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Posted by Chelsey07Okay, that's good.
@HappyCapper Yes, it was my first letter.

Posted by Chelsey07Oh, I believe you meant it, I was just trying to tell you how I, as a cap, would have reacted to the letter, so that you know what you might be in for in a discussion with her about this when you are next in contact with her. I did see your comment about you're being terrible at making promises, but in her shoes I would have read it as blah blah blah, those are words, I want to see action. Again, I do understand that you are sincere - I'm trying to view this as I would have in her position...which is without your explanations in this thread.
As for that "again", it wasn't for anything of this proportion. I said something about improving our relationship and she flipped out. We worked that situation out and she admitted that she was wrong, so we're through with that.
And once again, those are A LOT of promises and they have a lot of significance because not only were those things she complained about while we were together, my family and friends have also complained about the same things. I was worried about her thinking I'm BS' ing as well, but I meant every word in my apology. And if you read my letter, you'd see that I wrote that I'm terrible at making promises because I am, but I when I really want something or someone, I try my hardest with my promises. This is the first time that I've made a promise to her and of course I'm hurt about ending us in a letter and ending us in general.
Once again, I'm not blaming my sign for what I did. I take full responsibility for my actions. " I'm a Sagittarius, so foot in mouth disease has hit me pretty hard, but by no means am I using that as an excuse for what I said to her. "
Thanks again 🙂

Posted by HappyCapperI should be more detailed. I had no other way of ending things because we were long distance and I definitely didn't want to do it over text. How rude would that be? Thanks again! 🙂Posted by Chelsey07Oh, I believe you meant it, I was just trying to tell you how I, as a cap, would have reacted to the letter, so that you know what you might be in for in a discussion with her about this when you are next in contact with her. I did see your comment about you're being terrible at making promises, but in her shoes I would have read it as blah blah blah, those are words, I want to see action. Again, I do understand that you are sincere - I'm trying to view this as I would have in her position...which is without your explanations in this thread.
As for that "again", it wasn't for anything of this proportion. I said something about improving our relationship and she flipped out. We worked that situation out and she admitted that she was wrong, so we're through with that.
And once again, those are A LOT of promises and they have a lot of significance because not only were those things she complained about while we were together, my family and friends have also complained about the same things. I was worried about her thinking I'm BS' ing as well, but I meant every word in my apology. And if you read my letter, you'd see that I wrote that I'm terrible at making promises because I am, but I when I really want something or someone, I try my hardest with my promises. This is the first time that I've made a promise to her and of course I'm hurt about ending us in a letter and ending us in general.
Once again, I'm not blaming my sign for what I did. I take full responsibility for my actions. " I'm a Sagittarius, so foot in mouth disease has hit me pretty hard, but by no means am I using that as an excuse for what I said to her. "
Thanks again 🙂
What I did not get before was that you ended things in a letter. Must agree that that would have pissed me off to no end. Hmm. Hope it's repairable in spite of this.
I do understand that you're not blaming your sign and that you are willing to take full blame - that was just my very unsuccessful way of telling you that I kind of see where you're coming from.
I truly wish you the best of luck! 🙂click to expand
Posted by Chelsey07Telephone...?Posted by HappyCapperI should be more detailed. I had no other way of ending things because we were long distance and I definitely didn't want to do it over text. How rude would that be? Thanks again! 🙂Posted by Chelsey07Oh, I believe you meant it, I was just trying to tell you how I, as a cap, would have reacted to the letter, so that you know what you might be in for in a discussion with her about this when you are next in contact with her. I did see your comment about you're being terrible at making promises, but in her shoes I would have read it as blah blah blah, those are words, I want to see action. Again, I do understand that you are sincere - I'm trying to view this as I would have in her position...which is without your explanations in this thread.
As for that "again", it wasn't for anything of this proportion. I said something about improving our relationship and she flipped out. We worked that situation out and she admitted that she was wrong, so we're through with that.
And once again, those are A LOT of promises and they have a lot of significance because not only were those things she complained about while we were together, my family and friends have also complained about the same things. I was worried about her thinking I'm BS' ing as well, but I meant every word in my apology. And if you read my letter, you'd see that I wrote that I'm terrible at making promises because I am, but I when I really want something or someone, I try my hardest with my promises. This is the first time that I've made a promise to her and of course I'm hurt about ending us in a letter and ending us in general.
Once again, I'm not blaming my sign for what I did. I take full responsibility for my actions. " I'm a Sagittarius, so foot in mouth disease has hit me pretty hard, but by no means am I using that as an excuse for what I said to her. "
Thanks again 🙂
What I did not get before was that you ended things in a letter. Must agree that that would have pissed me off to no end. Hmm. Hope it's repairable in spite of this.
I do understand that you're not blaming your sign and that you are willing to take full blame - that was just my very unsuccessful way of telling you that I kind of see where you're coming from.
I truly wish you the best of luck! 🙂click to expand

Posted by Arielle83Hey, no need to bash me love. I already feel bad for my actions alright? If you read my post, I explained that we were long distance therefore communication is VERY important. It's all we had until we got together face-to-face. But thanks for your input anyway!
You don't have staying power when you don't get attention so you hurt the person and reject them so they feel as pathetic as you.
Then you want them back when you're fucked up actions don't go you're way.
GROW UP.

Posted by HappyCapperGood point! I feel like a complete jack a** 😢
...as in calling her.

Posted by Arielle83I am young. I know that I still have a lot of growing and learning to do. And you're absolutely right, I don't deserve her. I get it, I'm a jack ass. 😢Posted by Chelsey07Yet that's exactly what your actions were so how am I bashing you when those were the actions you chose to take. You have an excuse though, long distance, so that makes it okay to put someone far away from you in a shitty situation and leave their mind flooded with uncertainty.Posted by Arielle83Hey, no need to bash me love. I already feel bad for my actions alright? If you read my post, I explained that we were long distance therefore communication is VERY important. It's all we had until we got together face-to-face. But thanks for your input anyway!
You don't have staying power when you don't get attention so you hurt the person and reject them so they feel as pathetic as you.
Then you want them back when you're fucked up actions don't go you're way.
GROW UP.
Then you come out with the vacant future promises.
You must be young is all I'm saying because your ego needs attention and your distance makes you insecure.
You still don't have staying power, because you've proved when you don't get your needs met you are an emotional vampire and leave your love object with a broken heart.
You don't deserve them.click to expand

Posted by elllesqueThat's true. If I lost her, best believe I know that it's my fault.
she also conceded very quickly......consider the fact that you probably did her a favour.....as in she didn't have to do it herself.
if she cared....she may not have let you go so easily and tried to talk it out.

Posted by elllesqueI'm going to try. Those promises are significant to me because not only were those things she complained about in our relationship, I've also had family and friends to complain about those things as well.
you know you can't keep those promises.
I'm not being negative. nobody can realistically keep those promises all the time.
you are setting yourself up to fail because she WILL hold you to them.


Posted by piscesmoon2I always like to hope, but thanks for your insight!
With out even reading all this crap... It is Capricorn retro... hello... it starts on the 5 of Jane... So this is perfect timing for you to be thinking like this... lol
And just to be honest even if you win her back... at the end of the year there is another one... It is obvious it is not or should not work out between you two. Do yourself and her self a favor... consider what the over all karmatic flow needs, which is undoubtably for you not to be together. If you really care you would let it go.
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Posted by truecap@TrueCap I truly appreciate your advice. Your words have been really comforting to me 🙂
Thats a lot of promises you made. Hope you can stick to it. If you fail to follow through on anything you wrote in that letter, she will be done for good. Caps say what they mean and mean what they say and we expect you to do the same.
I agree with HappyCapper. Caps are in it for the long haul regardless of what we do and those who quit easily aren't high on our respect list.
All that said, give her time. Time to process. Time to think. Time to decide if she wants to try again. Give it a week and if you haven't heard from her, then reach out in a friendly way.

Posted by champrangerThanks love! 🙂 Fingers crossed guys!Posted by Chelsey07Good luck! 🙂
It most definitely will make a difference. I'm working on it as we speak. I appreciate the help and advice from everyone! 🙂click to expand


Posted by AndalusiaMy apology was my own words and from my heart love. I'm insulted.
From now on, if I ever get a heartfelt text/email/letter from a guy, I'm totally googling that shit verbatim to see if they've posted it on message forums.

Posted by Chelsey07I wasn't doubting the authenticity or implying you stole it.Posted by AndalusiaMy apology was my own words and from my heart love. I'm insulted.
From now on, if I ever get a heartfelt text/email/letter from a guy, I'm totally googling that shit verbatim to see if they've posted it on message forums.click to expand

Posted by AndalusiaWell, that's how I took it. Sorry.Posted by Chelsey07I wasn't doubting the authenticity or implying you stole it.Posted by AndalusiaMy apology was my own words and from my heart love. I'm insulted.
From now on, if I ever get a heartfelt text/email/letter from a guy, I'm totally googling that shit verbatim to see if they've posted it on message forums.click to expand

Posted by Chelsey07I took it as to make sure [he] didn't steal it from you. 😉Posted by AndalusiaWell, that's how I took it. Sorry.Posted by Chelsey07I wasn't doubting the authenticity or implying you stole it.Posted by AndalusiaMy apology was my own words and from my heart love. I'm insulted.
From now on, if I ever get a heartfelt text/email/letter from a guy, I'm totally googling that shit verbatim to see if they've posted it on message forums.click to expand

Posted by truecapAhhh okay. Thanks again! 🙂Posted by Chelsey07I took it as to make sure [he] didn't steal it from you. 😉Posted by AndalusiaWell, that's how I took it. Sorry.Posted by Chelsey07I wasn't doubting the authenticity or implying you stole it.Posted by AndalusiaMy apology was my own words and from my heart love. I'm insulted.
From now on, if I ever get a heartfelt text/email/letter from a guy, I'm totally googling that shit verbatim to see if they've posted it on message forums.click to expand


Posted by elllesqueGreat idea! I'll go check out their board soon. I guess I was trying to change myself for her. It just cut me to my core when she told me I was selfish and when I talked to my family and friends about the "selfish" remark, they seemed to agree. It's shocking because I've never seen myself as a selfish person and it's not necessarily something that I want to embrace. I want to be known as a giving and free-hearted person...not selfish. I definitely need to reevaluate the entire situation. Since we've been broken up, I've been doing a lot of thinking and this is making me think even more.Posted by AndalusiaThis. You said it a lot better than I was trying to.
why on earth would you promise to change your needs?
Sag, you might want to spend some time on the Sag board. The behaviour of yours that you describe and "family and friends" say you need to "work" on is the very essence of "sag" and you should embrace that instead of trying to change that for a partner who could quite possibly have zero tolerance for it, making you constantly feel less than or a failure.click to expand

Posted by elllesqueI sense this is a pattern between them though. Not just an isolated incident. I could be wrong though.
A lot of times you have to wade through other people's opinions of you because they can simply be projections of themselves.
The key is to step back and look at those situations objectively. That will bring self awareness to you and help you separate what is your 'stuff' and what is really theirs. Don't automatically take on all the ownership or people will run all over you.
We all have a level of selfishness and I personally don't see issue with that.
You felt unloved....you spoke up about it....and then it was twisted around to deflect the issue....and you defended yourself the only way you knew how.
A healthy minded partner would have been able to see what the root of the problem was....or at least made an attempt to meet you half way and talk it out.

Posted by elllesqueGod, it's like you're reading my mind. I needed this. Thank you.
A lot of times you have to wade through other people's opinions of you because they can simply be projections of themselves.
The key is to step back and look at those situations objectively. That will bring self awareness to you and help you separate what is your 'stuff' and what is really theirs. Don't automatically take on all the ownership or people will run all over you.
We all have a level of selfishness and I personally don't see issue with that.
You felt unloved....you spoke up about it....and then it was twisted around to deflect the issue....and you defended yourself the only way you knew how.
A healthy minded partner would have been able to see what the root of the problem was....or at least made an attempt to meet you half way and talk it out.


Posted by elllesqueYes, we only live 3 hours away from each other and we would be attending the same school. I knew once we could physically see each other that things would get better. I'd be less impatient and we would be fine. At least I thought.
OP, if she had that much on her plate, you were probably slipping as a priority.
When that happens, unfortunatley, you have to step back and do you.
It's a leap of faith, really....because you don't know where she will be when all of those things come to fruition. She may have eventually showed you the exit anyway.
With all this going on, did she make any verbal indication that you would fit in there somewhere eventually....physically....not just long distance?

Posted by elllesqueOh @elllesque and @Andalusia, you're both reading my mind. I gave so much of myself for her to the point that I forgot to care about myself. The things I said to her weren't mean or nasty. I calmly explained that with us being long distance, communication is super important because that's all we have until we can be together. The distance was only temporary, so I was hoping that she could meet me halfway. (This comment is for @elllesque)
Yes, breaking up in a huff and trying to make up a few days later is childish...we just don't know why she was pushed to this point. Obviously there had to have been a series of issues that pushed her to that level of "Look at me, I am hurting! Hear me!".
I am not saying that is okay. There are more mature ways of handing this....however, we still don't know if other ways were approached and the OP was just called "selfish" or other words when trying to express herself
I am saying the cap.....instead of just saying..."okay, have a nice life!".....if the sag was of any real value in her life....could have put her ego aside and said...."Hey, let's talk about where these feelings are coming from maybe we can figure this out together."
It "is" a relationship and sometimes there are difficult parts that need to be gotten through. However, both people have to put equal value and seriousness on it to make it through. They both have to give some fucks...lol.

Posted by elllesqueShe promised date nights, to make time for me once we were together, and that things would better between us once we were actually together.Posted by Chelsey07Okay, those were 'your' plans....what promises did she make to you?Posted by elllesqueYes, we only live 3 hours away from each other and we would be attending the same school. I knew once we could physically see each other that things would get better. I'd be less impatient and we would be fine. At least I thought.
OP, if she had that much on her plate, you were probably slipping as a priority.
When that happens, unfortunatley, you have to step back and do you.
It's a leap of faith, really....because you don't know where she will be when all of those things come to fruition. She may have eventually showed you the exit anyway.
With all this going on, did she make any verbal indication that you would fit in there somewhere eventually....physically....not just long distance?
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Posted by elllesqueI don't want to diminish my value. So I should accept my Sagittarius ways huh 😉?
She needs a @DMV bootcamp. 😛
I hate seeing sags diminishing their beautiful value in this world. 🙂

Posted by elllesqueYes, we met once for my birthday that had just passed. She asked me what I wanted for my birthday and I told her I wasn't expecting a present, but I'd love it if she came to see me for my birthday...so she made the 3 hour trip to see me and we spent the entire day together. Everything was great. We sat and talked (but mostly smiled and I cried a little...I was so happy to see her) about our lives and our relationship and how we would keep things fresh, etc.
Did you ever meet her face to face?

Posted by elllesqueOh I felt it! When we first began dating, there were good morning texts, calls during her and my lunch breaks, late night conversations that would go on for hours, and skype "dates" until 4 and 5 AM. It was great. She noticed when something was wrong with me or if something rubbed me the wrong way. She was so reassuring. It seems like as soon as I brought up something that I felt like could be improved between us, she changed like the wind. She;s a great girl, but I'm thinking that she's so used to calling the shots in the relationship that she didn't know how to handle me bringing up a problem. I bruised her ego.
I don't want to project too much of my own experience on you...but I can say from personal experience...
When a cap cares, you can feel it over every inch of your body.....and when they stop caring.....you can feel that just as strongly.
When they care, they make time every day....even if they just have a few minutes of free time.
When they care, they are very aware of your feelings and handle them with kid gloves.
When they don't care anymore...and they can stop quite abruptly for a variety of reasons....
You almost instantly realise you are not a priority anymore. The communication gets choppy. They become a lot less patient and a lot more silent.
They will start pulling away, but they will not likely break up with you....they will display behaviour that puts you in a position to break up and be the 'bad guy'.
Then they will pull the 'friend' card, which makes it confusing because you broke up with them and they appear so apathetic and uncaring.....a total mindfuck, for sure.
More than likely, she was probably relieved.

Posted by elllesqueThe choppy communication has nothing to do with when we met face to face. The choppy communication came from something I said and it's like we went downhill from there.Posted by Chelsey07Did this start happening, the choppy communication, after you met face to face....or before?Posted by elllesqueYes, we met once for my birthday that had just passed. She asked me what I wanted for my birthday and I told her I wasn't expecting a present, but I'd love it if she came to see me for my birthday...so she made the 3 hour trip to see me and we spent the entire day together. Everything was great. We sat and talked (but mostly smiled and I cried a little...I was so happy to see her) about our lives and our relationship and how we would keep things fresh, etc.
Did you ever meet her face to face?click to expand

Posted by elllesqueIt is indeed a mystery. I'm not gonna lie, I'm surprised at myself for even going through all of this with and for her. I've never done this for any of my ex girlfriends and here I am getting all bent out of shape about her. Woo-hoo....silent treatment...yay.
...and why they do this is a mystery. Everyone of them have a different chart and are more than 'capricorn' which creates different triggers.
They have to tell you the 'why' part.
All I can do is describe what it looks and feels from those standing on the outside looking 'in' and going through the experience as a not-a-cap.

Posted by elllesqueBINGO my dear! I forgot that we're both dominant and want control...not abusive control, but we want to call the shots and have someone follow our lead. Lord, I'm gonna have me a time lolPosted by Chelsey07That's fair. It appears she wanted to control and compartmentalise the relationship and you were stepping out of line. Does sound like a bruised ego.Posted by elllesqueThe choppy communication has nothing to do with when we met face to face. The choppy communication came from something I said and it's like we went downhill from there.Posted by Chelsey07Did this start happening, the choppy communication, after you met face to face....or before?Posted by elllesqueYes, we met once for my birthday that had just passed. She asked me what I wanted for my birthday and I told her I wasn't expecting a present, but I'd love it if she came to see me for my birthday...so she made the 3 hour trip to see me and we spent the entire day together. Everything was great. We sat and talked (but mostly smiled and I cried a little...I was so happy to see her) about our lives and our relationship and how we would keep things fresh, etc.
Did you ever meet her face to face?click to expand

Posted by elllesqueLol not puking now. I'm taking this breakup terribly though. I can't eat, I can't sleep, and I haven't stopped thinking about her.Posted by Chelsey07Lol....I know the feeling. I have been to that amusement park. Puked a few times after the roller coaster ride. 😛Posted by elllesqueIt is indeed a mystery. I'm not gonna lie, I'm surprised at myself for even going through all of this with and for her. I've never done this for any of my ex girlfriends and here I am getting all bent out of shape about her. Woo-hoo....silent treatment...yay.
...and why they do this is a mystery. Everyone of them have a different chart and are more than 'capricorn' which creates different triggers.
They have to tell you the 'why' part.
All I can do is describe what it looks and feels from those standing on the outside looking 'in' and going through the experience as a not-a-cap.click to expand



Posted by Leyla00I hope...maybe.
Just give her time im sure shell contact you when she is ready.

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A few days later, I poured my soul into an apology letter that I had written for her. After she read it, all she said was that she was speechless and that she would talk to me later about the situation, but it's been 3 days. Is that her way of avoiding the conversation or is she just deep in thought about what I wrote?
When she said she was speechless, do you think she meant it in a good way or a bad way? Also, I learned that when Capricorns say that they are "done" with you, it means that you no longer exist to them, then why would she get in contact with me?
If anyone wants to know what I put in my apology, I can add it to the post. Any advice would be great.