The virgin and the whore

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This was inspired by a post in my other thread, and will mostly pertain to the girls, but anyone can contribute. Virgos, in many sites, have been said to be one of the few signs that can be virginal while being a whore at the same time. I always laughed at this, and have agreed, but I really think this is true (at least for myself). Having become sexually active in the last year or so, I admitted to my best friend that I felt a sort of divide that eventually kept me a virgin for a bit of time even when I wanted to have sex. I told her that I felt I was battling two different sides of me: the sort of classy, virginal side, and the whorish that literally wanted to fuck everything that walked, no matter the time of day. She told me that a lot of it could come from being perceived as whorish and that I shouldn't care about what people think since it's my body and my life. While that is part of it, I told her that a lot of it had to do with myself; imagine talking to someone who is trying very hard to flirt with you and get in your pants; you know you want nothing to do with this person, but you find yourself flirting back anyway and eventually you become aroused. However, there is a voice inside your head that suddenly goes "what are you doing? stop it." It's sort of like that. Sex is something that I've always been completely into (even wheen I wasn't having it), but I always felt this small fear of a loss of control (although, it's not so much an issue now) when desiring it.

Now, have any other virgo girls (or girls in general) experienced this before in their life?
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Also, "Sextrology" has some of my favorite passages on the sexual paradox of the Virgo woman. It basically says that we are the embodiment of the "Madonna-Whore" complex and this alone confuses men but because we embody both characters so equally and naturally, men have no other choice but to reconcile us as being both (paraphrasing here).

It also talks about how we can easily inspire a man to lust and want to protect us all at once. For a man to want to marry us and keep us safe, but to have sex with us is like making him feel like he's littering in the Grand Canyon. In other words, we make them feel guilty for wanting to be all dirty with/doing the nasty with us.
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"imagine talking to someone who is trying very hard to flirt with you and get in your pants; you know you want nothing to do with this person, but you find yourself flirting back anyway and eventually you become aroused. However, there is a voice inside your head that suddenly goes "what are you doing? stop it." It's sort of like that. "

Yea, it's called "morals" and "self respect"......

which imho, aren't exclusive to any sign. you either have them or you don't.
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Also, "Sextrology" has some of my favorite passages on the sexual paradox of the Virgo woman. It basically says that we are the embodiment of the "Madonna-Whore" complex and this alone confuses men but because we embody both characters so equally and naturally, men have no other choice but to reconcile us as being both (paraphrasing here).

It also talks about how we can easily inspire a man to lust and want to protect us all at once. For a man to want to marry us and keep us safe, but to have sex with us is like making him feel like he's littering in the Grand Canyon. In other words, we make them feel guilty for wanting to be all dirty with/doing the nasty with us.



Lol, if they feel guilty, then that makes me laugh. Because I'd totally want them to take advantage of that feeling (not the guilty one, wanting to do dirty things to us one).

And I suppose the balancing of morals and self-respect is a good way to put it. I already know I can balance being a classy girl in public, but a complete whore when the doors are closed. I think it was more about when I'm not with someone that the battle becomes more clear. When I'm with a guy I couldn't care less and I'm very happy to pull him into the bedroom against his will. 😛
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I've always been very open-minded about sex, but didn't lose my virginity until my late teens.

I thought that was gonna start the flood of promiscuity in me from all the pent up anger and frustration I had harbored over the years, but nope. After my first (a Pisces) and I parted I was abstinent for about 6-7 years before I started dating my Cancer guy. After that, it was probably a year apart between guys, and over the past few years nothing serious, just my Taurus lover that I see when we can find the time.

I like how each saw me though--as Virginal-seeming. The Cancer told me he LOVED cumming for me, because "there's so much wonder in your eyes! You're always so amazed about it, like it's your first time! It's such a turn-on!"

I like knowing that no guy I'm with truly knows how down and dirty I can get, LOL. I'll save that for the future hubby, if there is one. I'm still very shy about sex (physically), but once I'm comfortable with my partner it's on. I'm not afraid to ask for what I like, and I will always take note of what drives him wild.

Best quote ever from an ex: "Everytime we make love, I feel like I'm corrupting you. I see that babyface bobbing up and down, stare down at it in ecstasy, and I feel like I need to go to confessional at church..."

LOL.
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Interesting, C. "corruption". Perfect word since most men seem to think that's what they're doing when they get us in the sack. It's our ever youthful looks and air of naievete. We should have been built with fountains around us so that those who want to remain youthful can just walk up to the virgin and drink. LOL. Every 'virgin' I know looks at least 10 or more years younger than they really are anyway.
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I've always been very open-minded about sex, but didn't lose my virginity until my late teens.

I thought that was gonna start the flood of promiscuity in me from all the pent up anger and frustration I had harbored over the years, but nope. After my first (a Pisces) and I parted I was abstinent for about 6-7 years before I started dating my Cancer guy. After that, it was probably a year apart between guys, and over the past few years nothing serious, just my Taurus lover that I see when we can find the time.

I like how each saw me though--as Virginal-seeming. The Cancer told me he LOVED cumming for me, because "there's so much wonder in your eyes! You're always so amazed about it, like it's your first time! It's such a turn-on!"

I like knowing that no guy I'm with truly knows how down and dirty I can get, LOL. I'll save that for the future hubby, if there is one. I'm still very shy about sex (physically), but once I'm comfortable with my partner it's on. I'm not afraid to ask for what I like, and I will always take note of what drives him wild.

Best quote ever from an ex: "Everytime we make love, I feel like I'm corrupting you. I see that babyface bobbing up and down, stare down at it in ecstasy, and I feel like I need to go to confessional at church..."

LOL.



Why can't a guy say that to me? Hahahaha.

Actually I've had experiences like that before. A lot of guys are fairly surprised by what I can do (this doesn't pertain to actual sex, but sexual things). I pick up on things pretty easily after going it over in my head. But, I'm also still fairly shy when it comes to sex up until I'm comfortable enough to do it with the guy. I'm especially shy when it comes to new things only because I have to understand the mechanics of it first before I can actually do it. A few guys find it endearing I think.

What I find even more funny is, when I was a virgin, most guys were very surprised. Ironically, when I was willing to do something, guys treated me like I was a virgin, asking me questions, asking me if this feels okay, ect. I would look at them strangely and say, "I know I'm a virgin, but I'm not a prude..." Lol, the look on their faces was a little priceless. I can tell that they want to just completely go crazy, but they want to be gentle, as if every time, they are deflowering a virgin. It's actually very interesting.
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Oh God do they--I've been told (by friends, ex's, lovers, etc.) that it is such a f'n turn on to teach a girl how to do things to please them--BUT, I've ALSO heard that they don't want to have to teach a Virgin (I think it's a guilt thing); like "sure, I'll show you how to deepthroat me without gagging...but not if I'm your first co.ck" =))

I like aggressive guys, because I can try to be dominant with them and they smirk at me, and pinch my cheeks like "awwww, look at you trying to be grown! Awww, I'ma let you think you got this...but when I'm ready to cum I'm flipping us over, holding both your wrists with one hand, and using the other to force you to look into my eyes while I make you tell me who you belong to..."

Lawdhavehismercy I'm getting turned on at work...

WOOOOOOO

(O_O)
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I like aggressive guys, because I can try to be dominant with them and they smirk at me, and pinch my cheeks like "awwww, look at you trying to be grown! Awww, I'ma let you think you got this...but when I'm ready to cum I'm flipping us over, holding both your wrists with one hand, and using the other to force you to look into my eyes while I make you tell me who you belong to..."

Lawdhavehismercy I'm getting turned on at work...

WOOOOOOO

(O_O)



oh my gawwwwd... stop it. >_
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I've always been very open-minded about sex, but didn't lose my virginity until my late teens.

I thought that was gonna start the flood of promiscuity in me from all the pent up anger and frustration I had harbored over the years, but nope. After my first (a Pisces) and I parted I was abstinent for about 6-7 years before I started dating my Cancer guy. After that, it was probably a year apart between guys, and over the past few years nothing serious, just my Taurus lover that I see when we can find the time.

I like how each saw me though--as Virginal-seeming. The Cancer told me he LOVED cumming for me, because "there's so much wonder in your eyes! You're always so amazed about it, like it's your first time! It's such a turn-on!"

I like knowing that no guy I'm with truly knows how down and dirty I can get, LOL. I'll save that for the future hubby, if there is one. I'm still very shy about sex (physically), but once I'm comfortable with my partner it's on. I'm not afraid to ask for what I like, and I will always take note of what drives him wild.

Best quote ever from an ex: "Everytime we make love, I feel like I'm corrupting you. I see that babyface bobbing up and down, stare down at it in ecstasy, and I feel like I need to go to confessional at church..."

LOL.
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Why can't a guy say that to me? Hahahaha.

Actually I've had experiences like that before. A lot of guys are fairly surprised by what I can do (this doesn't pertain to actual sex, but sexual things). I pick up on things pretty easily after going it over in my head.

Pick up things in your head...for the Virgo female, "Sextrology" calls that "sexual intelligence".

But, I'm also still fairly shy when it comes to sex up until I'm comfortable enough to do it with the guy. I'm especially shy when it comes to new things only because I have to understand the mechanics of it first before I can actually do it. A few guys find it endearing I think.

What I find even more funny is, when I was a virgin, most guys were very surprised. Ironically, when I was willing to do something, guys treated me like I was a virgin, asking me questions, asking me if this feels okay, ect. I would look at them strangely and say, "I know I'm a virgin, but I'm not a prude..." Lol, the look on their faces was a lit
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I like aggressive guys, because I can try to be dominant with them and they smirk at me, and pinch my cheeks like "awwww, look at you trying to be grown! Awww, I'ma let you think you got this...but when I'm ready to cum I'm flipping us over, holding both your wrists with one hand, and using the other to force you to look into my eyes while I make you tell me who you belong to..."

Lawdhavehismercy I'm getting turned on at work...

WOOOOOOO

(O_O)
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oh my gawwwwd... stop it. >_

I can't even put into words what I'm going through right now. I'm spending my bday with my Taurus guy, and he ALSO wants to see me on Sat. beforehand. I'm like "dude, let me work...don't do this to me..." and he's sending the worst kinda messages, f'n me all up right now while I'm tryna concentrate...all TYPES of awful sh.it...dear God...

I'ma need to regulate when we meet up.

Regulate = give in, and hope I can walk after, LOL

I aint even gonna front, LOL!!!
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I can't even put into words what I'm going through right now. I'm spending my bday with my Taurus guy, and he ALSO wants to see me on Sat. beforehand. I'm like "dude, let me work...don't do this to me..." and he's sending the worst kinda messages, f'n me all up right now while I'm tryna concentrate...all TYPES of awful sh.it...dear God...

I'ma need to regulate when we meet up.

Regulate = give in, and hope I can walk after, LOL

I aint even gonna front, LOL!!!
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Hahahaha oh goodness...

*goes off into a corner and gets into a fetal position*

Damn the cancer guy I was seeing for moving to Brooklyn (or in the process of moving). I am now on another manhunt. But you know, that's going to be a bit. lol
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I know how that goes...we can't get comfortable with just anyone, the whole f'buddy/meet up at a bar go home 3 minutes later/meet up in the club take a taxi back to his place within the hour thing is not our style .

With this guy, he read me so well, and was so patient that when we finally decided it was time...well, we were both sore for about 3 days.

I moved further out into the 'burbs, now about an hour away from him, and urged him to find another lover--but he clung to the hopes we'd make it work, waited for a YEAR for me!!! Man, when I finally saw him again this year, I couldn't stop hugging and kissing him. What he does to/for/with me? Yeah, I can't imagine finding that all in someone else.

What he can do with just his pointer finger alone...he's the one that showed me where my g-spot was. I was immobilized when he found it, mofo cut me off mid-sentence. I'm talking about "J, I don't think you're gonna find my...(O_O)!!!!!"

Yes, Lord.

I said YES, LORD!!
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candeh!

this is post was great. i thought i was the only one.

so confession here. i am a very sexual person somewhere deep within. i just don't show it that often, and especially in person, but when i do, i heard that is stays with that person for ever it seems, and this could be as simple as being 100% passionate about a kiss, if i really give that person a chance, once in a while, if that makes any sense...

another confession here, i am a virgin, yet i'm not as pure in mind as a lot of people think.

and third confession (and no more after this lol) i have dated both, guys and girls, for several reasons that i won't begin to list, but never at the same time, ever. i am loyal. so. nothing huge, but kind of for a virgo i guess. 😉i only had one long-term relationship though and i refuse to have sex with anyone, until they reach the very depths of my soul and mind, which it won't happen easily.

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Also, "Sextrology" has some of my favorite passages on the sexual paradox of the Virgo woman. It basically says that we are the embodiment of the "Madonna-Whore" complex and this alone confuses men but because we embody both characters so equally and naturally, men have no other choice but to reconcile us as being both (paraphrasing here).

It also talks about how we can easily inspire a man to lust and want to protect us all at once. For a man to want to marry us and keep us safe, but to have sex with us is like making him feel like he's littering in the Grand Canyon. In other words, we make them feel guilty for wanting to be all dirty with/doing the nasty with us.



must be true and had heard this before from people i dated, which makes my life both, miserable at times (because of my inner desires to have people i want) and yet relaxed when my virginal me and thinking come back to hunt me.

i completely understand your dilemma!
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Oh I get that too where guys tell me they're intrigued by my very sexual and curious side, and how I also seem so angelic and innocent at the same time. I love when they say things like they want to violate me, or corrupt me 🙂 I've only had sex with one guy so far though.. so I haven't really been 'corrupted' or 'violated' enough yet though lol 😄



Yeah same. Well, I guess it depends on what one has done with that one guy.

I'm glad you understand where I'm coming from amoreaux. It is tough trying to find this balance; I mean, in some ways, it seems like it should already be there. But it's not necessarily that easy, or easily understood. It's a lot of me still trying to figure out what I want for myself (excluding most of society) knowing that I don't want to go too far on either end. I sometimes feel like a freak (no pun intended), but not so much that I'm going to extremes. I also think a lot of it is that I'm not someone who can do casual things. I'm kind of all or nothing, but my sexual desires seem to be beyond that (yet not enough for me to go outside of my comfort zone).

Urg. I'm kind of just rambling now.
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I'm glad you understand where I'm coming from amoreaux. It is tough trying to find this balance; I mean, in some ways, it seems like it should already be there. But it's not necessarily that easy, or easily understood. It's a lot of me still trying to figure out what I want for myself (excluding most of society) knowing that I don't want to go too far on either end. I sometimes feel like a freak (no pun intended), but not so much that I'm going to extremes. I also think a lot of it is that I'm not someone who can do casual things. I'm kind of all or nothing, but my sexual desires seem to be beyond that (yet not enough for me to go outside of my comfort zone).

Urg. I'm kind of just rambling now.
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I gotcha. I know. Well, I think we tend to analyze things more and it is just natural for us to be who we are...even if that means sometimes very specific at knowing what we want (or processing about it while seeing potentials) OR to be virginal...with regards to the purity of our hearts and intentions...when ms. trouble doesn't fight in our mind, if you know what I mean.

I don't try to be pure, for example, I just tend to be more than way than not, and yet I do know that other side of me who is very attracted to things that would be a little bit scandalous per say. 🙂 I know.

I think, Candeh, we just need to accept the way we are, complications and all and just keep on trying to be the BEST we that we can be. Afterall, everyone has two sides to fight. It is just that ours (virgo girls) seems to be that of the sexual/physical/emotional aspect. it is all one big combo and it is something we treasure and don't give away easily, but we do, we do it genuinely (unless we are the rare crazy out of control virgo type, that personally, I've never seen).

It is a blessing and curse. I haven't for example seen or known of any Virgo woman who got babies in unplanned ways or out of an 'oopsie' (although Im sure there are few exceptions) most of the virgo girls I met are hard to get. However, all the ones I met, like us, do tend to be picky and need time to feel comfy with jumping into physical/sexual stuff with someone, which can be a pain as well because a lot of people just do it. Haha. And we know we could AND sometimes we want to, we just can't. :p
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What I find even more funny is, when I was a virgin, most guys were very surprised. Ironically, when I was willing to do something, guys treated me like I was a virgin, asking me questions, asking me if this feels okay, ect. I would look at them strangely and say, "I know I'm a virgin, but I'm not a prude..." Lol, the look on their faces was a little priceless. I can tell that they want to just completely go crazy, but they want to be gentle, as if every time, they are deflowering a virgin. It's actually very interesting.



Virgo Porn star tori black is a very beautiful woman with a great, humble personality, and she portrays the typical innocent virgin, but as soon as the men start going down on her, she begins to demand them to go off on them, and some do while others dont...

I need to lay off the porno, haha.

Funny part is that, I look skinnier than i am, so women use to think that i would be fragile for them, but the ones who i have come in contact with said otherwise, after several encounters, ah well. 😄

It's good that I took up on sexual education, yoga, and wight lifting courses, and implied them into my life along with martial arts to keep me in shape and physical aware with the surroundings around me. 😉