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Ha! I didn't even make it an hour and I've thought of something to ask for advice on.

Here goes...when a Virgo guy is in full-on grouch mode and working non-stop is it better to be understanding and try to sympathize or is it better to leave it alone and find ways to distract? It seems as if it is impossible to get my virgo out of his work mindset when he is in the midst of one of his big projects. Because his work takes over his whole existence it seems like an obvious conversation topic. However, I can never tell if he wants to talk about it. Help! Advice needed on how to keep his interest when he is in all out Virgo/Bachelor/Workaholic/Consumed/NoTimeToEvenThinkAboutYou Mode.

Thanks.

WWWOOOOOOAAAHHH branh! You totally misread my post!

I don't mind at all that he works a lot. I don't expect to see him or demand any of his time. All I was asking was, when I do see him, would he appreciate support and discussion about work or would he rather be distracted by other conversation.

I'm not complaining - I'm just saying that when he gets the way all Virgos do (and you know you do, you've said it in your own posts) it's hard to tell what he needs.

Wow. Sorry.

Y is it so difficult to engage in simple conversation.?. i think maybe some lack the intellect it takes to connect emotions and thoughts into something meaningful to talk about.. This stil gives no excuse for mindless games

Why are you completely misreading everything! It is NOT ABOUT ME!!!!!!

Let me be very clear....when a Virgo is stressed out...what does HE need/want from those close to him? Of course I will ASK him, I'm not stupid, I just thought I would ask you all for some suggestions.

OOOOOOOOOOh.. in that case..

SPACE as much as u can muster til u figure it out

no but..Relationships are different for everyone honestly..Generalities made here on DXP shood be taken with a grain of salt
At the end of the day nothin beats gut feelins
if not... ASK HIM

lol..muster's a funny word..LMAO

I have noticed that Virgo Males seem to always tell you what THEY think you need to hear but not what really is. Just my thought

yea..that was pretty much THE description brandon.. bravo 😉

virgosgirl, don't make this more complicated than it needs to be. If he has been working a lot and he starts talking about work, then listen. Unless you get tired of hearing about it, then change the subject gracefully. You don't need to try to make yourself feel a certain way for his benefit. If he says something that makes you empathize with him or chaches your interest, ask questions to find out more about what is going on. If you are with him and you are wondering what you should be doing, you're already making a mistake. Wake up! Pay attention! Experience the moment, don't analyze it! Otherwise he is going to think you are mentally balancing your checkbook or something.

branh:

What I meant about Virgo Male telling you what THEY think you need to hear has nothing to do with honesty on their part. Oh, I do definately want honesty. What I was saying is that they tell you what they think is best for you to hear and leave out some details. I know they don't like to talk about mushy stuff all the time. I have just noticed with the Virgo's that I have dealt with that they like to tell you about entertaining things to make themselves look cool or attractive and it is very superficial crap which is Ok to BS about but it's not who they really are. I know they are well gaurded on their feelings just like I have been for years and go figure, I allowed my feelings to open up to a Virguy and I got hurt. I know us Sags can pick ourselves up kind of quickly but this one I'm having a hard time with. He told me he wants to do this with me and that with me (which was in long range plans) but then shuts you out and doesn't want a relationship. So, why would they make plans with you about future things (That they brought up, not me) and then blow you off like you were never in a relationship in the first place. (This is what I mean by them telling you what They think you want to hear). I told him when we met that I was more of a relationship type girl and so, from my point of view, I think he told me what he thought I wanted to hear and in reality, I wanted him to tell me the truth and then maybe I wouldn't be so emotionaly screwed up right now. I do think he really liked me and I still think he does but I don't believe he will allow himself the chance to love because he is afraid to get hurt.

Virgo-Virgo Rising told me he didn't want to be de-grumped. he usually wanted to be left alone.

I despise being degrumped..not just a Virgoan trait

branh he is very insecure from what I can tell. No, I am not desperate to settle down because if that was the case, I have had a lot of people to pick from. I'm not saying I'm gorgeous or anything but I have no problem meeting men. I do have strong feelings for him though. If I just wanted to settle down with anyone I could have already done that. I had experience feelings for this Virguy that I haven't experienced in over 10 years with anyone and I just don't understand and probably never will, when I finally felt the way I did with him and how he seemed to cherrish me and then, Nothing. His friends told me he was scared because he was getting too close. Well, that happens to all of us but some of us want to be happy and some are afraid to be happy. I always see the good in people and I try to help them see it too even when they are feeling down on themselves. I may be wasting a lot of time feeling this way but we can't control our feelings but we can control our reactions and that is what I will do. I plan on leaving him alone and I hope he finds happiness but, I will always care about him and I probably do love him but I have never told him that. I'm the type of person that when I love someone I will love them deeply because that doesn't come around too often.

ohh..sweetheart..i think weve met before on this subject.. its surreal how i read ur posts n i wood have written the same words wen it comes to my experience with Virgo male.. how can they try to get us to the point of serious relationship n then just drop us on the face.. well thats wat mine did.. as a sagg.. it was a bit bruising to my ego but i can admit it.. i dont know wat happened. probably will never find out.. y with his reluctance to even discuss it with me.. as if i already know.. i dunno.. these virgos.. truly enigmatic