Hitler

Always been a question to me.Was he an Aries or a Taurus?
Different sources have different ideas.What u think?

who cares! the SOB is dead, let him stay that way........
unfortunately he was an aries from apr20
i personally know 4 yes 4 guys that are from apr 20 two of them are from 1977, next one is form 1978 and the last one not sure maybe 1975

let me tell you the one from 77 and 78 specially are the weird fuckheads i know! HANDS DOWN!

Harold Lloyd was also apr 20.
An old idea says guys born on first or last days of signs are a combination.
I don't know if it is true.

yep, i agree
thats why i left my well paying job in my middle 20's and started my own business in very difficult costly low margin profit business....and in my opinion its the most goverment regulated after
airlines or healthcare or food and last but not least finance industries

but that did not scare me away and i bet my entire life and a farm on it by taking the risk ....its been 3 years now and some days are good some are bad but i dont have to take orders from some clueless pencil dick anymore, lol
it was the bigest decision of my life yet when it came down to it was easy does it

I find most sites say Hilter was Taurus born @ 0?48' Libra Rising @ 26?41 ..with a cap moon..'so a very cuspy Taurus.. *to me this is the sign of the true cusp, those born at zero degrees.. Hitler did show his many Taurean characteristics, and that the fixed nature, and singular determined focus was a big part of his nature. He was very determined, stubborn and bound to see his plans go through to the very end..*He had a loaded (4 planet) 7th house Taurean stellium..Sun, Mars & Venus..*But it was the abuse of karmic Saturn in His 10th house of public image, that lead to his eventual downfall and evil image to this day..

btw, the least or never selected name for boys to this day, is Hitler..*for obvious reasons..

*i mean't Adolphe ..'sans Hilter..lol ..you never or rarely will ever hear the name Adolphe.

I forgot to mention, Hilter's firey 10th house Leo midheaven gave him the *all powerful* public image personea. His karmic saturn conjuncted his midheaven..*intensifying things even further. His Libra Rising gave him just enough personal charm to woe his own evile allies over to his side. He also had mystical Neptune in the the 8th House of Death. Hence his interest in the occult and astrology to further advance and deceive his evile motivations. His Neptune (planet of hidden secrets, mystery and confusion) in the 8th House of Death (hence the way he died.)

LOL* Hi Archer! 😉

okay, i'll try my best to explain a lil further ..His Saturn (planet of discipline, karmic lessons and limitations) was in the 10th house of (career and public image)

Now Saturn is only a meanie kind of planet if its lessons are either never learned, never learned fully or totally abused and disrespected, as was in Hitler's case.

Saturn can also symbolize hard work and responsibilty, and used properly can give back many hard-earned rewards and success.

On the negative side, its influence can also be stern, restrictive, cold and severe.

It can also give the power to endure and gives great tenacity and stamina! But Hitler used this to his own evile ends. (He became selfish, dictatory, irresponsible, and a public disgrace to say the least.) He discredited everything saturn was mean't to be.. *To reiderate His Leo Mid-heaven, he had ego to burn, and needed to be number 1 to his mass of followers (including his own selfish doctrines and dictates.) In the end Saturn brought him down to his knees, and Neptune pulled the trigger..

"i spose that was OBVIOUS.......doh!"

LOL! more obvious than any reality i know! 😉

Great description Mystic, but I can't help but LOL @ "dictatory."

Maybe I'm having an immature day cuz "dictator" is making me think of "meat" and "potatoes". 😛

LOOOOL!!! Hurray for immaturity! 😛

"Would you like some d!ck with your tators?"
"Or perhaps some tators with your d!ck—"

Sure Archer, there are positive aspects to Saturn; "Saturn can also symbolize hard work and responsibilty, and used properly can give back many hard-earned rewards and success."

Also...'Saturn shows where you are being tested in life, and in what sign. It's about your personal fears and limitations, and moving beyond them. Its house position in your chart indicates karmic lessons necessary for fulfilling obligations and responsibilities so (personal growth) can occur. It's where you must build in self-discipline to work hard. Saturn's lessons actually help us to grow, bringing structure and meaning to our world, which is a good thing! Saturn also knows the limits of time and matter, its lessons can't be rushed, for Saturn stays with us a lifetime. Saturn may delay, but does not have to deny. And even though Saturn reminds us of our own boundaries, responsibilities, and commitments in life, Saturn is not to be feared; it's about overcoming obstacles. And not only in the lessons learned, but just as much in the journey and effort to get there. In the end, it's in the overcoming of these hardships and challenges in life which truly gives us character. *so hope this helps to clarify abit, archer..🙂


*just an interesting side-note; whatever sign your Saturn is in; you will tend to be more restricive, limiting and stern toward that particular sun-sign. And that sign in-turn will tend to see you as a *Taskmaster* or person of authority. Saturn will want to slow down the sun and teach, but must remember not to dampen the spirit of the sun, either. On the bright side, Saturn can also form (very) strong, unbreakable bonds between two people.

"What was Saddam Hussien? Wasn't he a Taurus? I think so!"

That's right GF, Hussien was a Taurus. And much like Hitler was very singulary focused and determined to the bitter end. I agree with you about Aries too; their anger is not so far-reaching and sustained as a Taurus'..'they would just as well, move on.

Mystic;
Tx 4 ur complicated answers.I wish a day my horoscopes knowledge be in a place to understand what u said.But:
How can someone born on apr 20 is supposed to be a taurus?This is odd.

Archer, wow that IS uncanny and Interesting..! Astrology can be *so* spot-on - indepth astrology; that's why it never fails to fascinate. (one thing said about astrology, is that you can NEVER know it all, and is the one Mantic Art i have always stuck with the most) ..🙂

Hi, mani450

The Sun enters Taurus from APRIL 20 to MAY 20 ~ and since Hitler was born on APRIL 20, that would make him a Taurus. (a very early degree Taurus) So Taurus @ 0? 48'

His cusp period being ~ Aries-Taurus; April 19-24 (Cusp of Power) ..hope this helps.. =)

Oooooh! Ok, this make total sense now!

I also have Saturn in Cancer, and Cancers are the *only* people on the planet that I just want to beat the living sh!t out of!

I can tolerate anything from anyone else - Aries being controlling and selfish = funny, Taurus being stubborn = work around them, Leo being self involved = annoying but easy to help them with it, etc. But Cancers?!?!?!? Just about everything they do makes me sick!

:x

I try to get along with everyone, and there are a few Cancers that I'm pretty close to, but I can't stand them either. 😢

Wanted to add:

I second every single thing Archer said about Cancers as well.

Mystic, could you post that type of info for what the other planets mean as well(if it's not too much trouble)?
Your insight into Saturn was probably the most accurate, easiest to understand explanation I've ever read. 🙂

Hi, leo/virgo ..'sure, no problem at all; i'll post some more info. sometime, either here or on the main astro board.. 🙂

Thank you Mystic!

Can't wait to see it! 🙂

Eeeek!!!