Would a Virgo Man say the following if untrue?

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OctoberBaby
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Hi DxP Virgoeans. This is my first topic; I'm a new member who chanced upon this forum recently while trying to figure out what to do about my current situation. So, any insight/opinions from Virgos would be so appreciated!

I just ended a 2.5 year relationship with a man (virgo, venus in scorpio). Why? I discovered he had lied to me all along...he's married...with kids...and, have had sex with several other women (he swears only in the beginning). In the beginning, I didn't have feelings for him...it was purely for sex. Halfway through, he started contacting me ALL the time; wanted to be with me; wanted to know me better and whether I could ever see myself married to him. These last few months...I started to...

So, my question is...can a Virgo Man say the following things if he didn't mean them:

" I was not jerking you around regarding a future together... i spent thursday after work looking at an apartment (see enclosed files)... i wasn't going to discuss it with you because the last time i brought it up you told me you didn't want to hear about it since you thought married men say these things but never follow through...."

"i know i am not perfect (by far) and i keep giving you cause to distrust me... but please remember that all of these are from two years ago.... i just want to move past them... i am not sure what i can do or say to try and mend the fences but i am truly in love with you and i think you feel the same way... every day, and every moment i spent with you were amazing and i know it would only get better... so if there is any way to try again please consider it...

i know i am a good person and i know you are too... in spite of my issues i still think i would be a good fit for you and i know from the bottom of my heart that you would be an amazing fit for me.... you said on friday that we had come a long way... and there is so much farther to go....

sorry to write such a long email but if i didn't try and win you back i would regret it for the rest of my life... they say true love only comes around once and it feels like that for me... i had been sleepwalking through life until i met you... being with you is like a dream that you never want to wake up from...

i would do anything to start over with you... i know you can tell the kind of person that would do everything in their power to be a great partner.... to work tirelessly for our future and love and respect you...

i still love you very much (a
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He's a liar...We don't have to tell you that you can't trust a word from this man...He is married, sleeping with you and several OTHER women, hid it for 2 plus years which means he's a really good liar or all the women he slept with were desperately naive, I would like to think he's just a really good liar. I can only imagine the hurt and pain your feeling over this guy but IMO If it were me I would cut all contact, first couple of months will be hard but it's a good start to heal your life, I would much rather get a therapist, sit there for a year and try to figure out how I could ever not allow myself not to see this guy for who he really is. I wonder why no one has exposed this assclown to his wife, maybe she's just like everyone else being fooled or maybe she just doesn't care as long as he's paying the bills and taking care of her and the family...
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bwaaaahaha!!!!

i wonder how much effort he put into spewing forth that shit? i think that some of those passages actually came from "players for dummies."

short answer? what tiki said.

you also need to ask yourself why do you care? he's married, he's a cheater, even if he were to get divorced and be with you, what makes you think that he would all of a sudden be faithful? you ponder this to soothe your bruised ego. get over yourself. your lovin' can't make him a man. you can not absolve him of his sins. you are not venus personified.

be thankful it's over and work on healing you. you knew something was up. you had to. he couldn't have been but so available to you. aiin't but 24 hours in a day. where the hell is your self-esteem that you chose to ignore the signals.

so accept it. you got played. it sucks. tip your hat to the game and soldier on.
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From a males perspective I've delt with the famous and all sneaky Vergo lol! My old best friend was a Vergo and one thing that u must remember there is always an agenda so what would be his? Most likely to have u sexualy whenever he feels like it while staying maried forever. I mean for a vergo to get maried when they can easily stay single forever is a sign that he's not ever leaving his family, shoot for what, to pay alimony or child support get out of here and you already know vergos are cheap. U can do much better.
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arieslord
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From a males perspective I've delt with the famous and all sneaky Vergo lol! My old best friend was a Vergo and one thing that u must remember there is always an agenda so what would be his? Most likely to have u sexualy whenever he feels like it while staying maried forever. I mean for a vergo to get maried when they can easily stay single forever is a sign that he's not ever leaving his family, shoot for what, to pay alimony or child support get out of here and you already know vergos are cheap. U can do much better.
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First, thank you all for taking the time to impart your opinions/thoughts...it was appreciated.

Second, no need for concern regarding my staying/leaving...I ended things as soon as I learned of the deceit and as the days pass, have less and less desire to forgive (though, I will admit that there is a small percentage of me that wants to believe he truly loved me).

It's just that being the analytical type that I am, I am having a hard time understanding why he would say the things he said and do the things he did for me when there was no need to take it to that level. Meaning, I was not seeking an exclusive relationship (and, in fact, dated other men while seeing him...in the beginning). I travel A LOT for work, so, I find it difficult to maintain relationships. What he and I had in the beginning was ideal. I never implied to him that I wanted anything more...so, why?

And, I'm still in disbelief that it took 2.5 years for me to catch on, but, we took weekend vacations together, he came over after work/spent the night/left in morning for work soooo many times, I went to his office (he's the owner) many times and met employees, I stayed at his apartment on numerous occasions, he watched my dog for me for a week!, we spent this last Thanksgiving together at his place, when I was feeling under the weather...he left work to bring me chicken soup, he refinished the hardwood floors of my house one weekend and other handyman type things, I call him sometimes and tell him I miss him and he comes straight over...

how was I to know?
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"(though, I will admit that there is a small percentage of me that wants to believe he truly loved me). "

IF THAT IS LOVE I DONT WANT IT. He is selfish and only loves himself. If he had even the tiniest shred of morals in his body much less a love for you, he would not have done this, especially for two and half years. That's a long time! He lied to you for that long, this guy has no conscience! He never cared about you.

"how was I to know?"

You fell for the oky doke. And I am pretty sure you have never been to his home in all of the two and half years. That should of been a red flag.

"I never implied to him that I wanted anything more...so, why?"

To understand someone like that is to be sick in the mind like them. And he is sick.

This guy is a W***H***O***R***E (yuck). If he admitted to having sex with several other women, you might want to go to get checked out at the doctor's office. Stop entertaining his emails, because he full of crap. I bet while he was typing the email, crap was coming out of his ears. Your focus now is on you and moving on.

You fooled yourself by convincing yourself that you only wanted a fwb relationship, but when he started saying things you truly wanted to hear, you fell for him. FWB concept is a crock of bull. A women is naive if she thinks she can do this continuously and not develop feelings for a man. In the future, focus on having a relationship with someone before laying down with them. And ask alot of questions and be a snoop from time to time.

Reminds of an ex, he told me he was divorced and after a couple months I had a dream about his wife. It was vivid. He was deployed and I questioned him over the telephone and broke it off right then and there. He is divorced now, but I still wont take him back because he lied.
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OctoberBaby
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It's disheartening to read the level of contempt one woman (letitbe) can spew to another woman. *I* was not the one in a committed relationship. *I* was not the one who chose to cheat. I became a cheater unknowingly.

Those words I quoted are from an email he sent a week+ after it ended. When I confronted him, he tried to tell me that he was going to do this and do that so that he could leave his marriage. To which, I replied, "I don't want to hear it. You're married.' That's what he's talking about in that first quote.

How did I find out? We were approached by a family friend one night at dinner who asked how is wife was...
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Wow...you're a trip, woman (and very rude).

As I'm sure you very well are aware of, there's only so many characters allowed per posted message. SO, I provided a *SUMMARIZED* version to give my side of the story within the allotted restraints. If one had questions, all one needed to do was ask for clarification...I would have been happy to provide them. Holy crap, I didn't know I needed to tell you which friggin pant leg I put on first!

AGAIN, that man and I were only *dating* in the beginning. We *got* exclusive the last few months of my 2.5 years of knowing him. I don't know what town you live in, but, I don't live in f**kin Mayberry where *gentlemen callers* need to come over to 'da house for Ma and Pa's permission! Hell, I've had relationships where we didn't meet THE FAMILY until several years down the road! (fyi...that thanksgiving I mentioned included HIS and MY friends...wives, husbands and children included)

Your earlier messages were rather strong. You came out...gloves off, arms swinging, and, I was like 'damn, this lady's taking things a bit too personally'. But, I *chose* to give you the benefit of the doubt. But, I see now...this IS personal to you...but, O-BITTER-ONE, whoever did you wrong, it wasn't me...

In closing, your thoughts/opinions have no merit with me, so, go ahead and spew your dribble once again. Because, unlike you, *I'm* able to live up to your chosen namesake: LET-IT-BE.

(as you always lamely end your messages...) PRICELESS