is it just Venus in the 11th or

you feel more fulfilled by friendships than romantic relationships, like you feel it works better?

i was prob 8 when i met this leo sun/virgo moon (i'd later realize) kid who was drawing the eye of horus on what looked like a stack of papers he stapled together. first time i've ever felt interest in anyone other than myself. all i know about him is that he got in trouble for punching a wooden door once and it broke. so he was known for his temper. red flag right? but i'm like i wanna talk to this kid. lol i never changed. apparently, he was crazy over my aqua friend-one of my best friends even now. but even at that age, this girl straight up said she wanted to enter the religious order. i thought that was creepy. as a kid, i thought religion was when you wake up in pitch darkness then try to feel for a wall coz there might be a giant hole in the room then find yourself on top of a high tower. small and insignificant in the vastness of the world. completely helpless. is god a giant squid? or was that a cult? i thought she must be a brave girl, no wonder he liked her.

day in, day out from monday to friday he'd whine non-stop about how this girl never gave him the time of day while we eat lunch together hidden in the school gym. 20 years of friendship later and i joke to myself that maybe i just like background noises when i'm eating. his friend from japan ends up in our class. he was a capricorn so obvi i wanted him. we went to prom together. he made me cry, we broke up and he went back to japan. so now i get to whine day in, day out this time until we separately ended up in unis that are known for being sports rivals. so we end up having lunch together inside a gym. just like old times.

then i get another capricorn boyfriend coz i never learn. caught me whining to the leo. enraged for his reputation, cap told him to stay out of things. with his bad temper, leo threatened cap if he ever dared hurt me. this cap almost broke my wrist trying to get my phone, telling me to block leo. cap started kissing my wrist, saying he didn't mean to do that. i apologized to the leo and blocked him coz am stoopid. but now i'm not allowed to have a phone. why is this my life? i'm the only one who even pays for this apartment. it was dark and he's fallen asleep. this HAS to be religion. it's dark and i feel helpless. coz when i submit, i do it so completely. but anyway, he made me cry and we broke up.

i unblocked the leo and he casually shrugged this off as temporary insanity on my part.

leo-aqua axis ❤️

I envy your drama.

Posted by Weeds

I envy your drama.

😎😎

i wish it was more peaceful tbh

Posted by -Capriquarius

I wouldn't be so understanding if you would let your partner interfere in friendship. I don't let mine do it and is not telling him who he can befriend.

For me friendship is Saint. If my best friend's partner would try to control our connection and my bestie would let him that would be very bad and I would feel like she's not treating me seriously.

Also I don't know where you get such a aggressive Capricorns Lol mine is straight forward but never force anything on me. You really have no luck with them.

but they're so hot. i find them extremely attractive and i feel it's mutual with the way they approach me. BUT it sours later on.

i don't mind being passive in relationships but i felt he was very cruel to me later on.

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Posted by -Capriquarius

I wouldn't be so understanding if you would let your partner interfere in friendship. I don't let mine do it and is not telling him who he can befriend.

For me friendship is Saint. If my best friend's partner would try to control our connection and my bestie would let him that would be very bad and I would feel like she's not treating me seriously.

Also I don't know where you get such a aggressive Capricorns Lol mine is straight forward but never force anything on me. You really have no luck with them.

but they're so hot. i find them extremely attractive and i feel it's mutual with the way they approach me. BUT it sours later on.

i don't mind being passive in relationships but i felt he was very cruel to me later on.

Maybe that's the deal, you have to be more firm with them. What was his placments? Mine has mostly water so maybe that's why.

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pisces moon, aqua venus, sag mars

Posted by Wizardz2

Have you tried entering a relationship where you agree upfront to be submissive? From everything I've read that you write you seem like someone who has masochistic tendencies. There's plenty of people who enjoy those type of relationships and it's a whole lot better to talk about it upfront with someone who has experience and knows what they are doing and can have that kind of relationship with you respectfully and safely. You might find it a whole new type of satisfying.

Because it sounds to me that you're, perhaps subconsciously, encouraging these drama and violence filled relationships and it could end up with you getting seriously hurt

masochist? am i? i don't know but i suppose this isn't the first time i've heard this said in relation to me. just that i still don't understand it.

but say that was the case, there are actually 'cooperative' people about this that's not bordeline abusive?

dude i'mma have to delete this thread soon lmao

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Posted by Wizardz2

Have you tried entering a relationship where you agree upfront to be submissive? From everything I've read that you write you seem like someone who has masochistic tendencies. There's plenty of people who enjoy those type of relationships and it's a whole lot better to talk about it upfront with someone who has experience and knows what they are doing and can have that kind of relationship with you respectfully and safely. You might find it a whole new type of satisfying.

Because it sounds to me that you're, perhaps subconsciously, encouraging these drama and violence filled relationships and it could end up with you getting seriously hurt

masochist? am i? i dont't know but i suppose this isn't the first time i've heard this said in relation to me. just that i still don't understand it.

but say that was the case, there are actually 'cooperative' people about this that's not bordeline abusive?

dude i'mma have to delete this thread soon lmao

You've heard of bdsm? There are millions of people who get off on various degrees of control, punishment, humiliation etc etc

If you've never thought about yourself in that way then I know it might seem odd to you but every relationship you've ever talked about seems to involve a controlling boyfriend and some sort of punishment/deprivation on your part (like not being allowed a phone). Maybe that's just what you like.. ? Virgos are known for being submissive anyway

I'm saying, if that is the case then you'd be better off being aware of it and looking to connect with someone who knows that is what they want also. Otherwise, you might be subconsciously pushing relationships that way with guys who aren't prepared for it and don't know what they're doing and you'd be surprised by the emotional toll it takes on the one who is in the dominant role, it is a lot of responsibility and if they are not accustomed to dealing with it they can lash out. I'm not excusing any violent behaviour but I'm saying you should be careful what buttons you push, even if you're doing it subconsciously. Plus as per the topic of the thread, you're finding these relationships unsatisfying

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yeah, i've heard but never really thought of myself that way. i've allowed my phone to be taken but instead of creating peace, he'd harrass me about it. if an ex bf tried to reach out, he'd act like it's my fault. i know i'm clean and boring so i couldn't care less if he had it for months.

my friends often called me an 'enabler,' that i allow too many freedoms instead of establishing boundaries. i feel like a failed Virgo coz aren't we about boundaries? apparently, all that can create a monster out of anyone. but why couldn't you remain good even without my control? you're a grown man who knows right from wrong. even if you had a lot of power and control over me, why use it to hurt me?

but this complex that i seem to have doesn't always mean anything sexual. for example, in every workplace i go to there's always someone who approaches me (often a man) and would always establish themselves as a father figure. and i go along with whoever this man is. often, they would make an order upon meeting me. then when i obey, they never leave me alone. but it feels protective.

presently, there is a leo at work who serves this role for me. and this is a relationship that i LIKE. i barely talk and usually just nod or shake my head no. i notice these men don't do these to others. i'm the only one treated this way. i didn't understand what was going on at first until i noticed this pattern.

i feel like my ex was a blend of these 2 things which is really messed up on my part 🤔🤔

Whoa. This was poetic. I hope you use these experiences to create inspiring art!

On a Capricorn note, whole sign houses with sun at the 1st house (not assuming rising sign), Cappy is in the 5th house of love and romance. Could be why you are attracted to that sign/energy.

I dated a Cappy before. I'm a Virgo. It was my longest relationship actually. It's natural to cater to the Cappy ego, you know, but when they're wrong or doing something stupid that affects you on such a deep level, standing your ground is a strong feminine move that garners respect. Cappys are all about respect and honor, you know... so be true to yourself, even if most of the time you enjoy dancing to his whims. Be the queen who knows when to take charge!

Cheers~.

@Wizardz2

and it wasn't really the leo sun/virgo moon's reputation for violence that made me talk to him. but his lack of control made him unpopular. and i remember all the other kids just being so loud, talking about the latest craze on tv and this boy was just in the corner drawing the eye of horus in a book he's trying to write. an 8-yr old kid trying to write some egyptian myths. wild.

this kid marched to the beat of his own drum even if he suffered for it and i wanna sit right next to this mad lad 🙌🏿🙌🏿

I think it’s your upbringing more so then Astro placements/house. I also have avoidant attachment tendencies. Blame it on our parents, not the chart.

It's not just you. If the chemistry and dynamic is wanted, friendship is a excellent base for a long term relationship.

Posted by Aquarelle

Not sure if it's because venus in 11th. I have venus in 7th (partnerships) but still do much better in friendships than in relationships. Oh well, I'll just blame my Aqua sun for that.

well I have venus in libra 7th house I cant tolerate people in general Lol much less have friends. It's not like I hate people they just annoy me a lot.