One big 12th house with three signs in it

What would you expect for a child with her 12th beginning at the Aquarius 25 degree and ending at Aries 6 degree?

With Aquarius Neptune, Pisces Venus and Aries Uranus in there?

Uranus conjunct Rising with orb=5.

genius? drug addict? The confused beautiful? The beautiful liar?

The ruler of the 12th (Uranus) is in its own house.

By the way the father has Sun in Pisces. Child's Venus conjuncts his Sun with orb=3

What brings Sun, Mercury and Pluto in the 10th?

All in Capricorn.

Posted by elllle:

"genius? drug addict? The confused beautiful? The beautiful liar?"

Pick one and she will do the opposite.

You know enough about Neptune that you know it cannot be defined.

She just needs a nurturing and supportive home....and she will be fine. Her definition of fine, not yours....lol

thank you, elllle. Indeed she is always surprising us. we are always exchanging reports about what she said or did. maybe for being better able to define or label her.

Posted by elllle

I would expect a weird child.

- someone with three big planets in there

she refuses to learn for the school but is interested in the stuff if a grown-up offers time to learn through games. might need a special school. let's see.

Posted by LethalFantasia

This is why I personally believe that no two children or whatever should be communicated with/addressed/raised the exact same

Even like the "best" parenting techniques may work on like the biggest % of group of children but it still doesn't cover a huge % in my personal opinion

With a child like that, I'd probably be really sensitive to their feelings, encourage them/put them in like classes or whatever where they could channel all that creative/dreamy energy, do exercises that focus on concentration and being 'in the moment' (puzzles are great for this, anything where you have to put all of your energy and concentration into, even coloring books), like I don't know to be honest, I've never had a child, but I would be a little more attentive with a heavy 12th house influenced one x

yes, when you were writing this I wrote that she learns better when we are involved in the learn process.

in the past she has tried to avoid the school by telling stories to her mother.

ah, elllle, I 'm so happy you made a stop at this thread. it's all so heart warming news. we should let us be lead too, I guess.

fortunately enough the majority of us are mutable signs. but also two cardinals. well, cardinals can adapt too, I've read here on dxp.

we try to teach her order and rules. she tends to disorder. I guess she believes there will be always somebody who will care for order of the things. For Venus conjunction Neptune Cafeastrology writes: "... sometimes downright lazy ..."

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Posted by LethalFantasia

This is why I personally believe that no two children or whatever should be communicated with/addressed/raised the exact same

Even like the "best" parenting techniques may work on like the biggest % of group of children but it still doesn't cover a huge % in my personal opinion

With a child like that, I'd probably be really sensitive to their feelings, encourage them/put them in like classes or whatever where they could channel all that creative/dreamy energy, do exercises that focus on concentration and being 'in the moment' (puzzles are great for this, anything where you have to put all of your energy and concentration into, even coloring books), like I don't know to be honest, I've never had a child, but I would be a little more attentive with a heavy 12th house influenced one x

yes, when you were writing this I wrote that she learns better when we are involved in the learn process.

in the past she has tried to avoid the school by telling stories to her mother.

It's very important that she feels SAFE with atleast one parental figure, you know?

Like "you can lie to others and make excuses but you don't have to pretend to be strong around me, I'm your parent!! I'm here to help you, if something is uncomfortable about school, let me know and we will change or fix it so you can succeed"

some kids need to know that they can trust one or both their parents or else they start getting in #troubles imo

x

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I get you. My impression was that her father can figure it out when she's trying to manipulate. the reason is simple. he has Sun and Mercury in Pisces. Her Venus conjuncts his Sun. but when he lies she doesn't try to expose him. most of the time not. until it is unimportant stuff and her Aries Rising cannot stop being bold. In other cases both have Libra Moon and try to be nice. verbally.

There's a lot of dynamics around her. exhausting if you wanted to respond to all of her impulses. computer games came about as a big help. to quieten her body.

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Posted by DwellingOnMove

ah, elllle, I 'm so happy you made a stop at this thread. it's all so heart warming news. we should let us be lead too, I guess.

fortunately enough the majority of us are mutable signs. but also two cardinals. well, cardinals can adapt too, I've read here on dxp.

we try to teach her order and rules. she tends to disorder. I guess she believes there will be always somebody who will care for order of the things. For Venus conjunction Neptune Cafeastrology writes: "... sometimes downright lazy ..."

Well, remember that the people who write those descriptions also have their own perception.

My little super virgo doesn't like school either. I don't know if it's so much the school part as it is having to tolerate others while there....lol.

We opted for Montessori so he wouldnt have so many rules and more free play but that is even challenging for him. Well, he is fine, it's the teachers who have sticks up their butts....lol.

He doesn't care to talk much. He is almost three. Mom is concerned. Dad and I say he is fine, let him be. He communicates with actions and he sings. He matches his voice with instruments. He seems very connected to music. The first toy I got him was a Beethoven ball. I didn't even know 😊

The older one, he is 7. All his 12th house is in Scorpio. He was a hide and seek player for a long time. Scared the crap out of his parents many times because he just hid too well. He is a talker....merc in Leo. He is all about justice and how things work. Points out all the bullies at school even if he has never spoken to them.

The little one is not quite 2 yet. He is growing into his Aries moon. The squeals are delightful. He is extremely independent and a daredevil with no fear. His 12th house is all in Libra like me, so he needs his space to explore.....we just have to make sure he doesnt break any bones. 🤣😂 *edit....one more thing - this one started walking right before 9 months. Most surreal thing I ever witnessed. He will want to debate with me. I can carry on conversation with him...even though neither of us know what the other is saying. It's hilarious because I think we are both just reading expressions.

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Oh, elllle, the pictures you draw!!!!! you know with my Pisces Moon I love children and what you write. this one with Aries Moon and walking with 8 months. the other one all about justice. hide and seek....

Yes, ours wants to play hide and seek all the time. but she wants just to be found. she doesn't need you to hide. she doesn't want to come and scare. only get stuck with hiding until you find her. does it have a psychological meaning generally speaking?

Montessori? I was thinking about Waldorfschule. I once read about Montessori but forgot it later. time to read again and see if they are alternatives or whatever else.

thank you very much for taking time and writing in more details.

Today there was a documentary about Agatha Christi. that she didn't attend to any school at all. I've had a guess that our 12th houser would be a second Joul Verne. for what else does she have Uranus and Neptune in the 12th, if not for fantasy and imagination. I searched for Agatha Christi on astrotheme. She does not have planets in her 12th house. But Part of Fortuna.

Posted by Araujo97

He must like to draw a lot

Yes, she can become absorbed by painting actions. especially using and producing colors.

Her drawing is still as simple as a child in her age, or maybe younger.

Posted by bumboklatt

Bad temper and manipulative

Where did you get the bad temper? Is it from the 12th house?

I thought it comes from Aries Rising. Plus Pluto conj. Mercury. Plus Pluto square Moon. Also Uranus conj. Rising in Aries.

BTW for sure manipulative. she tells lies in broad daylight.

She takes everything she can all the afternoon-evening-night long. then in the morning she says she has problems with the school and is terrified to go there.

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Posted by bumboklatt

Bad temper and manipulative

Where did you get the bad temper? Is it from the 12th house?

I thought it comes from Aries Rising. Plus Pluto conj. Mercury. Plus Pluto square Moon. Also Uranus conj. Rising in Aries.

BTW for sure manipulative. she tells lies in broad daylight.

She takes everything she can all the afternoon-evening-night long. then in the morning she says she has problems with the school and is terrified to go there.

Well 12th house is pisces house and im surrounded by people with this placement and in different signs too

Bad temper from first house placements combined with 12th house makes for highly emotional reactions

Also 12th house is manipulative cause pisces. But i wouldn't totally doubt everything they say because i do think they believe those things really exist in their mind

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well, my brother is Pisces Sun and I thought his bad temper comes from his Aqua Mars. he gets angry only on behalf of the justice. and at that moment he himself becomes unfair.

but maybe you are right. maybe I haven't seen Pisces with temper in my life. and this is why I assigend it to her Rising.

I absolutely agree with you that we have to start from there once a Neptunian claims a truth. maybe we can see new things by it. maybe we can anlayse the situation despite the degree of visibility of the stuff.