
I hate sharing these things because they always come out wrong 😐

Posted by lisabethur8Oh yes this is interesting. Very true in fact. In fact, people will admit their admiration occasionally and I will be taken aback and even shy away. It is daunting sometimes. I like the admiration, but I also find it exhausting if it is someone I just want to be friends with. I don't want to hurt their feelings. In regards to age this is very relevant. At work, I have quite a few admirers, though most of them are just my friends. Their ages range from 21-29, ethnicities vary, personalities vary. Each person is unique. I draw no specific type. ALTHOUGH, upon taking an astro class regarding natal charts, mine shows that I attract/get involved with cruel men, which is also true. Why? I don't know. Maybe my Mars in Sag has influence here. I like the dark, strange man who has a lot to say and interesting ideas with a twist, but I want him to have a good heart...a rare find. Normally my finds are dark and hold really interesting conversations but missing a good heart.
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http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/venusinhouses.html
well you would have no problem getting a man in real life, for sure. Infact you would have ALOT of admirers, and NEVER lack.
do you feel you never lack in that department??
like if you just go anywhere, men everywhere no matter what age, status, like you?? How are you like in real life and your experiences. That should tell you how you are.
Posted by elllei can kind of relate. This is very Aries. It's internal. And you don't mean to be hurtful, but it comes out that way because you are only thinking of "you" and not the "other"
Maybe I can explain better with a personal story......
During my first divorce, I couldn't afford an attorney, so I had to represent myself. For our final court hearing, I had purchased the nicest (that I could afford) navy pencil skirt, matching fitted blazer and pumps If I couldn't hire attorney, the game plan was to at least look like one 😛
I had to go into work that day because the hearing was in the middle of the day (and I couldn't afford to take off the entire day).
My coworker, who was morbidly obese and had just gone through gastro bypass surgery, commented to me when I walked in the office that morning...."Wow, you are my goal. If I can only look like that someday, I will be happy for the rest of my life."
I literally looked at her like she had three heads.
She immediately got quiet and said..."No, that will never happen. I'm sorry for even thinking it."
OMG...I FELT SO HORRIBLE!
I was NOT looking at her like that because she was overweight and could never have a nice body!!!!!!!!!!!
....and now it was all awkward and weird and there wasn't anything I could say to make the situation any better 😢
I was looking at her because I was thinking....
Why the hell would you want to look like me?
Do you realise I just went through an hour long anxiety attack before leaving the house in this skirt?
lol
Then I was pissed at myself for upsetting her AND thinking that way about myself.
Posted by degenerate_ingenuePosted by lisabethur8Oh yes this is interesting. Very true in fact. In fact, people will admit their admiration occasionally and I will be taken aback and even shy away. It is daunting sometimes. I like the admiration, but I also find it exhausting if it is someone I just want to be friends with. I don't want to hurt their feelings. In regards to age this is very relevant. At work, I have quite a few admirers, though most of them are just my friends. Their ages range from 21-29, ethnicities vary, personalities vary. Each person is unique. I draw no specific type. ALTHOUGH, upon taking an astro class regarding natal charts, mine shows that I attract/get involved with cruel men, which is also true. Why? I don't know. Maybe my Mars in Sag has influence here. I like the dark, strange man who has a lot to say and interesting ideas with a twist, but I want him to have a good heart...a rare find. Normally my finds are dark and hold really interesting conversations but missing a good heart.
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http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/venusinhouses.html
well you would have no problem getting a man in real life, for sure. Infact you would have ALOT of admirers, and NEVER lack.
do you feel you never lack in that department??
like if you just go anywhere, men everywhere no matter what age, status, like you?? How are you like in real life and your experiences. That should tell you how you are.
I'm going off on a tangent that has nothing to do with the original topic lol. I'll stop myself now before I get too crazy. I found this link too!
https://vestalyn.wordpress.com/2014/01/22/venus-in-the-1st-house/<div class="bqfade">click to expand
Posted by elllethat's true.
I've also come to the conclusion a long time ago...that no matter what you look like, people are going to find flaws because everyone has their own definition of 'beauty'.
Personally, I think Angelina Jolie, Jennifer Aniston, Kate Winslet and Amanda Seyfried are absolutely gorgeous....but I have friends that have picked each of them apart and concluded they were ugly. lol
Posted by degenerate_ingenuePosted by lisabethur8Oh yes this is interesting. Very true in fact. In fact, people will admit their admiration occasionally and I will be taken aback and even shy away. It is daunting sometimes. I like the admiration, but I also find it exhausting if it is someone I just want to be friends with. I don't want to hurt their feelings. In regards to age this is very relevant. At work, I have quite a few admirers, though most of them are just my friends. Their ages range from 21-29, ethnicities vary, personalities vary. Each person is unique. I draw no specific type. ALTHOUGH, upon taking an astro class regarding natal charts, mine shows that I attract/get involved with cruel men, which is also true. Why? I don't know. Maybe my Mars in Sag has influence here. I like the dark, strange man who has a lot to say and interesting ideas with a twist, but I want him to have a good heart...a rare find. Normally my finds are dark and hold really interesting conversations but missing a good heart.
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http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/venusinhouses.html
well you would have no problem getting a man in real life, for sure. Infact you would have ALOT of admirers, and NEVER lack.
do you feel you never lack in that department??
like if you just go anywhere, men everywhere no matter what age, status, like you?? How are you like in real life and your experiences. That should tell you how you are.
I'm going off on a tangent that has nothing to do with the original topic lol. I'll stop myself now before I get too crazy. I found this link too!
https://vestalyn.wordpress.com/2014/01/22/venus-in-the-1st-house/<div class="bqfade">click to expand

Posted by lisabethur8Hmm I definitely thought it was, but I guess it is actually my Mars squaring my Saturn. I thought Venus had an effect but I guess not. Luckily my Venus has no hard aspects with most of my placements ePosted by degenerate_ingenuei forget to add that in the link. i notice how she/he said that what house your venus is in is stronger.Posted by lisabethur8Oh yes this is interesting. Very true in fact. In fact, people will admit their admiration occasionally and I will be taken aback and even shy away. It is daunting sometimes. I like the admiration, but I also find it exhausting if it is someone I just want to be friends with. I don't want to hurt their feelings. In regards to age this is very relevant. At work, I have quite a few admirers, though most of them are just my friends. Their ages range from 21-29, ethnicities vary, personalities vary. Each person is unique. I draw no specific type. ALTHOUGH, upon taking an astro class regarding natal charts, mine shows that I attract/get involved with cruel men, which is also true. Why? I don't know. Maybe my Mars in Sag has influence here. I like the dark, strange man who has a lot to say and interesting ideas with a twist, but I want him to have a good heart...a rare find. Normally my finds are dark and hold really interesting conversations but missing a good heart.
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http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/venusinhouses.html
well you would have no problem getting a man in real life, for sure. Infact you would have ALOT of admirers, and NEVER lack.
do you feel you never lack in that department??
like if you just go anywhere, men everywhere no matter what age, status, like you?? How are you like in real life and your experiences. That should tell you how you are.
I'm going off on a tangent that has nothing to do with the original topic lol. I'll stop myself now before I get too crazy. I found this link too!
https://vestalyn.wordpress.com/2014/01/22/venus-in-the-1st-house/
I dont know where that class said you are attracted or find cruel men? 😕 Is that more the effect of first house venus??click to expand


Posted by RumiLoveVenus in 10th...like a dream. What you have in tenth is who you really are...
I think no matter what shape or size u are, there will be men who'll like you.
Liking a person goes beyond the lines of her body.
Personally, I do care. I don't follow latest trends but my sole concern is to look decent and neat(I'm more conservative in my dressing). Regarding body...i wont go into details but I do go for jogging, for helping my poor health!
Regarding hair...i always wear a ponytail. Somehow I hate to be seen with my hair down unless I have to leave immediately after I wash my hair, I pull it back and hold it in a tiny butterfly clip. Sometimes a french plait.
Make-up --- I only put lipstick occasionally. Usually use a chapstick or sometimes the classic Vaseline does it for me! Butter oil too makes our lips soft. Anyway, for face or skin, I do use homemade remedies(packs, scrubs etc).
Somewhere I have always been concerned with wearing well-tailored clothes(not figure hugging but neatly tailored.. Yanno, that perfect fit that wont hug your body and show your lines?) . And looking NEAT. I also go for lotsa pastel colors, mild floral work, lacey designs, flowing look.
My Venus is in 10 house..so yeah. The need to look "neat"...TBH even I cannot explain it myself.
I get told I'm too conservative than required by some people including my mother...but I cant seem to get myself to change my style.
Posted by dontgetmewrongyou are so happy go Lucky though.
I have capricorn in 10th. I care about my image bc I am constantly trying to be better than I was. I wasn't born in a barn either so yes, I want to put my best food forward. I also have a dgaf side as well though. I like to look nice, I want to be smarter about something than I was yesterday, constantly evolving in one way or another even if it's in a small way.

Posted by RumiLoveVenus in pisces? Thats a good placement, pisces love to party, venus do too, the association of the two is very positive. And its your public image too. How people really perceive you.
^^^really? 😄 ...in 10 house, ie midheaven, I have Pisces :/
Can you elaborate bricklemark, please?? What house is your Venus placed in btw? 🙂
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anyway, alot of society places alot of pressure in women to look a certain way, and gives them a kind of inferiority complex if they are very hourly glass figure.
i really like this blog from this woman, who titles:
https://emmatheemo.wordpress.com/2013/09/05/men-will-love-you-because-of-your-looks-even-if-youre-ugly/
quote:
"When such women do get a man to fall in love with them, perhaps they think they’ve found someone who loves them “for them”… Yes, for them, their delusional beliefs about human nature, competitive personality and “confidence”.
My dad once told me something funny. When I was a teenager, I was a bit crazy and told my dad “Hey, if I become fat, will all the creepy shallow men ignore me? Will the guy who falls for me then, love me for me?”
And I drew a picture of a fat girl, how I wanted to look like. It looked kind of like this girl at her fattest, or slightly less fat."