AH HELL NO!!!

OMG! Okay, I HAVE to calm myself down.

Back-story:

Virgo recently moved back in with his parents until the end of September. He used to live by himself. When he got laid he made arrangements to move into a 2 bedroom with his friend. His friend??s lease will not be up until the end of September. So, he moved into his parent's house for two moths to save money until him and his friend move in together.

Fast forwarding:

So, this weekend I had a wonderful time with the Virgo. I went to church with him on Saturday and we ended up spending the night at his parent's ranch house, because we went to a party that was five minutes from his parent's house and over an hour from where we both live. We did not end up leaving the party until about 3AM. His mother invited us to spend the night. I felt a little uncomfortable but I knew realistically that it was the best thing to do b/c we were both very tired. I slept in his room b/c his parents were doing some remodeling to the guest room and he slept in the guest room.

Now onto where it gets real sticky. When we first got to his parent's house, he went into the room and cleaned it up. I went into his room and noticed a picture on his dresser. It was a 5x7 (I think) picture with maybe four smaller pictures of him and a woman. It said —Happy Birthday?? in the right hand corner. One of the pictures had the girl by herself with her chest out. I asked him about the picture. I jokingly said to him, gesh you could have put up the pic with you another girl and he said why would I do that when it is a family member. I left it alone.

Today, I was on Facebook (aka —the Devil??) and I noticed that the picture is NOT of him and a family member. It is a picture of him and an ex girlfriend who he dated when he lived in Louisville KT. I am so very mad. I am for several reasons I am mad that he lied to me. I am mad that he did not have enough respect to take the dang picture down before I went in there and I am mad that he still has the pic up to begin with. I do not think that they are still together. With any other guy I would think that maybe he is still with her and have a long distance relationship. But my gut does not tell me that. I just don't get that feeling. But I do not understand why he did not take the pic down. He obviously is not over her!!!

The flip side to this is that we are not official. We have been dating for almost 2 months and decided that we were going to date each other exclusively. He has expressed to me that he wants a relationship with me and has done things to show me this. For example, he has introduces me to his parents, taken me to church with him, etc which are all very sacred to him. I know that b/c we are not officially; together I cannot blow up completely. However, I think it is disrespectful. Furthermore, why does he STILL have the freaking pic up if he is over this chick— Why is he forging a relationship with me if he is not over this broad— And Why did he not have enough respect for me to take the bloody pic down!?!? OMG.

I am upset over this!

Hikoro, girl thank you for reeling me back in. Lol. You are right. I can't lie. I got jealous and hurt. Hurt that he would still have the pic up and then lie. I did not call him about it yet bc I wanted calm down before I brought it up. This kind of stuff is so hard to deal with especially for a scorp who is trying to keep her cool and not be possessive and jealous. Ahhh.... its hard. But ur right. I'm jumping to conclusions. But my feelings are hurt....

Aw, bella! Thank you!

Posted by natural25

The flip side to this is that we are not official. We have been dating for almost 2 months and decided that we were going to date each other exclusively. He has expressed to me that he wants a relationship with me and has done things to show me this. For example, he has introduces me to his parents, taken me to church with him, etc which are all very sacred to him. I know that b/c we are not officially; together I cannot blow up completely. However, I think it is disrespectful. Furthermore, why does he STILL have the freaking pic up if he is over this chick— Why is he forging a relationship with me if he is not over this broad— And Why did he not have enough respect for me to take the bloody pic down!?!? OMG.

I am upset over this!

You should be upset, I would be outraged. From my point of view, it would be different if the pic was of him and friend who happen to be a girl, that I can deal with without a worry because I have guy friends so its whatever for me.

But this was an ex girlfriend and he lied to you about it. Why? You two are dating exclusively. Why lie now? Nope, I don't think I like it.

Posted by hikoro
Wow....

Calm down chica. Calm down.

You have been to church with him, you have met his parents, you went on a trip together. What else do you want?

Yes, he was not honest but maybe he did not want to upset you with the truth.
Maybe they are still friends? If not, then why does it bother you so much especially when he is showing the world that he is WITH YOU.
Unless, unless.....you are being insecure, possessive and jealous.

And if you continue acting like this, trust me, you are going to push him away.

And no, you are wrong. Not being official does not mean that the person has to tolerate things that bothers him or her, so if you want to, you can voice it to him. But not like this at all. Be honest with him, try to learn the reason he has that picture instead of jumping into conclusions.

I already told you that virgos are not suspicious like scorpios. He may have that picture just because.
On the other hand, your suspicious mind is already wondering about trust, fidelity, possessiveness, etc.

What bothers me about this situation is that the man has been good to you and now, he has done one tiny thing that bothers you and instead of you looking at the big picture and at all of the wonderful things he has done for you, you are know portraying him as the "bad guy" due to something very trivial.

The man is struggling financially, he has many stresses in his mind. Try to be his friend, not his judge.

Oh crap! hikoro, has a point again ... LOL! I can be a bit of a hot head about that kind of stuff too. I guess its because I'm open about my buddies and what not and who I have dated. The only time I stop being so open is if the person gets jealous and I feel I can't tell them as much anymore. So ... I don't know.

However, I still understand why you are upset. Don't lie to me, just tell me she's your ex-girlfriend. I mean, for crying out loud, how old are we? lol, if he was going to lie, I'd prefer that he not say anything.

Posted by hikoro
"However, I still understand why you are upset. Don't lie to me, just tell me she's your ex-girlfriend."

I understand this too. I guess that for me, it was important to calm her down and think about the situation via a different angle before talking about it with him. I say this because as a scorpio, I know how hot-headed/blinded we can be....trust me, you don't want to see an angry scorpio woman.

Thus, I recommend all scorpios to calm down before talking, otherwise we are more likely to say/do regretful things to people we care about.

Another thing, I know it seems I downplayed the situation but it is not the first time that Natural overreacts like this (no offense chica) but if this is the way she is portraying himself with him, then this may be the reason he lied to her.
It is not an excuse but......a man is more likely to be deceiving if a) he is hiding something or b) he feels he can't be honest out of fear that the woman is going to get very angry at him or c) he is not thinking.

Virgos can blurt things that make you think: huh?

Natural

Would you please do me a favor?

I want to know both of your moon signs, venus, mars, mercury, pluto, saturn and rising signs.

Thanks.

Oh no, I didn't think you down-played the situation at all. You just gave a different angle. You see, my mars in Aqua-Pisces, can get me emotional -- only when it comes to a guy in my life, not about much else really. And I will get outrage and throw everything out if I think he's doing something behind my back. I'm like, if you don't mean any good to me, then leave me alone, why did you even bother? Did you need someone to bring down or what?

I just said I completely understand why she was mad because I totally would have reacted like that. I'm not a good person to deal with once I I feel my heart's been hurt.

Posted by hikoro
"Natural

Would you please do me a favor?

I want to know both of your moon signs, venus, mars, mercury, pluto, saturn and rising signs.

Thanks.

Me:
Moon: one site said I was Libra another site said I was Virgo
Venus: Sag
Mars: virgo
Mercury: Libra
Pluto: Libra
Saturn: Libra
Neptune: Sag

Him:
Moon: Capricorn
Venus: virgo
Mars: Cancer
Mercury: Leo
PlutoL: Libra
Saturn: Virgo
Neptune: Sag

See Cappy you and I are a lot alike. When I first found this out yesterday my top completely blew!

I have not talked to him about it yet. Last night, I had class and went to bed. He called me but I was asleep when he called and did not hear the phone ring. So, I suppose I will talk to him about it today. I just need to make sure that I remain calm and do not put him on the defense.

Btw, Hikoro, what do you think about the sign info that I gave you above.

Thanks Hikoro. I will go on astro.com and see whats up. . . .

From the looks of it we are not very compatible. 😢

It's settled. My moon sign is in Libra. Lol.

So, do all of the other signs have a larger impact than a person's sun sign?

Yes, natural -- we are alot alot emotionally it seems. My moon isn't in libra but Aquarius. I have a libra rising.

And yes, there are other things to factor in as well, like the moon, venus, mars and even jupiter.

Opps. I meant it the other way around. I meant to ask if the moon, venus, mars (etc.) Signs play a larger role than the sun sign?

Funny, cappysweetie has many planets in Aquarius which blend well with your Libra planets. So, both of you should understand each other well.

haha, thats funny. We just referenced that not too long ago ^_^.

Well things are definitely NOT looking good!

Last night him & I spoke on the phone. I asked him about the picture. I explained to him that I just wanted to understand why he did not feel comfortable to tell me the truth. We went back and forth for a bit about it. He finally told me that it is a girl that he used to date who is several years younger than him. they were not compatible b/c of maturity level and age and ever since he has been like a big brother to her. He got a little defensive and said that he would not be stupid enough to keep the picture up if he was still dating her and then he said "I see you have been busy". Then I told him that I was not accusing him of still dating her and I did not think that was the case and that I was simply asking to avoid any false assumptions on my part. I told him that if it were the other way around he would probably wonder the same thing and ask me what was up and that he would have every right to do so. So, that was that. We went on to make small talk. He told me that he had a ojb interviewtoday at 11AM and I congratulated him and told him how wonderful that was.

We then began to talk about his birthday that is ocming up on Spet 2nd. He had planned a bbq for labor day wkend as a way to celebrate. Last night, he told me that it was not going to happen b/c people were low on cash and going to be out of town on labor day wkend. He sounded a little disappointed and I told him that i wanted to do something nice for him. He said no it is okay (still sounding a little pitiful). And then he said in a joking manner (at least i think he was joking) we will see about that. and then laughed.

We got off of the phone and about 20 mins later. When we got off of the phone I sent his best friend a message on Facebook saying the following:

Hi,
I am Jason's friend Maia. As you know, Jason's birthday is coming up. I know he planned to have a bbq for his bday, but he told me tonight that it probably won't happen because everyone is low on cash. I wanted for him to have fun and have an enjoyable 30th bday. I was thinking about finding a way to still have the bbq the Sunday before labor day or maybe have all of his friends meet up at a nice restaurant for dinner.

I want to see what your thoughts are about it and see if you would like to help me organize something. Maybe, we can brainstorming ideas and you can help by inviting his friends.

Btw, it would be terrific if maybe we could make this a suprise for him. What do you think?

Thanks,
Maia

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So, this morning when i got into work I thought it would be nice to send him a message via facebook, b/c his cell phone is not working and tell him good luck on his interview today. Well??_..he has freakin de-friended me from his faceboook page! Who does this—? What are we 16 years old? This came as a complete shock to me b/c I never thought that he would be the type to do something like this. Is he mad that I contacted his friend to do something nice for him for his bday? Is it about the stupid pic? Wth? I sent him a message saying that I went on here to wish him good luck and noticed that he had de-friended me and asked what was going on.

I am at work trying to hold it together. This is the deal. I really do like and care about him and want this to work out. This really hurts my feelings. The only thing that I can think is that he is done with me. Why else would he do this?? I was thinking about sending him another message expressing to him my apologies if I stepped on his toes and that I have not tried to do anything to offend him. I want him to know that I truly do not want ANYTHING for him but the absolute best.

What do you guys think? This is really bad

I spoke with virgo last night. Without going into the whole convo, I realize that I need to calm down. He was never mad. The whole defriend thing was a joke related to a convo that we had last wk that I forgot about. He did not even about the message that I sent his bestfriend. I assumed he did. Yesterday around 5 he asked to be my friend on fb again with a msg talking about the joke. I did not see this until this morn. Basically, like the crazy scorp I am, I made all this up in my head. I have learned my lesson.