Keeping your virginity

topic to continue about keeping your virginity until marriage.

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to aquarius09,

i saw your post on the other topic.

i'm sorry but you seem to lack forgiveness. it's kind of like, do it my way or forget you. fierce i guess but unforgiving.

people aren't always think before you act. or act according to society's respectable -idealized version.

as for the topic:

i found this, thought it'd be really good for the theme:


http://medicalxpress.com/news/2011-07-women-idealized-sex-purveyed-romantic.html

"Above all we teach that sex may be wonderful and relationships loving, but neither are ever perfect and that idealising them is the short way to heartbreak," she writes.

"And while romance may be the wonderful foundation for a novel, it's not in itself a sufficiently strong foundation for running a lifelong relationship," she says

for the record, aquas, dont listen to anyone who tries to puff up your ego. just for clarification. it can be your downfall. it's nice and all, of course so just be careful.

just as it's not nice to be put down. no one likes it.

anyway, if people want to live in lovey dovey romantized world, that's fine. people do it all the time, according to various articles. but you dont really need articles to understand.

Posted by lisabethur8
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to aquarius09,

i saw your post on the other topic.

i'm sorry but you seem to lack forgiveness. it's kind of like, do it my way or forget you. fierce i guess but unforgiving.

people aren't always think before you act. or act according to society's respectable -idealized version.

as for the topic:

i found this, thought it'd be really good for the theme:


http://medicalxpress.com/news/2011-07-women-idealized-sex-purveyed-romantic.html

"Above all we teach that sex may be wonderful and relationships loving, but neither are ever perfect and that idealising them is the short way to heartbreak," she writes.

"And while romance may be the wonderful foundation for a novel, it's not in itself a sufficiently strong foundation for running a lifelong relationship," she says

You are absolutely right! I'm fierce and very unforgiving with rude people. If ppl acknowledge their rudeness, I'm mellow. Respect is not too much to ask, especially when it's free. I hope you're not justifying bad behaviour. Yes, there are people that are rude, but if ppl start to became "understanding" of wrongful behaviour, this society will be in chaos. So I called her out.

As for your article, I haven't checked it but what I do know is that no article will come close to human nature. No matter how modern the times get, human nature will always prevail. You should check out some of the preposterous "man emasculating" comments feminist phd holders write.

The comment which sort of flared up this discussion was a negative and belittling comment about a girl who has decided not to sleep around.
Marriage/ or no marriage does not come in this equation.
One poster plainly called the OP " sad " because she did not need to have sex just to prove how modern, liberated and womanly she is.

Is sleeping around the only criteria for a happy life ?

Isn't a girl entitled to resist the peer pressure of other women around her ---who consider sleeping around is a some sort of finish line to be crossed to validate their claim to womanhood----and maked her own decision whether she wants to have sex or not?


virginity/marriage has nothing to do with it.

And if as that poster said that how can you be sure that man you have chosen to sleep with it is a good or decent person ?
No one can be sure of anyone, but does that mean if the world is full of half-witted losers than a woman should sleep with all of them just because --for what ?

Is this the journey from girlhood to womanhood all about----bagging as many sexual partners as you can along the way ?

Posted by ShahBano
The comment which sort of flared up this discussion was a negative and belittling comment about a girl who has decided not to sleep around.
Marriage/ or no marriage does not come in this equation.
One poster plainly called the OP " sad " because she did not need to have sex just to prove how modern, liberated and womanly she is.

Is sleeping around the only criteria for a happy life ?

Isn't a girl entitled to resist the peer pressure of other women around her ---who consider sleeping around is a some sort of finish line to be crossed to validate their claim to womanhood----and maked her own decision whether she wants to have sex or not?


virginity/marriage has nothing to do with it.

And if as that poster said that how can you be sure that man you have chosen to sleep with it is a good or decent person ?
No one can be sure of anyone, but does that mean if the world is full of half-witted losers than a woman should sleep with all of them just because --for what ?

Is this the journey from girlhood to womanhood all about----bagging as many sexual partners as you can along the way ?

+1. According to the writer of the belittling comment, it wasn't supposed to be rude. The onus was on all of us to ask her what she meant by "sad". We weren't to assume that her blatant comment was condescending.

What a joke.

It's an individual choice.As long as you know you love yourself, respect and look after your body well enough, you're fine. I did not sleep with any man I was with and they seem ok with it. We had so much fun time of doing other stuff together and sharing ourselves in a different way. I did not sleep with my Aqua husband before married to him but we were very happy sharing our deep inner secrets and souls. He said " I feel like I'm getting deeper and deeper in you and in us. It isn't just an overwhelming kind of passion of wanting to join bodies only but it is so much more and I didn't notice it till it's flowing all over my body. There is no word to describe the bond we build. I'm suprised at myself."
Sex is lovely but we do something else too. It was the joinning of two understanding souls and the beginning of many different kind of love, affection and relationships between us. Not just as partners.
It's all up to you. I know my way of life worked for me and I'm happy.

Posted by exam
It's an individual choice.As long as you know you love yourself, respect and look after your body well enough, you're fine. I did not sleep with any man I was with and they seem ok with it. We had so much fun time of doing other stuff together and sharing ourselves in a different way. I did not sleep with my Aqua husband before married to him but we were very happy sharing our deep inner secrets and souls. He said " I feel like I'm getting deeper and deeper in you and in us. It isn't just an overwhelming kind of passion of wanting to join bodies only but it is so much more and I didn't notice it till it's flowing all over my body. There is no word to describe the bond we build. I'm suprised at myself."
Sex is lovely but we do something else too. It was the joinning of two understanding souls and the beginning of many different kind of love, affection and relationships between us. Not just as partners.
It's all up to you. I know my way of life worked for me and I'm happy.

Wow! This is so beautiful! I love this description because not only is this my exact sentiments on sex, but I really want that with a guy. Exam, you're very lucky to have found that with a guy, especially who turned oit to be your hubby. To me, sex isn't just a physical need. It's the connection of souls and so much more. A strong +1 here.

It is up to each person's decision what they do. It's a matter of your own values and beliefs and no one should be belittled for having those values. Self respect is more important than bowing down to peer pressure.

it's difficult to describe what the other person means, expressions and feelings and communication.
hell, i have a hard time with other people all the time. it's such a RELIEF when i dont even need to communicate it and that other person just understands. sigh. bliss.

but just because someone's ideals dont fit yours, it's allright... it'd be a boring world if everyone were the same.
then we wouldnt have need for books and how-to- articles and pamphlets to help out other people see things in a different perspective.

aquarius09, you're a difficult one you are 🙂 looked at your chart. wow, very challenging. stubborn is your middle name.

it's nice to read what you all believe in, in terms of morality, in what you deem good for society.

astrologers like to put aquarius on a pedastal, claiming aquas (in general) are the height of a higher civlization. they make it sound like we're gods...without feeling. (i guess they gotta put in that inhuman thing down) but i get where some of them are coming from. you can lose sight of it in the name of "justice" and forget the most essential things. and we're actually not the sign that exemplifies justice. but because they're up there in their god like realm, they will allow themselves or those who aren't deem good enough to enact the punishment. /introspection.

yet, without common ground with people. it's nothing, imo.

anyway wow got a headache. that sounded like something really far out there.

Posted by lisabethur8
it's difficult to describe what the other person means, expressions and feelings and communication.
hell, i have a hard time with other people all the time. it's such a RELIEF when i dont even need to communicate it and that other person just understands. sigh. bliss.

but just because someone's ideals dont fit yours, it's allright... it'd be a boring world if everyone were the same.
then we wouldnt have need for books and how-to- articles and pamphlets to help out other people see things in a different perspective.

aquarius09, you're a difficult one you are 🙂 looked at your chart. wow, very challenging. stubborn is your middle name.

it's nice to read what you all believe in, in terms of morality, in what you deem good for society.

astrologers like to put aquarius on a pedastal, claiming aquas (in general) are the height of a higher civlization. they make it sound like we're gods...without feeling. (i guess they gotta put in that inhuman thing down) but i get where some of them are coming from. you can lose sight of it in the name of "justice" and forget the most essential things. and we're actually not the sign that exemplifies justice. but because they're up there in their god like realm, they will allow themselves or those who aren't deem good enough to enact the punishment. /introspection.

yet, without common ground with people. it's nothing, imo.

anyway wow got a headache. that sounded like something really far out there.

LOL. Difficult, not so much. But you're right I'm extremely stubborn about things I believe in. Aquas are stubborn and I guess I'm 10x more because I'm an aqua through and through. As for communication, nobody expects one to be eloquent, but try to articulate your point to the best of your ability, so that there is no room for misinterpretation. This is where communication breakdown happens. Whether the comment was nice or mean, it is sufficient to say that it was ambiguous. If people interpreted the wrong way, it was her doing for not being descriptive. Now on a general consensus, there is a reason why MOST people on the forum took it as negative. Why? Think of the movie "40 yr old virgin". Obviously people or some ppl in our society find it sad or pathetic to be a virgin, especially when you're older. I'm a 26 yr old virgin. Men, like previously said, respect that, but women are like "why?!!" As if it's a

Fad to be a non-virgin.

Anyways, that dumb comment got more attention and publicity on the aqua forum than it deserved. Moving along, I see you're a Pisces mooner. All my close friends or people I get close to are Pisces mooners. I have no clue why. But it seems like their sensitivity balances me out.

I'm a 23 year old male virgin and i don't think there's something wrong with that. People who do probably have the "live like there's no tomorrow" or "go with the flow" mentality. I don't have any of those. I do think that everything should be done in an orderly way. This way i can avoid confusion and i always know whether if my footing is safe or unsafe. The bad side of this is that sometimes fear overwhelms me and prevents me from going ahead and trying new things.

I don't really think that virginity is something that precious or important. But i also know that every action has a consequence, no matter how good/right it feels to do it. I just tend to think more about the future than the present.

Lol i'm still 22. I already thought we were past this 2012 nonsense, damn.

Well, i already lost it to my right hand... just in case it gets me some points, lol.

Posted by BlueSandCacoon


I don't really think that virginity is something that precious or important. But i also know that every action has a consequence, no matter how good/right it feels to do it. I just tend to think more about the future than the present.

I like the thought about actions and consequences. It's hard to find people who care about the consequences of their own actions these days. Being insightful and responsible are two precious traits. Keep it up 🙂