What's with Cancer and

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Hi there dear Crabs!

as many of you know, I've been in a relationship with a Crab for now 6 months..and in the course of the relationship he has already tried to "break up" three times!!!!

The first time, it was because he said I was not genuine..better leave it there...I said NO, I want to carry on with you...and immediately all went back to normal. That first time I felt a lot of anguish at the threat of breaking up. Then the second time he got jealous and also said, "let's leave it here", of course I understood he needed reassurance and I chased him and happily all went back to normal.
The third time was 3 weeks ago, we had a crisis, I was having a hard time dealing with his space and time for himself, felt he was not giving me enough, I started ignoring him , he reacted, ended up thinking I was open to meeting new guys and was with him for sex only, bla bla, and said again the same words..."lets leave it here". This time I said, OK, if this is what you want, there is not much I can do about it.
His eyes went big..he said, what about YOU, what do YOU want?
I said well, why do you care, if the decision is already taken?
(I knew all the time he didnt want to break up, he broke up with me through the phone and then found any stupid excuse -bringing me back some stuff he had- to see me and come to my house)

Well I responded: If it was for me, I would go on, but well...its ok...
And he said, OK, I give you a second chance (I GIVE YOU, hahahah oK Crab, believe you are in control 😉!!!!)

And then he claimed how come I hadnt "fought" for him. He said he knew I wouldnt have contacted him again if he hadnt...and bla bla...all is normal again.

WHY THE THREATS OF ABANDONMENT AND BREAKING UP—??
is it one of your INFAMOUS TESTS—?


I am starting to understand crabs more and more...you guys are interesting. I am living a rollercoaster but Id rather have this than a boring relationship with any other sign.😉
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I don't know about this... I've never threatened to walk unless I was ready to. period.

He said he sensed that you wouldn't have contacted him again... was he right?

He may feel you are more interested in 'winning' him over and figuring him out than having a long term relationship. If he lets down his guard and admits his undying love for you, he may feel you will become bored and swim away. perhaps?

Are insecurities may often be irrational and over the top, but they are based on some element of truth. The intuition don't lie.
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Mr .Crabby: Yes I do like him, I was just trying to figure out why it is that when he got upset, he threatened to break , and when I eventually said, Ok, let's break, he panicked!

This is the part I dont understand. Why threaten and then panick if the other person just doesnt fret. Is it to be reassured that I love him? My intuition says that's it. It seems you think I dont like this Crab just because I come here for advice about something I dont get.
I do like him and Ive been and I am with him, and I feel the relationship has grown after the crisis we had three weeks ago, when I had the heart to heart.
I dont know whats wrong with you, I know you dont like me, OK, because Im a Fish, but stop being so negative.
I am not planning to break up with the guy, Im not playing games with him, Im not fooling around.
Have you been burned by fish— I feel there is resentment here. I'm sorry if that happened to you, Im not that type of Fish, I dont play with people. I just come here to try to understand the Crab I love.


SHELLSHOCKER : "If he lets down his guard and admits his undying love for you, he may feel you will become bored and swim away. perhaps?"

YES. I have the feeling he thinks this, but I have tried to reassure him. I made the terrible mistake of telling him, at hte begiinning of the relationship, that I tend to get bored with people after a while. I guess he still feels I could get bored with him, but to be honest, I dont get bored, and I love him more every day.


"Are insecurities may often be irrational and over the top, but they are based on some element of truth. The intuition don't lie."
Yes, he has been hurt a lot in the past and has told me his previous relationships were all conflictive and he also told me he was disappointed many times. I guess he is VERY insecure. I do my best to reassure him.



TREEFROGGER: "have you two had a heart-to-heart talk about where your relationship is going? i know if someone sat down with me and was genuinely worried, i would listen and try to see if a compromise could be made."

Yes we had that talk. He said he threatened to break up because he wanted to see whether I would fight for him, if I cared. He thought I didnt care so much.I also thought the same! He said he is not playing games , he wants long term, and he wants to proyect a future. He also said that he wasnt fooling with other women and wanted to know if I was open to meeting new guys. He also said , as an answer to my n
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I had similar with a crab.

If I got upset he was seemingly satisfied,almost as if it gave him reassurance.
If I said "Okay, off you go then, don't contact me again" he'd panic and try soothing words to reverse his decision.

In the end I said "Look, if I don't make you happy I'll leave you alone. If you need reassurance then ask for it directly, don't come at me with an argument to force me to tell you how I feel. It's immature and I won't tolerate it".

He never did it again and would actually say "I'm feeling unsure, I need reassurance".

It took a lot of guts to say it though, I could see it.

We did break up in the end and that was because I just couldn't deal with his grudge holding over every slight, real or imagined and I didn't want to babysit his emotions.
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Posted by gemtaur
In one of the first pictures you posted, you were pulling him towards you. It was obvious to me right then that he wasn't as in to you as you were/are into him. A picture is worth a thousand words. There's no passion, just your desire/drive to make it work.

Don't mean to be malicious but that's always been my sense about your relationship.



Ha!!!there is no passion!—? girl you dont know what you are talking about!!!

Ok if he is not into me, then why did he take me last week to meet his parents and family??

anyway, that picture was taken the second date we had. Ages ago.

Hahahah ...... anyway i guess it is not a malicious comment, no problem!! 😉
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"I'm feeling unsure, I need reassurance".

Two days ago I heard this words from a crab. It came after a 2 month of us being apart from each other. During this time, we did talk on the phone, once or twice a week, usually small talk about our job, nothing about the two of us. So there he is ... talking to me about how he needs stability from me. I told him I am always there for him and other things he needed to hear. He says you know that i love you, I said I don't, he says you should, after kind of forcing him to say that.

Yesterday was a great day, I wanted him to tell me again that he loves me, he said that when we are apart he loves me and when we are together he loves me more. At the end of our date I suddenly got upset and distant: I told him that I feel he desires me (to have sex), I feel he is dependent of my hands over his body, but I don't feel he loves me. Then such a different man came out. He says he could never be trusty to a girl, that he broke a lot of hearts to the girls, that he was dumped only once (and he that girl is still in his heart), that when we are apart he thinks of me but also he things of other girls too, that he needs diversity. Something like you are no different then any other girl...

I am so intrigued... Now he needs to know that I am still there for him and after a day ... one minute he tells me that he loves me and when I say that I don't feel that he changes the hole thing ... not even trying to say... "but I do love you".

Maybe is about the hole mind games that virgos and crabs play all the time? So... What's with Cancer?
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Angelic it sounds like you are playing games. Someone tells you they love you, you tell them you don't love them but want them to tell you again wtf? Then you get what you want but act distant and upset. You then go on to tell him you believe the worst about him and put up walls after he opened up to you and you don't understand why he flipped. My guess is that you hurt him so he wanted to hurt you back. While I think that's immature on his part, how much better are you that you find it intriguing?
You don't need to worry about the sex thing. He will probably like that you want to wait, but pushing him away is a bad strategy. I think that Cancers like to feel in sync with their partner He probably wants to feel like the two of you are one and you are throwing him off by rejecting him so he starts acting out. If you push him away too much eventually he won't be able to deal with it and write you off completely.

Pisces Arg, I'm only involved with one Cancer so I'm not sure about everyone else's take on the breaking up and if that's true or not with yours (it doesn't seem that way to me) but for mine I think it was just a tactic to get me to do what he wanted. He did it once but when I went along with the break up he backed out and hasn't done it again.
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Everyone has their own "reaching point" - in that it takes however long it takes to gain that trust, comfort, confidence and stability to feel at ease in a romantic situation. It's the in between time that we have to deal with....and it's a rollercoaster with a crab - or with anyone with trust issues.

PA: do what your gut tells you to do, yes?
If you don;t know what to do - do nothing.

If he breaks it off, he breaks it off. I doubt he will though. If someone really HAS reached that point in their head where they truly don't want a relationship, they'll disappear because all emotional attachment has gone, never to return.



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Posted by PiscesArgie
Mr .Crabby: Yes I do like him, I was just trying to figure out why it is that when he got upset, he threatened to break , and when I eventually said, Ok, let's break, he panicked!

This is the part I dont understand. Why threaten and then panick if the other person just doesnt fret. Is it to be reassured that I love him? My intuition says that's it. It seems you think I dont like this Crab just because I come here for advice about something I dont get.
I do like him and Ive been and I am with him, and I feel the relationship has grown after the crisis we had three weeks ago, when I had the heart to heart.
I dont know whats wrong with you, I know you dont like me, OK, because Im a Fish, but stop being so negative.
I am not planning to break up with the guy, Im not playing games with him, Im not fooling around.
Have you been burned by fish— I feel there is resentment here. I'm sorry if that happened to you, Im not that type of Fish, I dont play with people. I just come here to try to understand the Crab I love.



I guess I'll just stop commenting after that, but you both seem to have serious relationship issues. It looks like you are both wasting your time, both knowing that it cannot work. You come off as someone who wants to change things rather than accept reality. That guy is just trying to keep up any way he can. Good luck to you all.
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I do this all the time too. There's something wrong if he's up this...It's the oldest trick in the book!
He's saying "Appreciate me more. Pay more attention to me. Give me more affection. Spend more time with me. Show me that you love me. Rub my head. Rub my back. Comfort me more. Wash my hair. Shower with me. Intimacy please." It's the old Cancer insecurity rearing it's ugly head. If we feel more in love with you than we feel you are with us, we need you to prove that your feelings are as deep as ours. I know...sucks, but it's a security thing. We need lots of reassurance that we aren't being made a fool of.

One caveat regarding Cancers. Once we make a break, and stop being in close contact with you for an extended time, we don't return. We'll be your friend, but never your mate again. Now little breakups where a couple will be working things out is different, but if a Cancer leaves and you don't hear from them, don't see them. It's a done deal. If you call we'll be cordial, but that's about it. Weird, I know.
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This is why i like dating FIRE men. Other water signs bore the holy fukk outta me. I Have to pick a fight just to get some release of tension. Oh and i have alot of cancer male friends and 1 cancer female friend. We all took a vote and agree, the romantic thing in bed can be fun. BUT Honestly Argie, were not THAT Damn boring. I am gonna give away a cancer secret, i know, i know, i shouldnt ..But here it goes. .... GET DOMINANT! Dirty talk, nastier the better! Romance is okay, but all the time is BORINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Show up in heals and leather and tell him to get on his fukkin knees and lick your cooter. Yup! And act a little possessive ONCE IN AWHILE, Without going through his crap, It WILL make us FEEL WANTED!

Okay, that is all........ *smirk*
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Mehh..

Many cancers in this thread except cancersunleomoon123 are in denial..

ok cancers: pisces, aqua.. and now scorp are speaking from experience that cancers threaten a break up MOST OF THE TIME. I think it's part of the manipulation thing. To get what they want. it's tiring though, cos its a never ending thing.. it will go away if you follow all the advice above, they all work, yes, but..it will happen again. that's just how cancers are. the real answer is ACCEPTANCE. that's it. if you love him accept that he will do it again sooner or later. you have to succumb again, win him again, pretend he's the boss AGAIN. it's a cycle.. a circle of life.

@brown69/cancersunleomoon123: wow, that's so like my cancer ex boyfriend! he's like that. "make me a sandwich". "do this". "do that". "wow, you don't love me anymore.. let's break up"....

ouchie on the second paragraph though.. define Extended period of time? my cancer ex disappear and reappear from time to time. We broke up sept. last year since then we decided we're friends..

we spoke again october. he disappeared november. we spoke again december. I finally decided to leave him for good january. I didnt hear from him February. He called me again march only to disappear again april. he came back first week of May asking me if we could be together again, I said yes I am willing to try but he abandoned me. June came and i ignored his birthday, he contacted me the next day. since june, we spoke like 2-3 times a week. until yesterday where he told me I'll never hear from him again..

so yeah..the longest time we didnt speak to each other was january and February (2 months max, other than that he always calls me every month..).. back to my question.. what is this "extended period of time" how long is too long?
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UPDATE:

Yesterday I asked the CRAB HIMSELF for explanation why he had tried to break up , if he meant it.
He said at the moment (this was almost a month ago) he felt I was NEGLECTING him, and that I didnt seem to care too much about him (and , curiously I was feeling the same way), so after he proposed meeting up to talk and I answered, well, yes, when we have time, or sth like that, he exploded, just to see what I would say. He said he knew he was playing with fire but was willing to get burnt just to see what I would do. He said my aloofness to the whole situation made him feel worse, that is why he showed up angry at my house, to see if he could shake me up , stir something.
As I reacted then, he could tell I was not that indifferent and finally we could talk and theh next day everything was back to normal, I agree with CANCERIAN GODDESS, a release of tension.


I agree with what many of you have said, it is a call for attention. It seems Crabbies cant get enogh of attention and we Pisces, are not that smothering. When I started giving him more attention he even introduced me to his parents!! and gave me flowers and stuff he had never done before. He became more protective, more involved and less moody.

CANCERIAN GODDESS: Yes I agree with you! and I have done that, I am romantic, yes, but also dominant, specially in bed, he says my combination of being a girlie girl, "Heidi" type for the world but a whore in bed drives him wild...haha!!!


I know the bottomline is for you Crabbies to feel WANTED. I get it. God this forum has helped me so much!!!!
Everyday I learn new things, and to be honest, I think if it wasn't for this Forum I would have quit when things got complicated.
After reading so many stories which were so similar, I came to understand a few things about Crabs which helped a lot deal with him

I know some of you have said that we are wasting our time together and the relationship won't work, but I love this guy and Im investing a lot in him, and I have good feelings about us together.

He embodies a combination of things which make me feel full emotionally, intellectually, sexually...
We are very much alike in many ways...i guess that is why it could get difficult, since a relationship is a mirror sometimes, it reflects the best and the worst of us, faces us with fears, issues...all comes out.


I'll keep you guys updated, and so many thanks for all of your help!!

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Posted by CancerianGoddess
This is why i like dating FIRE men. Other water signs bore the holy fukk outta me. I Have to pick a fight just to get some release of tension. Oh and i have alot of cancer male friends and 1 cancer female friend. We all took a vote and agree, the romantic thing in bed can be fun. BUT Honestly Argie, were not THAT Damn boring. I am gonna give away a cancer secret, i know, i know, i shouldnt ..But here it goes. .... GET DOMINANT! Dirty talk, nastier the better! Romance is okay, but all the time is BORINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Show up in heals and leather and tell him to get on his fukkin knees and lick your cooter. Yup! And act a little possessive ONCE IN AWHILE, Without going through his crap, It WILL make us FEEL WANTED!

Okay, that is all........ *smirk*




OMG - I love it - why did that post put me in a good mood!
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Just DONT go through his stuff, it will piss him off. LOL But do act a little possessive, when he questions you, "Smile and say, because your mine" than kiss him. Were not really THAT complicated. I HATEEEEEEEEEE how astrology makes us sound like we ONLY like romance in bed,Makes us sound like a bunch of sappy,boring,dead lays. LOL, honestly, i prefer romance outta the bedroom. Thats my foreplay. In bed, pull my hair,smack my azz,call me a slut,make me feel dirty damnit! hahahaha serious! *wink*
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I dont know why indeed, you are called romantics, you are not! you are tender and affectionate, yes, but Crab men, or at least the ones I know, are very macho type, masculine and serious, OK they have some romantic gestures but above all I find them mysterious and cool , not poet-like, or bohemian or even nice.
Mine is always serious, so when he smiles for me I melt.
His humor is acid and sarcastic. He is not to be fooled with...
Typical guy, loves his car and pumping iron. Not a softie 😉

Thanks CG,indeed I won't touch his stuff -I dont like that- (though he could check mine, for sure)- but I will be a bit more possessive, and then will tell you how it went LOL!!
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Well I HATE when astrology says all Pisces are compassionate, human and bullshit. WE are all addicted to drugs and alcohol and drowning in emotions and crying...NOT AT ALL!!
I wont deny Im emotional but Im very strong..very inependent and not so nice all the time...
Yeah I could be tolerant but to a certain extent and could be VERY moody and when angry, I can hurt people verbally and be plain cruel. I can be selfish too and self absorbed, and care about nothing...

So I guess there could be some basic stuff but the Sun is only one element really...
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Posted by PiscesArgie
Well I HATE when astrology says all Pisces are compassionate, human and bullshit. WE are all addicted to drugs and alcohol and drowning in emotions and crying...NOT AT ALL!!
I wont deny Im emotional but Im very strong..very inependent and not so nice all the time...
Yeah I could be tolerant but to a certain extent and could be VERY moody and when angry, I can hurt people verbally and be plain cruel. I can be selfish too and self absorbed, and care about nothing...

So I guess there could be some basic stuff but the Sun is only one element really...





Haha.....we have a lot in common!!
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My sensitive pisces took up a habbit of swearing here and there 🙂)

She says that it is my bad influence on her...she never swear before she met me, lol

I get excited in bed too much and do not notice how those words come out of me and she learns 🙂))



She swore before she met you for sure, but she knows that to catch a Crab she has to be all femenine, so now the Crab is in the basket, she can be herself!!!!

It is fun to do dirty talk in bed, I do it and he loves it...when he met me he thought I was a girlie girl in all aspects, and he HAD A HUGE SURPRISE..
I think he is more traditional than me..LOL
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Posted by PiscesArgie
Well I HATE when astrology says all Pisces are compassionate, human and bullshit. WE are all addicted to drugs and alcohol and drowning in emotions and crying...NOT AT ALL!!
I wont deny Im emotional but Im very strong..very inependent and not so nice all the time...
Yeah I could be tolerant but to a certain extent and could be VERY moody and when angry, I can hurt people verbally and be plain cruel. I can be selfish too and self absorbed, and care about nothing...

So I guess there could be some basic stuff but the Sun is only one element really...





Haha.....we have a lot in common!!
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Hey you look gorgeous in that pic!!
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Other than being a cancer it sounds to me like he has real abandonment issues. It seems like he fell into this behavior pattern (that may have well started in his youth) where maybe love was conditional and affection withheld. Just an idea but that's how my problems started.

I struggled with this myself many years ago. I grew up in a rather cold home. When I looked back on my past relationships I noticed that I had a tendency toward creating unnecessary drama because I desperately needed to be reassured of my partner's love for me constantly. I subconsciously figured out that if I stirred the pot, got him riled up, it would inevitably end up with him giving me that reassurance both verbally and physically which I so desperately craved. I was needy and clingy. I didn't want to lose him. I didn't want him to leave me. Hence the fear of abandonment. Fortunately, for myself and everyone in my life, I faced my demons. It took years but I made it out alive.

I wish I could tell you that there are magic words to be spoken making everything all better with him. I only know that from my experience with this ailment is that it is going to take time, patience, listening, understanding, and most importantly, his willingness to work through it. He has to make the choice to recognize it and see himself for who he is. It also depends on your standing with him as well. Do you think you possess the emotional threshold to deal with someone in this condition? I was in the middle of one when I decided to work on me. It took its toll on that relationship and it ended. I made the (wise) choice to be alone for a long while afterward and that's what really did it for me in the end.

I hope this helps in some way. I don't mean to assume that he is even suffering from this affliction but his actions sound just like the tactics I used and my issue has been brought to light. Also, say he does have it, and say you stick it out with him even just as friends, his problem will probably never fully disappear. Mine hasn't. Meaning, events can still trigger those raw emotions for me. It's just that I can easily work them out in my head now and bring myself to reason.

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Other than being a cancer it sounds to me like he has real abandonment issues. It seems like he fell into this behavior pattern (that may have well started in his youth) where maybe love was conditional and affection withheld. Just an idea but that's how my problems started.

I struggled with this myself many years ago. I grew up in a rather cold home. When I looked back on my past relationships I noticed that I had a tendency toward creating unnecessary drama because I desperately needed to be reassured of my partner's love for me constantly. I subconsciously figured out that if I stirred the pot, got him riled up, it would inevitably end up with him giving me that reassurance both verbally and physically which I so desperately craved. I was needy and clingy. I didn't want to lose him. I didn't want him to leave me. Hence the fear of abandonment. Fortunately, for myself and everyone in my life, I faced my demons. It took years but I made it out alive.

I wish I could tell you that there are magic words to be spoken making everything all better with him. I only know that from my experience with this ailment is that it is going to take time, patience, listening, understanding, and most importantly, his willingness to work through it. He has to make the choice to recognize it and see himself for who he is. It also depends on your standing with him as well. Do you think you possess the emotional threshold to deal with someone in this condition? I was in the middle of one when I decided to work on me. It took its toll on that relationship and it ended. I made the (wise) choice to be alone for a long while afterward and that's what really did it for me in the end.

I hope this helps in some way. I don't mean to assume that he is even suffering from this affliction but his actions sound just like the tactics I used and my issue has been brought to light. Also, say he does have it, and say you stick it out with him even just as friends, his problem will probably never fully disappear. Mine hasn't. Meaning, events can still trigger those raw emotions for me. It's just that I can easily work them out in my head now and bring myself to reason.




Yes, I agree with what you say.
He has a Moon in Capricorn to make matters worse.
he needs to be reassured all the time and creates unnecessary situations and drama in order for me to reassure him. I have
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Yes, I agree with what you say.
He has a Moon in Capricorn to make matters worse.
he needs to be reassured all the time and creates unnecessary situations and drama in order for me to reassure him. I have discovered that pattern.
Not only the threating of breaking up, but other little things.
He has trust issues too.

The good thing is that I dont take it personally anymore. I suffered in the first "threat", but then understood his motifs and later on he himself was open enough to talk about it.

What I have noticed is that he is expecting the worst. Whenever there is a situation, a little one, he tends to be very pessimistic, for example, if I dont respond a text message, he will not think that I am busy or working, but that I didnt WANT to respond it immediately.
He takes things personally.

I am more patient and undestanding and sweet, and I accept him as he is, and I listen to him and try to help him see what is going on.
I know Iwill need to have tons of patience with him and I am willing to do that, because I lovehim and I have a good feeling about is.
But it does get difficult, because he can ruin good moments with so little.

I hope he can understand his mechanisms and slowly trust and open up, and see that I dont want to hurt him or abandon him, as he expects will happen no matter what, but I will stick around...

Time will tell, and Iwill do my best 🙂
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I would say your Cancer doesn't have the balls to cut you off cold turkey so he's trying to make you break up with him.

Well, at the moment I thought so (this happened more than a month ago) but when I reassured him that I wanted to bewith him and made clear that it was not indifferent to me whether be continued or not, I saw major changes, including the fact he took me two weeks later to meet his mother and introduced me to his family as his girlfriend. So I guess it wasnt connected to his lack of balls to break up..more with the insecurity stuff....


@CLAIRE yeah have been reading about Cappy moon, and it does make the person more robotic, or insensitive, but as he is a Cancer Sun that seems to compensate though it is a struggle cos they are opposites...unemotional Cappy moon vs emotional Sun...I know Cappy Moons have emotional issues, they dont think they deserved to be loved...they rationalize feelings..but the Cancer sun is there flooding all....
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Posted by CancVenusGem
hehe..Yes we do that..We threaten people, but the only thing we want is attention. He wants your attention. He wants you to fight for him. Maybe you are not showing him enough affection, maybe he is unsure about how you feel for him. He likes you or else he wouldnt want you to fight for him 🙂



I thought so! attention and drama!!!
Hey you are a guy or a girl??
Nice to mmeet you and thanks for the opinion!