Posted by hollyhock
Did he commit suicide or have serious health problems? nessus in 2nd, chiron (and mercury!) in 12th, and moon in 8th would make me think of difficulties that could lead to suicidal tendencies and Saturn in 6th could point to health issues. He had NN in 1st so he was gravitating towards being alone. Mars in 1st house, he probably had a lot of energy. Maybe so much energy that he did something that caused an accident?

Interesting he had Neptune and Uranus in 4th house....as his child never met him (Neptune - illusion) and Uranus meaning abrubt change in home life (his death).

sun in leo conjunct venus in leo, in 11th I would think he had a nice, outgoing personality and lots of friends.

Jupiter in 2nd, did he come from or make a lot of money in his lifetime?

I don't know how to interpret aspects too well.


Your interpretation is quite accurate, congrats!

He died from serious health issues, made a lot of money but spend a lot of money too on travels and adventures. Had a lot of influential friends and an outgoing personality but used to hurt his mother, I guess this is how the Mars energy worked for him as this square Neptune... he used to beat his partner when he was drunk (Mars square Neptune 4th).

Can you see anything else? What Chiron in the 12th would represent?
Could someone read his natal chart? Dont need to be a full read just mention what you can see from his chart.

Thanks in advance


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What are her venus aspects? I can't possibly assimilate the idea of anything aries desiring to be treated like a royalty. This placement doesn't need to be flattered, only respected. Date logistics and conditions don't bear much importance as long as there's a sense of romance. Furthermore, venus in aries wanting to be "put on her place"? That's rather her leo mars. They may be charmed by the conceited douchebag type

Why would you flirt with other girls if you really like her?

She sounds like a thrill-seeker, a more assertive, independent lady. As Koni said, it's not okay if you want to change her...


Your scorp moon has already started with the plotting... calculative approach to relationships...



Wanting to be treated like a royalty or being attracted to the douchebag type is totally Leo Mars. I would relate to Aries Venus the need to see me angry, to have little fights or to flirt and act like a horny dog.
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You are ridiculous, by the way


i know and im totally okay with that
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what difference does it make it her friends are male or female? it's not like she's treetrunking anybody but you. you insecure kitty! jeez.


Males want to treetrunk her...thats my point


the point is not that they want to. i'm sure she has female friends that want to as well. bisexuality is very common now. the issue is your insecurity assuming people want to treetrunk her. which is not her fault. it's you being a little kitty.


I wouldn't mind if she had fun with other girl or has a side chick, totally ok for me but D only mine.

I've talked to her like a true Aries...I think that she got the message now


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lol, im serious
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what difference does it make it her friends are male or female? it's not like she's treetrunking anybody but you. you insecure kitty! jeez.


Males want to treetrunk her...thats my point


the point is not that they want to. i'm sure she has female friends that want to as well. bisexuality is very common now. the issue is your insecurity assuming people want to treetrunk her. which is not her fault. it's you being a little kitty.
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I wouldn't mind if she had fun with other girl or has a side chick, totally ok for me but D only mine.

I've talked to her like a true Aries...I think that she got the message now
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Posted by ItsMeRoman
Sorry OP but as an Aries Venus woman myself. You sound like you have a passive vagina for a brain and penis.

I don't think I could date a man that cries and complaints about every little thing. It's annoying to see grown men like you not be able to handle anyone with an opinion or their own backbone.

If she seems disinterested in sex it's probably because she's not turned on by something you do.

A cap ex I dated had a breathing issue that was so annoying to hear. It was as if he had a deviated septum from doing too much Coke and was a seriously heavy breather. If repulsed me to no end. The sex drive quickly went downhill the more he'd made sounds and get into it. 😩

Aries Venus people tend to get a rap for being horny people that are down to treetrunk like animals anytime any day and that's not the case. Aries Venus opens up sexually when trust is built and they feel secure and loved/adored.

Sounds like you two need to break up so you can let her free and she can find better dicks/love.


jeez, what is your sun and mars? Sorry but you sounds like a hoe to me

She isn't like that, don't forget that she has a taurus sun. She is quite selective about her partners but I have to agree that she dislike when I complain like a little cookiemonster and when I look back I feel shame of my acts but I think this is more related to my Chiron in Câncer 2nd house. She likes fighters and I really look like a fighter but my weak spot is that Im too emo sometimes but this is what makes me loyal to her too...If I would act like an Aries man as she wants, I would cheat on her but she would be more happy...

Should I cheat on her and live on my Aries instinct? I have it in the 11th house so quite detached, wouldnt be a problem for me if I wasnt too emo (that she hates).


You shouldn't cheat and you shouldn't be anything else other than yourself. Make the adjustments you have to do as you are growing up but don't be someone you aren't. And I suggest you stop blaming your placements for whatever behaviour is happening. Yes it's nice to have an interest in astrology and see patterns repeating. But at the end of the day and when the heat is up you are the one there. Not chiron or venus. Face the problems from the front. You can resolve them or not but don't go around in circles.

And @ItsMeRoman was just trying to help you. She doesn't sound like a hoe. She sounds like someone who took a couple of minutes to give you some advice. Tough advice? Yes, but it was meant to help you.
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I wasnt trying to offend her, she just sounded like a hoe IMO and I know that life isnt just astrology but here is an Astrology forum so I try to relate everything to it to make sense to the users here.
But thanks for your advice just like her I need to mature too, we are Always learning
Posted by ItsMeRoman
Sorry OP but as an Aries Venus woman myself. You sound like you have a passive vagina for a brain and penis.

I don't think I could date a man that cries and complaints about every little thing. It's annoying to see grown men like you not be able to handle anyone with an opinion or their own backbone.

If she seems disinterested in sex it's probably because she's not turned on by something you do.

A cap ex I dated had a breathing issue that was so annoying to hear. It was as if he had a deviated septum from doing too much Coke and was a seriously heavy breather. If repulsed me to no end. The sex drive quickly went downhill the more he'd made sounds and get into it. 😩

Aries Venus people tend to get a rap for being horny people that are down to treetrunk like animals anytime any day and that's not the case. Aries Venus opens up sexually when trust is built and they feel secure and loved/adored.

Sounds like you two need to break up so you can let her free and she can find better dicks/love.


jeez, what is your sun and mars? Sorry but you sounds like a hoe to me

She isn't like that, don't forget that she has a taurus sun. She is quite selective about her partners but I have to agree that she dislike when I complain like a little cookiemonster and when I look back I feel shame of my acts but I think this is more related to my Chiron in Câncer 2nd house. She likes fighters and I really look like a fighter but my weak spot is that Im too emo sometimes but this is what makes me loyal to her too...If I would act like an Aries man as she wants, I would cheat on her but she would be more happy...

Should I cheat on her and live on my Aries instinct? I have it in the 11th house so quite detached, wouldnt be a problem for me if I wasnt too emo (that she hates).
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You have aries sun. You should understand the parts of her in aries. She feels misunderstood and you understand her. She chases you down didn't she?

Does she seem proud and fishes for compliments alot?


Yeah, She is Always looking for the spotlight and when she got someone's attention, she seems very happy.

Posted by edgelord
what difference does it make it her friends are male or female? it's not like she's treetrunking anybody but you. you insecure kitty! jeez.


Males want to treetrunk her...thats my point
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Posted by Koniuchaa
Have you talked to her about this?


Yeah and she is very passive about it, once she said to me I will never ask for a man to stay, if you him want to leave just leave. She has Neptune and Uranus in the 1st house so she is quite unreliable and " accept " the life changes passively


She sounds selfish, unbending, uncompromising. All of which are bad traits to even begin and try to embrace a happy relationship. Is she young?


Yeah, she has these bad traits not so young (22) 4 years younger than me


Immature. She has alot to learn hopefully she doesn't lose a good man in the process. She's ruled by her ego.
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Thanks!

Yeah, her ego is a big problem...Even when she is wrong its painful for her to say sorry. I blame that Leo Mars
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lessons learnt. do not watch 300 again with her.


LOL, Always waiting for my threads to throw a joke but never a truly opinion


ahaha i'm sorry raad. you know me can't be too serious.

my opinion is you should man up. maybe she wanted you to be mad or at least scold her every time she do all those things you said. put her back in her place. you're the man lol.


Growing up sucks!


i hear ya lol


What can I say? I give up. Lol
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Thanks for your inputs btw but you didn't say how do you expect a man to dominate you, clarify please
Venus in Taurus - Loyal AF
Mars in Cancer - Taking care of you until they die
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“I was born with an enormous need for affection and a terrible need to give it.”- Audrey Hepburn, Venus in Aries

I think she may want you to be the man! She is trying to dominate you but she wants you to win. She wants the challenge. She wants the fight.
A bit more passion. She is trying to make trouble so you step up and dominate her.



How could I do this? As a Venus in Aries please tell me

I've tried but she Always say that im trying to take out her freedom


Because you can not control her or tell her what to do.

I think you need to be more sexually aggressive. It seems like she is trying to challenge you.

Another thing is we like to be one of the boys. We like male energy. Nothing better for me to be with my man and his mates. That is fun. But at the same time we are super feminine and we want to be treated as a woman. Don't get jealous about her having male friends. We wouldn't understand it. You are her man. Nothing to be jealous about.


Well, so I dont see this relationship going well. I really dislike the fact that my GF like to be around males even with my mates, I wouldn't like to think that she is walking around talking, meeting and having fun with men that deep down just want an excuse to have sex with her...thats not for me, maybe im not " man " enough to deal with it


I think you are right. You are not man enough for her.
You are both young and want to control.

I need my man to be completely secure of what we have so he wouldn't feel intimidated about me having male friends.


Agreed...I want my GF to be feminine not a tomboy


I am super feminine. More than any of my girls friends. So that has nothing to do with it.
I am happy with male energy. More dinamic? I found conversation much more fun?

But my man feels proud of me because of it, not intimidated.


Good for him, thats not my definition of femininity...Taurus/Câncer/Pisces energy is feminine IMO just to illustrate


Maybe that is why I am very feminine. I am a Pisces after all with a Taurus moon.
I am a woman, woman. I know what I want and I need a stong man that doesn't control me.

What can I say... I think you want some one different. I don't think she will make you happy.
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well, so you're feminine then...

I just don't like the idea of my gf hanging around with a bunch of horny dogs...I want her to go shopping with her female friends, go to the beauty center, cook, take care of her pets and etc...
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lessons learnt. do not watch 300 again with her.


LOL, Always waiting for my threads to throw a joke but never a truly opinion


ahaha i'm sorry raad. you know me can't be too serious.

my opinion is you should man up. maybe she wanted you to be mad or at least scold her every time she do all those things you said. put her back in her place. you're the man lol.
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Growing up sucks!
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I got exhausted just reading about her.
😴😴
She sounds like a brat and I would leave.
Ante nobody got time for dat.


Im starting to think so...its draining for me
I just want to have a calm week feeling secure and loved, she cant provide this but I need to think carefully before making a decision

Realistically if you stay her behavior won't change, it will wear you down. You have a water moon and earth venus like me so you won't give up easy, how ever if you wait long enough your heart will numb and you will feel empty to the touch.



Im starting to feel numb...its like that in order to have a happy relationship with her I should turn off my feelings and be ready to service

That's not happiness.
You deserve better and we all know it
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Im tired of trying...seriously, everytime there is a problem

Im starting to get the Venus in the 12th house placement
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“I was born with an enormous need for affection and a terrible need to give it.”- Audrey Hepburn, Venus in Aries

I think she may want you to be the man! She is trying to dominate you but she wants you to win. She wants the challenge. She wants the fight.
A bit more passion. She is trying to make trouble so you step up and dominate her.



How could I do this? As a Venus in Aries please tell me

I've tried but she Always say that im trying to take out her freedom


Because you can not control her or tell her what to do.

I think you need to be more sexually aggressive. It seems like she is trying to challenge you.

Another thing is we like to be one of the boys. We like male energy. Nothing better for me to be with my man and his mates. That is fun. But at the same time we are super feminine and we want to be treated as a woman. Don't get jealous about her having male friends. We wouldn't understand it. You are her man. Nothing to be jealous about.


Well, so I dont see this relationship going well. I really dislike the fact that my GF like to be around males even with my mates, I wouldn't like to think that she is walking around talking, meeting and having fun with men that deep down just want an excuse to have sex with her...thats not for me, maybe im not " man " enough to deal with it


I think you are right. You are not man enough for her.
You are both young and want to control.

I need my man to be completely secure of what we have so he wouldn't feel intimidated about me having male friends.


Agreed...I want my GF to be feminine not a tomboy


I am super feminine. More than any of my girls friends. So that has nothing to do with it.
I am happy with male energy. More dinamic? I found conversation much more fun?

But my man feels proud of me because of it, not intimidated.
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Good for him, thats not my definition of femininity...Taurus/Câncer/Pisces energy is feminine IMO just to illustrate
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Posted by Capmercury87
I got exhausted just reading about her.
😴😴
She sounds like a brat and I would leave.
Ante nobody got time for dat.


Im starting to think so...its draining for me
I just want to have a calm week feeling secure and loved, she cant provide this but I need to think carefully before making a decision

Realistically if you stay her behavior won't change, it will wear you down. You have a water moon and earth venus like me so you won't give up easy, how ever if you wait long enough your heart will numb and you will feel empty to the touch.

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Im starting to feel numb...its like that in order to have a happy relationship with her I should turn off my feelings and be ready to service
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“I was born with an enormous need for affection and a terrible need to give it.”- Audrey Hepburn, Venus in Aries

I think she may want you to be the man! She is trying to dominate you but she wants you to win. She wants the challenge. She wants the fight.
A bit more passion. She is trying to make trouble so you step up and dominate her.



How could I do this? As a Venus in Aries please tell me

I've tried but she Always say that im trying to take out her freedom


Because you can not control her or tell her what to do.

I think you need to be more sexually aggressive. It seems like she is trying to challenge you.

Another thing is we like to be one of the boys. We like male energy. Nothing better for me to be with my man and his mates. That is fun. But at the same time we are super feminine and we want to be treated as a woman. Don't get jealous about her having male friends. We wouldn't understand it. You are her man. Nothing to be jealous about.


Well, so I dont see this relationship going well. I really dislike the fact that my GF like to be around males even with my mates, I wouldn't like to think that she is walking around talking, meeting and having fun with men that deep down just want an excuse to have sex with her...thats not for me, maybe im not " man " enough to deal with it


I think you are right. You are not man enough for her.
You are both young and want to control.

I need my man to be completely secure of what we have so he wouldn't feel intimidated about me having male friends.
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Agreed...I want my GF to be feminine not a tomboy