He's got a GIRLFRIEND?!

So I get a missed call from this same guy I have been pining over for the last 3 years.... Jesus (yeah I should move on, believe me I've tried and did move on - then I went back to square one)... the second missed call this week after I sent him an innocent "how are you?" text last week (as I haven't seen him since February). He never calls me... never. So I'm thinking, "ooh. Finally - maybe he wants to hook up". Seeing as we had so much fun in the past (the whole history of it is on here).

So I call him back and a GIRL answers the phone. I'm surprised and after a few confused hello? hello's? I ask if he's there, She passes the phone over and he says Hi, how are you? and then "My girlfriend's standing in front of me and she's got the hump. She found the message you sent last week. I just wanted to make the point that "I"M NOT CHEATING ON HER!" Then he apologized. I said "look, this ain't my problem, bye."

As soon as he said the word girlfriend I was in shock. I know it sounds naive, but for as long as I've known him he's not had one. In a way I feel relieved. At least the situation has CHANGED. After 3 years, I know it's ridiculous but I haven't met anyone who made me forget him, even though I came close to emigrating with someone else after a whirlwind romance... but that's another story.

This girl sounds really young, obviously insecure and I just can't understand what is going on. why is he with her when he could be with me— I don't get the feeling it's a serious relationship. I'm not really concerned about it, just more confused that I got a call at all. getting me involved.

I may even tell him how I feel now, because with him being in a relationship, I can't really get rejected can I? But at least he'll know.
Just had to write this down on here. I'm in shock.

I know how this reads, but I'm sure there is more to it than 'he's just not into me, he's with someone else, forget it.'

Usually I'm not the type to brood over anything and I am very practical, if something ain't working for me I move on, but there is something about him and me that keeps me hooked. My instincts tell me he likes me, you just feel that don't you? but now he is with someone else... I dunno. I've heard about guys going out with girls they are not really crazy about whilst they have feelings for someone else but they just admire them from afar, because they are scared. or is that something we tell ourselves to make us feel better?

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I guess I am thinking that this is a significant development and I should act on it. It's about time I got an answer/closure. So should I call him up tomorrow and ask WTF? and let him know that I found it quite upsetting to get dragged into his domestic and just come clean about my feelings? I want to move on, though I think this is a soul connection and unless you have been thru it then it can't be compared to a conventional connection. that is why I am behaving so irrationally over what on paper looks like I am just some nutty obsessed woman!

*shakes head*

OMG! Whats WRONG with them men!

I'm sorry I'm glad to be single at the moment because I don't think I could understand nor could I take such nonsense ....

It is nonsense....best to just be honest with women even if they think it would hurt her. Better to be honest and hurt than lied to and hurt.

Exactly, virgo or not! lol, its just disturbing how people are acting in relationships :O

considering that the v-guy /p-girl bond is so strong I'd say he will never find someone who will make him feel the same, just as you didn't.

that said I will have to say that virgo usually have vengeful tendencies even if you never wronged him, to him it is someone else's fault at some level and he must "show" them that they didn't triumpth over him, so by calling you he is saying "hello there I have this young thing in my life now, i am not interested in you anymore, and i just called to rub your face in it"

there is no doubt he still have feelings for you but this is his way of escaping the thought, getting himself busy with other young flesh because he knows this is what will hurt you most. just as you know how to hurt him most by "pretending" that you don't care.

none of you is happy and this whole thing can get on a down spiral very quickly ... not good unless you have no careers or lives outside these games ... teenagers

I found that one of the two must have the courage to step up and call the other one on their games, I know it's almost hard for both of you to do that when you are face to face, I know it is for me and my girl

best thing is to write, email or text being frank and open and in the same time calling him on his behaviour he will realise it if he still loves you and then he will come clean and the dots are finally put on the confusing manuscript that is the pisces/virgo epic, the rosetta stone if you will, ancient mysteries revealed for mankind to ravel in, new dimensions for the mind to travel in, no doubt newer mysteries will spring from deep within

sorry ... caffeine

correction: when I said "strong" I meant to say "deep"

It isn't about the sex, in fact the only consolation is that not being with him I can get better sex. The connection was never sexual, sure I fancy him, but he's just a great kisser. The sex isn't all that tbh. I know how it reads and I would say exactly the same thing if I were you, I even say it to myself, but this niggling feeling i get of just knowing there is something unspoken between us... time scale has nothing to do with it, months can pass by sure, but this thing is still there. I feel it, whose to say he doesn't? It's possible he's just a coward. My hunches are rarely wrong... but I'm trying to get over it. But if I can't then I just have to live with it. I want to meet someone else but I can't get closure on this. I need to tell him how I feel, but I don't have his email and now I know his gf reads his texts... there is no way for me to get this out. I think when you really like someone you have to tell them, even if you know nothing can come of it. Otherwise you'll carry it with you forever.
Yeah I probably do need therapy, but I can't afford it. :O

I am a loser, I know this. Everyone thinks the opposite ironically enough. relationships just seem to elude me. Even though I initially attract a lot of people, i can't seem to get a proper relationship off the ground. The older I get the harder it will be, which is scary. Sod it, I've had enough, I can do better. I need to set my sights higher. He's not all that at all... just virgo got me! Seems to me if his gf is paranoid about a perfectly innocent text (which is was) then that is a sure sign that that is how I would feel if I was in her position and I can't deal with that. Lucky escape I think.

Ha, I tried that. Wanted to get to know someone as a friend, he was pursuing me but he lost interest after I chose not to sleep with him!

I think I am coming across the wrong way. I haven't had sex for months! I'm not even interested. I am too obsessed with furthering my art career. men will always come second to that. Sometimes I just feel like I am missing out on the relationship side, coz society places so much emphasis on coupling off. but really I don't think about it too much, just occassionally things happen that highlight my lack of meaningful experience with the opposite sex. I'm fine honestly. I love being single.

yeah that's it in a nutshell. tragic innit?

it's called drugging yourself piscesdreamer, convincing yourself that you can do without any form of relationship works until you reach a certain level/age and then you will find that your life has passed and you haven't acheived a lot on term of personal acheivements ( family, kids etc ).

i'm not saying you have to conform to this standard but if this is truly what you want than you better act on it rather than expect it to happen, no pressure sweetheart but also no complete let go, hold the stick from the middle