Planets Conjunct the Ascendant

For those who have this aspect, do you identify more with the sign of your ascendant? Or with the planet in conjunction with your ascendant?

How wide is the orb of your conjunction, and is this planet(s) in the 1st or 12th house?

I found this article and thought it interesting.

"Planets conjunct Ascendant: I've noticed that with planets close to the ascendant, the person instinctively understands this energy and is very clear about it (the tighter the orb, more the clarity). It is as if there are born with a special understanding of this energy. The planet in the first house, especially close to the ascendant, is not easily influenced by culture, peer group, family, etc. How much of it is openly expressed depends on the sign, aspects, whether it is retrograde, etc, but the internal awareness of this energy is always present. Let's say if someone has Uranus conjunct the ascendant, then they have a special connection to all that this planet indicates. Right from childhood, they may be original, independent thinkers, believers of personal freedom, etc., even if they are in a circumstance that does not value those traits. The planet near the ascendant works in a natural instinctive manner without the need for reassurance for the outside environment. If the conjunction is really tight, the person could be a poster child for the planet, and they project the energy of the conjunct planet in a very direct manner. If the planet conjunct an angle is retrograde, then the person may not be that open in expressing the energy but still strongly value it internally."

http://www.astromanda.com/planets-conjunct-angles-in-astrology/

I identify with Sag..

But also with Uranus and Neptune. A bit less with Saturn.

I have all 3 in the 1st house, not sure about the orb.

I don't think anyone sees me as a poster child for Saturn. No one..ever.

Neptune? Everyone who catches me drifting off into my many daydreams. Apparently my eyes just glaze over and I'm no longer there.

But Uranus..yeah, that I could see getting a lot. It's because of my randomness. It governs me.

Posted by AirMan
so what does it means to have a planet in conjunction in the 12th house?

That, I think, really depends on the orb. I've seen it stated that if a planet is within two degrees of the ascendant in the 12th house then it is translated as if it were in the 1st house.

"A planet in conjunction to the Ascendant always takes on powerful proportions in the native's life and personality. A distinction is made between planets in the twelfth house in conjunction to the Ascendant, and planets in the first house in conjunction to the Ascendant. When found in the first house, that planet feels free to express itself. When behind the Ascendant in the twelfth house, that planet is just as powerful, but it has problems expressing itself in a direct and uninhibited manner."

http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/sunascendantaspects.html<BR>

TMV... you don't have any planets in your AC... lol

Actually just noticed my ac is only 2 degrees from yours lol

Though back to your question... I look at the chart as a whole... people often pick off influences one at a time. I would look to see what sign the AC is in first... house number and the ruler ship of that house to sign. Then I would other dominate points in the chart see if they directly conflict in away to even them out.

As far as orb... it depends on the planet or the star... aka the sun... the sun has the largest orb because it has the most gravity... Jupiter is often said to have 10 degrees in orbs. Honestly though you have to look what it is conj. I normally give the ac, or mc about 5 points.

The thing about the ac is you have to remember it is the rising or how people will see us from the out side world... which can be in great contrast to how we actually are. As you wold know Ms. Cancer Moon... lol 😉

Is this your latest love interest? I would think the more worked up you get the more you seem to fall to your Virgo side.

Are you starting to look more into your future now and wondering about family or having one, job, and so on... I would take a look at Saturn going retro... back in to Scorpio until the end of the year... As I am not looking forward to it myself...

How is your Saturn return treating you...?

Best of luck...

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Posted by e11e

My mars is conjunct my ascendent.....so, it's like taking the sun, ascendant and mars and then fusing it with neptune (1st house + 12th house).

Very interesting. I personally know someone similar to this. His Sun, Mars, Pluto, and Ascendant are all very tightly conjunct.

He's a powerhouse of energy and willpower when he wants to be, but he also his moments where he would rather daydream.

Is this about what is transiting though Aqua now...? conj. AC...—

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Posted by piscesmoon2

TMV... you don't have any planets in your AC... lol

As I am well aware. 😛 Just call me a curious kind of mind.

Posted by piscesmoon2

Is this your latest love interest?

How is your Saturn return treating you...?

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Lmao, no, and the trip with Saturn has been quite interesting thus far. Many life changes which at this moment I think are for the better, but as always, only time will tell. 🙂

Posted by e11e

wow, tmv, this is something new to think about. thanks for picking my brain!

And many thanks to you as well. 🙂

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Posted by e11e

My mars is conjunct my ascendent.....so, it's like taking the sun, ascendant and mars and then fusing it with neptune (1st house + 12th house).

Very interesting. I personally know someone similar to this. His Sun, Mars, Pluto, and Ascendant are all very tightly conjunct.

He's a powerhouse of energy and willpower when he wants to be, but he also his moments where he would rather daydream.

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You have too look out how each planet will react in the house... What is the sign that all the planets are at and the degree of the AC... and the planets... The higher number the AC is normally the more a person is mature... because the Sun, Mars, and Pluto are either fire or Scorpio... They are all friendly and in the 12 house is of course the house of dreams and so on... Sun orb will bring the others together... I would give the Pluto a 2 orb... Mars... a 3 or 4 and sun 10 to 8 and ac 5...

All of these influences because they are close to the AC will show up outwardly... If they are more in the 12 house it may take a little more for it to come out being not every day subjects but people should generally know... I would think you would relate well the these energies with your Pluto Scorpio 8th house... Cancer/ Sag action... lol 😉

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Posted by AirMan

yep. i can most definitely relate to that. the ones in bold. i have pluto conjunct ascendant 8.44. what does that means?

"The conjunction of Pluto to the Ascendant means that you have the power to determine the kind of world that can be constructed from its available resources. You know how difficult it is to function and develop under environmental conditions and economic pressures that frustrate you at every turn, but it is in your grasp to arouse the people to make public officials yield to their demands. You can play an important role in urging the public to eliminate the parasites who cause decaying social conditions and the depraved human qualities that lead to them. Because you speak and conduct yourself with authority, no-one dares dismiss you as a troublesome critic. You are not easily aroused to taking action unless the situation is serious. If it is, you will use every trick you can devise to compel those responsible to take the actions that are necessary to restore order from chaos. You won't be satisfied until a system is working effectively. You don't tolerate abuse in your personal affairs either. In general you know what you want out of life, and are ready to make any investment in talent and effort to realize your goals. You defend those entrusted to your care, and the people you love know that you will protect their interests at all costs. You must guard against driving yourself or others to excess. Choose your adversaries with care, or you could antagonize someone who would deal violently with you."

http://astromatrix.org/Horoscopes/Planet-Aspects/Pluto-Conjunct-Ascendant

Posted by AirMan

yep. i can most definitely relate to that. the ones in bold. i have pluto conjunct ascendant 8.44. what does that means?

Because of the nature of the 12th house, I would think that the above would be something of a challenge for you. You would need to reconcile with your personal demons and insecurities in order to harness the more positive and empowering traits of Pluto, the negative consequences of the planet affecting you more until you have faced those internal issues.

But that's only one amateur interpretation.

What sign are all these planets in? TMV

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Posted by piscesmoon2
What sign are all these planets in? TMV

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The Sun, Mars, Pluto, Ascendant conjunction?

The person I know with that formation has them all in the sign of Scorpio.

It is a very good mix... as Scorpio is the fire of all water signs... goes well with Sun and Mars... Pluto is Scorpio...

Very powerful... It would bring a secretiveness to maybe there future plans and how big they wan them to be... Should have that Scorpio... I know something you never will kinda about them...

Would be very interesting as a person very deep...

The Energy would be the thing I would want to know normally if someone has a conj in the first house just after rising with the sun there should be more energy... I wonder if it is the same...

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What makes a lot of people with Pluto conj Asc so incredibly handsome ?

Posted by Everything
I have moon trine asc?

What do you have to say about that.... almost the same or not the same?

The Moon trine the Ascendant gives you an easy-going disposition and allows you to derive much pleasure from creative expression. You are imaginative, sensitive, emotionally poised, and articulate in expressing yourself. You have sufficient talent to make a substantial contribution to your career. You realize that in order to succeed you must make sacrifices in your personal affairs.

Posted by Everything
I also have venus trine my ascendant....
I have many many many squares with my ascendant.
And i don't know if my mars i sextile my ascendant? If the orbit is 5 degrees?

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Venus trine the Ascendant gives you a charming and conciliatory manner that generates warmth in the people you deal with. Usually you are sociable, refined, and gracious, but at times you artificially turn on the charm to win someone's support.

The trine and the conjunction function differently from one another. The easiest way to think about it is that the trine is two different people who share enough things in common that they work well together, and the sextile is similar in nature. The conjunction is more like two normally competing people who have been forced to join the same team so that they begin to share. And the square would be two people who have trouble getting along and often find themselves in a game of tug-o-war where it's either one or the other getting their way.

I've seen the orbs for a sextile vary somewhat. Personally, 5 degrees is the absolute largest I would allow when looking at a chart. Generally I like them to be around 2 or 3 degrees.

Posted by risesafterall
What makes a lot of people with Pluto conj Asc so incredibly handsome ?

Lol, that's a bit objective. 😛

But Pluto rising and Pluto in the first house is notorious for creating a "magnetizing" or "polarizing" effect in the native. For some it achieves a kind of bad boy/girl aura that draws attention, and for others, less fortunately, it can also become a chronic case of resting bitch face.

Posted by clooneyyears
odd i thought this was an old thread. @_@

I just created it yesterday lol.

Posted by AirMan
just for the record, i have pluto in the first and 12th houses. i mean not that it matters if i type that here on the board. nobody not gonna read it no way probably.

If Pluto is close enough to your ascendant to "cusp", being within two degrees or in exact conjunction, it is read as being in the first house.

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Posted by clooneyyears
odd i thought this was an old thread. @_@

I just created it yesterday lol.

i guess i haven't seen you in awhile. 😛

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Lol! The world isn't going to rule itself bro. 😛

Posted by AirMan

like when i do my birth chart on cafe astro, it says pluto conjunction ascendant 8.44. and when i stroll down, it says i have uranus in 1 pluto in 1 and 12. so is my pluto conjunction being 8.44 close to my ascendant?

Conjunctions may have orbs up to 10 degrees, so while Pluto is certainly conjunct your ascendant it isn't as "close" as it may for others. I must confess that I'm very confused about caf?astro saying Pluto is in both your first and 12th houses. At 8 degrees out the planet should definitively be in one house or the other, not cusping.

I would recommend having a second party take a look at that to be certain.

Posted by AirMan

and does this means i have 2 planets conjuncting my ascendant?

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It's possible. Aspects like conjunctions are determined by degree angles created between planets in a natal chart. If Uranus lies within 8 to 10 degrees of your ascendant then, yes, you have two planets in conjunction with your ascendant. However, if Uranus is out of orb it will not be conjunct even though it occupies the first house.

Mars conjunct Ascendant in Scorpio (barely, 8 degrees)

& I relate way more with my Sun and moon personally....but people see me completely differently