Any inputs about 'loyalty' for me here?

Well, the Aqua I am seeing has so many female friends that it bugs me at times. No, he doesnt really ignore me for them, but then this is a long distance with time differences so idk. I get weird thoughts that what if he ends up with this friend, or that...I know i am typically being a cancerian in that i need assurances..but still. We are planning marriage. But his ways are weird. He is so random and so aloof at times that I end up feeling maybe he is with some of his so called friend when he tells me he is cut off with people for a while. I mean can anyone please tell me whats this about? Sometimes calling all the time, and other times, just me being the one doing the calling! Well, he has job related issues so I can understand, but what do you guys think about the loyalty aspect of Aquas in a relationship?

Sun Aquarius 14.53
Moon Scorpio 8.39
Mercury Capricorn 19.43
Venus Pisces 6.55
Mars Pisces 13.54
Jupiter Sagittarius 7.02
Saturn Scorpio 4.23
Uranus Sagittarius 8.28
Neptune Sagittarius 28.25
Pluto Libra 29.32 R
Lilith Capricorn 25.25
Asc node Cancer 3.33

"Hey MC wait! He has venus in Pisces— I thought he had venus in SAG!"

-hahaha!!! yeah, that's moonmaiden guy's chart! my aqua is venus in SAG!!! but both my aqua and her aqua have moon in scorpio

Thanks guys, but MC and HLG...can you please tell me more about this, I mean i am a layman as far as charts are concerned 😢

bijou2u, we aren't engaged, but he has proposed.
He is to come back to the home country for that.
His details are as posted by MC....

So given this chart, is he someone loyal? Is he serious about things? I mean he sometimes acts so cold and emotionless...I don't get him...!

what do you mean by goes cold and emotionless?

I mean, calling lesser or at his own convenience as opposed to talking almost every day last month, and being quiet, or just logging out of a chat convo if i am sarcastic to him...Ok granted I shouldnt be so, but his acts are weird tht make me say things to him...Like today I was sarcastic abt a friend of his who he has spoken for hrs for quite a few days last month (i have his call logs, he gave me the passwd on his own) Obv I would hate if my guy is on fone with some long time childhood female friend, or whoever she is. So today when he said he missed me, I replied back saying how could you? you have people to accompany you...And he got pissed and asked me who ppl...I said I dont want to spoil my day by getting into that...And he was like fine have a good one...And logged off...
Ok I know i was being mean, but c'on i have feelings too!

hmm i guess true...I ll keep that in mind Vanessa... 🙂

mm, agree with v126. difference in communication style s. sarcasm to discuss important issues make people defensive.
how you communicate is vital if you're looking at long term. guys generally won't call you to offer reassurance, they'll rather show it in other forms.
communication makes or breaks - so choose means carefully I hope.
if you're thinking long term, you're not gonna have the luxury of signing off from a chat, etc... he may seek disappearing acts as coping mechanisms

omigosh...
this is so enlightening...
thanks so much HLG i really appreciate 🙂
i was also curious, what do you think abt him being open and truthful in relationships

I agree with you zen...but at times i get so pissed off, i cant tell...
its like those love-hate relationships
i feel like i love him too much to leave, but hate his ways the same to stay...
i guess ditto his side... grr

okay i get you so completely HLG...
Its so true that he has this tendency to avoid trouble (discussions, serious ones, in our case)
We just were talking random stuff and the moment i started discussing some serious stuff with him, he probably preferred running away, by giving some lame excuse that he has to work up his resumes....obv i was mad, wtf?! I wish he would come around more easily when facing tougher situations comes...

^^^ that signifies different communication style s. you're dating long distance and he still manages to evade ?
seriously analyse what's in front of you - do not ignore the signs and pull out the love card...
the only person you should feel you love too much to leave is a kid or disabled not able to care for themselves imho.

Holy fuck, that chart looks awfully familiar.

Hmm...Well Zen, good thought. But I'd be okay if my guy is a baby at times, LOL, i mean being a cancer gives me that "nurturing nature" and i find it oh-soo-cute at times. Ofcourse, anything in extreme is bad though 🙂 So I understand what you mean.

Oww really DK09? So is it you or someone else who has the same elements in their charts? Any inputs?

So HLG, what do you think about me and him combined...I mean looking at my details and his chart...

lol mm...
that's the last thing any person in a relationship wants...

if your nurturing side comes out, it should be that he's physically hurt or summat. you can't nurture truth and honesty out of anyone.

I like to believe everyone goes into relationships with people they consider equals.

if you intend to nurture a partner, then something is very off... you will be overcompensating for something that does not exist.
least of all an aqua male...

Hmm I guess Zen that is true in a way, i mean if its taken to the extreme. What I meant was once in a while, if he does the baby, i'd be fine 🙂 And he normally takes the role of the "caretaker", because i am a such a kid at times too! In a lighthearted way 🙂

I guess you summed it up well Leokitten...I may have been too insecure. He said that to me last night. Actually, he was quiet for quite some time, (days) and yesterday broke the silence. He vented out everything he thought was unfair. I never knew it meant that much to him. See, it went like this, some days back he went into his "aloof" state for some reason, i became irritated, a lot of things happened in between, then i checked his log (idk why, cz i never had before since i had had his passwd), i saw this number being called so many times (its the same network, so it gets free for them to talk, some promotional sceme), i was pissed, called him rightway and let it out, said its over and i aint interested in him no more, banged the fone, 2 days went by and i was so mad at him, when finally we spoke things got on-off, been a week, and now yday finally he let it out, he said "you think i am a womaniser when all i do is work, talk to you, catchup with few ppl that too on fone mostly, and was tutoring that friend of mine on some course subject whose calls you saw " (she is new to the US for studying, i am in a different country, strangely after she moved to the US he moved to her city, as is he needed to move as he is looking for a job, so he chose the same city and i still i never heard of her till i saw the calls), he was pissed and today when we spoke online he was a lil distant but eventually again came up with things like "How can you accuse me everytime" et al.
How am i supposed to take this as? He had options and chose the freaking same city to move same as her? And then when i ask him he points out that it gets lonely with your family et al away, and you need friends, company, its not abt a female, its abt company...I mean c'on, company? Wth! I found it a lil lame. Idk, you guys temme...

Well LK, i do agree...But idk what now...
He said that she is his childhood friend.
But i think he should ve told me earlier, when he was moving, that he knows someone there. He did say he has many friends in the city, but didnt take names. Well, anyway i am stuck now, he was clearly upset, not in a voilent way, in a quiet way.
He has proposed as in he has shown me his intentions of getting married, gona be almost a yr i am seeing him. He has been doing weird things in between, no doubt on that. We arent engaged as in we havent exchanged rings (as it happens in my country) yet cz he has to be here for that.

Well, but i dont want it to go down the drains...
And moreover, its not in my head...

ok so what more steady plans have you got following this engagement?
Is he moving back to your city? Are you moving?
Sorry I'm asking personal questions but seems you don't mind sharing...

How long did you date before he moved? How long have you known him?

The problem is Aqua guys and most guys analyse things in a logical manner...if you bug him enough, he will know how to cover his tracks...This is from experience...He will respond to you a few times, after that, you won't even find those loop holes like his log to check, etc...watch for that.

Last i saw him was 2 months back when he visited.
And yes, he has asked me the whole "will you marry me" thingy. Spoken to my folks. And so on.
I will be moving to his country as is planned after we are married...

Lil before he visited, and then when he was here...

We knew each other since highschool, then college but we were not dating then.
And he didnt see me for the first time when he visited as we knew each other already, just that he had moved to a different country to study and then work, yeah maybe it sounds weird but this is what it is.

bottom line mm, doesn't sound like you know this guy enough to be talking altar otherwise these issues will not be there.
how do you propose to work through them with him?
if you do get married, will he hide behind I've too much work to do so will help him cope ?

"your posts in august had him hiding from you...deleting messages on msn,,,,your friends checking on him...and him not talking to you for awhile."

---> Nooo, that never happened, whats that abt...we never used msn, in june he was travelling i may have said that, friends checking on him as in...? He was aloof is what i meant, which he keeps doing.

"he was pissed and today when we spoke online he was a lil distant but eventually again came up with things like "How can you accuse me everytime" et al."

-oh no!!! if he thinks you are accusing him, that is not good. please please start working on yourself and your insecurities so that you do not get suspicious and continue to accuse him of things that he is probably not even doing. please don't!!! been there, done that...NOT GOOD!!!

Yeah this is me.
But he didnt delete me from any messenger...
And my friends checking him out was never here in pic...
Thats what i said.

"you are still suspicious. you keep this up and i gaurantee he will be dumping you by months end."

-LK is right...the more your insecurities come out and the more suspicious you are of him, the more he will pull away. and he will NOT want to be with you anymore if you act like this. guaranteed!!!

like i said before, take this time to nurture yourself and your insecurities. look deep inside and ask yourself why you feel this way, because more than likely it stems from you and NOT him.

Aah yes, now i get it
No no he didnt delete me from any messenger,
and it was about him visiting the home country, which he hid form me in the beg, but eventually came arnd, cz he said he had some issues to deal with in the family first.

you said he was deleting the messages about him being in your country...and not contacting you....(the messages were not about ontacting you).

--> yes this happened. he did that initial days when he was here.

It is odd...but then he kinda "made up" to it all...
by meeting my folks et al.
Idk thats what makes me suspicious...

Hey MC...
Yeah i know i am insecure as hell at times...but then he is indeed wishy washy as LK out it...maybe we are extremes, me too exact at things and him too unclear or so

"meeting parents is kind of normal. how does meeting parents equal marriage?"

it is, but he spoke of the future plans to them. Which was long term ie marriage.

Idk, maybe you guys are right. I am living in this fantasy maybe. Afterall its just words when you say things to somone. Be it about marriage or love. How is it to be taken so for sure...Its lame of me. I feel sick in the head.

so mm,
on the topic of loving him too much to leave, what's is it about him that you want long term ?

Its his whole persona. I mean he is this cutest thing most of the times. Idk how to put it. A good human, attractive guy, very helpful with a soft heart, intelligent and fearless most of the times. Guess I have fallen for these qualities, but then maybe, i can find these in someone else...idk cz i am way too deep when i start a relationship. And people are superficial too, so idk if he is into the second group.

"Oww really DK09? So is it you or someone else who has the same elements in their charts? Any inputs?"

Your dude and I have a lot of similar placements. Practically almost all of them really. I also don't know the guy so anything I say would hold no weight. Plus, that's a lot of reading, a whole lot.

Thanks for your inputs bijou2u.
i have been asking him or rather telling him upfront that i think he is lying to me, at times. He eventually did tell me once or maybe more that these are my insecurities that lead me to it. Probably cz he was fed up or my accusations mabbe. IDK. According to him, he is not doing anything like sleeping with anyone or so, and he is this cute flirt but never has lost his poise. Thats what he tells me at times. He does have the same story when i keep questioning too. Like he sticks to the same. But he is sure weird. I get so suspicious. Like now some time back i called him, would be 3 in the night at his plc, but normally he is awake till late at this being a weekend so i called. i didnt use my cell cz it had some problem. i used my mom's. Now idk if he has the number, i think i have called him using it before but doubt if he had saved it. So anyway, he picked up in 2-3 rings. I just asked him "were you sleeping"? And he is like "yeah". Well, he didnt sound sleepy firstly, and i asked just for the heck, not tht i really felt he was sleeping. I asked him again "oh did i wake you up?" He is like" yeah" And he kinda answered in yes/no's. I ws like "okay i ll call you in the night mabbe then" And he probably just went like "yeah" and hung up! Ok he never really does so. Seemed like he wanted to hang up on me sooner the better. I called back again in 2 mns and no answer. Since then I kinda called like 9-10 times, but he DIDNT pick up once. I am getting all suspicious that maybe he had someone around or what..ok i know i am a lil hyper but wth he has done thie once-twice before too. And on the top of it all, he is like i dont really like frantic calls. Dont gimme so many calls, if i aint picking up, probably i am asleep or something. But idk. God i feel so idk. Not picking up once is stupid. And he cant give me the reason that he went off to sleep just after i hung up! Cz it was a 2 mn gap between first and second calls. I really feel he is weird in his acts. Also, gives me a feel that he'd ignored picking up when he knew it was me, cz initially the number would be new to him so he picked. I mean its so tiring...and strange.

So, what does it mean when a guy says "How can you even THINK of me womanizing when all i do is ..... ..... ..... etc"
I accused him of something like tht few days ago. Since then we were on-off. We kinda patched up last night when he called. And he was like how can you possibly call me that. I felt i was pushed away a number of lightyears wrt this relationship when you said tht.
Like he showed he found it really irritating when i said all that i did. I also told my best friend its over between me and him which he came to know. That pissed him off big time too. So, bijou2u, you think if after me openly suspecting him quite a few times nw and him saying he is pushed back, he is hiding/lying? I am confused.

I dont get him at times.
He is super sweet when we talk, but he has his disappearing acts too.
This being a LDR i get annoyed and insecured. Idk how to handle this guy!

His way of summing up any fight:
You cant take the distance. Even i can't many times. Thats what it is about. Nothing more. It'll be okay soon.
And i am left wondering wth.

Dk09,
Still if you have similarities, can you temme how would you respond in a relationship? I know Aquas wont like anyone clingy. I am not really so but when he does stupid things like not picking up his fone, i get MAD at him. And am sure this time when he hasnt picked it up, theres gona be a fight again. I am gona be all mad and him responding with some liner like "Is sleeping a crime" or something. Argh i so hate this love-hate relationship at times...
😢

UC, I know what you mean. ut answering once and then not answering just a min later? I mean it sometimes happens with international calling cards, that the fone gets disconnected on its own, so i tried in a min or 2, but no response knowing it was me put me off. So, i kinda started getting thoughts too. Like maybe he doesnt want me to ask him whats up or so, hence the hurried disconnection or whatever...

But* answering once

And i called at 3 because thats hi normal time, he is normally up till 2 or so, doing this or that. And this being a weekend, I kinda knew he would be up. So the call.