Virgo man driving me insane!!!

Can I have both of yours complete chart please.

Hey everyone,

Sorry I know it's a novel but so many things happened in one month and I feel like all the details were important for you guys to understand the full story.

I don't know my birth time his birth time (never thought of asking). If he told me the truth about where he was born (right now I'm questioning everything) then he has a virgo moon. So his chart would be virgo sun, virgo moon, Venus in Leo, Mars in Aries, mercury in libra.

Virgo king, I'll send you a private message with my chart as well. Thanks for taking the time! Appreciate it.

For those who don't have the patience to read FIVE chapters ... I read every word, and here is the gist ....



This Virgo man is whore, and doesn't hide it .... while the female OP here keeps catching him, arguing with him about it, then he throws her some crumbs and she's lovey again.

this goes one for 5 fucking WOT's .... like 6/7 times.

If her ego is stroked, she purrs even while he has videos of other women.

and she asks her viewing audience .... what do I do? I'm so confused. Help !!

P-Angel you're probably the only one who's read my over detailed virgo story so thanks! What do you mean you're like him but he doesn't hide it?

Are you telling me he's just a cheater/flirt? Then why the **** does he want to move in with me— What's his motive? Whys his stupid car at my house I hate him right now I feel like driving it in the middle of nowhere and taping the keys to the windshield ..but I won't because I'm a good person.

I have a crazy violent temper though and we but heads a lot. I know the video was to make me jealous because if she was actually another girlfriend he would have kept her very far from me. He removed her from his friend list too which also tells me an was nothing but I'm not stupid enough to believe she was just a friend either!

All I want to know is why did this happen, was I justified to spy his social media and get mad over every message and what are his true intentions with me?

I need to figure this all out before he comes back. I feel like I need to move on but I'm stuck with his car till he gets back and I really want to be strong when we face each other.

I need this type of blunt advice

Posted by Earthprincess

.... I'm not stupid enough to believe she was just a friend either!

However .... you are stupid enough to still consider him, in knowing that the bitch wasn't a friend.

You have detailed all of this bullshit out ... but, appear to have no awareness that it's the reality you are actually living.

You ARE that dumb. You don't seem to realize that you are the one living all of your drama you vented out onto all of us.

He posted that stuff after I told him we were done and ignored his calls. Yes he's a piece of butter for doing it because I didn't just jump on some next guy.

And ok I'm glad someone put it point blank to me like this because when you're infatuated and deep into a situation you don't always see the truth although I've been feeling it deep down.

CC don't call me a desperate ho cuz you just look like a dumb cookie monster insulting people who come on here for advice when you yourself vent all the time about the virgo who toys with you! I've been single for a long time after a 5 year relationship so I guess I've been out of the dating loop and forgot how much scum there is out there. I agree that the motive must have been to get out of his parents house and now that others see it too I know exactly what I'm going to do.

Posted by Earthprincess

He posted that stuff after I told him we were done and ignored his calls.

You told him you were done, according to your own words, about 7 times and took him right back .... but, of course, you hid what you said, so anything you say now that's contrary ... well, you get the drift.

or maybe you're not swift enough to actually get things .... for example ....

Posted by Earthprincess

Yes he's a piece of butter for doing it because I didn't just jump on some next guy.

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You jumping on a guy, or not ... isn't the catalyst as to why this guy is a piece of shit. You don't know that though because you just said it. A person treating you like shit, or being shitty to you ... is YOUR fault, after the god know how many times you've permitted it.

During all relationships .... familial, business, romantic, friends, etc - the interaction that goes on between you and that other person will be according to terms of engagement that are established. If you allow him to treat you this way, by forgiving him and going back to him as if he is going to turn a new leaf ... then you are givng him the permission to treat you this way, by acceptance of him and what he does.

And you don't get that. You don't get this basic and rudimentary concept that ----- you get what you are deserving of getting.

Posted by Earthprincess
Hey everyone,

Sorry I know it's a novel but so many things happened in one month and I feel like all the details were important for you guys to understand the full story.

I don't know my birth time his birth time (never thought of asking). If he told me the truth about where he was born (right now I'm questioning everything) then he has a virgo moon. So his chart would be virgo sun, virgo moon, Venus in Leo, Mars in Aries, mercury in libra.

Virgo king, I'll send you a private message with my chart as well. Thanks for taking the time! Appreciate it.

Earth Princess I wanted to read the Five novels actually....lol. Can you unhide the post of them please or somehthing? 😢

Or Pm them to me? I will give you my advice. The virgo guy I was talking to is Also Virgo Sun, Virgo Moon. Except his Venus was in Libra and Mars was also in Virgo.

I didn't read the post but a Scorp Venus can be too attached and involved, and delusional. Far too tolerant of other peoples' crap towards themselves. I know this because I am one.

If the guy is being a prick then he's being a prick.

P-Angel, as harshly delivered as it can be, often makes some accurate observations. Plus it is rare she slates the guy, especially a Virgo guy!

I was with a Virgo Sun and Venus, Aries Moon. Best and worst relationship I've had.

I agree with P Angel which is why I don't mind the constructive criticism. I also agree with CC I just don't condone silly name calling.

Dontgetmewrong thanks for reading it all 🙂

Koolgemi I will unhide the posts to give you a chance to read thanks. I will hide them again later because I'm paranoid.

AgentP911, I guess the gist of my "confusion" comes from self doubt. I'm worried I judge too harshly since it's in my nature to do so and my Scorpio placements make me very suspicious of everyone. Having said that, I'm really hung up on the idea that if I wasn't so jealous and possessive, butter wouldn't have hit the fan.. BUT I also feel I'm justified to expect that he cease the flirting, innocent or not, if he is sleeping in my bed every night having talks of the future. Yes it was soon for me to stalk but I think the expectations I have for him to be loyal early on are warranted based on his actions of moving things so quickly..

Does everyone think that if I had given him freedom and didn't snoop and blow up on him that he would've still asked me to move in and all this crazy nonsense? I wish I had let him be just long enough to see how this would manifest.. On the other hand, whether it happened now or later the outcome is the same. I doubt very much that he would stop flirting even if we were to move in together and it's very possible he was planning on taking things to that level regardless of me blowing up on him about loyalty.. All his talks about "power couples" and spending all this time at my house.. I think it was bound to happen .. "Let's move in together babe" ..

PANGEL you're right I get it I can't allow this behaviour. I was trying to dissect everything piece by piece but the moment I wrote my entire story down I realized he is a piece of butter. A real relationship starts off with loyalty. I don't need to move in with someone to prove that I'm loyal that's crazy talk people date for months or years before moving in. That doesn't mean that until they do they get to disrespect each other by flirting and/or cheating.

You know my ex and I moved in together after just a month of dating. We were together 5 years and almost married. The BIG difference between my ex and this guy however is that my ex took care of % 90 of the finances. He didn't expect anything from me financially and didn't force me to move in as a condition of him being loyal either. We went away together and fell in love on vacation and he just asked me casually

if I would want to move in.. This guy had an ulterior motive too (to get me pregnant) but that aside, his feelings were genuine in that he wasn't looking for a "free ride" or forcing me to move in as a condition of loyalty.

I'm not sure why I thought this situation was similar..

(and no I didn't get pregnant)

Ok the story is up again but not for long..

Oh my good fucking God! What the f**k have I just read—

Five posts of crap! You've known this dude for one month and all that has happened in ONE month—

30 days of continuous bullshit. Drama after drama after drama. No wonder your Scorp Venus is loving it! Astrology aside, this is NOT what it should look like. It's not even close.

I thought I'd met some complete pricks in my time but this dude takes the fucking piss!

What EXACTLY is it you like about him aside from having his dick in you?

What do you know of this guy?

All the moving in talk and flirting and videos is just energy consuming waffle.

Seriously, if it's like this after 30 days, how on earth is it going to get any better—

You need to consider binning this guy as it is not healthy at all. Kick him to the curb. Once your head wakes up to over rule your heart and fanny then all will be well. I know it takes a lot for a Venus Scorp to wake up and smell the coffee but it's been one month.

Wow. Amazing!

Posted by CluelessCancer
This fuker got a Scorpio moon I bet

Why do you say she has a Scorpio moon? I have a scorpio moon and I dont act like this..lol

For the OP(original poster).

I feel like this guy is using you! Leave him alone..he obviously has selfish motives to take advantage of you. Also, stop messaging him about flirting with other women on social media. It shows you still care. If you are gonna be done with him then be done with him. Do NOT message him though saying "I am done with you". Just do it. Ignore the sh*t out of him. He will come back begging..and that is when you give him the silent treatment. Delete or block him off any social media possible. He also comes off as childish with trying to make jealous also. Do the same to him if you really wanna play "that game".You need to back way from this situation before you get even more attached.He is not good for you.

Posted by CluelessCancer
I blame all idiots things on Scorpio moon now. I guess I should just get back to bashing Virgos as a sign

Hmm..maybe you should bash your own sign for a change.

Agentp911: two Venus in scorpios can certainly relate that a level of addiction builds during difficult times.. It's the worst Venus in Scorpio. Such a toxic placement ugh. Have you ever dealt with a Venus in Leo? Or a virgo with Venus in Leo in particular? Yes you're right it's been 30 days of drama. Have I had any part in this? I'm trying really hard to wake up and it sucks that after spending all this time away from him I have to face him when he gets back because his stupid car is at my house. The prick hasn't even contacted me since I snapped on him about the last social media thing I saw.. I have a feeling he won't contact me until the day he gets back and after all this progress I'll be making I have to see his face all over again and I KNOW I just KNOW it's gonna hurt to see him. Even if it's just for a minute to give him his car keys. He should've driven his stupid car home and taken a cab from there ugh

Koolgemi:

It hurtsss like h*ll to even fathom that he's actually using me. Neither of us has a Scorpio moon lol and even though we are both Virgos I would never never ever be with someone for any reason other than pure attraction and real feelings. I'm too real. I don't get how people can be together for the wrong reasons!?

I didn't bring up the social media except during times when I THOUGHT we were supposed to be working things out? Like why the treetrunk are you leaving your stupid car at my place and coming over my house for ONE stinkin day before you leave again only to go and flirt with cookie monsters online.. That why I brought it up.. But I won't anymore because it's exhausting quite frankly.

And I really wanted to know from someone what is considered acceptable social media interaction? At one point does a line get drawn? Is a compliment innocent because it's the social norm to do this online now? What about asking someone if they are ever in town in your area? What about commenting on the same profile over and over and over? What am I supposed to consider innocent and what is crossing the line?

You know how mch it's going to suck to see his face after all this time away again? It's gonna hurt I just know it. Even if it's for a minute to give him his keys. Why did he leave his stupid car at my place why didn't he just drive it home and take a cab from there ugh

Btw to everyone he doesn't live with his parents he lives with a relative in the same area as me. His parents love out of town where he was visit before he came back for one day and left again.

Why don't you just tape the car keys to his car window on the day he's due back? His car is not your responsibility. Don't hold onto those keys as an excuse for seeing him again. Do all you can not to see him again and ignore him.

I don't have experience of a Leo Venus but most Leo placements do like attention. So don't give him the thing he wants. No attention. It will drive him insane. Just cut him off. No excuses. No explanation. The end.

Make sure you're out for the day. He didn't even ask to leave his car. He just did. That's rude.

Not everyone reading your story can be wrong. We have all said this dude is a loser. I don't think anyone on here is vouching for him.

I know you want to hold on to him and those car keys enable you to do just that but don't. He's not worth it. Plus it will be much more fun to ignore his arse!

I'll respond to everyone individually.

ShadowAbsorber: thanks for reading everything as well. You're right it's so self entitled and unfair to think that he doesn't have to give anything until I give my all.. Like his loyalty is so precious it doesn't have the same value as mine?! My loyalty comes at no cost but his costs me "my all" (house, control,etc) treetrunk him!

You're right he would likely ruin my life moving in.. We've had moments where things felt so good that I'm left here completely baffled after he's bulldozed his way through my life and things turned out this way.. I keep thinking how, why, where did we go wrong.. Was this a complete lie from day 1.. Am I that stupid...

AgentP911: I can't tape the keys to the windshield I know the law and I'm responsible for his keys.. He told me he left them in my house and I didn't say anything because at the time I was still trying to make sense of everything.. But once he departed and I saw his social media activity while he's telling me he supposedly doesn't have a long distance plan (he could've used iMessage thru the same wifi he was using on social media if he really wanted to contact me) it all kind of hit me again and I was like why the treetrunk do I have his stupid car!!!!

All I'm trying to do right now is build the strength to be cold and heartless.
I have another guy chasing me hard and I don't even have it in me right now to give him the time of day.. I just want to be cold and heartless ugh whyyy am I so loyal

Leoveen :
I have no clue how to ruin his ego I never so things like this I normally focus on moving on even though I would love to get even.. The thing is I feel like he would still win in the end because if he really doesn't care about me that much I don't know how affected he will be by it.. He actually has to care for this to work.

And what's the use anyway right.. The issues will still be there whether I make him jealous or not..

Cc: he's 27

Yea he's immature but the more I observe him the more I feel like he thinks wayyyyy to highly of himself.. Deep down Virgos are insecure but I have no idea how to tap into that he only shows me his entitled face.. It was never like this at first but things quickly changed.. I feel like I did this somehow.. I've been too into him maybe? Or maybe he was always a douchee not sure

And I am trying to mirror him but I am not a huge flirt. I'm actually picky and selective and I don't know how to go on a "flirting spree" to get him back..
My best bet is to be cold as ice (that I'm good at thanks to my Scorpio placements) even if it kills me inside.. Like you said "pride" right.. I don't know what else to do..

Update: he texted me today.. I don't even know how to read this.. Can anyone help me interpret? So he says "sup" (ew that's how you talk to me now) and then says he hopes no other man is wearing his clothes or driving his car (what a douche bag for real).. So I don't respond for TEN friggin minutes because I didn't see my phone so he texts again ok no problem I'll just come get my stuff no hard feelings then he says he will still pay me to do this business deal for him we discussed before ... Wow I snapped when I saw all this. I told him that no man is using his butter and that I don't need his money because I'm not interested in his stupid business deal that was more of a favour and now that I see he's not serious about me I'm not interested. He writes back wow And tells me I'm treetrunked up and fine he will manage on his own and he sees how I am and that I clearly can't keep a man like him and he won't contact me again till he lands..
I wrote back this paragraph about how he's a prick and thinks way too highly of himself and he can't keep a woman like me either and he disrespected me by chasing after women etc but no response I know he blocked my number so I blocked his too (we do this to each other a lot and then unblock so I can tell when he does it cuz he would never be able to hold back a response to what I said)

Now I'm sitting here wondering if he really thought I would ignore his texts after just ten mins which is why he said fine no hard feelings OR if the plan all along was to make sure the business deal would go thru? (I hate this alternative) He didn't even adress the comment I made about him chasing other women!! He just accused me of having another guy at my place and says no hard feelings then blows up about the business deal ugh what about what you've been doing?

It hurts like butter realizing this very moment how disrespectful that message was and how little he must care about me... I hate him

I have nothing to apologize for I've done nothing to him. All I've been doing is putting up with his butter and maybeee I've been temperamental and quick to argue but I feel it was warranted.

Do you know where this prick lives?

uote>Posted by Earthprincess

.... it all kind of hit me again ....

this appears to be your pattern, and the theme throughout this thread .... it hits you again, and again and again and again ... but, you still make the decision for yourself to give him credit.

The only person fucking you up is you ... considering you have a whole slew of people telling you that it's him, then I suppose you'll never figure it out and continue to believe that you are faultless, and he's a cad.

When in reality, he is treating you exactly as you deserve to be treated because that is how you taught him what is acceptable to you by continuing to give him credit.

But, of course ... you will ignore that because if you accepted that then you wouldn't be able to relish in the drama.

Posted by Earthprincess

I wrote back this paragraph ......

.... so I blocked his too (we do this to each other a lot and then unblock so I can tell when he does it cuz he would never be able to hold back a response to what I said)

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There's no doubt in my mind that you do this a lot.

Again ... if you didn't and gained some dignity, then you wouldn't be able to relish in the drama.

There's stupid people like this in here too .... where they tell someone they are blocking them to attempt to make them feel superior and log out to go read what they wrote.

typical drama queen ... you don't appear to be any different because the truth is ... you could actually walk away from this if you wanted to.

The fact that you are a coward speaks volumes .... if you were an honest person with integrity, you wouldn't have your words hidden from sight.

That kind of goes along with the games you play with him ... in where you block him so that you can get him to say something behind your back, just so you can jump on him about what he says.


A true person who was actually looking for insight wouldn't be such a coward.

It appears that you're just another Princess with entitlement issues.

PAngel- you were giving me some good advice for a while but some statements are aimply inaccurate assumptions. As I mentioned before my chart is Scorpio heavy so I'm naturally a secretive person. Scorpios hide their issues because they don't want to give someone the chance to use it against them. And this is how I behave in love. It's self preservation. The only reason I hid my post is because on the very slim off chance he frequents this site I simply do not want to give him the satisfaction. I could care less what anyone else thinks.. But I'm trying to get my pride and dignity back and letting him see this is not a good start. I am a true person and genuine to a fault but I've learned to protect myself with time.

I agree that I'm allowing this behaviour and it needs to stop. I need to put my foot down. This is exactly why I can here for advice. To get an outsider perspective on the issues.

You assume I block him to catch him somehow but your assumption is inaccurate. We met online. We have no mutual friends whatsoever and he's out of te country right now anyway. I blocked him to avoid any more fighting but today I decided it's best to keep his number unblocked. Maybe he won't even text me until he's back and by then I plan to be cold as ice.. This is why I'm talking out my feelings right now. I want to be prepared to hand him his keys and walk away never speaking to him again.

AgentP911: I know where he lives but have no clue what condo number. I've never been there since he lives with a relative and has been at my house all the time. I would love to drive his car there if that's what you're suggesting but I belive security access is required and I don't know the condo number. Anyway just a 5 days until he's back and I can move on after I give him his things.

Nobody gave an opinion on the texts.. (I know I over analyze everything I'm a virgo)

LeoVeen I 100% agree with you and in fact you really gave me something to think about moving forward (learning to work people's mind) .. The only reason I'm not engaging now is because I feel he's done too much damage and like everyone on here said I need to move on.. I would play this game if I wanted to manipulate him but really I think I just need to move on... (Although I would have some satisfaction in getting even I can't lie)

This entire thing is unhealthy. There's good comments and observations above.

I can't believe you're playing into this dudes hands. He's messaged you a load of crap just to get you're attention and to wind you up and you've reacted to it instead of just ignoring him.

You're whinging about his car being on your drive yet you're doing nothing to deal with the problem.

You have the keys, drive his car home and post the keys through the letter box. Remove the one thing that currently ties you to him. Alternatively, get a damn tow truck to get it off your premises!

The point is that you're fretting about this damn car and the constant to and fro you have. End it now by removing everything connected to him. The blocking him and unblocking him is just stupid. Seriously, grow up. You're fuelling your own mess.

One month. Jesus Christ, this is not how it should be.

No one gave an opinion on the texts because the texts are irrelevent here. You're focusing on the one thing and missing the bigger picture.

We've all been in crap situations at some point in our lives so none of us are perfect. That's my disclaimer!!

However, you're blaming things on astrological placements and in this situation it's not what it's about.

In a nutshell:

You met online one month ago
He practically moved in to your place
He's acted like a dick from day one
You've fuelled petty arguments
Flirting, social media, disrespectful behaviour in general
None of this points to a healthy relationship

The first few weeks or months is supposed to be when things are nice and you're learning about each other. Not bitching over text about f**k all.

This reminds me of me and my ex Virgo with the petty arguments just to keep digging at each other. We would tear each other apart and for what? It was horrible and soul destroying. It served no purpose. It was hard to break out of the cycle but we were together longer than you guys.

Someone needs to break the cycle. P-Angel is spot on with the cycle you have.

He sounds like he goes out of town a lot most likely have women where ever he goes. He is a insecure man with no morals and he can't possibly love you if he doesn't even love himself.

Everything is pretty much obvious he thinks you lack intellegence and wanted to use you. He saw you as a personal toilet and atm. Thank the stars that he showed you himself within a month then years later with kids and marriage. Virgo men put on a great facade some are really sociopaths and you clearly met one who think life is just a game.

I think by you not dating in 5 years it has caused you to latch on to a guy who showed some connection. You don't have feelings for him you just miss the male attention and chemistry.

Let this be a lesson to not get attached to a guy because of initial attraction. Love starts with a slow burn the longer you perserve it the longer it will last. What you need to take from this is to slow down when falling for someone that is how this situation end up how did with your ex. You rushed it and assumed that is how it is suppose to be. Stop repeating cycles use your virgo patience and take things slowly and make a man work for your loyalty and love.

Also, be careful with online dating people intentions are not always good and a lot of times they are looking to use and abuse.

Posted by Octoberbaby91
He sounds like he goes out of town a lot most likely have women where ever he goes. He is a insecure man with no morals and he can't possibly love you if he doesn't even love himself.

Everything is pretty much obvious he thinks you lack intellegence and wanted to use you. He saw you as a personal toilet and atm. Thank the stars that he showed you himself within a month then years later with kids and marriage. Virgo men put on a great facade some are really sociopaths and you clearly met one who think life is just a game.

I think by you not dating in 5 years it has caused you to latch on to a guy who showed some connection. You don't have feelings for him you just miss the male attention and chemistry.

Let this be a lesson to not get attached to a guy because of initial attraction. Love starts with a slow burn the longer you perserve it the longer it will last. What you need to take from this is to slow down when falling for someone that is how this situation end up how did with your ex. You rushed it and assumed that is how it is suppose to be. Stop repeating cycles use your virgo patience and take things slowly and make a man work for your loyalty and love.

Also, be careful with online dating people intentions are not always good and a lot of times they are looking to use and abuse.

Good post.

Lol @ toilet and ATM.

Posted by Earthprincess

.... you were giving me some good advice ....

The only reason I hid my post is because on the very slim off chance he frequents this site I simply do not want to give him the satisfaction.

1. you're not looking for advice. You are looking to get validated, you are looking for people to enable you so you can continue being a dumbass

2. which is a lie, of course. If he frequented this site, he would find you talking smack behind his back, regardless of the Opening 5 wot.

YOu hid the posts because you're a coward. If you really wanted insight, or "advice", then you would have it all out there.

for a Virgo ... you sure are deceitful.