whats your lilith

this sign shows ur dark side mine is in leo

LEO
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Power, influence, and supremacy: Lilith emphasizes these in Leo. The
native has to solve something regarding domination. Here is an
ambiguity: fascination together with rejection of what is noble,
luxurious and sumptuous. Because he lioes them, the native needs to
exert his influence on those who are around. He also feels with his
heart those he loves and it gives to him the "inner knowledge of the
things and the beings". He knows intuitively which way they have to
follow and he wants to oblige them to take it. But things do not
work, as he wants. Authoritarian on a paternalistic and kindly mode,
the native has to learn how to let the others living and -sometimes -
leaving... He has a thirst of power that he will never satisfy, as he
would like, because there is an absolute impossibility for him to
dictate to others. He will have to learn how to forget his own
desires and his ego must be dissolved. The native may shine forth
without being at the first place. The temptation of the personality
cult is never far. The trap would be to exert anyway one's authority
under the cover of great traditional or avant-gardist principles. He
may be the center of a group, admired or idolized by the members. On
the other hand the native may fight for ideas he does not apply in
his own life, because he does not want to restrain himself and he
wants to protect his ego. He may also feel an excessive need for
intense pleasure, passion and power he will never satisfy. The
instinctive power of self assertion comes back after every failure
and each time the temptation to have again the same behavior is
there. The native must control and restrain his instinctive strength.

Aquarius - opposite to Leo - will impose to the native long-term
objectives, will oblige to think, to calculate the consequences of
actions, to cast doubt over his instinctive mode of action, to plan
his behavior, to be conscious. Also there is an artistic potential to
develop on another way. The native may be a teacher. In the past
lives, the native might have exerted a power, sometimes at a high
level. He also might have been an artist. Abusive power or crushing
inferiority? Whatever was the contest, the soul has kept today an
imprint which may feel her guilty when she is confronted to similar
situations. She may aspire after power to the detriment of everything
or she may fight a

fight against those who are despotic.

If Lilith is between 0?? and 2?? of Leo, there is a rebirth, a new
personality is born. But the movement can't be accelerated. The
native goes through periods of fears where things are instinctively
held (see Mars position on the Chart). Then he lives periods where he
frees himself from past.

If Lilith is between 28?? and 30??00 of Leo, the native will try to use
his influence through the word, to pass on his knowledge with the
help of the Leo's innate authority, together with his try to adapt
himself to other people and to reality. He has to find a new
direction for his gifts in order to transform them and to serve the
other people.

Keywords : ambition - sexuality - cold will - megalomania - great
vitality - arrogance - pushiness - success is often here but with
trials in creativity and love affairs - heart and eyes are fragile.

http://tribes.tribe.net/darkmoongoddesslilith/thread/a8d76b5d-4175-4e4a-b6f6-566aa0dcb407

this is the dark side of a person all u need is there bday to find there lilth

TAURUS
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Lilith's position here is related to greed either with the material/emotional level or with food. Here we have possessiveness. It is very difficult to change our habits, to free us from our roots. Life will oblige us to break our environment. We will have emotional problems because we will not have the love reassurance we need. Our life will go on through uprooting either leaving the place we love or separations with persons we love. If the undergone trials are too rough, suicide is not far. At the beginning of life, the native may have not been happy as - often - a brother or a sister was preferred. The native has turned in on himself and has mostly forgotten all his infancy's memories. Taurus is known for his tendency to keep turning over his problems on an introspective mode, before solving them. He keeps silence on what is worrying him. Here, Black Moon increases inhibition, obstinacy and introversion of the sign. Difficulties to express sensuality or hyper-sensuality, strong jealousy. Sensual feelings are in the same timed very strong and repulsed. The native has to work on himself to learn how to let go. He must go over his fears of change, his fears of the unknown, his fears to be depossessed of his ownership(love and materials). Also the native's interest for money is not clear: desire and refusal of money. Sometimes he is fascinated by the power of money or he renounces to the material. Often financial problems occur. All the abilities of the Taurus must be awaken, as the sign has a powerful capital he must show and develop: artistic potential, to create a company, to take care of uprooted persons, financial talents, interests for nature.

With Scorpio opposite to Taurus, there will be confrontations when the Taurus dreams of peace. Permanent hard life conditions in an inharmonious environment when he does not want to move. Of course he will do his best to calm down the game and to find back again the peace he needs, but this will be very, very difficult. Also, he will have to pass the passion in love. In the past lives, the soul may
have done a bad use of sexual energy. Today, the soul has to become reconciled with sensuality. On a material point of view, she has to accept to possess, then to lose, with the understanding that all of this is part of his inner transformations.

If Lilith is between 0) and 2?? of Taurus, the choices of life are very important: it is essential to have a deep reflection, to be well integrated in

Lilith in Gemini

http://sanjaperic.wordpress.com/2009/03/15/lilith-in-gemini/

Virgo

Posted by V—CancerianAries
Lilith in Gemini

http://sanjaperic.wordpress.com/2009/03/15/lilith-in-gemini/

My lilith is in gemini as well. i read that page a while back... its so incredibly spot on. i love reading about lilith, it's fascinating how accurate it is compared to the vagueness of some of the other planetary placements

howdo i find my lilth??

Taurus

ty wintreborn


mine's pieces

Sagittarian lilith here

Also a Sagittarian Lilith.

gemini...like hitler

LILITH IN GEMINI

Lilith in Gemini is a particularly excellent sign placement. The mental magnification urges the mind to so lucid a level, as to move it along in the world of thought, oblivious t surroundings, while probing the delights of imaginative focusings. Mental reverie is indulged in, for the mind to roam freely back & forth over experiences or conversations in order to savor them; to focus on them more clearly; or to simply relax in the imagination to see what ideas may eventually surface to be deliciously pondered. The imaginative powers of the mind are strong & logical, making way for creative thought or novel literary talent. There is the capacity to stay slightly above reach of the emotional in relationships, so that the mental freedom to move in any direction is never totally hindered. It is rare that these people are seriously influenced by others, because they simply accept as their inalienable right to think as they wish, respecting this in others as well. They are open to valid suggestion, which is independently scrutinized by the mind's eye at leisure. They are capable of a rare sense of humor. We note the physical manifestations of Lilith in Gemini: something unusual about the hands or fingers. There may be great strength, unusual sensitivity or healing in the hands; they may be heavily veined, the fingers in some instances double-jointed, or possessing psychometrizing talent - particularly if Lilith is also in the 3rd & water signatures are strong. In Gemini, Lilith is one of the finest positions for prompting objectivity, as both the sign & the planet represent reasoning processes: the former for the concrete mind & the latter for the instinctive subconscious that channels psychological (instinctive mental) activity forward. While appearing to be an attentive listener, one with a Gemini Lilith can mentally move almost totally into another area for more mental food to absorb. Disinterest is tactfully masked lest he or she appear impolite, which is not the intention at all. The focusing tendencies given to the mind simply search for more gratifying subjects that will satisfy urgings for the diverse & the novel. This becomes so much a habit that it is done quite unconsciously - although it isn't entirely unnoticed by those close to him.

Here we have twins in one person. The first one stays at a unconscious level and is occulted while the second one has a "normal" life. Both
are like enemies at the beginning as they interpenetrate and bother each other. The native must integrate the both, even if he is scared by the first and refuses him. This gives different attitudes:
- One tries to cheat, to hide the truth to oneself or to others, to mask what one does not want to see: that's a kind of unintentional duplicity
- Double faced personality (Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde): the showed face is nice, the hidden face is bad.

The native will live his outer personality in order to calm down his anxiety. The link between mind and body is difficult. If the mind is not strong enough, it will identify itself to the body and become too much receptive to the others and to the outer world. The head might be
"empty" and the native can't concentrate his attention and can't reflect. This type is easy to manipulate. If the mind is stronger
than the body, it has its own life, dissociated from the body : we may have schizophrenia. The native must find a conciliation between
material and spirit: it is the duality. To harmonize the masculine (Yang) energy and the feminine (Yin) energy is hard to do. Nervous,
anxiety, latent homosexuality, mental eroticism, bad communication, intellectual frustrations... all of these are in relation with Black
Moon in Gemini. The thoughts are often ferocious and cold. As there are here several personalities in the same person, the concerned
native may not know who he really is and where he is. There are different ways to live this:

- One may operate a junction (a mix) between its two personalities
- One may wake up the hidden part in order to correct its negative aspects
- One may use a new gift if the hidden part is positive

sooo fascinating :]

😛 didn't like that site and didn't find it interesting at all. not very well written.

http://sanjaperic.wordpress.com/2009/02/22/all-about-lilith/ -- whomever suggested that one, much thanks.

Lilith in Gemini
—If the fool would persist in his folly he would become wise.??

William Blake

Lilith in Gemini could in short be called — challenging opposites. Every one of us carries within him two natures that are opposed to each other. The need for agressive behaviour belongs to the person who is essentially a coward, just as the most understanding for others will be shown by the loneliest of people. Lilith positioned here gives the possibility for these two opposites to meet. A person with this position constantly feels as if before a mirror that breaks every lie, ego trip, illusion. However, this process does not happen spontaneously and unhindered.

Thousands of thoughts rush and rush, a mental block happens, they fall into pits of the mind, questions rush in and with them also doubt. Since it is a given to be aware of one's black and white side, a person with Lilith in Gemini will naturally seek the easiest way to beat herself, her weaknesses, faults, bad habits. In time she becomes obssessed with what is good and what is not — thus burdening not only herself but the environment as well. This is especially pronounced in relationships. From the beginning she sees all of the black and white sides of a partner and does not stop criticizing. This is an exceptionally analytical mind that must think. So if it does not create, if it is not completely free in the ways of expression, then it will passionately indulge in small, mundane things and create dramas there!She will be suffocated by her desire for change, since she is in principle a changeable type. By accepting monotony, she only beckons the moment that will inevitably come, and in which, with furious nerves and rebelled, she will destroy all that she has built until then, change her profession, faith, life philosophy and with the unbelievable lightness of —nothing?? begin to learn, create, travel, conquer new spaces from the beginning.

Curious and superficial, in order to discover the real truths they must dig deeper into their soul, so good psychotherapists are born with this position, especially since they have the power over other people that open up and confide in them voluntarily. They tell them details from every day life, which is why Lilith in Gemini is in the charts of many journalists and media personalities. Because of their strong intuition, they can predict the future on the basis of facts, so it gives exceptional astrologers, numerologists, chiromants and esotherists in general, that can reach their full success only when they believe in what they study, in what they do, because while doubt haunts them, they are not capable of using their oracle capabilities to the fullest. People with Lilith in Gemini are excellent to work with young people, in the media, as animators, imitators, entertainers, actors — since they easily get into other characters. Properly used, it can give a top poet, writer, dramatist. Danger always lurks in traffic because of their passion for speed driving.

People born with Lilith in Gemini get everything with a smile. They seem naive and calculated, lucid and childish. Their communication with others goes from one extreme to the other, from sweetness and kindness to the worst statements, threats and curses. If it is used positively it can give a unique individual that will courageously follow her own way.

Sexuality is here much complicated with the flood of thought that doesn't allow the psyche to relax, which is why they often resort to (especially in their youth) to alcohol, drugs, various opiates. Thousands of different possiblities come to their mind of which only a small number will actually materialize. Sometimes in the family??s past there was incest, which is why sometimes the love toward a sister or a brother is often pathological, and a husband and wife are further modelled after them. What is true for them is that excitement and sex are most forceful and best in the street, in the car, in the traffic, quickly, unexpectedly, without planning??_

Already as boys, men like watching pictures of naked women, and since Gemini is the sign most commonly associated with communication — here is where we find hot line girls or the users of their services. They like to animate their partners with talk, provoking their erotic thoughts. But, especially with women, it happens that other introductions into opening the senses are needed, after which everything is easier. Because of their sexual life they can often be the target of gossip, always of the paparazzi (if we are talking about celebrities) and scandals.

--END

yes that's the excerpt i responded to earlier in the thread. that one is very well put and also quite spot on i find. as i said, i find lilith to be interestingly accurate

@zen - agreed. for mine...

She will be suffocated by her desire for change, since she is in principle a changeable type. By accepting monotony, she only beckons the moment that will inevitably come, and in which, with furious nerves and rebelled, she will destroy all that she has built until then, change her profession, faith, life philosophy and with the unbelievable lightness of —nothing?? begin to learn, create, travel, conquer new spaces from the beginning.



^^^this is true. but i'm a taurus and sooooo...WHAT? but given the adventure i will soon embark, i find the above of particular import especially given...



In astrology, the Dark Moon is representative of the darker side of our nature, the negative side. It is the hidden depths that we know exist yet we prefer not to acknowledge. It is subtle on the surface, yet profound beneath. It is the foundations of our personality and the shocking truth that we often deny and project onto others instead. The refusal to see what is really within ourselves. The subtle refusal to see what part we may have played in some unpleasant drama of our lives, how we ourselves have manifested our fears. It is the kind of thing that we intrinsically know we have to deal with, confront the darker side in order to progress unhindered, yet most often we try to ignore. It is the deeper truth that we are forever in search of within ourselves. Probably the best use we can make of the dark moon is to explore our hidden depths, realise that we all have that darker side and go within to resolve that which ultimately hinders us.



and thus, this is interesting and insightful as i do feel restless and tend to change a lot in the most random of ways and that's so untaurus like. go figure, i learned something today. thanks VK 😉

and the second excerpt came from http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/lilith-dark-moon.html for those who are interested.

Chaos Astrology has a good free chart site with transits and conjunctions and all kinds of details...

will check it out chicky. you're wearing that shell well 😉

@AA - my bff is lilith in libra too. i sent him that earlier. on a side note, there's one part of that passage that definitely sounds like you but uhm...yeah.

My Lilith is pisces....not sure if it completely fits or not....I'll have to read more.

oooooooh, i was about to go when i clicked one one more site about lilith - http://www.angelfire.com/az/zodiacenterprises/LILART.html

don't have the time to read it all and this is somewhat unrelated but i recall watching/reading something years ago where Jewish scholars in particular believe that the original woman was not "Eve" but was in fact...

i could never recall the name and it turns out it's Lilith. i always wanted to read up more on her because lilith, in short definition, was a bitch! she didn't like that whole "must submit" thing. she too was fashioned in God's image. eve however was crafted from adam's rib and is thus, part of him...not a reflection of God. thus, eve is a lesser mortal. can't wait to get back to read up more on lilith as she pertains to religion.

so yet again, VK's/virgo obsession with all things leo has proven productive 😉

and on that smart ass note...

ciao!

My Lilith is in Taurus.

which for me personally sucks.

Dr Zhivirgo

i kind of feel like lilith has a rather big impact on your personality. if every part of your chart is your good side, then that together creates one half of you. but lilith is really the only one that bothers to explore the dark side, so in a way, lilith is your second sign, as opposed to your moon or ascendant. in my opinion anyway. i think the combination of sun - lilith signs can create a rather interesting a mind-opening picture for yourself.

tubby.. as you put it, your gemini lilith gives you that restless geminian side that is uncharacteristic of your taurus sun. i find as a virgo sun, in addition to the fact that my chart is like 90% air, that my gemini lilith fits in rather well with the rest of the picture, although in a bit of a negative way.

Posted by Jason2213
I kind of hate my lilith.

why do you say that? and what sign is your lilith in?

not sure how i feel about my lilith. i dont hate it; as ive stated, i like gemini, as people, and the general sign of gemini as well. althouh i think its a little scary to have at the same time, knowing how dualistic gemini is, and how evil the sign can really be. i dont consider myself evil by any means but there definitely some "dr. jekyl/mr. hyde" stuff going on lol

Leo too.

Posted by tubbyscubby
oooooooh, i was about to go when i clicked one one more site about lilith - http://www.angelfire.com/az/zodiacenterprises/LILART.html don't have the time to read it all and this is somewhat unrelated but i recall watching/reading something years ago where Jewish scholars in particular believe that the original woman was not "Eve" but was in fact... i could never recall the name and it turns out it's Lilith. i always wanted to read up more on her because lilith, in short definition, was a bitch! she didn't like that whole "must submit" thing. she too was fashioned in God's image. eve however was crafted from adam's rib and is thus, part of him...not a reflection of God. thus, eve is a lesser mortal. can't wait to get back to read up more on lilith as she pertains to religion. so yet again, VK's/virgo obsession with all things leo has proven productive 😉 and on that smart ass note... ciao!

What please the only one who has a leo obssesion is u there under us virgos.. I can't believe i have that in my chart.. well its the only leo planet i have everything else is virgo the better sign 😉

i think he mistook u for legendary virgo lol

I guess so zen with him always talking about his leo moon i don't know if he likes being a virgo or not..

lol well idk about that but despite all the libra and gemini in me im very proud to be a virgo.. i think anybody should be proud of their sun sign

but its also nice to be proud of the rest of your chart as well :]

Posted by virgoking
What please the only one who has a leo obssesion is u there under us virgos.. I can't believe i have that in my chart.. well its the only leo planet i have everything else is virgo the better sign 😉

ahh virgos. missed you guys.

note to self, preface humor with..."joke:" end with "smile."

ohhh.. yea i wouldnt like having my lilith in that sign lol

@jase - stop being so depressing. i think when i interpret "dark side" i don't see it as being negative. i mean look at the story of lilith herself...before it turned into some crazy mythological experiment...

she was a woman with a type-a personality. she was equal to man in all ways. she didn't believe/think she was on the same plane with adam...she KNEW it because it was true.

now in today's world, that makes her a feminist, a bitch and a suspected lesbian. but only because we have been taught through the years, via religion mainly, that women are to submit...women are luna/eva/"lit side" of the moon and this is our "natural" role when in fact, it's one half of a whole.

i think finding ways to embrace the good aspects of your lilith will make you happier and more fulfilled. otherwise, cappy will be knocking at the walls of your inner sanctum screaming "let me out!" you can't kill the bitch and there's some beauty/strength in that.

so for me, if my thirst for knowledge affliction is to be blamed on gemini, i can look to gemini to figure out how to get my brain to go off so that i can do what tauruses do best...eat and sleep 😛

Posted by zen

Posted by V—CancerianAries
Lilith in Gemini

http://sanjaperic.wordpress.com/2009/03/15/lilith-in-gemini/

My lilith is in gemini as well. i read that page a while back... its so incredibly spot on. i love reading about lilith, it's fascinating how accurate it is compared to the vagueness of some of the other planetary placements

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Yeah, I think it's almost full on accurate.. I wonder if that's one of the reasons why I can be quite talkative. LOL.. are you the same way? Especially those moments when I am talking about something and there is no end to it. It kind of gets all over the place!! o_O Maybe that's the Gemini in action.

^^^^hell yes! OMG! i feel some lilith love coming on right now.

my conversations are like mazes at times. i might start talking about what i'm going to eat for lunch and end up discussing nuclear disarmament and YET, somehow will be able to end the discussion with a decision on what i'm going to eat. it's all related.

i've now worked, "just bear with me, it will all make sense" into my conversations.

if not that, then, "oh wait, shoot, i'll get back to that but on a side note..."

or worse, if i forget what i'm saying, i will admit that i've gotten off topic but will continue talking b/c i'll eventually get back on track. in other words, i took a wrong turn in the maze 🙂

idk i just go wherever the conversation takes me lol but yes i love to tlk

I don't know Cathy, at times I feel very tempted 😄

I have Lilith in Taurus [...] inclines towards an extraordinary love for beauty and a great deal of emotional activity. You look for security in a relationship, and like to show off your good taste and good looks. Conversely however, you may eventually become disillusioned by your material dependence, thus losing a sense of balance in your life as well as your emotional harmony. It is very difficult to change your habits, to free you from your roots. Life will oblige you to break your environment. You will have emotional problems because you will not have the love reassurance you need.

Pretty much true.

Lilith in Virgo. I don't consider this a dark side.

Posted by venusianbull
Lilith in Virgo. I don't consider this a dark side.

and why shouldnt you? the dark side of virgo is quite dark indeed...

capricorn.

Posted by zen

Posted by venusianbull
Lilith in Virgo. I don't consider this a dark side.

and why shouldnt you? the dark side of virgo is quite dark indeed...

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I like the Dark Side, there's cookies.

Posted by cathy89
Haha, all part of my evil master plan of course 😄 *must seduce enfant*

I wish I could be more of a challange but your mission is accomplished. Question is where do we go from here? 😉

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