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Natal Saturn
Saturn in the 4th House
You worry when you are at home, in private. You may feel, wrongly usually, that your family does not love you, that they do not understand you, that you are lonely, and that your father is too strict.
You are often attached to the past and to painful souvenirs. Your challenge is to understand that the present can become light and pleasant and that the burden of your sufferings comes from your own doubts and not from your family environment. If you succeed in doing so, you will win on all counts since, at the end of the day, you become responsible, stable and... happy at home!
Saturn in Aquarius
Solemnity and concentration are at the service of your projects and your altruistic ideals. To the detriment of your own individuality, you become demanding with time, and you learn to better define the human values that are really important to you. Struggling in order to better assert your individual qualities can be highly profitable.
Source: http://www.astrotheme.com/files/saturn_your_part_of_seriousness.php
Saturn 4th house
This placement makes for a most unhappy childhood. The mother can be distant, emotionally unavailable, and even abusive and cold. In some cases, the mother is altogether absent from the child's life. Most often, those with a fourth house Saturn feel unloved; their emotional needs were not met as children. In some cases, there can be major responsibilities involving the family that prevent those with this placement from having lives of their own. Issues in the life revolve around unpleasant past experiences such as emotional trauma, abuse, emotional deprivation, and severe family problems. Saturn in the fourth house is often seen in the charts of orphans.
Source: http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/SATURN.html
^ For this site specifically, though the father is typically described on other sites, my mother was quite "busy" when I was little. I loved being around my parents, but sometimes they were just "emotionally distant". I remember my mother was washing the dishes once and I kept asking if I could help her, and eventually she snapped and said "why do you always have to stick to me like glue? go by your father", and I started crying and went by my father and hugged him. He then went and told her that she should enjoy having me around, because I may not always want to be around them if she acts like that. They argued for awhile. Just thinking about it kind of makes me sad again. I remember shed always get annoyed if I was around her while she was studying and would tell me to go do something else. I would write "A+" on her papers, and she would get angry with me. Kind of sad. We have a decent relationship now. A lot better. She was just stressed out going to college and working full time.
You worry when you are at home, in private. You may feel, wrongly usually, that your family does not love you, that they do not understand you, that you are lonely, and that your father is too strict.
You are often attached to the past and to painful souvenirs. Your challenge is to understand that the present can become light and pleasant and that the burden of your sufferings comes from your own doubts and not from your family environment. If you succeed in doing so, you will win on all counts since, at the end of the day, you become responsible, stable and... happy at home!
Saturn in Aquarius
Solemnity and concentration are at the service of your projects and your altruistic ideals. To the detriment of your own individuality, you become demanding with time, and you learn to better define the human values that are really important to you. Struggling in order to better assert your individual qualities can be highly profitable.
Source: http://www.astrotheme.com/files/saturn_your_part_of_seriousness.php
Saturn 4th house
This placement makes for a most unhappy childhood. The mother can be distant, emotionally unavailable, and even abusive and cold. In some cases, the mother is altogether absent from the child's life. Most often, those with a fourth house Saturn feel unloved; their emotional needs were not met as children. In some cases, there can be major responsibilities involving the family that prevent those with this placement from having lives of their own. Issues in the life revolve around unpleasant past experiences such as emotional trauma, abuse, emotional deprivation, and severe family problems. Saturn in the fourth house is often seen in the charts of orphans.
Source: http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/SATURN.html
^ For this site specifically, though the father is typically described on other sites, my mother was quite "busy" when I was little. I loved being around my parents, but sometimes they were just "emotionally distant". I remember my mother was washing the dishes once and I kept asking if I could help her, and eventually she snapped and said "why do you always have to stick to me like glue? go by your father", and I started crying and went by my father and hugged him. He then went and told her that she should enjoy having me around, because I may not always want to be around them if she acts like that. They argued for awhile. Just thinking about it kind of makes me sad again. I remember shed always get annoyed if I was around her while she was studying and would tell me to go do something else. I would write "A+" on her papers, and she would get angry with me. Kind of sad. We have a decent relationship now. A lot better. She was just stressed out going to college and working full time.
I'm Saturn's bitch, lol. I have quite a few apects in my chart both positive and negative.
My Taurus Saturn is in my 3rd house.
Lots of issues with communication and learning.
It is one point of both of my grand trines. Aspects to Saturn:
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Saturn Opposition NeptuneÂ
Sun Square SaturnÂ
Mars Square SaturnÂ
Saturn Square AscendantÂ
Moon Trine SaturnÂ
Mercury Trine SaturnÂ
Saturn Trine PlutoÂ
My Taurus Saturn is in my 3rd house.
Lots of issues with communication and learning.
It is one point of both of my grand trines. Aspects to Saturn:
Â
Saturn Opposition NeptuneÂ
Sun Square SaturnÂ
Mars Square SaturnÂ
Saturn Square AscendantÂ
Moon Trine SaturnÂ
Mercury Trine SaturnÂ
Saturn Trine PlutoÂ
Saturn in Aquarius is dignified making one humanitarian, altruistic, socially conscientious, and concerned with group goals and responsibilities. The mind tends to be skeptical, argumentative, scientific, inventive, original, independent, and psychological. One's friendships are usually detached, serious, based on obligations, and often with older people.
Saturn in the fourth house is in detriment making the home environment more traditional or focused around the father. One tends to be conservative and controlled by discipline, responsibilities, tradition, or the past. Patriarchal feelings of authority may shape one's inner or outer environment.
Source: http://www.san.beck.org/Astro-Saturn.html#11
I would say this one is very, very accurate for me. Both descriptions. Recently, I've been mainly hanging out with the friends who are way older than me. A Leo who is 29, an Aquarius 25, another Aquarius 26, another Aquarius 27, a Libra 29, a Scorpio 32, a Taurus 24. I myself am 22 and just turned 22 this past November. Normally my friends were right at my age range. Recently my age range has been increasingly annoying. Ironically it's because they aren't serious or they act childish. A friend of mine has become increasingly clingy, almost to where it seems she's dependent on my text responses. If I don't respond she acts childish and sends angry/mean texts, and I get annoyed with the fact that I actually have to explain myself or my silences. If she keeps it up, eventually the tie will just be severed. She makes comments like "why don't you just go hang out with your new friends then" "you never respond to me so we might as well not be friends if you don't want to be". It is getting increasingly irritating as time progresses. At least my older friends can handle some distance, good lord. I like to be alone sometimes.
Saturn in the fourth house is in detriment making the home environment more traditional or focused around the father. One tends to be conservative and controlled by discipline, responsibilities, tradition, or the past. Patriarchal feelings of authority may shape one's inner or outer environment.
Source: http://www.san.beck.org/Astro-Saturn.html#11
I would say this one is very, very accurate for me. Both descriptions. Recently, I've been mainly hanging out with the friends who are way older than me. A Leo who is 29, an Aquarius 25, another Aquarius 26, another Aquarius 27, a Libra 29, a Scorpio 32, a Taurus 24. I myself am 22 and just turned 22 this past November. Normally my friends were right at my age range. Recently my age range has been increasingly annoying. Ironically it's because they aren't serious or they act childish. A friend of mine has become increasingly clingy, almost to where it seems she's dependent on my text responses. If I don't respond she acts childish and sends angry/mean texts, and I get annoyed with the fact that I actually have to explain myself or my silences. If she keeps it up, eventually the tie will just be severed. She makes comments like "why don't you just go hang out with your new friends then" "you never respond to me so we might as well not be friends if you don't want to be". It is getting increasingly irritating as time progresses. At least my older friends can handle some distance, good lord. I like to be alone sometimes.
Posted by sultrykittyWow!! ME TOO! LOL.
I'm Saturn's bitch, lol. I have quite a few apects in my chart both positive and negative.
My Taurus Saturn is in my 3rd house.
Lots of issues with communication and learning.
It is one point of both of my grand trines. Aspects to Saturn:
Â
Saturn Opposition NeptuneÂ
Sun Square SaturnÂ
Mars Square SaturnÂ
Saturn Square AscendantÂ
Moon Trine SaturnÂ
Mercury Trine SaturnÂ
Saturn Trine PlutoÂ
I have two of yours
Sun Square Saturn
Mars Square Saturn
Venus trine Saturn
Jupiter trine Saturn
Saturn square Pluto
Saturn trine Ascendant
For what it's worth it is also an exact conjunction with Pallas, the asteroid too.
At least I have the three trines (you have three trines too), but even the trine descriptions are kind of "serious" in their tone. They make me sound like a killjoy LOL. Saturn is my third dominant planet
Maybe my Saturn trine Asc is why I am not like a typical packed 1st houser. I remember us having that convo one day. @lisabethur8
Here is the description of that aspect. I sound so serious and boring. All of my aspects with Saturn probably made me more of a cautious person instead of an exciting one like the typical packed first houser with a "beacon of light" personality as they usually carry. I am more of the serious packed first houser. Weird what other combos can do to a person. I wish I was more confident and more like the typical first houser!!
Saturn trine Ascendant:
"You tend to be sober and serious when evaluating your course in life, and may feel the need to be patient or conservative when making plans for the future. You can work hard and with a steady pace to further your goals, and have more self-discipline. Your interactions with other people will also tend to be serious and you’ll shy away from frivolous conversations. You’re concerned with appropriate dress and behavior, and will seem more mature to other people. You may even prefer to be around older people now, as you appreciate the value of experience and the wisdom of age. This is a good time to work on your social skills and you may make important contacts with people who will support your efforts, especially those in positions of leadership or authority. You may consider relocating if you feel that you’ve outgrown your situation and would have better opportunities in a new place. You may also work out more or participate in sports or athletics to strengthen your physical body or increase your endurance."
Here is the description of that aspect. I sound so serious and boring. All of my aspects with Saturn probably made me more of a cautious person instead of an exciting one like the typical packed first houser with a "beacon of light" personality as they usually carry. I am more of the serious packed first houser. Weird what other combos can do to a person. I wish I was more confident and more like the typical first houser!!
Saturn trine Ascendant:
"You tend to be sober and serious when evaluating your course in life, and may feel the need to be patient or conservative when making plans for the future. You can work hard and with a steady pace to further your goals, and have more self-discipline. Your interactions with other people will also tend to be serious and you’ll shy away from frivolous conversations. You’re concerned with appropriate dress and behavior, and will seem more mature to other people. You may even prefer to be around older people now, as you appreciate the value of experience and the wisdom of age. This is a good time to work on your social skills and you may make important contacts with people who will support your efforts, especially those in positions of leadership or authority. You may consider relocating if you feel that you’ve outgrown your situation and would have better opportunities in a new place. You may also work out more or participate in sports or athletics to strengthen your physical body or increase your endurance."
Posted by KoniuchaI've noticed that with Saturn aspects too. They tend to be a little sad. I guess they help give us a grasp of who we are and how we need to develop. Mine definitely adds a lot of layers of both difficulties and good discernment. However, sometimes I still need to work on discerning things. Despite my Saturn trine Venus which makes me "cautious in love". My 7th house cusp on Aries makes me do the opposite.
Also Saturn opposite MC.
I need to look more into that, although I'm sure it will make me sad.
I am grateful and also annoyed with Saturn, but it definitely helps give me a lot of self-improvement areas. I have been focusing on them quite a bit. My Sun and Mars sq. Saturn gives me a very defensive personality. Sigh. My dad used to always comment on it, and I'd be like "IM NOT BEING DEFENSIVE" and stomp away. Oh the irony. I was a handful as a teenager. I can see my defensiveness now, and I've been working really hard to stop naturally defending myself when there is absolutely no reason to. It's almost like a natural reaction. No idea why. Someone can just make a comment, and in the past I would've reacted quite defensively, and they'd kind of be like "?"
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4th House in Aquarius
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Natal Saturn in the 4th House
With your natal Saturn in your 4th house, you may have a hard time expressing a mothering attitude. You don’t know how to nurture other people, most likely because you didn’t get that yourself growing up. Some of you may try to go to the extreme, and nurture too much to make up for it. You have to learn how to be encouraging and supportive of the people that you care about, and how to open up about your feelings. It doesn’t have to be something that you hate or that’s uncomfortable for you. Over time, you get used to it.
source: http://www.thedarkpixieastrology.com/the-4th-house.html