Working with and for a bunch of women is exactly like being back in high school if not worse!

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Things have turned very dramafull at my workplace. People I thought were my friends and more than just coworkers had me fooled. (Shame on me). I’m old enough to know better.

There have been recent management changes at my job and that’s when things started going downhill. The Gemini assistant director has now become director after the old director was fired and a Scorpio coworker has moved up into the assistant director roll.

There are two women I work with who I thought were cool. A Capricorn who is fun to be around and awesome outside of the workplace, but sucks as a coworker because she is lazy and anyone who knows her will say the same thing. I should also mention that she is really close to the Gemini director and they recently found out they are family….like second or third cousins.

The other female I thought was cool is a Sagittarius who is also loads of fun and whom I’ve confided in and vented to on numerous occasions because she also confides and vents to me. Her, myself and the Capricorn female are all friends…..or so I thought. The Sag often vents to me about how she loves the Cap to death as a friend outside of work, but as a coworker she sucks because she is so damn lazy and she refuses to be her direct partner because she watched myself and the Cap work directly together for so long and how I did all the work and picked up the slack.

This Sag also vents to me often about the job, management, the drama going on and how she threatens to put in her two week notice daily because she can’t stand working there any longer. Everything she vents to me stays between her and I and I thought what I vented to her stayed between her and I as well. I even said to her on multiple occasions “please keep this between you and I” and she always swears it will. I should also mention that most of our venting to each other is through text.

I should also mention in the midst of all of this, the Gemini director and Scorpio assistant director have major power trips and it feels like they are trying to divide the staff and force us to pick sides….like either we are team director or team assistant director. I like them both as people and don’t want to be on one side or another, but it’s as if being neutral is forbidden! The Scorpio assistant director also is trying to get the Gemini director fired so she can take her job. She goes above her head reporting her to the regional manager all the time. Yet the regional manager and the director is close so everything that is being reported whether it’s truth or lies is getting back to the director by the regional.

Well the other day the Cap comes to me and says “you need to talk to the director!” I’m like ummm why? She tells me that a little birdie told her some things that you said about her, the job etc. and how you said you don’t get paid enough for this and is to the point of walking out.. She said the director was shown word for word what you said with time stamps and everything. I’m thinking the only person whom I said this to was the Sag! So for whatever reason she is showing these texts to the director or either she is showing them to the Cap and the Cap is relaying it to then director.

The Cap was like now you know the type of person the Sag is and you need to watch what you say around her. I’m thinking to myself not only did I vent to this Sag confidentially about the job, the boss, the drama etc. but I also vented to her about how lazy the Cap is so I’m 100% certain the Cap knows this too. I’m pissed because I sometimes have bad days and need an outlet to vent my frustrations and thought I could do that confidentially to the Sag, but now I see that I can’t. I’ve also noticed now that the Sag and Cap are super close. They will talk shit about each other behind each others backs, but yet are thick as thieves.

Also, the Cap told me that it was also told to the director that I threatened to go over her head and report her to the regional manager. I’m thinking wait a minute here…..those words I know for a fact NEVER left my mouth and I have never put that in a text to anyone so who is lying on me and why— The Cap told me I really needed to talk to the Gemini director because her feelings are really hurt and she thought you and her were cool with each other.

The only person I can think of who would tell the director I was going to report her to the regional manager would be the Scorpio assistant director because she will often come in my classroom talking shit about the director to me which I do not engage in and then she will say “you should talk to the regional manager about this and report these things.” It has been confirmed by other coworkers that she will twist information and people’s words.

Anyway, I did have a talk with the director to clear the air because I noticed she has been acting differently towards me. Not responding to my texts like she used to and just kind of avoiding me. Even after I talked to her things still are just not the same and I suppose they never will be.

It’s just sad how people you think are friends will go behind your back in an instant. Women are vicious and working at a place with nothing but women is pure torture and insanity. I no longer trust anyone there. They are all coworkers and bosses now and nothing more. I have no friends in the workplace. They don’t and can’t exist. I go there merely to get a job done and go home. I talk to no one unless spoken to. The Cap and Sag still try to be friendly to me and joke around, but it all feels so fake now and I don’t trust them so I’ll be cordial back, but I don’t engage further and I am colder. I sure as hell don’t confide or vent to either of them anymore as well as nobody else who works there. It’s just sad because I have bought both of these women lunches on numerous occasions, driven them home so they don’t have to pay for an uber (they both don’t have cars), bought them both nice birthday and Christmas gifts etc. But I’m done.
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My sister worked at a bank for 20 years and it's her rule to almost never gossip about anyone at work. Even when everyone else is gossiping about someone she tells them she doesn't have any ideas, doesn't agree or disagree lol

But she vents daily/weekly to her friend /husband so vent to your family/friends/internet outside of work instead 😛 just get it out of your system and you will be fine. My sister vented , even cried for an hour sometimes and then went on her day like nothing happened 😂
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If nobody else will tell you this, I will. Keep to yourself. Ain't nothing in this world say you gotta have friends. For this exact reason why I don't care to have friends, don't care to socialize, don't feel no kinship with people and don't care about people. Just do what your job calls for and mind your business. I'm the type I wouldn't mind bosses or whatever show me the ropes of the job, tell me what they need done and go about their business and leave me alone let me work alone to myself if there's something I don't understand I'll let them know. I thought you had done learn this lesson with your previous employment calling some of those folks over there your friends only to get betrayed and backstabbed. Yall got to learn people ain't no good especially if you an introvert. If you really and I mean truly introverted that's the mindset you WILL carry. No ifs ands and buts about it.
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I’m sorry this happened but I’m surprised you haven’t experienced this sooner.

People try to get me to gossip at work and it goes like this:

Them: does it bother you when so and so tries to tells you how to do your job?

Me: I wouldn’t say it bothers me. I do appreciate their input but I do question it from an efficiency standpoint.

Embrace your inner politician and always give non answers that you can clarify later if asked, or walk yourself out of it
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Quietly look for a new job. It’s time to blow this pop stand! I hate to say it but a woman’s worst enemy can be other women. Also, I’ve learned this about workplaces: just be cordial to all, but not friends with anyone. Just do your job and go home. Maybe look for social groups that you can join where you do activities of your hobbies/interests outside of your job to make friends.

Do you know any other details about the Sag’s chart like moon sign, mercury, etc.?
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Quietly look for a new job. It’s time to blow this pop stand! I hate to say it but a woman’s worst enemy can be other women. Also, I’ve learned this about workplaces: just be cordial to all, but not friends with anyone. Just do your job and go home. Maybe look for social groups that you can join where you do activities of your hobbies/interests outside of your job to make friends.

Do you know any other details about the Sag’s chart like moon sign, mercury, etc.?


Sun Sagittarius 21°16'

Moon Leo 15°09'

Mercury Capricorn 11°18'

Venus Capricorn 20°40'

Mars Pisces 28°22'

Jupiter Virgo 18°12'

Saturn Cancer 11°13'

Uranus Aquarius 29°25'

Neptune Aquarius 11°09'

Pluto Sagittarius 19°49'

Lilith Gemini 4°01'

N Node Taurus 20°04
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Quietly look for a new job. It’s time to blow this pop stand! I hate to say it but a woman’s worst enemy can be other women. Also, I’ve learned this about workplaces: just be cordial to all, but not friends with anyone. Just do your job and go home. Maybe look for social groups that you can join where you do activities of your hobbies/interests outside of your job to make friends.

Do you know any other details about the Sag’s chart like moon sign, mercury, etc.?

Sun Sagittarius 21°16'

Moon Leo 15°09'

Mercury Capricorn 11°18'

Venus Capricorn 20°40'

Mars Pisces 28°22'

Jupiter Virgo 18°12'

Saturn Cancer 11°13'

Uranus Aquarius 29°25'

Neptune Aquarius 11°09'

Pluto Sagittarius 19°49'

Lilith Gemini 4°01'

N Node Taurus 20°04
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🤔 Interesting! Your moon and her moon is the same! You probably trusted her because of that, but she probably wanted a part of the drama at work, so she gossiped. My only explanation of it!
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That's pretty normal from what I've experienced. Men do it too but way more discreet which ironically is even more feminine lol.

At one of my last jobs, I tried the opposite approach of delving deep into the gossip, so much so that people stopped telling me things, and I was so much more comfortable that way.


i know everyone thinks men with fire sign energies (not always sun) are super masculine and I don't disagree

but they also give off Real Housewives table-flipping energies ngl
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personally, i've always been drawn to fanfics of the Black sisters (Harry Potter) as a kid coz i've always wanted to have sisters then later on got really into the Frozen fandom because that wish never really died for me. had 3 brothers (tho one of them died as a baby).

oh and i'm kinda sexist in reverse like if a dude told me some sob story vs. a lady, i'm more inclined to believe her. and i find attention-hoeing somewhat acceptable in a woman but disgusting on a man. also i had this phase in my late teens to early 20s where i kept encountering creeps so in revenge, i'd ragebait incels and i kid you not, i cannot sleep without leaving something subtly inflammatory against them- usually about hair loss 😆😆

the only women that clashes with me tend to be puppets of men (pickmes).
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That's pretty normal from what I've experienced. Men do it too but way more discreet which ironically is even more feminine lol.

At one of my last jobs, I tried the opposite approach of delving deep into the gossip, so much so that people stopped telling me things, and I was so much more comfortable that way.


i know everyone thinks men with fire sign energies (not always sun) are super masculine and I don't disagree

but they also give off Real Housewives table-flipping energies ngl
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Yeah, they command attention. As an Air sign I see that as a weakness tho cause I can easily turn my attention on or off. But they prob see our passivity as lame as well. Each elements strength is super limited.

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That's pretty normal from what I've experienced. Men do it too but way more discreet which ironically is even more feminine lol.

At one of my last jobs, I tried the opposite approach of delving deep into the gossip, so much so that people stopped telling me things, and I was so much more comfortable that way.


i know everyone thinks men with fire sign energies (not always sun) are super masculine and I don't disagree

but they also give off Real Housewives table-flipping energies ngl

Yeah, they command attention. As an Air sign I see that as a weakness tho cause I can easily turn my attention on or off. But they prob see our passivity as lame as well. Each elements strength is super limited.

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I don't know about that. It seem we air signs command that. Everywhere I go people take command especially in a small room full of people. I turn heads and dare I say I stop everyone in their tracks. Air signs has it bro. The introverted ones at best and we don't even have to say nothing to command attention.
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Posted by FuelAirPropellant
That's pretty normal from what I've experienced. Men do it too but way more discreet which ironically is even more feminine lol.

At one of my last jobs, I tried the opposite approach of delving deep into the gossip, so much so that people stopped telling me things, and I was so much more comfortable that way.


The absolute worst demographic to work with is men or women in their late 50s who’ve been in unhappy marriages since their 20s.

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I typed this up yesterday & saved it bc I wanted to vent in-depth with numerous anecdotes, but ive since lost steam. But im glad i now have some freedom to just up and leave problematic workplaces. Man that's one thing I hate about Dahlia who Pezz the Virgo is pressuring me to be friends with just bc shes open to it and its "only proper" that i have a friend. She quit her WFH job bc she has adhd and cant focus without the structure of an office. Cunt I would SLIT MY WRISTS for a WFH job where im not ravaged by respiratory viruses 4x a year and forced to work through it bc we're not given or discouraged from using sick time. I mean coughing and snotting all over the place is less embarrassing when no ones watching, plus the freedom of your own bathroom you can enter at leisure? Are you serious?

Anyway

"Management cultivates and nurtures these toxic cultures up the chain. Its funny when some piece of shit is allowed to reign terror in one dept or branch, then they transfer and are instantly fired. (That said its also happened to me at both of the organizations im speaking of, where the less toxic of the areas was the one to fire me-- but I dont speak enough to be some bully queen bee)

When a workplace makes you cry almost shiftly, its profoundly sick. And it can sound so dumb when you describe it from the outside, but the mk ultra tactics people can master at work are seriously impressive. I figure they have to be neglected at home to feel the need to pull this shit at work- thats usually the case when you see women wasting a lot of time creating unpleasant social interdynamics. Like how do you even have the energy is what I always want to know. Since my mid20s ive been exhausted every workday and wondered how tf my peers are motivated to be so mad at my parallel, silent existence."

Actually in some cases they were mad that I made fat shaming statements and sex abuse jokes at one point, but me doing that once and keeping to myself thereafter (plus trying to explain profusely and apologizing) doesnt mean its right for you to use your words as knives thereafter and treat me like im the ugliest swamp goblin.
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That's pretty normal from what I've experienced. Men do it too but way more discreet which ironically is even more feminine lol.

At one of my last jobs, I tried the opposite approach of delving deep into the gossip, so much so that people stopped telling me things, and I was so much more comfortable that way.


i know everyone thinks men with fire sign energies (not always sun) are super masculine and I don't disagree

but they also give off Real Housewives table-flipping energies ngl


Yeah, they command attention. As an Air sign I see that as a weakness tho cause I can easily turn my attention on or off. But they prob see our passivity as lame as well. Each elements strength is super limited.

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I don't know about that. It seem we air signs command that. Everywhere I go people take command especially in a small room full of people. I turn heads and dare I say I stop everyone in their tracks. Air signs has it bro. The introverted ones at best and we don't even have to say nothing to command attention.
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Yup. I meant command as in forcefully. We don't force it. We don't need it either.
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That's pretty normal from what I've experienced. Men do it too but way more discreet which ironically is even more feminine lol.

At one of my last jobs, I tried the opposite approach of delving deep into the gossip, so much so that people stopped telling me things, and I was so much more comfortable that way.


The absolute worst demographic to work with is men or women in their late 50s who’ve been in unhappy marriages since their 20s.

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Haha didn't think about that. I was working with one that fits in that range. So true.
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Posted by FuelAirPropellant
That's pretty normal from what I've experienced. Men do it too but way more discreet which ironically is even more feminine lol.

At one of my last jobs, I tried the opposite approach of delving deep into the gossip, so much so that people stopped telling me things, and I was so much more comfortable that way.


You're such a bundle of laughs. Ironically that seems like a good strategy to keep HR off your back. If you say "No Sarah, making hateful comments about Jessica bc you think Travis is cheating on Leslie with her just makes you toxic and mean" is a one way ticket to HR

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That's pretty normal from what I've experienced. Men do it too but way more discreet which ironically is even more feminine lol.

At one of my last jobs, I tried the opposite approach of delving deep into the gossip, so much so that people stopped telling me things, and I was so much more comfortable that way.


You're such a bundle of laughs. Ironically that seems like a good strategy to keep HR off your back. If you say "No Sarah, making hateful comments about Jessica bc you think Travis is cheating on Leslie with her just makes you toxic and mean" is a one way ticket to HR

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That's exactly what I would do. I would pin people against each other, mainly supervisors. I wasn't getting paid enough to take on that much responsibility. "Robert said to send it off this way, who's really in charge?"

Yeah I worked at the same type of factory you mentioned one time. I was the one in charge of the packaging line plus I was a floater for 2 other positions. I basically knew how to do everything except mixing and opening valves at the control room.

So I knew everyone and talked to absolutely everyone. It felt worse than highschool mixed with Dawson's Creek. I would get my work done too so no one could complain on that aspect
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I have worked in an all female and an all male environment.

I will tell you this... men are FAR FAR worse they are way more gossipy way more nosey and way way more machiavellian.

You have no idea.

I work for a gaming company right now.. its all men the clients are all men... its way worse.


You’re right, men are worse than women with gossiping, nosiness, and they are more Machiavellian. I think we see examples of that on Dxpnet crop up here and there.
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I have worked in an all female and an all male environment.

I will tell you this... men are FAR FAR worse they are way more gossipy way more nosey and way way more machiavellian.

You have no idea.

I work for a gaming company right now.. its all men the clients are all men... its way worse.

You’re right, men are worse than women with gossiping, nosiness, and they are more Machiavellian. I think we see examples of that on Dxpnet crop up here and there.
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I agree. 100%

The end justifies the means. Men can ruthless. But sometimes that gets things done and puts food on the table.

It been a political and power based world for thousands of years. That is how you put food on the table.

Men evolved to be that. The direct caveman thing is not correct. You need machiavellian cunning and guile to take game down.

Its not a bad thing. But its the truth. You just have to know how to harness that energy.