Saturian & Mars influence s

So,I have a question (obviously)? I heard in "The secret language of birthdays" that if you're born early/late in the day you lean more-so to the day before or after you're born. I was born on the 9th of the 4th at 2am.& I know that I could probably look the characteristics up here but I'd rather hear you're options ? & Also, are Aries (whence ruled by Saturn & Mars) cunning & manipulative (I've also heard the moon's influence makes for a more deceitful Aries, is that true)? I've been told I am, yet, I don't notice it in the day-to-day humdrum. I've looked so many places to find this out & everyone has a varying opinion,any thoughts anyone ?

lol- What do you want to specifically know about a person that has pissed you off -_-. I'm an aries with a cap stellium (mars and saturn influence).

No lol I'm just trying to figure out my wicked side haha, I just don't think I'm calculating as people make me out to be. Could you describe yourself & anyone else you know whos ruled by Saturn & Mars? What is your darker side like ? All these astrology books point to more and more questions then I wanted to ask haha.

Noone in particular, Its more about learning about myself. I take criticism seriously. As a saturian/martian ruled person, what's your personality like & how have you tempered your martian energy ? I've been called calculating before yet I've never really noticed it, what's your darker side like ?

I'm not sure. I was born at 11:26pm.

I only want to know my darker side, since the martian energy is so strong, I can become scattered & its hard to get know myself sometimes. I'm just wanting to know about the darker side of my martian/saturian energy, have you found any Aries people to have a cunning streak? Or are they too straight out to be cunning? Sorry if Im asking too many questions! Its just that I can't find anything on distinct personality traits on Mars/Saturn people.

Omg. This internet is soooo frustrating !!!!! Sorry for the obnoxious repetitive posts -_-

Posted by Intuitive2015
So,I have a question (obviously)? I heard in "The secret language of birthdays" that if you're born early/late in the day you lean more-so to the day before or after you're born. I was born on the 9th of the 4th at 2am.& I know that I could probably look the characteristics up here but I'd rather hear you're options ? & Also, are Aries (whence ruled by Saturn & Mars) cunning & manipulative (I've also heard the moon's influence makes for a more deceitful Aries, is that true)? I've been told I am, yet, I don't notice it in the day-to-day humdrum. I've looked so many places to find this out & everyone has a varying opinion,any thoughts anyone ?

Yes, the Secret Language actually states this. I have found it to be true of myself and others. I was born 3 am. I asked my family, they said both pages but more so the day before. And, that was my opinion as well.

We were all just in the books this weekend as my Virgo brother wanted his Sag girlfriend to read them. That was an interesting exchange.

I'm a Cap Ascendant and I don't believe being Saturn ruled makes you cunning or manipulative. I believe that it makes you piercing in your views, wise.

Wise can be perceived as cunning by the person who had ill plans against you, when those plans are quietly foiled by you.

Manipulation is not negative in and of itself. It depends on whether the outcome results in, and is acknowledged by all involved, as good results/deeds.

Thank you so much for this clarification!!! I also believe that both pages are premonit in characteristics, you told me more then a full page in the book ever could (too coded). Thank You so much!!