successful people- can you work for success or its only a matter of a birth-place?

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Hello,

i would like to ask if anyone knows some traits that succesfull people have?

I mean maybe based on zodiac signs and other traits of character.

But generally id' like to ask if you know whats the difference between succesfull person and a 'normal, Mr Smith ( not offending any Smiths here). ( just an example).

Some people that i know that come from rich families have been raised differently that i have been. For example because their parents had a lot of money they provided them entertainment, additional classes and ect to be the best ( or try to be the best ) in everything. And STILL they have the feeling they are not enough and they need to prove their parents or family their worth.

I have been raised in a middle class family in europe. My parents let me have my opinion on everything. They didnt push me into something i didnt like. I was able to TRY different things many times, for example ice skating, playing tennis on a professional level.

When i got bored or i went to high school i put my focus on my mental and educational career not on the 'additional classes' choice.

Between some of my friends i see that my childhood was normal, good, i felt being a child, i was free to choose, i was free to live. I have very lovely memories even thought we have never been rich.

I decided to gradually take steps in my career path.

So when i am almost 28 i can say i achieved a lot but it was only my work and it was only me who pushed myself.

Now i see i am different than my parents. They didnt achive success in their work ( success means being the best or earn a lot of money) they focused more on the normal work because as artists they couldnt get normal artictic job during communistic times.

But anyway.

When i compare my family approach to career and work its always been like -dont worry, when you grow up you will work more so dont waste your youth working, they didnt even push me when i was at my university. everything that i accomplished was my work and my choice.



BUT some of my friends from more succesfull families have some kind of scheme or a ladder to climb. And they are pushed and 'tested' by parents sometimes to achive better and to be the best.

ANd they complain on that.

I can not compare myself because i only test myself.

Sometimes even when i am at my friends' and they parents call they are always busy ( parents) making new businesses having some conversations or business friends, they work a lot even when 65.

My parents especially my Father always lie on the bed or in front of tv.

He told me he was stupid when younger and naive, thats why he is now at this place.

He doesnt push himself. he never encouraged me to work more.

Always has been delicate with this topic and so one.



And my question is- are succesfull people in your environment raised in a succesfull family or they have achieved succes only by themselves?

I see i am doing a lot only by myself and its very hard. I make connections i do this, i have never had a background.

I cant say that parents can help me,. i am proud of myself but i am overworked i dont have a private life i always work or do additional stuff to be on the same level as my other succesfull friends.

Because i see that success means money, and some people are rich from the birth and dont have to work as much as i do. I am very tired but i do it because i like my work and addictional projects...

I want my life to be better and i want to climb this ladder to success , i want to change flat, furniture , tv, computer.

My dad stayed in the 90s. even in 90s he didnt work to improve the life style , always on the background, 2nd position.

I had a problem with that- but am i right or wrong?
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Posted by WarAngel1
For me, it was both. I was given good tools as a child and then I took over from there. Astrology doesn't mean jack shit if you're not also self motivated to succeed despite any odds.

Levels of success differ from person to person though.
thank you for the answer.

i took only a general glimpse on what is 'success'. in that case i mean ; money and being the best and wanting to change life somehow. getting rid of some old stuff,making progress.
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You can gain your success. In life you are never stuck. Circumstances may make you feel like you’re stuck but you’re not it’s all in your head. You can remove yourself from any situation that no longer serves you and if you want a different life then go get it!

Of course it’s easier said than done. You need money these days to do anything. But let me tell u something, i know people who grew up very rich and had mommy and daddy hand them everything but the kids never did anything for themselves. It’s always the ones that grew up with nothing that have the most motivation and their stories are legendary.

Work smarter not harder.
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Posted by WarAngel1
For me, it was both. I was given good tools as a child and then I took over from there. Astrology doesn't mean jack shit if you're not also self motivated to succeed despite any odds.

Levels of success differ from person to person though.
thank you for the answer.

i took only a general glimpse on what is 'success'. in that case i mean ; money and being the best and wanting to change life somehow. getting rid of some old stuff,making progress.


If that's your measurand, then do whatever it takes to make it happen.
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for now yes, its my measurement because i want to somehow have more money and make progress.

2nd place is a loving healthy, family that i would like to have.

probably in some years those priorities will change.
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Posted by MoonshineLeo
You can gain your success. In life you are never stuck. Circumstances may make you feel like you’re stuck but you’re not it’s all in your head. You can remove yourself from any situation that no longer serves you and if you want a different life then go get it!

Of course it’s easier said than done. You need money these days to do anything. But let me tell u something, i know people who grew up very rich and had mommy and daddy hand them everything but the kids never did anything for themselves. It’s always the ones that grew up with nothing that have the most motivation and their stories are legendary.

Work smarter not harder.


how to work smarter than harder?
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Posted by WarAngel1
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Posted by WarAngel1
For me, it was both. I was given good tools as a child and then I took over from there. Astrology doesn't mean jack shit if you're not also self motivated to succeed despite any odds.

Levels of success differ from person to person though.
thank you for the answer.

i took only a general glimpse on what is 'success'. in that case i mean ; money and being the best and wanting to change life somehow. getting rid of some old stuff,making progress.


If that's your measurand, then do whatever it takes to make it happen.
for now yes, its my measurement because i want to somehow have more money and make progress.

2nd place is a loving healthy, family that i would like to have.

probably in some years those priorities will change.
If I may ask, how old are you?
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27
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i feel better than even 3-2 years ago.

since the beginning of 2017 i started changing my life and now i am not chasing things. i let them happen but i actually am more smart than before and i realise of some processes.

before as an Aries i have been very energetic and impatient. When i am 27 i can say that ok it was my old self now i am growing up and getting smarter
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Posted by 199144
Posted by MoonshineLeo
You can gain your success. In life you are never stuck. Circumstances may make you feel like you’re stuck but you’re not it’s all in your head. You can remove yourself from any situation that no longer serves you and if you want a different life then go get it!

Of course it’s easier said than done. You need money these days to do anything. But let me tell u something, i know people who grew up very rich and had mommy and daddy hand them everything but the kids never did anything for themselves. It’s always the ones that grew up with nothing that have the most motivation and their stories are legendary.

Work smarter not harder.


how to work smarter than harder?

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Dont overwork yourself! thats such an easy way to become trap in a cycle. Take time off for yourself and on your time out enjoy your life. Go outside, go to a movie, literally live your life.

https://www.bakadesuyo.com/2018/02/work-smarter-not-harder-2/
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WORK, WORK and WORK !

Can you imagine how many astro combinations there are?

Do you know that are people living on the streets with natal charts similar to the one of celebrities?

At the end of the day, the natal chart show your resources, What will you do from there is all up to you.

Venus square Jupiter - Someone filthy rich who lives an dream life.

Venus square Jupiter - A drug addict.

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success is the byproduct of different traits coming from different placements and aspects.

need for security

need for recognition

need for independence

need for more and more opportunities to play life games (thinking of monkeys)

need for excellence

need for winning

need for purposefulness

etc.

back to the original question: several astrological placements + helpful life events (from childhood to now)
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can you say if i will be succesfull?

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before i had big struggles with doing and achieving things. i am kind of a late bloomer on everything- wrk, relationships, thats why i needed to work twice as much as others to achieve the same.

but since 2017 i started doing it smoothly and its not Sisyphean labour to me.

i know how to behave among different people and so one.

but will i achieve something in life?

in my last thread people described me very badly, i was confused because ididnt feel like that