3rd House Stellium and Life Purpose

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I have a 3rd house stellium in my Sun, Mercury and Mars. My Neptune and Uranus are also in that house.

From what I've read so far, 3rd house is apparently good for writing and speaking. I am a good writer and have always enjoyed reading growing up, but as for speaking, aside from being a mildly eloquent kid growing up, I have a lot of anxieties at present surrounding speaking to people, social interactions, giving presentations. I have my natal mercury in retrograde squared my rising so I don't know if that has anything to do with it.

I'm in a place in my life right now where I'm really struggling to pick a career direction to head in. I've always thought I wanted to become a teacher, but as I was saying earlier about my problem with public speaking and communicating my thoughts out loud, I'm afraid that I won't be able to speak eloquently and teach well. I sound a lot better in writing than I do while speaking to people in general. I'm struggling with low self-esteem and confidence over my abilities right now which is also another thing that is hindering my perception of my strengths and life purpose...

Does a 3rd house stellium often mean the person would be great at teaching/being a teacher?

I thought you would be naturally good at everything in that house if you had a stellium in it, but that isn't the case with me. So will I have to hone the energy and practice it? Will it guarantee that I will be good at it once I work on the development of the skills?

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Also, what other careers would be good for me? I've wanted to become a writer (novelist) but right now I don't have any ideas in particular. My saturn is in the 5th house. I've been looking at a lot of marketing, communications and content writing jobs lately but nothing about them really gets me feeling excited. The idea of writing what you're told to write doesn't appeal to me that much, so I don't think I would really love it.
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Posted by Antiochus

Stelliums are never easy.

You don't have to speak well as a teacher. Teaching them isn't like you were writing like Shakespear but to help them understand topics, themes and connections. For that it is often better to put it in simple terms and not make it more complex just to sound better. At times it can even work better to present things in a silly way. Barely any author, excluding philosophers, speaks the same way he/she writes.

The insecurity could indeed be a problem but you should be trained to become better in that during your training as a teacher I think. Oratory training should part of it. If it isn't you can always look for a debatting group or club to get mroe practice.

If three planets in a house counts as a stellium I too have one in the third and struggled and, at times, still struggle with some of the things you've mentioned. Fortunately I was put through a lot of presentations during my last years and school. That helped a lot until I found my own way to handle presentations. You just need to find your access to it and do it the way it feels natural and comfortable for you. After that it usually works out okay while you still have room for improvements.

I've flirted a bit with the teaching profeesion the last years and a couple of people mentioned on their own that I would make a good lecturer because I explain well and usually get people to start thinking or debate.

You can easily test yourself on those things by getting extremely drunk with friends. if you are still able to explain complex themes in that state you might want to try out teaching.






That's true, most people don't speak the way they write. I just have a huge insecurity and blockage with my speaking that it takes a lot of effort for me to even explain a more complicated concept or explanation of something to a friend. I know I might be letting all my fears and worries about the potential negatives and difficulties of the job get to me. I would be getting trained on -how- to teach as well as practice in the classroom environment if I were to attend teacher's college.

For the presentations thing, it's weird because in high school, I would always memorize my presentations at least 80% and be able to act comfortable and confident in front of the class. I wasn't really that nervous for them, but I would also have this ability to tune out the class and pretend they aren't really there. But when it got to university, and maybe because I only had to do presentations and speak more in my last year of school, I would get so much anxiety while speaking in front of the class and giving presentations that I would sweat and shake the whole way. I didn't practice as much for those too though.. I've also worked with children and wasn't as assertive/interactive/dynamic as I could've been while teaching them. I just feel really shy and self-conscious in front of a group.

Hmm the getting drunk thing lol, I haven't tried that before. But I did notice that when I'm drunk, my mind still runs a lot and I'll be thinking about things and still have this awareness of what I shouldn't say in my head. Have you tried this before? And since you also have a stellium, have you thought about doing writing as well?
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Stelliums are never easy.

You don't have to speak well as a teacher. Teaching them isn't like you were writing like Shakespear but to help them understand topics, themes and connections. For that it is often better to put it in simple terms and not make it more complex just to sound better. At times it can even work better to present things in a silly way. Barely any author, excluding philosophers, speaks the same way he/she writes.

The insecurity could indeed be a problem but you should be trained to become better in that during your training as a teacher I think. Oratory training should part of it. If it isn't you can always look for a debatting group or club to get mroe practice.

If three planets in a house counts as a stellium I too have one in the third and struggled and, at times, still struggle with some of the things you've mentioned. Fortunately I was put through a lot of presentations during my last years and school. That helped a lot until I found my own way to handle presentations. You just need to find your access to it and do it the way it feels natural and comfortable for you. After that it usually works out okay while you still have room for improvements.

I've flirted a bit with the teaching profeesion the last years and a couple of people mentioned on their own that I would make a good lecturer because I explain well and usually get people to start thinking or debate.

You can easily test yourself on those things by getting extremely drunk with friends. if you are still able to explain complex themes in that state you might want to try out teaching.






That's true, most people don't speak the way they write. I just have a huge insecurity and blockage with my speaking that it takes a lot of effort for me to even explain a more complicated concept or explanation of something to a friend. I know I might be letting all my fears and worries about the potential negatives and difficulties of the job get to me. I would be getting trained on -how- to teach as well as practice in the classroom environment if I were to attend teacher's college.

For the presentations thing, it's weird because in high school, I would always memorize my presentations at least 80% and be able to act comfortable and confident in front of the class. I wasn't really that nervous for them, but I would also have this ability to tune out the class and pretend they aren't really there. But when it got to university, and maybe because I only had to do presentations and speak more in my last year of school, I would get so much anxiety while speaking in front of the class and giving presentations that I would sweat and shake the whole way. I didn't practice as much for those too though.. I've also worked with children and wasn't as assertive/interactive/dynamic as I could've been while teaching them. I just feel really shy and self-conscious in front of a group.

Hmm the getting drunk thing lol, I haven't tried that before. But I did notice that when I'm drunk, my mind still runs a lot and I'll be thinking about things and still have this awareness of what I shouldn't say in my head. Have you tried this before? And since you also have a stellium, have you thought about doing writing as well?


Sounds like all you really need is training and to prepare your things well enough. After some time you'll get used enough to things that you can work with little to no preperation aside from your research.

I have no real advice for dealing with kids. Were they younger, at the beginning of their school career or in their last years? Maybe it works better for you if they are older/younger.

The drunk explanation thing? Yeah, in fact I can't help it. It just happens. My person to person interctions always develop towards complex themes and topics. Although the tongue stops working properly at some point the mind usually keeps working suprisingly well.

I only recently got back into writing after around twenty years. I stopped writing when I was 8 or so due to an oath to never practice any kind or form of art. I still always wrote little stories and concepts in my mind during all those years though.
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Yep a lot of training and confidence lol. I'd rather deal with older kids who I can reason with, because my Saturn in the 5th doesn't allow me that much internal patience with them.

I enjoy going into deeper topics with people in conversation as well, but that doesn't always happen. When I'm drunk my emotional and social side take over more, or I just go into completely inside my own head.

Hmm I've done the writing things in my head too. Kind of like snippets of stories I could see forming. Why did you take an oath to not practice any sort of art? I used to enjoy art class back in grade school but then I stopped taking it because it was too much work on my part even though I was pretty good at it. I told myself art wasn't practical and I wouldn't need it for any job so then I just stopped
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Stelliums are never easy.

You don't have to speak well as a teacher. Teaching them isn't like you were writing like Shakespear but to help them understand topics, themes and connections. For that it is often better to put it in simple terms and not make it more complex just to sound better. At times it can even work better to present things in a silly way. Barely any author, excluding philosophers, speaks the same way he/she writes.

The insecurity could indeed be a problem but you should be trained to become better in that during your training as a teacher I think. Oratory training should part of it. If it isn't you can always look for a debatting group or club to get mroe practice.

If three planets in a house counts as a stellium I too have one in the third and struggled and, at times, still struggle with some of the things you've mentioned. Fortunately I was put through a lot of presentations during my last years and school. That helped a lot until I found my own way to handle presentations. You just need to find your access to it and do it the way it feels natural and comfortable for you. After that it usually works out okay while you still have room for improvements.

I've flirted a bit with the teaching profeesion the last years and a couple of people mentioned on their own that I would make a good lecturer because I explain well and usually get people to start thinking or debate.

You can easily test yourself on those things by getting extremely drunk with friends. if you are still able to explain complex themes in that state you might want to try out teaching.






That's true, most people don't speak the way they write. I just have a huge insecurity and blockage with my speaking that it takes a lot of effort for me to even explain a more complicated concept or explanation of something to a friend. I know I might be letting all my fears and worries about the potential negatives and difficulties of the job get to me. I would be getting trained on -how- to teach as well as practice in the classroom environment if I were to attend teacher's college.

For the presentations thing, it's weird because in high school, I would always memorize my presentations at least 80% and be able to act comfortable and confident in front of the class. I wasn't really that nervous for them, but I would also have this ability to tune out the class and pretend they aren't really there. But when it got to university, and maybe because I only had to do presentations and speak more in my last year of school, I would get so much anxiety while speaking in front of the class and giving presentations that I would sweat and shake the whole way. I didn't practice as much for those too though.. I've also worked with children and wasn't as assertive/interactive/dynamic as I could've been while teaching them. I just feel really shy and self-conscious in front of a group.

Hmm the getting drunk thing lol, I haven't tried that before. But I did notice that when I'm drunk, my mind still runs a lot and I'll be thinking about things and still have this awareness of what I shouldn't say in my head. Have you tried this before? And since you also have a stellium, have you thought about doing writing as well?


Sounds like all you really need is training and to prepare your things well enough. After some time you'll get used enough to things that you can work with little to no preperation aside from your research.

I have no real advice for dealing with kids. Were they younger, at the beginning of their school career or in their last years? Maybe it works better for you if they are older/younger.

The drunk explanation thing? Yeah, in fact I can't help it. It just happens. My person to person interctions always develop towards complex themes and topics. Although the tongue stops working properly at some point the mind usually keeps working suprisingly well.

I only recently got back into writing after around twenty years. I stopped writing when I was 8 or so due to an oath to never practice any kind or form of art. I still always wrote little stories and concepts in my mind during all those years though.


Yep a lot of training and confidence lol. I'd rather deal with older kids who I can reason with, because my Saturn in the 5th doesn't allow me that much internal patience with them.

I enjoy going into deeper topics with people in conversation as well, but that doesn't always happen. When I'm drunk my emotional and social side take over more, or I just go into completely inside my own head.

Hmm I've done the writing things in my head too. Kind of like snippets of stories I could see forming. Why did you take an oath to not practice any sort of art? I used to enjoy art class back in grade school but then I stopped taking it because it was too much work on my part even though I was pretty good at it. I told myself art wasn't practical and I wouldn't need it for any job so then I just stopped


Are you comfortable with your friends when you are drunk? Maybe that's it.

I had similiar reason. Art is basically worthless and doesn't help anyone in the end. In a way it's a waste of time.

My father is also an artist and a hated him for a while. Therefore I vowed to never be or do anything that is connected to him. I also hate romanticism.

Over the years I realized that I need some creative outlet in order to function well when it comes to those practical things. Going into the teaching profession allows you to connect both of those things
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Depends on who I'm with, but I've been all-out, unfiltered drunk before.

What other planets or aspects in your chart do you think contributes to that?

I never felt like I needed a creative outlet to function, but maybe I do. I don't know if I really feel it doing anything for me. I've been getting more into creative writing this past year but I still don't do it on a daily basis, only when inspiration strikes
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Stelliums are never easy.

You don't have to speak well as a teacher. Teaching them isn't like you were writing like Shakespear but to help them understand topics, themes and connections. For that it is often better to put it in simple terms and not make it more complex just to sound better. At times it can even work better to present things in a silly way. Barely any author, excluding philosophers, speaks the same way he/she writes.

The insecurity could indeed be a problem but you should be trained to become better in that during your training as a teacher I think. Oratory training should part of it. If it isn't you can always look for a debatting group or club to get mroe practice.

If three planets in a house counts as a stellium I too have one in the third and struggled and, at times, still struggle with some of the things you've mentioned. Fortunately I was put through a lot of presentations during my last years and school. That helped a lot until I found my own way to handle presentations. You just need to find your access to it and do it the way it feels natural and comfortable for you. After that it usually works out okay while you still have room for improvements.

I've flirted a bit with the teaching profeesion the last years and a couple of people mentioned on their own that I would make a good lecturer because I explain well and usually get people to start thinking or debate.

You can easily test yourself on those things by getting extremely drunk with friends. if you are still able to explain complex themes in that state you might want to try out teaching.






That's true, most people don't speak the way they write. I just have a huge insecurity and blockage with my speaking that it takes a lot of effort for me to even explain a more complicated concept or explanation of something to a friend. I know I might be letting all my fears and worries about the potential negatives and difficulties of the job get to me. I would be getting trained on -how- to teach as well as practice in the classroom environment if I were to attend teacher's college.

For the presentations thing, it's weird because in high school, I would always memorize my presentations at least 80% and be able to act comfortable and confident in front of the class. I wasn't really that nervous for them, but I would also have this ability to tune out the class and pretend they aren't really there. But when it got to university, and maybe because I only had to do presentations and speak more in my last year of school, I would get so much anxiety while speaking in front of the class and giving presentations that I would sweat and shake the whole way. I didn't practice as much for those too though.. I've also worked with children and wasn't as assertive/interactive/dynamic as I could've been while teaching them. I just feel really shy and self-conscious in front of a group.

Hmm the getting drunk thing lol, I haven't tried that before. But I did notice that when I'm drunk, my mind still runs a lot and I'll be thinking about things and still have this awareness of what I shouldn't say in my head. Have you tried this before? And since you also have a stellium, have you thought about doing writing as well?


Sounds like all you really need is training and to prepare your things well enough. After some time you'll get used enough to things that you can work with little to no preperation aside from your research.

I have no real advice for dealing with kids. Were they younger, at the beginning of their school career or in their last years? Maybe it works better for you if they are older/younger.

The drunk explanation thing? Yeah, in fact I can't help it. It just happens. My person to person interctions always develop towards complex themes and topics. Although the tongue stops working properly at some point the mind usually keeps working suprisingly well.

I only recently got back into writing after around twenty years. I stopped writing when I was 8 or so due to an oath to never practice any kind or form of art. I still always wrote little stories and concepts in my mind during all those years though.


Yep a lot of training and confidence lol. I'd rather deal with older kids who I can reason with, because my Saturn in the 5th doesn't allow me that much internal patience with them.

I enjoy going into deeper topics with people in conversation as well, but that doesn't always happen. When I'm drunk my emotional and social side take over more, or I just go into completely inside my own head.

Hmm I've done the writing things in my head too. Kind of like snippets of stories I could see forming. Why did you take an oath to not practice any sort of art? I used to enjoy art class back in grade school but then I stopped taking it because it was too much work on my part even though I was pretty good at it. I told myself art wasn't practical and I wouldn't need it for any job so then I just stopped


Are you comfortable with your friends when you are drunk? Maybe that's it.

I had similiar reason. Art is basically worthless and doesn't help anyone in the end. In a way it's a waste of time.

My father is also an artist and a hated him for a while. Therefore I vowed to never be or do anything that is connected to him. I also hate romanticism.

Over the years I realized that I need some creative outlet in order to function well when it comes to those practical things. Going into the teaching profession allows you to connect both of those things


Depends on who I'm with, but I've been all-out, unfiltered drunk before.

What other planets or aspects in your chart do you think contributes to that?

I never felt like I needed a creative outlet to function, but maybe I do. I don't know if I really feel it doing anything for me. I've been getting more into creative writing this past year but I still don't do it on a daily basis, only when inspiration strikes


Contribute to the disdian for art? Probably my Cap stellium, rxVenus and Venus/Saturn conjunction.

I never felt the urge to do something creative on a conscious level but learned that I need some form of playing field aside from my usual topics (economics and philosophy). My Sag moon just needs to feel free at times I think.

I also only write when the muse visits me but even then I'm mostly content with just mapping things out in my head until I feel like writing.
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Those are some heavy placements. From what I know of venus retrograde, I know it makes you really particular about anything related to aesthetics and beauty, outside the topic of self-love and relationships.

Something else just randomly occurred to me about the state of my mind while being drunk. I believe I'm still fairly analytical while I'm drunk, as long as I'm not physical overly my limit. Like, I've asked people's birthdays while I'm drunk and still manage to remember it the next day when I'm sober. And if I'm trying to be observant I can "store" pieces of information in my head which will still be available to me the next day
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When it comes to "life purpose" I'd look up your Part of Hyleg. Takes a while to explain but it's pretty simple by the end of it.




I guess I should've worded it "career purpose/path" instead of life purpose. Overall life purpose is shown by our North Node and its house I believe.

How can I find what my Part of Hyleg is? Is there an online calculator you can link me to?