kathilyn
@kathilyn
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Interpreting Cancer female zodiac indirectness?
Her chart:
Sun Cancer 14.44
Moon Scorpio 10.55
Mercury Cancer 4.16
Venus Cancer 19.50
Mars Leo 29.50
Jupiter Taurus 23.12
Saturn Leo 3.38
Uranus Scorpio 3.02 R
Neptune Sagittarius 11.45 R
Pluto Libra 9.03
Lilith Aries 27.39
Asc node Scorpio 10.28
Sun Cancer 14.44
Moon Scorpio 10.55
Mercury Cancer 4.16
Venus Cancer 19.50
Mars Leo 29.50
Jupiter Taurus 23.12
Saturn Leo 3.38
Uranus Scorpio 3.02 R
Neptune Sagittarius 11.45 R
Pluto Libra 9.03
Lilith Aries 27.39
Asc node Scorpio 10.28
So when a cancer male says he is looking for a wife or a maid?
How would you interpret that—??
How would you interpret that—??
Hmm.. okay... what I get from that is.. you offered her to be business partners before, which she declined. But NOW she's been telling you she's in desperate need of money, and appreciates all you've done for her before... and you wonder if she's hinting that she's reconsidering becoming your business partner?
Okay.. how about you ASK her, "Hey.. I know you said you need money for your surgery... are you saying that you'd like to join my business now?" 99% of the time, the way to clarify "indirectness" is to ask clear, direct questions.. preferably with yes or no answers lol
Okay.. how about you ASK her, "Hey.. I know you said you need money for your surgery... are you saying that you'd like to join my business now?" 99% of the time, the way to clarify "indirectness" is to ask clear, direct questions.. preferably with yes or no answers lol
"So when a cancer male says he is looking for a wife or a maid?"
My take? He's probably looking for a wife or a maid.. not EVERYTHING a Cancer says is indirect.
Cancer indirectness would be more like: "I'm looking for a serious relationship which is beneficial." when really, he's looking for a woman to "take care of" him - a "wife or a maid" Also, it's a clue that he's pretty traditional and expects certain "womanly duties" to be performed to his satisfaction 😛
My take? He's probably looking for a wife or a maid.. not EVERYTHING a Cancer says is indirect.
Cancer indirectness would be more like: "I'm looking for a serious relationship which is beneficial." when really, he's looking for a woman to "take care of" him - a "wife or a maid" Also, it's a clue that he's pretty traditional and expects certain "womanly duties" to be performed to his satisfaction 😛
Thanks, I appreciate your insight......trying to learn 🙂
Posted by cheeky14u
So when a cancer male says he is looking for a wife or a maid?
How would you interpret that—??
He wants both in the same person.
Posted by Nefer
Hmm.. okay... what I get from that is.. you offered her to be business partners before, which she declined. But NOW she's been telling you she's in desperate need of money, and appreciates all you've done for her before... and you wonder if she's hinting that she's reconsidering becoming your business partner?
Okay.. how about you ASK her, "Hey.. I know you said you need money for your surgery... are you saying that you'd like to join my business now?" 99% of the time, the way to clarify "indirectness" is to ask clear, direct questions.. preferably with yes or no answers lol
This. Just ask again.
Posted by justSophsPosted by Nefer
Hmm.. okay... what I get from that is.. you offered her to be business partners before, which she declined. But NOW she's been telling you she's in desperate need of money, and appreciates all you've done for her before... and you wonder if she's hinting that she's reconsidering becoming your business partner?
Okay.. how about you ASK her, "Hey.. I know you said you need money for your surgery... are you saying that you'd like to join my business now?" 99% of the time, the way to clarify "indirectness" is to ask clear, direct questions.. preferably with yes or no answers lol
This. Just ask again.click to expand
I phoned her while she was driving her father and said she'd phone me back but never got any phone call back from her. Later, I texted her by asking "you said you need money for your surgery... are you saying that you'd like to join my business now?"
I phoned her again the day after, but she didnt want to pick up her phone nor did she answer my SMS (the question above).
That's strange. Maybe she's embarrassed that her finances are in such a mess? Or maybe she DOESN'T really want to join the business... but is kind of hoping you'll just give or loan her the money to help her out? I don't really know the woman, so I can't say for sure. Until you get a straight up answer about what she really wants or is asking for here, there really isn't much you can do though. Good luck.
Posted by Nefer
That's strange. Maybe she's embarrassed that her finances are in such a mess? Or maybe she DOESN'T really want to join the business... but is kind of hoping you'll just give or loan her the money to help her out? I don't really know the woman, so I can't say for sure. Until you get a straight up answer about what she really wants or is asking for here, there really isn't much you can do though. Good luck.
Thanks Nefer ^^
Actually, I've been asked for a loan 2 years ago. She lost her whole money on funds. Indeed, some part of her father's money was lost too. She wanted to give the money she owed back to her daddy. But, I refused to loan request from her by telling her that I couldn't afford to loan her the money for the reason I have a family and my hubby doesn't agree if I loan a friend a large amount of money. Instead, I offered her to be involved in my business and I will forfeit the profits.
Her marriage is also on the rocks. Her hubby almost divorced her many times and cheated on her by going to prostitutes, hookers and escorts. When she got pregnant 1 year ago, she asked my suggestion what to do with the baby (actually she ever came up with an idea to abort the baby) and I suggested her to keep the baby and she listened to me.
Besides those I mentioned at first, she said to me that she feels her sad life close to an end and she can't stand her whole problems. She really gives up everything.
So, do you think it is kind of hoping I'll just give or loan her the money to help her out?
I'm a good hearted person and want to help her. I know a lot of people say never loan friends money but I'd like to help her out just don't want to get burned. Should I probably just give her some sum of money in indirect way instead as a gift or should I wait until I get straight up answer from her?
She's jobless now and only get monthly money from husband. That's why I offered her to join the business.
My hubby said noone will help us when we both have financial problems, so he thought I just have to leave her alone in case I get straight up answer she doesn't want to join the business.
this girly sounds like an emo-vampire. *shudders* .
she needs to stop trying to get others to save her and realize only she can heal herself.
I think all cancers have to face this at some time in their lives.
The story is sad... but it's still manipulation on her part. Do you really think she'd be trustworthy as a business partner?
just my two cents.
she needs to stop trying to get others to save her and realize only she can heal herself.
I think all cancers have to face this at some time in their lives.
The story is sad... but it's still manipulation on her part. Do you really think she'd be trustworthy as a business partner?
just my two cents.
Posted by shellshocker
this girly sounds like an emo-vampire. *shudders* .
she needs to stop trying to get others to save her and realize only she can heal herself.
I think all cancers have to face this at some time in their lives.
The story is sad... but it's still manipulation on her part. Do you really think she'd be trustworthy as a business partner?
just my two cents.
What's the part of her manipulation do you think? I am not 100% sure if she'd be trustworthy as a business partner - I know her since high school and we lost in touch some years as we both live in different country. I am just trying to set up something which help her financial issue and at the same time it'd be also something value for my business.
Posted by shellshocker
this girly sounds like an emo-vampire. *shudders* .
she needs to stop trying to get others to save her and realize only she can heal herself.
I think all cancers have to face this at some time in their lives.
The story is sad... but it's still manipulation on her part. Do you really think she'd be trustworthy as a business partner?
just my two cents.
I won't say vampire lol but what I learned from cancers that they're always needy and reach for others to help them even with simple stuff. Perhaps that is due to their lack of security/confidence I don't know. What I've also noticed that once cancers set their mind on wanting X from you they won't settle unless they get X from YOU! You try to give them Y, but no no they said they need X and all they need is X! To me as a Gemini free soul that's a bit controling and to me if you're in need take what's offered don't demand.
Then again I leave it to cancers to fully explain and clear things 🙂
Oh and if you don't help them in the way they see is right you become an unfaithful/unloyal friend even if you have spent years of helping them. They don't see that because they concentrate on what's given now. Oh well I'm a human being too and I can't always be there as I have a life and problems of my own.
I just don't really understand that point and think it's a bit selfish of them.
I just don't really understand that point and think it's a bit selfish of them.
Posted by kathilynPosted by shellshocker
this girly sounds like an emo-vampire. *shudders* .
she needs to stop trying to get others to save her and realize only she can heal herself.
I think all cancers have to face this at some time in their lives.
The story is sad... but it's still manipulation on her part. Do you really think she'd be trustworthy as a business partner?
just my two cents.
What's the part of her manipulation do you think? I am not 100% sure if she'd be trustworthy as a business partner - I know her since high school and we lost in touch some years as we both live in different country. I am just trying to set up something which help her financial issue and at the same time it'd be also something value for my business.click to expand
She's filled with self pity. She cries her woes to you and even if she doesn't except your help she'll be more than happy to except your attention and concern.
"Poor me... my life is so hard. No one can understand."
Then she'll turn around and ignore you until she needs another emotional fix.
Probably doesn't mean to do it but she's too wrapped up with herself to care about her effect on people. Here you are worrying about her and trying to find solutions while she's off doing her own thing...
You can't change a Cancer's mind, very similar to Capricorn in that respect.
If you help her and expect something from her in return, you're setting yourself up for disappointment.
Posted by GeminiSoulPosted by shellshocker
this girly sounds like an emo-vampire. *shudders* .
she needs to stop trying to get others to save her and realize only she can heal herself.
I think all cancers have to face this at some time in their lives.
The story is sad... but it's still manipulation on her part. Do you really think she'd be trustworthy as a business partner?
just my two cents.
I won't say vampire lol but what I learned from cancers that they're always needy and reach for others to help them even with simple stuff. Perhaps that is due to their lack of security/confidence I don't know. What I've also noticed that once cancers set their mind on wanting X from you they won't settle unless they get X from YOU! You try to give them Y, but no no they said they need X and all they need is X! To me as a Gemini free soul that's a bit controling and to me if you're in need take what's offered don't demand.
Then again I leave it to cancers to fully explain and clear things 🙂click to expand
I think it's a maturity thing GeminiSoul. It takes a while for a Cancer to get a handle on their emotions and realize just what an effect they can have on people.
Control freaks need to master the control of themselves. Rough journey...
Ya, it is about insecurity and lack of confidence. Once those are obtained... things can be pretty cool..
Posted by shellshockerPosted by kathilynPosted by shellshocker
this girly sounds like an emo-vampire. *shudders* .
she needs to stop trying to get others to save her and realize only she can heal herself.
I think all cancers have to face this at some time in their lives.
The story is sad... but it's still manipulation on her part. Do you really think she'd be trustworthy as a business partner?
just my two cents.
What's the part of her manipulation do you think? I am not 100% sure if she'd be trustworthy as a business partner - I know her since high school and we lost in touch some years as we both live in different country. I am just trying to set up something which help her financial issue and at the same time it'd be also something value for my business.
She's filled with self pity. She cries her woes to you and even if she doesn't except your help she'll be more than happy to except your attention and concern.
"Poor me... my life is so hard. No one can understand."
Then she'll turn around and ignore you until she needs another emotional fix.
Probably doesn't mean to do it but she's too wrapped up with herself to care about her effect on people. Here you are worrying about her and trying to find solutions while she's off doing her own thing...
You can't change a Cancer's mind, very similar to Capricorn in that respect.
If you help her and expect something from her in return, you're setting yourself up for disappointment.click to expand
So, IYO I'm setting myself for disappoinment by offering her to be involved in the business.
If you read what she said to me and above all I am keen to help and retain a strong friendship, would give money to her in need would be an option for her need of emotional fix?
She doesn't want to be involved with the business. It's likely an overwhelming thought for her right now. If she's going through something, it's going to be hard for her to focus on a business right now. She has to be given time to work through her feelings. I wouldn't wait. She's not answering b/c she doesn't want to disappoint you.
She feels lost. She needs someone to ground her. You've been there in the past as a steadfast friend, and now she values this in you. I don't think she trying to take advantage, or emotionally drain you. I think she'd know no boundaries if you needed her. I guess you have to ask yourself if she would go out of her way for you, like you do for her. If the answer is yes, you've got a good friend. If the answer is no, you've got to go. lol!
Best of luck to you and your friend.
She feels lost. She needs someone to ground her. You've been there in the past as a steadfast friend, and now she values this in you. I don't think she trying to take advantage, or emotionally drain you. I think she'd know no boundaries if you needed her. I guess you have to ask yourself if she would go out of her way for you, like you do for her. If the answer is yes, you've got a good friend. If the answer is no, you've got to go. lol!
Best of luck to you and your friend.
It's been a while since I posted this. I have to agree with "Brown69", my cancer friend isn't interested to be involved with the business. She said she will give back the money. She ended my phone call in mid-conversation. But, up to now she never gave the money back to me as she promised.
One thing, I found out she wasn't sick. Her husband posted some pics of their holiday abroad and one friend-photographer posted her pics during photo studio sessions on FB, indeed she spent her free times with karaoke with her friend too (actually this friend posted their pics under her album named BFF). From our phone conversation, I felt also she wasn't sick, but she lost her and her dad's money on FOREX and this made her depressive since she is afraid her das will get heart attack once he knows his money is gone.
But she once mentioned on her email that I'm her best friend and she will keep inside her heart only my name as her best friend.
It's been 7 months since our last conversation on the phone. She didn't reply my emails, didn't wish me "happy birthday" 3 months ago, didn't phone me too.
Back to topic, I'm started to wonder if she really mean by mentioning I'm her best friend after treating me like this (no contacts, no willing to give back the money as she promised). If she was truly sick like she said @the begining, I let that money gone and gave it to her without expecting anything in return.
I stopped contacting her either after she didn't response me. After all, she isn't showing online anymore on messenger.
I feel that she owes me to contact me. What do you guys think?
https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/aries/needy-people-2675305/ --> Is she a User like amethyst2002 said?
One thing, I found out she wasn't sick. Her husband posted some pics of their holiday abroad and one friend-photographer posted her pics during photo studio sessions on FB, indeed she spent her free times with karaoke with her friend too (actually this friend posted their pics under her album named BFF). From our phone conversation, I felt also she wasn't sick, but she lost her and her dad's money on FOREX and this made her depressive since she is afraid her das will get heart attack once he knows his money is gone.
But she once mentioned on her email that I'm her best friend and she will keep inside her heart only my name as her best friend.
It's been 7 months since our last conversation on the phone. She didn't reply my emails, didn't wish me "happy birthday" 3 months ago, didn't phone me too.
Back to topic, I'm started to wonder if she really mean by mentioning I'm her best friend after treating me like this (no contacts, no willing to give back the money as she promised). If she was truly sick like she said @the begining, I let that money gone and gave it to her without expecting anything in return.
I stopped contacting her either after she didn't response me. After all, she isn't showing online anymore on messenger.
I feel that she owes me to contact me. What do you guys think?
https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/aries/needy-people-2675305/ --> Is she a User like amethyst2002 said?
Posted by kathilyn
It's been a while since I posted this. I have to agree with "Brown69", my cancer friend isn't interested to be involved with the business. She said she will give back the money. She ended my phone call in mid-conversation. But, up to now she never gave the money back to me as she promised.
One thing, I found out she wasn't sick. Her husband posted some pics of their holiday abroad and one friend-photographer posted her pics during photo studio sessions on FB, indeed she spent her free times with karaoke with her friend too (actually this friend posted their pics under her album named BFF). From our phone conversation, I felt also she wasn't sick, but she lost her and her dad's money on FOREX and this made her depressive since she is afraid her das will get heart attack once he knows his money is gone.
But she once mentioned on her email that I'm her best friend and she will keep inside her heart only my name as her best friend.
It's been 7 months since our last conversation on the phone. She didn't reply my emails, didn't wish me "happy birthday" 3 months ago, didn't phone me too.
Back to topic, I'm started to wonder if she really mean by mentioning I'm her best friend after treating me like this (no contacts, no willing to give back the money as she promised). If she was truly sick like she said @the begining, I let that money gone and gave it to her without expecting anything in return.
I stopped contacting her either after she didn't response me. After all, she isn't showing online anymore on messenger.
I feel that she owes me to contact me. What do you guys think?
https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/aries/needy-people-2675305/ --> Is she a User like amethyst2002 said?
I forgot, she said to me on the phone that she had one-night-stand sex with another guy (read my post before about her marriage on the rock) and I'm the only one whom she telling to. And she wonders if I can keep that secret by not telling others.
Hmmm, I have a few takes on this whole thread...beginning with the business, and now from what you've posted today her not contacting you.
Obviously it's not me, but as a Cancer I've put myself in her shoes as to her behaviour. On the business end of it, two things. One, she probably does mean it when she said she isn't experienced. We tend to stick with what is safe and also what we know we're good at. So she probably doesn't want to set herself up to fail (I hate to fail in anything, I set myself up to do well and if I fail, I've failed myself and quite honestly, then begin to lose courage or faith in myself to take a plunge into an area again that I'm not familiar with.) as well as failing or disappointing you either. Also, I hate to feel obligated to anyone. And although you offered from the goodness of your heart, which she knows, she would feel obligated to you...like you saved her. I don't like to feel obligated to anyone, and will try whatever I can to either fix the problem myself or figure out another solution.
About not hearing from her. She's avoiding you because she knows she owes you the money, again, it's probably weighing on her and so she's sticking her head in the sand to 'pretend' you're not there until she can get you the money. She knows she's told you she will pay you back, but she probably doesn't have her own resources to do so yet. I'm not quite sure on the whole being sick thing/lie. That one has me scratching my head. BUT too, if she went on this vacay with her husband, there again she knows she owes you the money, so how could they afford that then is what she knows is running through your head. In terms of her marital problems, and all the other problems, I tend to retreat after awhile because I don't want to become and emotional burden to people. Like I'm talking about it, etc. but after awhile I need to figure it out and if I don't have an answer or am still feeling down, I don't want to talk about it to people too much...especially those I've already vented to about it. On the other hand, if she had this one-night-stand with this guy, she may be more involved with this guy now or more behind it now, and so she's lost in her own world and she's caught up in her own life (even if it doesn't have anything to do with this fling).
As hard as it is, don't take it personal but don't go out of your way anymore...she's not being fair to you when you really are trying to be a friend.
Obviously it's not me, but as a Cancer I've put myself in her shoes as to her behaviour. On the business end of it, two things. One, she probably does mean it when she said she isn't experienced. We tend to stick with what is safe and also what we know we're good at. So she probably doesn't want to set herself up to fail (I hate to fail in anything, I set myself up to do well and if I fail, I've failed myself and quite honestly, then begin to lose courage or faith in myself to take a plunge into an area again that I'm not familiar with.) as well as failing or disappointing you either. Also, I hate to feel obligated to anyone. And although you offered from the goodness of your heart, which she knows, she would feel obligated to you...like you saved her. I don't like to feel obligated to anyone, and will try whatever I can to either fix the problem myself or figure out another solution.
About not hearing from her. She's avoiding you because she knows she owes you the money, again, it's probably weighing on her and so she's sticking her head in the sand to 'pretend' you're not there until she can get you the money. She knows she's told you she will pay you back, but she probably doesn't have her own resources to do so yet. I'm not quite sure on the whole being sick thing/lie. That one has me scratching my head. BUT too, if she went on this vacay with her husband, there again she knows she owes you the money, so how could they afford that then is what she knows is running through your head. In terms of her marital problems, and all the other problems, I tend to retreat after awhile because I don't want to become and emotional burden to people. Like I'm talking about it, etc. but after awhile I need to figure it out and if I don't have an answer or am still feeling down, I don't want to talk about it to people too much...especially those I've already vented to about it. On the other hand, if she had this one-night-stand with this guy, she may be more involved with this guy now or more behind it now, and so she's lost in her own world and she's caught up in her own life (even if it doesn't have anything to do with this fling).
As hard as it is, don't take it personal but don't go out of your way anymore...she's not being fair to you when you really are trying to be a friend.
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