Do you see any good in this guy??

UGH!

Moon Aquarius 18.54
Mercury Aquarius 9.21
Venus Aquarius 10.35

SMH Good luck with this one...They tend to be complete commitmentphobes to the bone

But maybe someone else can give you more insight about how his other signs can balance out some of that air in his chart.

He might be a good guy but I would be wary of dating him with all that Aqua in key placements. I tried dating a cap with an aqua venus and that was a hot mess. I did date a Taurus with an aqua moon and commitment-phobe was an understatement. He was open about it, never led me on, but he can't keep it in his pants to save his life.

I'm not a huge fan of aqua placements unless it's the sun. In my experience, when it's just the sun sign, the other major placements take more of an active role of shaping the personality.

Posted by janettam
question sun in aquarius and venus in capricorn is that a bad placement?

I hope it's not your placement, but for an Aquarius, I really prefer if their Venus is in Aquarius - then you get a magical Aquarius with a heart for the world. I know an Aqua/Aqua venus and she is one of my favorite people in the world. A Capricorn venus is a bit less flattering because the person will be more focused on control and selfish reasons - their way or no way.

Posted by cupcakemm
In the future, I will need more time from him and more of a feeling that I am special. Out of the friend zone I guess. I am not a needy person and need my space too so I think we are a good match in that respect. I don't care to be showered with gifts and affection. Caring actions and a loving look work best for me. Here's my stuff:
Sun Virgo 8.18
Moon Gemini 25.42
Mercury Virgo 11.20 R
Venus Cancer 22.29
Mars Cancer 20.54
Jupiter Taurus 25.48
Saturn Pisces 1.09 R
Uranus Virgo 10.19
Neptune Scorpio 15.24
Pluto Virgo 13.48
Lilith Sagittarius 25.36
Asc node Gemini 29.22

One of my friends has the same sun/moon. She is a beauty - creating her own special brand of perfection. I swear only virgoes can go this far for picture perfectness. She's about to be married this year. I'd post if I find out her husband-to-be's sun sign.

Posted by cupcakemm
In the future, I will need more time from him and more of a feeling that I am special. Out of the friend zone I guess. I am not a needy person and need my space too so I think we are a good match in that respect. I don't care to be showered with gifts and affection. Caring actions and a loving look work best for me. Here's my stuff:

LMAO! Sorry not laughing at you just some of the things you say tickle me...Feel special is something that can happen, out of the friend zone will most likely never ever occur, you will be busting a brain cell trying to figure out why this guy is so resistant to moving forward and that alone will make you feel needy and desperate inside...You may get caring actions but a loving look LMAO!! Oh gosh this is funny.

This guy could be your friend forever without ever placing a boundary or a name on to your relationship. I do wish you luck but if your smart you would out girl him, lean back so far so long that he has no choice but to move forward and if your wise you will always make sure your not giving him all of you before you get a commitment (if that's what you want) or you'll be stuck just like a large amount of females on DXP that deal with men with these placements.

I'm with Ameth...Run lol

I realize I sound like an asshole but I guess what I'm trying to say is your already setting yourself up to fail if you actually think a lot of your needs will be met b/c they most likely won't be.

Friendship is more important than an actual relationship so you could stay in the friend zone for years and no matter how intimate and close you get he will most likely not budge out of that comfort zone so it's just better to chunk out all your expectations and needs and see what's there for you which can give you a broader idea of what your dealing with.

suggestion...accept him as he is now, don't expect him to be different than he is today b/c most likely what you see now is what your going to get down the road. You will and can form a very strong emotional bond with this man but the downside is that he won't be the catalyst for changing the state of your relationship/friendship, he could easily sustain an intimate emotional bond and still get on with his life without you in it, it's just something a lot of women are not prepared for.

typo he won't....meant to say it won't be the catalyst

cupecake you may not find any men with that placement hear, none that I'm aware of, I know there are a few cap men lurking around in the background but they hardly ever post but don't give up, keep searching other horoscope/astrology sites for men with those placements that may be able to shed some insight, good luck.

What makes this placement run, you bringing up the discussion of commitment or implying that he should commit after so many months/years. If you can steer clear of talk about commitment it will make him feel comfortable but probably grate on your nerves so just make sure you are completely honest with yourself about what you need from a man at this point in your life, if you really need more then don't lie to yourself or to him to sustain a connection with a man, consider keeping your options open while you consider dating him.

You may be able to back door him subtly into a real relationship but it takes a certain kind of patient energy and knowledge to do that.

Posted by amethyst2002
Here we go with the "waiting," bit. *sigh*

LOL yep another one that will *wait* I don't get these females that behave this way *sigh* she's been warned.

His placements are crap when it comes to relationships and although she will have a great time with him connecting as friend during the honeymoon phase it's all a farce because the moment her girl mind kicks in and says hey I been with this guy so many months/years why isn't he moving and pushing for more and she feels discontent b/c of it and pushes him subtly for more it's going to go downhill rapidly, most likely after the first year of dating, those placements demand to be free.

*shrugs*

I wish women could succeed with those placements but the emotional graveyard is full of women that get nowhere with men with those particular placements. He has so much air in his chart it's ridiculous! LOL

Yeah we all have heard that before cupecake, nothing new to us LOL he will inevitably hit a major brick wall and won't budge and no amount of patience on your part will alleviate the pressure he feels from being too connected and close with you, those cancer placements will sneak up and you'll turn needy soon enough and feel very hurt over his cold behavior, never fails.

Do what you gotta do, experience is the best communicator and teacher. We have a few women that are still in deep denial but unfortunately had to move on from the relationship but they still lament over it. Sad actually but hey tis love and life.

BelovedAssata just broke it all the way D.O.W.N lol

love it

Being a cusp Aqua/Cap I have to admit your right about the loner part, it's easy to assume that the introvert is helpless or a loner or someone that's socially inadequate but sometimes it could be further from the truth. I'm an introvert but I shine in a crowd, no one would ever think I was an introvert at heart because I'm completely open and vulnerable around others but a bit aloof as well. I have a bit of fire in my chart so I turn it on and off when I choose to.

It does seem like she feel she's going to add significant value to his social life because he seems lacking in some way or another (not sure if she meant it that way) I can almost bet that he has more of a life than she may realize/recognize and he's happy with his life just the way it is and it can be a shock to the system when he prefer to have his life over her.

I tore you a new ass over the same dumb ass behavior Elle so what's your point, you know the drill on this sign so don't even try to play devil's advocate b/c you don't give a fuck about the girl lol

Posted by ellessque

Posted by tiki33
I tore you a new ass over the same dumb ass behavior Elle so what's your point, you know the drill on this sign so don't even try to play devil's advocate b/c you don't give a fuck about the girl lol

i had a story.

you made hers up.

get over yourself.

not all caps are evil. not all aqua in venus are evil.

save your ass licking for when she has a story.

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I haven't made up her story, because it's already make believe, "PRETEND" just like yours lol, but in her case she hasn't developed a story yet, you on the other hand still in denial over his string pulling manipulation towards you, your words not mine and this isn't about evil, she's going to learn on her own just like you are (still learning and holding on and lamenting).

I couldn't lick ass even if I tried but you on the other hand is licking and lapping in this thread as usual, we all know your persona here and you could give 2 shits about her story, it's all about you as usual.

Posted by BelovedAssata

Posted by ellessque


how about offering her suggestions on how it may work instead of dooming it to the depths of hell before "hello".

*smh*

Do I really HAVE to go through the thread about the good suggestions people's made about making her relationship work for her?

1) Accept the guy for who he is...
2) Live this relationship in the moment.
3) Don't try to smother him or bring up the aspect of commitment too early or at all if you don't think it's going as 'fast' as you want.
4) if you think 'waiting' will make it better, it wont.

What did she say she'll do..
1) I want to fix him..I've been working on his people skills..because I am just the bomb at that.
2) I want this relationship to be at this way at this certain point.(i'm not needy).and I want these needs to be met, so that's what I'll be going for.(i am not needy)
3) yah, those aquarius placements? Not working, he acts more like a capricorn anyway, so i'm going to just ignore that little fact.

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That's pretty much what we all have said Beloved but this isn't about her, it's about Elle, everything is about her and shitty nonexistent half ass situation with her cap who happens to have one of the same placement as this guy, she cannot help but be defensive b/c she's still HOOKED.

Posted by ellessque
how do you figure it's about me?

thanks for the attention though. appreciate it.

i just see everyone sending this in another direction and making it up as you go.

that's all, pretty simple stuff *shrugs*

You love the attention...I will throw you a bone every so often, it's fun lol

We can warn her and caution her and are you the caution police, must we hold back on our insights out of fear of stepping on toes *roll eyes*

I'm not going to generalize all virgo women and scorpio women but the unevolved ones are desperately blind emotionally about men, they typically never heed no matter who the source is even if he's the source.

The Cap may be history but you still lament, just read a thread were you were discussing him still so mentally your still stuck even if you wont' admit it, there remains denial surrounding the guy but I'm glad he's history PHEW.

I am who I am, you are who you are, call it what you want.

I was friends with a virgo for 10 years, she's never wrong even when everything is crumbling around her feet, that's why she's gone LOL

LOL@Ameth... I know right...

Elle why don't you give her some constructive criticism because you know all too well the pitfalls b/c you been down a similar path and really it's about her not us so let's stop biting at each other and shift the focus back on her or do you even care about her situation?

Posted by Ruby01
GOSH!! All the negativity. Isn't Tiki supposed to be married/getting married or something?, such a ray of sunshine! Why do you still have time to come on here and chair your "cap men are evil/hate virgo women/hate scorp women" board along with your minions? Wow!

Oh, and you are so predictable, i know you will immediately attack me also like you are attacking Elle....so just so you know, i will not be responding. I was bored for a minute, but i'm good now. Quite good. Moving on.

LMAO! Is this a dummy account poser...I have no idea who you are

*throws hands up*

And I'm the one with minions? Last I checked I fight my own battles

(my ego) damn damn damn wish someone would have my back and attack my adversaries for me like Elle LMAO

Why do you want to help him in his business? What are you expecting to get out of helping him? You already have an issue with his emotional capacity per your words " Just wish he would warm up a bit more." This is only the beginning were you find that your going to be wishing he was a bit more of this or that, this is why I and Beloved were informing you to accept him as he is and your already having a mini internal struggle with that, it will get worse as you get more involved emotionally.

I would suggest you do a bit of self reflecting as much as possible, when you feel you need him to BE a certain way then ask yourself why. Do you need him to be a warmer is it because you feel a certain lack in your own emotional life so you hope having him in your life will fill a void? Because he won't fill voids, men are not put on earth to be void fillers.

He really doesn't need your help, he's completely capable of dealing with his business on his own I'm sure, if he started it on his own then he can manage through his difficulties so I'm wondering what's your motivation is for inserting yourself into his life by attempting to help him? Can't you just date him without helping him and needing him to be warmer. What about your own life? Don't you have enough going on in your own life?

Your wish can turn to needy so put it in check.

If anybody can bring those heavy cancer emotions out it will be this guy, I dunno know what it is but they can bring out the most beautiful and the most hidden dark feelings out of a woman.