Is this 'Too Much' to do for a Cancer bf?

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Hey there! My boyfriend of 3 months (a very typical Cancer) is visiting his family for 11 days, and while he's gone he's having hardwood floors installed in his place. We spent the day together before he left packing up all his stuff, tearing out the carpet and scraping all that black gunk off the floors.

He left me his keys to let the contractors in, and I'm to pick up the keys on Saturday before he returns on Monday.

What I'm wondering is this... I know the place is going to be dusty and gross, and all his furniture is on the balcony covered in tarps right now. Would it be too much for a 3 month relationship to spend the weekend cleaning his place and re-setting up the furniture? Or do you think he'd be impressed and happy by that? Knowing what we know about Cancers and their homes...

I wouldn't be rearranging anything - just cleaning and putting the stuff back where it was to begin with...
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"Would it be too much for a 3 month relationship to spend the weekend cleaning his place and re-setting up the furniture? Or do you think he'd be impressed and happy by that?"

Hell no...You have a life don't you? Get busy being focused on your own life, DON'T ORBIT AROUND THIS MAN, he will not appreciate it the way you THINK he will. You have went beyond the duty of girlfriend and now your just coming off as approval seeking which is a total turn off, if you want to make this man think your ready to walk down the isle have his babies and set up a nest in his home before you even get started thus RUNNING him off this is a great way to do it.

Let him clean his own place, if he needs help then allow him the CHOICE to ask for help. Don't OVERDUE it, women have this really bad habit of doing way too much and getting rejected over it, most women don't know or understand that her behavior can turn a man off, kill his attraction just by doing something so simple as washing his clothes, cleaning his house.

You already helped him in so many ways, I'm sure he's thankful, if you go so far as cleaning his crib he's going to start suspecting things about you that may not even be true. Do what he asked you to do NOTHING more.

And for the record you are already coming off as NEEDY because a woman with a life would never spend that much time with ONE man, doing things for ONE man, she would be out dating, getting her nails done, hanging with her girlfriends not sitting up under a man like she's begging for treats, picking carpet, scraping floors, packing his things, THAT IS NOT GIRLFRIEND STUFF, that is FRIEND STUFF. Never accomodate a man in this way, he will not feel romance over your actions, he will eventually put you in the LJBF box (let's just be friends box) I know that is not what you want but behaving this way with a man will surely get you the boot into that box. Next time let him do it alone or call one of his buddies/friends.

This is the mistake MANY women make, their actions say I'm moving fast, I'm on the marriage track, I'm going to prove and convince you I'm a good girlfriend, great wife material and her ass is quickly pushed OUT the door into the let's just be friends doormat....

Do what you said you were going to do for him, follow through and then spend a couple days AWAY from this man as to not give the impression your already picking out your wedding ring.
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If you just have to help a man make is seem like JUST THIS ONE time, you don't ever want a man to feel he's the center of your universe, you risk being labeled as a no lifer, cling-on, you have to make sure things are balanced in the giving department or risk losing him, too much sugar can destroy a cake, meaning too much goodness on your part can potentially destroy any good feelings he has for you so back up, lean back and let it alone. Approval seeking is not attractive, turn men TOTALLY OFF and push you into the friend zone real fast, you want to be seen as his lover not his mother.
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Hi Firefox

A typical Cancer would appreciate such gesture, you are pisces just follow your own insticts as piscean and make decision.
My pisces girl rarely says me NO but when she rejects to do smth for me usually it is something logical and i like it when
she stands her ground but when it is logical and right. In your case follow your piscean insticts.
Funny thing is that i can always persuade her even if she says no...

Do you also call each other with different names? (honey,bunny,sweetie...) i am just curious because we do alot.
I remember even searching web when i run out of such words
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Do NOT over function, I am not putting anyone down but most of these women on the cancer board are UNSUCCESSFUL with cancer men partly because they don't understand that too much giving is a turn off, you have helped him, it doesn't matter if he appreciates it, appreciation doesn't BUILD attraction with men, you can be nice but too much nice says I am seeking your approval and it never made a man want a woman more.

Warning...if you do too much which it would be too much if your cleaning his house AFTER you have baby sitted his house, let in the workers, scraped his floors, packed his belongings and pulled up his carpet you are doing too much and he will assume you are EASY, your value goes down, you want to be seen as a girlfriend NOT A DOORMAT, this is not something men verbally say to women that is why so many women are struggling with men, your behavior and action tells a story, many women don't GET this concept, they just go with instincts and wonder why these men are dogging them out, freezing them out, going into their shells and 99% of the time it's b/c they are overfunctioning, approval seeking and attention seeking which kills attraction.

You have done enough, I know your instincts say do more, he will like me more, he will love me more if I do more, he will see I'm a good wifey/girlfriend and I can promise you he will slowly NEXT you let's be friends you out of his life. You do not want to send the I want to get married settle down vibe too soon.

some men even the nice guys will USE you if you let them, if you want to be wifey and clean and cook he will certainly not stop you...you want to go slow, your behavior is saying FAST and this is what I see a lot of women do, they say I don't want anything serious, I want to go slow but her actions say fast and quick...just slow it down

He's a great guy I'm sure, he's trusting you with his home, he's spending time with you, don't rush it by DOING what you believe will help him decide you are the one for him. Be positive and know your good enough and know you don't have to do things to show that to a man.

Just be cool, be yourself and treat yourself with love and respect and he will love and respect you too
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All I can say is search your mind and heart and ask yourself why you feel the need to DO more. If you feel you want to do more just because then do it but if you have an inkling of emotions that say I want to clean his house because it will make him like me more, trust me more, give me more love and attention, it will help him love me, like me, be attracted to me, want me more then STOP because that is approval seeking and it's a relationship killer.

So clean or not clean, it all depends on your own reasons and agenda, if you have no agenda, you just want to clean then clean but please don't do anything for a man in hopes of getting his love, time, attention and heart, that is not how you do it, what you will do is INVITE mistreatment and be on DXP sulking about why he's no longer talking to you and hiding in his shell.
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Well, I wouldn't be doing it because I'm hoping he'll fall for me or something - lol, he's already told me he loves me!!! I'd be doing it because it'd be a nice thing to do and I'd be bored on Saturday anyway... the poor guy will be coming in late on Monday and needs to work the next morning, so it'd be nice for us to at least have a bed set up to sleep in when he gets home, non? I don't need to win him - I think I've already done that, and he calls me his baby and has telephoned me like every night since he's gone home (haha, mostly to vent about what a bad time he's having - but that's because I'm his sympatheic ear and I make jokes and put him in a really good mood).

And I should say that it wasn't a chore to rip out the carpets with him... it was a lot of fun... we had a great day together doing it, it was really romantic. He took me out for drinks after and we spent the night dancing and having fun after it was all over.

I did some thinking and it'd be too much to put all the furniture away for him - but if I swiffer his floor, put the couch back upright where it was, clean his countertop and stovetop... and make his bed that'd be good... It'd take like an hour at the most...

And like I said, I'd be doing it because doing little things for him makes me happy - not because I'm trying win his heart.
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Well, I wouldn't be doing it because I'm hoping he'll fall for me or something - lol, he's already told me he loves me!!! I'd be doing it because it'd be a nice thing to do and I'd be bored on Saturday anyway... the poor guy will be coming in late on Monday and needs to work the next morning, so it'd be nice for us to at least have a bed set up to sleep in when he gets home, non? I don't need to win him - I think I've already done that, and he calls me his baby and has telephoned me like every night since he's gone home (haha, mostly to vent about what a bad time he's having - but that's because I'm his sympatheic ear and I make jokes and put him in a really good mood).

And I should say that it wasn't a chore to rip out the carpets with him... it was a lot of fun... we had a great day together doing it, it was really romantic. He took me out for drinks after and we spent the night dancing and having fun after it was all over.

I did some thinking and it'd be too much to put all the furniture away for him - but if I swiffer his floor, put the couch back upright where it was, clean his countertop and stovetop... and make his bed that'd be good... It'd take like an hour at the most...

And like I said, I'd be doing it because doing little things for him makes me happy - not because I'm trying win his heart.
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claire de lune and james bond are not women who've been unsuccessful with cancer men..... they ARE cancers. Listen to the people who know; not the ones that need to hear themselves speak and be praised.

It's a wonderfully sweet gesture and if it makes you happy to do soemthing helpful for him then by all means do it - it IS your happiness too after all. Be yourself for sure, and if this you and you want to do it then go for it.

Some women think cooking and cleaning for a man is demeaning, some women enjoy it and it gives them personal fulfillment to take care of others. I am the second type and it sounds like you are as well. Don't worry about what other women do - be the woman that YOU are and expect this man or any other to love you that way or he isn't worth your time and effort.
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IMO your doing too much and your going to get pushed out that door, read these cancer boards, your story is no different from theirs, read how many were just like you then they come back whining and pining on why he's in his shell and won't talk for weeks at a time, read how many cancer men take their girlfriends for granted, dog them out after the honeymoon is done, your moving fast, slow it down, him saying he loves within a 3 month span of time you means your moving too fast, you both are, HE IS GOING TO STOP one day and say what the f*ck do I do now, the honeymoon is over, I don't intend on marry her and then he's going to go cold on you, stop making everything so easy, shift a bit more focus on you not him and that will keep him INTO you instead of running away from you and that will get you through AFTER the honeymoon is over, your at a critical point of the relationship, If I'm wrong well I'm wrong but I have a gut feeling I'm not.

Slow and Steady wins the race with a Cancer man...

I said enough

good luck
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Hi Angelfish, Pisces and Cancer is one of good combos therefore I was suggesting Firefox to act based on her own insticts that would be i think
natural way.

Tiki33, you want to taste free sample of milk before you commit to buy a cow, dont you? My point is, if a woman is not showing all that good
qualities (cooking, caring...) in bf and gf phase she wont be doing it in husband and wife phase either.
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Posted by jamesbond

Hi Angelfish, Pisces and Cancer is one of good combos therefore I was suggesting Firefox to act based on her own insticts that would be i think
natural way.

Tiki33, you want to taste free sample of milk before you commit to buy a cow, dont you? My point is, if a woman is not showing all that good
qualities (cooking, caring...) in bf and gf phase she wont be doing it in husband and wife phase either.



OOOh jamesbond LOL you are not selling me on that, some men, men that understand how to date screen women out way before she picks up his laundry, wash his clothes, cook so NO their is no need to buy the cow if he already know he can get that milk for free. He already know if this woman is going to be a good quality woman just by talking to her.

I'm curious, I wll bet you got your girl jumping through hoops like all these women on the cancer board LOL, she is qualifying herself because your the prize right? She know if she off her game she will lose you, I bet she has invested all her time and energy making it easy for you so you will put a ring on it and I'm sure you have yet to put a ring on it, bought a ring, got on one knee, sent out invitations and set that marriage date.

I appreciate your point of view, it's good to get male perspective....
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I don't remember a single story on this message board where a woman helped her cancer boyfriend [who has already says he loves her] clean up and he dumped her..... but okay.........

Jamesbond - what I was trying to say was that you ARE a cancer - and a cancer male no less, so your advice on this subject is worth more than those who are neither cancer nor male, myself included; however when my opinion agrees with that of a cancer male [on the subject of cancer men] then it is safe to assume my opinion is correct.........

the bottom line here is that there is no right or wrong way - people with similar values belong together and while fore some women strong and independent, never do a thing for a man who hasn't put a ring on her finger, may work - it's her and her personality, and that's OKAY. The n she needs a man that wants that kind of woman and appreciates her. On the other hand, a woman who enjoys being a caretaker [I said ENJOYS] belongs with a man who likes to know he'll be taken care of by a woman - and cancer men do like to know that.

It IS possible to be a caretaker and still be a strong independent woman. There is a difference between being a doormat and being the matriarch of the household......
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MAN - I can't believe how this topic has exploded... All I wanted to do was something nice for my BF LOL

Ok, so I've taken what everyone has said and I'm changing my strategy. This is the new plan. I'll swiffer his floor (it's a very small condo, so it'll take like 2 minutes), flip the couch back over, and wipe off the countertop so it's clean (again, 2 minutes of work). THEN... he loves stir-fry; I'll bring over all the ingredients and place them nicely on the counter with a bunch of candles ready to light - so when I pick him up at the airport we can have a really romantic home-cooked dinner!

Sound better and less motherly than cleaning the place—
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MAN - I can't believe how this topic has exploded... All I wanted to do was something nice for my BF LOL

Ok, so I've taken what everyone has said and I'm changing my strategy. This is the new plan. I'll swiffer his floor (it's a very small condo, so it'll take like 2 minutes), flip the couch back over, and wipe off the countertop so it's clean (again, 2 minutes of work). THEN... he loves stir-fry; I'll bring over all the ingredients and place them nicely on the counter with a bunch of candles ready to light - so when I pick him up at the airport we can have a really romantic home-cooked dinner!

Sound better and less motherly than cleaning the place—
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Posted by Firefox
MAN - I can't believe how this topic has exploded... All I wanted to do was something nice for my BF LOL

Ok, so I've taken what everyone has said and I'm changing my strategy. This is the new plan. I'll swiffer his floor (it's a very small condo, so it'll take like 2 minutes), flip the couch back over, and wipe off the countertop so it's clean (again, 2 minutes of work). THEN... he loves stir-fry; I'll bring over all the ingredients and place them nicely on the counter with a bunch of candles ready to light - so when I pick him up at the airport we can have a really romantic home-cooked dinner!

Sound better and less motherly than cleaning the place—



Great idea, do things TOGETHER, that will send a subconscious message that you are not nesting in his home, playing wifey and coercing your way into his life, it will make it comfortable for you and him.

Until you know his agenda you are in a really delicate situation, he can talk about marriage, settlign down but if he ain't put a ring on it,it's all talk and don't assume he's talking about you.

Your good enough and being good enough, you don't have to do things to stay in the relationship, women are natural givers, we give 100% of our energy, time, love to men but sometimes our giving can turn a man off especially if he's not sure about you and yes he can profess his love and still not be sure, it's not conscious, it's subconscious feelings that surface and the man will BACK UP and AWAY if he feels pressured.

I am giving you some powerful tips that most women have no clue about, they just DO what makes her feel good and she wonders why a man isn't INTO her anymore, doing things can easily make a man feel friendship and once that feeling kicks in your OUT.

So I feel you have a decent plan, one were you not doing too much, sending a comfortable at ease vibe so have fun with your man, I know that's truly what you want, to have a great relationship with him but sometimes a woman has to stop doing what feels right to her and do what's right for the relationship to keep it fun, sizzling hot and romantic.
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"I am giving you some powerful tips that most women have no clue about, they just DO what makes her feel good and she wonders why a man isn't INTO her anymore"

Boy, you are so full of yourself...and full of shit too might I add. You think you're so damn wise..... and here you are saying women shouldn't do what makes THEM happy... they should do what makes a man happy, do what HE wants in order to maintain HIS interest....and yet a few posts back you were talking about how a woman shouldn't do anything for a man unless he puts a ring on her finger.... she should worry about HERSELF..... but of course she should only do what makes HER happy if it's approved by YOU......... your story has so many twists and turns I feel like I'm on mr. Toad's wild ride here.

And yeah - I addressed YOU as an individual because YOU are the one giving fake ass advice to try to be the sage of the cancer board...... you don't even care if a CANCER MAN says your advice is wrong - you just want everyone to tell you how wise and helpful you are. You are so self-centered.....

So go on and start your sob story about how you didn't address me personally and I just started attacking you. Calling you out on your BULLSHIT is more like it. And you don't know jack shit about cancer men or what they want/like.

I'm done on this topic; your attitude couldn't be more off for a cancer man, but it doesn't matter if every cancer male on DXP comes in here and says you're wrong tiki - you will STILL insist you're right.......
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I am so glad that women that are with cancer men send me emails saying I am right LOL, just got a couple of em today, I see no need to address your thoughts, your too easy, you let people control how you feel inside, why address you when you have no control over yourself so much so you don't even understand anything I say so you get evil and frustrated over it and attack me, your behavior is unattractive always has been and it's really not worth my time to fight over something I said to someone else

XF I have to do what these cancer men do to you....ignore you and NEXT you by moving on to something more attractive

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if you women that are so into cancer men that understand them would have paid attention, you would understood the question and understood that if a man don't feel forever with a woman he is going to let her do all the work in the relationship and he will have no intentions of being her forever man...he will sample that cow and never buy that milk and have her singing the blues on this cancer board, if your going to do anything for a man do it WITH him not FOR HIM or don't do it at all, that is the most powerful message a woman can send to a man.

I see why cancer men get over on you women....
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Posted by *Tasha
oh p.s.!!!!!!

i cleaned up for a guy once (who i was dating) my friend (his sister) and i were soooooooo bored. so i cleaned b/c i'm OCD...and she cooked blah

and he told me "thank u so much!!!!!!!!!!" and invited me back out there and everything - i never cleaned again. but he certainly didn't drop me right after he saw the place didn't have dirty milk on the floor. (ew)



Tasha I'm not really debating this, you do what you need to do and that includes any woman that is dating a man or not dating a man cancer or not, my advice is not about zodiac signs, so if you or any woman want to clean, cook, play him a symphony and cook a 10 course meal or whatever she feels compelled to do that is her business, I say what I want to say and if a person does'nt agree then that's fine by me, I can be confident and I can seem arrogant to others yet I am confident in what I say because my email box stay full, my style will not appeal to every woman, I help many women that don't even post on DXP but follow these threads, so I have no need to oppose XF, if a woman doesn't feel it's her style then that's cool but I REFUSE to attack people over a post, it's ridiculous behavior.
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I see.... these women supposedly email you telling you that you are right.... and yet not only do none of them say it here for everyone else to see in your defense, but cancer men come in here and tell you personally that you are WRONG.... many cancer men have come in here and told you that.... including ones you claim ignore me because my attitude is unnatractive......and these same CANCER MEN have come here and said that I am right, so keep lying to yourself. I am not evil but I am frustrated - at your complete idiocy and narcissism.

You are the one who doesn't understand cancer men. And you definately didn't understand the question. Enough said because you're as ignorant and self-centered as they come.
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Posted by xangelfishx
I see.... these women supposedly email you telling you that you are right.... and yet not only do none of them say it here for everyone else to see in your defense, but cancer men come in here and tell you personally that you are WRONG.... many cancer men have come in here and told you that.... including ones you claim ignore me because my attitude is unnatractive......and these same CANCER MEN have come here and said that I am right, so keep lying to yourself. I am not evil but I am frustrated - at your complete idiocy and narcissism.

You are the one who doesn't understand cancer men. And you definately didn't understand the question. Enough said because you're as ignorant and self-centered as they come.



Right or Wrong I don't debate that with you nor do I need to attack you, call you names, tell you your wrong on every other post, debate with you about whose wrong and whose right, nor be defensive.

None of us here have cornered the market on cancer men or any other astrological sign. Not everyone feels comfortable coming on DXP telling all her business, some people prefer anonymity. You win XF, I lose yet as long as my email box stay full I'm happy with that truth. As for men telling me I'm wrong, Jamesbond danced all around my post, didn't give a straight up answer so I wouldn't clarify that as being anything yet I appreciate his advice all the same because it's not something to fight about.
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Posted by *Tasha
k. good. i'm just stating my opinion like u did yours...and gave my example - so she has some hope!!!!!

in general though it is definitely not a good idea to do too much and i agree with that. but this one time i honestly thought it was a nice gesture

but (ex) friend i don't like the girl at all. is ALWAYS trying to push ideas that throw men out the door so fast. she told me (when i had dating my scorpio for one month) to go buy him some clothes

...? then she wanted me to invite MYSELF out to visit another guy. like why would u do things like that? anyways. that's pushing it. but.......that is all



Tasha your opinion is appreciated, your a sweetheart, keep co-signing if that's what you want to do
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you're such a subversive little shit. The difference is I will come right out and say it to your face - not hide behind "well some women....." and then turn around and make a statement directly related someone's post. You're not above all that - you're just a coward - it's your way of contradicting someone and feeling like you can go back and say "I didn't start anything" even though you're "advice" was a direct contradiction of something said before you..... you're so fake. full in box my ass.
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Posted by xangelfishx
and Tasha it's not about co-signing, if something is right and you agree with it that doesn't make you part of a "clique" - that's just a word tiki and krobe like to throw around to intimidate people who disagree with them.



I have no clique but you on the other hand have a huge clique on the cancer board, so any woman that doesn't talk like you is INTIMIDATED and BULLIED off the cancer board by mostly you, I simply refuse to allow my voice to cease over here because you have strong opinions. Krobe's name shouldn't even be over here, she has not once touched this post, so much hostility and no one has done a damn thing to you XF. You have been growling at me day one, losing your cool and being catty and petty...For what? Because you don't like what people say when it's not incongruent to what you feel and think

Disagree all you want, it's a free board, no one is stopping you from disagreeing. Everyone on here can disagree or agree, their is no need to fight over post.
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Posted by xangelfishx
you're such a subversive little shit. The difference is I will come right out and say it to your face - not hide behind "well some women....." and then turn around and make a statement directly related someone's post. You're not above all that - you're just a coward - it's your way of contradicting someone and feeling like you can go back and say "I didn't start anything" even though you're "advice" was a direct contradiction of something said before you..... you're so fake. full in box my ass.



Yep, I appreciate your opinion, you have said it to my face, thanks, you win....
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and don't give me that shit about attacking you or anyone else who disagrees with me - I didn't say shit to you until about the fourth or fifth time you posted something in contradiction to my post talking about how "some women do this or that and they can't keep a cancer man". Fake ass bitch. At least I have the guts to come right out and say it and not try to hide behind semantics and be fake.
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Posted by eden 3
angel ppssh there is no end to this behaviour it will continue no matter who opposes or tells her she is wrong ! I have tried & tried she won't listen...cuz some love sick fools buy into it...

I have said this over & over I got the worst advice on this board once that may have ruined my life...luckily I did not listen...

I knew it was bullshit & even referred to it as man chasing away bullshit to which many men agreed...

it isn't even worth ur time or energy....



Here comes the clique...

your right...you win too
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" never understood why users on here come and tell others about a particular sign when they know didly squat. More over how are you gonna tell cancers that they dont know cancers? I imagine that all cancers know each other damn well. Users such as well Tiki here ( and tiki chiill your ass out when you readthis) jump back and forth and switch their stories and deny it half way) and in the end talk air and have no idea about cancers other that what they read in books. Which is all good but it doesnt come close to knowing a cancer face to face."


Here comes more of the clique...

Simple fact is I didn't agree with anyone else, not only did I not agree I followed up on what I didn't agree with and I included my opinion on what I felt would be a better option and she seemed to find a happy meduim which is great.

I have no need to chill out when this issue is not a hot button for me.


all in all your right...

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Posted by LovelyMissAries
Hmm... I seem to recall Tiki also telling me to get a life on my Leo thread... I see it's a recurring pattern.

Firefox... if he's a Cancer.. and a typical one... he'll LOVE the gesture. Cancers absolutely adore nesting gestures because it vocalizes security and stability which is something they crave. Go ahead and do it. He left you the keys didn't he?



Hmmm recurring pattern, true yet I did caution you on your behavior towards your leo and from what I just read he decided to stop seeing you...sorry to hear that
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btw, I don't need a clique tiki u have seen it b4 I enter my battles alone as u know...

yep your part of the clique...but again your not part of it so your right and I'm wrong

Jacking up? I don't recall that, I recall coming in on the ass end of your issue with a supposed cheating leo husband, which became a huge issue with several posters that did not agree with your behavior being married and dating/befriending a cancer man while married, of course the proof is gone and so I must take the blame for almost jacking up your life okay blame taken.

you have deleted your profile so many times so I'm just going to leave it at your right, I'm wrong
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