I don't know what I want

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So Virgo guy I was dating came back into town...I was hoping for the best, expecting the worst. We've gone out several times, and had fun. The other night we got into a conversation about "us" and basically he said that he doesn't know what he wants from me. Honestly, had he said "I never want to see you again," that would have been easier for me to take. I'm one step away from cutting him off entirely, although I really do care for him, and I know how hard this will be.

So the question is: when a Virgo guy says "I don't know what I want" what the heck does that mean—!!! Some insight would be appreciated. Thank you.
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Expecting the worse?

Why does a person have to know precisley how they feel? People aren't allowed to be unsure of their feelings?

He doens't know what he wants right now ....

Are those words ^^^^^^^^^ in a hidden text and they only appear in english to me and him? Why do you understand english, but, not those words?




It sounds to me like there is nothing wrong with him, he is just unsure of how he feels ... however, it does sound like you have expectations in which he isn't satisfying for you. Because seriously, you asked, "what the heck does that mean—!!! So, if you don't know what, "guy says "I don't know what I want", means ... then it's because you are expecting of him.
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I don't think it's anywhere near being offbase.



"I'm one step away from cutting him off entirely, although I really do care for him"


That ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ is the Scorpio way. They project onto the person this great big huge fondness for the other with intentions of drawing the person into them, only to then make it known that they are on the verge of cutting them loose ... this is done for the sole purpose of attempting to get the other person to jump through hoops in terms of conveying to the Scorpio how much they are wanted/adored and valuable.


It's that simple. Scorpios think they are mysterious .. in reality, they are manipulators. It's just that Virgo's loved to be adored, so this usually escapes their awareness of truth about the Scorpion.



For the most part, a Virgo has absolutely no clue that they are being played by the Scorpio, which in reality, makes them a perfect match. Normally, even in the end of a relationship, the Virgo doesn't know they've been played, for the Scorpio has the ability to lead them to believe that the Scorp is just too complicated for the simple Virgo.


Anyway, that's kind of off topic ....... but, also very much on topic, since this is all about her saying she's one step away from parting, while in the same breath proclaiming care for him.
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I was also thinking that by him saying "he doesn't know what he wants" he really means "i'm just not that into you" 😢 He admitted to me that he has been acting detached, because he has a lot going on in his life with work etc... I wasn't sure if he was pulling the Virgo guy thing of retreating into his man-cave space, needing to sort out what he wants to do, and he'll come back to me eventually? Or if he's straight up not interested....
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What we have here is ordinary for the Scorpio ...... this game.



To make him "think" or "believe" that he is loved, oh so much .... then make the assertion that the door is standing open and feet are ready to walk through this open door .... is all a part of the manipuation to get the other to bend over backwards in keeping the prize.

The prize being the Scorpio, obviously, since it's this person who just exalted the Virgo.



Elementary, actually ... why people think Scorpios are mysterious is beyond me ... it's all about ego and nothing more.




And it's quite obvious here .............. she proclaims great care for the man, while saying she's ready to bail on him.
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Posted by ScorpieGrl
I was also thinking that by him saying "he doesn't know what he wants" he really means "i'm just not that into you" 😢 He admitted to me that he has been acting detached, because he has a lot going on in his life with work etc... I wasn't sure if he was pulling the Virgo guy thing of retreating into his man-cave space, needing to sort out what he wants to do, and he'll come back to me eventually? Or if he's straight up not interested....






Of course that's what you are going to say that you think it means ..... because you certainly cannot have him being unsure of how he feels about you being so wonderful because then how are you suppose to be able to snare him with the Scorpio game?
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P-Angel,

I really do care for this guy, the thing is I will not be strung along either. Being a Scorpio, we feel things intensely. I also have a Scorp Venus and a Leo Mars. It is overwhelming for me at times in a relationship. If I HAD to cut him off, it wouldn't be because I don't care for him, it would be for my own health and well-being. I can make myself sick - physically/emotionally if I were to let him string me along. This is why I like to know where I stand with ppl. It's not about manipulating, it's about my own well-being.
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"If I HAD to cut him off, it wouldn't be because I don't care for him"



Of course.


And also, it's an "of course" to say this while it's not even time to .. because he never stated that he doesn't want to be with you, he merely stated that he is unsure of how he feels.


And for a person to be unsure of how he feels isn't anywhere near being in a timeframe for you to think you might HAVE to cut him off.



For the fact that you even said that in your justification to my assertions is evidence of it's existence within you to manipulate him with this very play.




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I think you shouldn't concern yourself with whatever setbacks he has had in life ... you should only concern yourself with whether he gives YOU the attention you need.



If he doesn't forgo his own life-problems for you, then what's the point in even trying?

You shouldn't ..... because that might be too considerate on your part to have understood that he was dealing with life-issues and this is why he chose to be left alone for a while.


Sounds like he is one of the few that won't be played .... I would suggest moving on to one who can be.
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How long have you been seeing him?

After 3 months if he's still saying he's unsure....he is not that into you

You do have options:

You can date him, have fun and date other men whilst he figures it out for himself which alleviates pressure and the killer "death talk" I tell you that talk will get a woman dumped real fast and keep a man in I'm not sure mode or you can walk away for your own health if he's not going to go out of his way to add happiness to your life and give you what you deserve

This is a timing issue, timing plays a huge part and NO it's not stress and work like all these other lame excuses some women make for men, if a man value a woman he WILL MAKE TIME no matter what's going on in his life.
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I'm not sure is a stalling technique...ladies have to realize that a man has to be sure, there is nothing anyone can say or do to help a man with that kind of issue, no amount of time, fun, sex spent together is going to HELP him be sure.

Most men, even teenage boys know that women are not just dating to date, they are looking for the ONE, she wants to move forward (that needy vibe creates pressure)

most women want the girlfriend title and the status that comes with being a girlfriend, theirs the marriage status, theirs the moving in together status, the women want something tangible and significant or they feel a man is wasting her time, I am not saying all men but most of them just want to be were they are RIGHT NOW, they don't want to be forced or pushed to reveal feelings nor to reveal future plans and even if he reveals those feelings and plans that doesn't mean he wants it with that particular woman, a man has to DECIDE if he's going to move forward, stall or leave and that takes time to figure out, while he figures it out DON'T PANIC, if you can be still and chill out it could be a favorable outcome but if you get all needy and desperate and impatient he will feel that pressure and let you go or allow you the space to dump him.

I suggest you relax or find another man that is ready to move forward with you, this one is not ready, he's completely content have fun and having sex (if your having sex). Stop giving him ALL of you if he's not ready because your investing your time and energy and heart in a man that isn't sure about you which equals disappointment and heartache.
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Posted by tiki33
I'm not sure is a stalling technique...ladies have to realize that a man has to be sure, there is nothing anyone can say or do to help a man with that kind of issue, no amount of time, fun, sex spent together is going to HELP him be sure.

Most men, even teenage boys know that women are not just dating to date, they are looking for the ONE, she wants to move forward (that needy vibe creates pressure)

most women want the girlfriend title and the status that comes with being a girlfriend, theirs the marriage status, theirs the moving in together status, the women want something tangible and significant or they feel a man is wasting her time, I am not saying all men but most of them just want to be were they are RIGHT NOW, they don't want to be forced or pushed to reveal feelings nor to reveal future plans and even if he reveals those feelings and plans that doesn't mean he wants it with that particular woman, a man has to DECIDE if he's going to move forward, stall or leave and that takes time to figure out, while he figures it out DON'T PANIC, if you can be still and chill out it could be a favorable outcome but if you get all needy and desperate and impatient he will feel that pressure and let you go or allow you the space to dump him.

I suggest you relax or find another man that is ready to move forward with you, this one is not ready, he's completely content have fun and having sex (if your having sex). Stop giving him ALL of you if he's not ready because your investing your time and energy and heart in a man that isn't sure about you which equals disappointment and heartache.




Damn tiki i love your style tell it how it is just like me ur an aqua right i have alot of air placements we should get married you will be the coolest wife ever lol
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PATIENCE is the key to a Virgo man.

He's probably still analyzing your relationship whether it's going to work or not. Virgo man takes time to decide because there's A LOT of analyzing involved in every decisions we make in life. We look at every possible outcome in both party not just ourselves. We don't like hurting others or ourselves in the process. Once we make up our mind, you'll be the first know. mmmkay 😄
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Imo,and please don't take this wrong...it shows a little pride issue or self esteem issue on your part.we all want to think we are wonderful and we want everyone else to see that right away and if someone is unsure.....that means they did not immediately fall head over heels in love with our wonderfulness.it's a blow to the ego for some of us.
I have not had coffee yet,and may be way of base,if so....scusilo.



I agree completely. I have suffered from the same egocentric type of thought. Not a bad thing...human nature for a lot of ppl. Just becasue WE know that we are fabulous does not mean that the other person knows it YET. Just continue to be fabulous and he will find out! If it is meant to be, it will. 🙂
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Posted by tiki33
I'm not sure is a stalling technique...ladies have to realize that a man has to be sure, there is nothing anyone can say or do to help a man with that kind of issue, no amount of time, fun, sex spent together is going to HELP him be sure.

Most men, even teenage boys know that women are not just dating to date, they are looking for the ONE, she wants to move forward (that needy vibe creates pressure)

most women want the girlfriend title and the status that comes with being a girlfriend, theirs the marriage status, theirs the moving in together status, the women want something tangible and significant or they feel a man is wasting her time, I am not saying all men but most of them just want to be were they are RIGHT NOW, they don't want to be forced or pushed to reveal feelings nor to reveal future plans and even if he reveals those feelings and plans that doesn't mean he wants it with that particular woman, a man has to DECIDE if he's going to move forward, stall or leave and that takes time to figure out, while he figures it out DON'T PANIC, if you can be still and chill out it could be a favorable outcome but if you get all needy and desperate and impatient he will feel that pressure and let you go or allow you the space to dump him.

I suggest you relax or find another man that is ready to move forward with you, this one is not ready, he's completely content have fun and having sex (if your having sex). Stop giving him ALL of you if he's not ready because your investing your time and energy and heart in a man that isn't sure about you which equals disappointment and heartache.



I agree 1000% ! I have learned this valuable lesson the hard way!
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Posted by tiki33
I'm not sure is a stalling technique...ladies have to realize that a man has to be sure, there is nothing anyone can say or do to help a man with that kind of issue, no amount of time, fun, sex spent together is going to HELP him be sure.

Most men, even teenage boys know that women are not just dating to date, they are looking for the ONE, she wants to move forward (that needy vibe creates pressure)

most women want the girlfriend title and the status that comes with being a girlfriend, theirs the marriage status, theirs the moving in together status, the women want something tangible and significant or they feel a man is wasting her time, I am not saying all men but most of them just want to be were they are RIGHT NOW, they don't want to be forced or pushed to reveal feelings nor to reveal future plans and even if he reveals those feelings and plans that doesn't mean he wants it with that particular woman, a man has to DECIDE if he's going to move forward, stall or leave and that takes time to figure out, while he figures it out DON'T PANIC, if you can be still and chill out it could be a favorable outcome but if you get all needy and desperate and impatient he will feel that pressure and let you go or allow you the space to dump him.

I suggest you relax or find another man that is ready to move forward with you, this one is not ready, he's completely content have fun and having sex (if your having sex). Stop giving him ALL of you if he's not ready because your investing your time and energy and heart in a man that isn't sure about you which equals disappointment and heartache.




Damn tiki i love your style tell it how it is just like me ur an aqua right i have alot of air placements we should get married you will be the coolest wife ever lol
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LMFAO!

Yeah I'm an Aqua
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I'm not sure is a stalling technique...ladies have to realize that a man has to be sure, there is nothing anyone can say or do to help a man with that kind of issue, no amount of time, fun, sex spent together is going to HELP him be sure.

Most men, even teenage boys know that women are not just dating to date, they are looking for the ONE, she wants to move forward (that needy vibe creates pressure)

most women want the girlfriend title and the status that comes with being a girlfriend, theirs the marriage status, theirs the moving in together status, the women want something tangible and significant or they feel a man is wasting her time, I am not saying all men but most of them just want to be were they are RIGHT NOW, they don't want to be forced or pushed to reveal feelings nor to reveal future plans and even if he reveals those feelings and plans that doesn't mean he wants it with that particular woman, a man has to DECIDE if he's going to move forward, stall or leave and that takes time to figure out, while he figures it out DON'T PANIC, if you can be still and chill out it could be a favorable outcome but if you get all needy and desperate and impatient he will feel that pressure and let you go or allow you the space to dump him.

I suggest you relax or find another man that is ready to move forward with you, this one is not ready, he's completely content have fun and having sex (if your having sex). Stop giving him ALL of you if he's not ready because your investing your time and energy and heart in a man that isn't sure about you which equals disappointment and heartache.




Damn tiki i love your style tell it how it is just like me ur an aqua right i have alot of air placements we should get married you will be the coolest wife ever lol



LMFAO!

Yeah I'm an Aqua
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jumps for joy lol

i also have a aqua rising
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I suspect that this is an even that has been progressing for some time ..... we heard about this man several weeks ago, and he had to leave for the West Coast and had some personal issues to tend to.

She wasn't able to leave him be and began to contact him when he told her he needed his space to deal with his issues.

Then, she cyber stalked him on his facebook .. that is, if I remember all this correctly.


So, I would also suspect that he has taken all this into consideration ... and is not exactly pleased that he wasn't permitted the space he needed to get his shit straight.