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I am feeling really awful.. I had high hopes to see him tomorrow..

I started a language course near his home (an hour away from mine) and i only go once a week. Last week he came to see me but only for a very short time cause he had family obligations that were all of a sudden.. I was understanding and thanked him for coming to see me eventhough his family wanted him to stay cause they had guests over.. So he told me next week we will have lunch together after my course...

Today I was so stressed at work and once I thought "oh well i'll see my love tomorrow and i cant wait.. " i had a big smile on my face .. then at night while we're talking, I noticed he did not mention anything about meeting up tomorrow like we agreed last week.. so i asked him "wont i see u tomorrow?".. he was like.. "no it will be hard" he has to visit a distant relative as his father asked him to.. and he is not sure when he will be done .. I was trying to stay calm and collected and wished his relative wellness.. then I told him "why didnt u tell me before?" he said "i only knew yesterday and i forgot to tell you" .. n he did not apologize 😢

Then I put the call on mute cause my scorpio moon got me bursting into tears n i didnt want him to hear me... then i think he hanged up...

I texted a while later "I didnt know you'd forget such thing" and told him to have a good sleep..

I am really angry at him 😢 .. and i feel he is being so fucking cold.. is this normal??
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I need to add that he was supposed to attend this course with me since he needed it too more than myself.. but then at last minute he told me he wont do it cause he will be joining the army soon anyway and will forget what he studied... I still didnt get angry and told him no worries.. plus i could have attended it near my home.. but i did jjoin the one near his home 😢 1. because its a better one 2. because i will get the chance to meet him since we rarely find time to meet up.. (max. 4 times a month)
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It shouldn't be this hard.


I've responded to your posts, before, and you get angry when I (or anyone else) mentions this.

Distant relatives to be visited.... busy schedule... parental obligations!

And now... joining the ARMY?

Really??


The list of excuses gets longer and more creative, every time-- when are you going to see

this, for yourself?


And yeah, you should be furious.


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Posted by Montgomery
It shouldn't be this hard.


I've responded to your posts, before, and you get angry when I (or anyone else) mentions this.

Distant relatives to be visited.... busy schedule... parental obligations!

And now... joining the ARMY?

Really??


The list of excuses gets longer and more creative, every time-- when are you going to see

this, for yourself?


And yeah, you should be furious.

the relatives part was not an excuse though.. his mom kept calling him while we were together but he just stayed with me .. the thing is we should have hanged out for like 3 hours n we only saw eachother for half of that time..

and the army thing is true but i never thought about it before.. but i was angry that he didnt mention it before .. he said he thought i knew..

ugh... maybe im just blind.. i cant help but feel mad to be honest 😢 ... excuses or not
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Half the time... it was an excuse.

Distant relatives... lie.

The army-- that's HUGE.

He thought he told you?

That's not good enough.


Take the proverbial bull by the horns and dump him... he deserves

it, and you deserve better.

Don't you have a Scorp moon?

Do some recon and find out what he's really doing.

Or just dump him-- it doesn't matter.

Not even trying to be mean... this just isn't right.

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Posted by cheekyfaerie
How long have you guys been a thing? He doesn't make you a priority. I say move on. You don't have to be THE priority, but you'll never get anywhere if you aren't A priority.
a year .. thing is he never did such thing.. i mean he would even take a day off from work to see me .. cause our work schedule clashes.. i am shocked that he didn not apologize about forgetting to tell me...

is our time together that insignificant?

he has been caring .. he calls me everyday. texts me once he wakes up n mid day at work n even later .. n he has been very understanding.. how do u think i could be "that"calm with him?? .. i am not a calm person when im bothered.. but i find myself mirroring his cool attitude.. but this time it really feels so wrong ...
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Posted by Montgomery
Half the time... it was an excuse.

Distant relatives... lie.

The army-- that's HUGE.

He thought he told you?

That's not good enough.


Take the proverbial bull by the horns and dump him... he deserves

it, and you deserve better.

Don't you have a Scorp moon?

Do some recon and find out what he's really doing.

Or just dump him-- it doesn't matter.

Not even trying to be mean... this just isn't right.
he did not tell me ... he thought i knew ... even worse eh!
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Posted by GreyWiz
kick him to the curb...............


you need better than that. unless he is genuine and there is other stuff bugging him.
I dont know how I got this patience ... when he told me about the army .. he said it was stressing him alot and then I could not get angry at him cause i know how much it sucks being in the army.. let alone for 3 whole years.. he was even trying to escape from it but he was feeling so stressed about it ..

How would i know hes being genuine?! .. I always thought he was being genuine.. I am starting to doubt how naive I am
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When i was dating that was the type of behavior that i would do- Bounce out, Make excuses, Cancel plans

At the time i refered to it as "Planting the seed"

Little things to get there subconscious working, This way at least a piece of them knew it was ending - with hopes that it wouldn't be drama filled when it did actually end.

Not to imply that this is what he is doing.

But- you know- something to consider

I'd just call him out him. Ask him what he wants. Only way to get really get your answer- Well that, or just wait.
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Posted by Skitty
When i was dating that was the type of behavior that i would do- Bounce out, Make excuses, Cancel plans

At the time i refered to it as "Planting the seed"

Little things to get there subconscious working, This way at least a piece of them knew it was ending - with hopes that it wouldn't be drama filled when it did actually end.

Not to imply that this is what he is doing.

But- you know- something to consider

I'd just call him out him. Ask him what he wants. Only way to get really get your answer- Well that, or just wait.
It appears to me this way too..

The thing is i confronted him before when he flaked out onsomething a month ago.. (a different situation though) n i asked him what he wants.. i was really sad and that night we made up and he called me like 30 times in the morning cause i didnt answer n he was worried as he said.. i was still sad.. told him it seems he doesnt love me the same way anymore. he told me "if i didnt love and care for you.. i wouldnt have called you so many times to check on you" he was at work when he called .. n i thought ok maybe he was genuine about it..

but now.. i dont understand..
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So- this behavior has been a topic for discussion in the past.

Clearly he knows it bothers you- Considering how you reacted the last time, why would he continue to do it?

A.) He could be intentionally doing it- looking to provoke an emotional response from you. Insecure people do this stuff all the time. It's how they find confirmation of others affections, without being direct. It's really just a call for your attentions, so they can feel needed and wanted.

I haven't seen any leos do that type of stuff- but then again- i don't know any with an Aqua moon

B.) Going back to seed planting! :p Granted mine never lasted over a month, but he could just be incredibly uncertain of what he actually wants.

What really sucks here, is that you love the guy.

I could see how cutting off all communication,with him, without full knowledge of what's going on- Would probley be VERY difficult for you.

If you can do it, and that's what feels right, Do it.

If you can't- Feel no shame in it. Whatever goes in the wash, eventually always comes out. You'll figure it out eventually.



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Posted by Skitty
So- this behavior has been a topic for discussion in the past.

Clearly he knows it bothers you- Considering how you reacted the last time, why would he continue to do it?

A.) He could be intentionally doing it- looking to provoke an emotional response from you. Insecure people do this stuff all the time. It's how they find confirmation of others affections, without being direct. It's really just a call for your attentions, so they can feel needed and wanted.
I see what you mean.. but it was a totally different situation.. too personal to mention it on here.. but i do felt him distancing himself that time...
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update: So he called me today and it turns out there were several misunderstandings..

1. I said something that sounded disrespectful to him last night and i apologized and told him that i take it back n did not mean it to sound like that.. last night he said theres no problem and he was just shocked i said that..

2. Afterwards i continued talking but he was quiet.. i thought he was just tired or sleepy.. and when i asked if im going to see him.. he said "that will be hard...blabla" (today he tells me it was his reaction to what i said last night) I told him but we talked about it and I apologized.. etc. But well this is why he did that to me :/

3. When I muted the call.. the call disconnected shortly after that.. n he thought i hanged up on him without saying anything.. (actually last night i thought he hanged up on me.. how ironic) I told him i didnt hang up and told him he knows why i muted (i used to mute when i cry) he asked me if i were crying.. i didnt respond but well its obvious..

I was so angry on the phone but let everything out n he did too.. then he said he's coming to me now where i am. I discouraged him n told him im leaving in a while anyway.. but he insisted to come see me. So i told him to do whatever he wants.

He came to me n we calmly talked about it.. He apologized to me and I told him not to do that to me ever again and if theres anything wrong he should just tell me and not only react to me cause this complicates things.. especially that the last month many misunderstandings rose between us.. he told me he's really sorry n would never want to upset me.. he was very calm, hugged me n kissed my hand.. and i felt he is telling the truth..

I told him about the army thing.. n he apologized for that too, said that its his mistake.. its not a small thing n he should have told me anyway even if its known.. told me this is depressing him and he was not trying to hide it from me

well thats all i guess ..
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Oh this guy is so full of shit. This is classic "not into you" bullshit. The fact that it continues to get worse is because he gets the vibe that he CAN get away with this behavior. He's pushed boundaries with you and you've allowed it. I mean really, you decided to take a course closer to HIS place so YOU could see him? Here's a hypothetical, but why wouldn't HE take the course closer to YOU so he could see YOU?

You're making all the effort here and he thinks he doesn't have to because YOU have told him it's okay to do. You are totally playing beaten wife here and accepting his shitty behavior by not putting him in his place.

You teach others how to treat you and you've taught this loser that being flaky and giving you these lame fuck excuses is okay. There is no confusion, you just refuse to see what's really happening.

A guy who is really into you doesn't treat you as an option who gets his time when he feels like it, he'll actually make time for you and follow through on his words.

Actions speak louder than words. Pay the hell attention to actions and you'd be a lot happier and know what really needs to be done here.
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Posted by TxOgal
update: So he called me today and it turns out there were several misunderstandings..

1. I said something that sounded disrespectful to him last night and i apologized and told him that i take it back n did not mean it to sound like that.. last night he said theres no problem and he was just shocked i said that..

2. Afterwards i continued talking but he was quiet.. i thought he was just tired or sleepy.. and when i asked if im going to see him.. he said "that will be hard...blabla" (today he tells me it was his reaction to what i said last night) I told him but we talked about it and I apologized.. etc. But well this is why he did that to me :/

3. When I muted the call.. the call disconnected shortly after that.. n he thought i hanged up on him without saying anything.. (actually last night i thought he hanged up on me.. how ironic) I told him i didnt hang up and told him he knows why i muted (i used to mute when i cry) he asked me if i were crying.. i didnt respond but well its obvious..

I was so angry on the phone but let everything out n he did too.. then he said he's coming to me now where i am. I discouraged him n told him im leaving in a while anyway.. but he insisted to come see me. So i told him to do whatever he wants.

He came to me n we calmly talked about it.. He apologized to me and I told him not to do that to me ever again and if theres anything wrong he should just tell me and not only react to me cause this complicates things.. especially that the last month many misunderstandings rose between us.. he told me he's really sorry n would never want to upset me.. he was very calm, hugged me n kissed my hand.. and i felt he is telling the truth..

I told him about the army thing.. n he apologized for that too, said that its his mistake.. its not a small thing n he should have told me anyway even if its known.. told me this is depressing him and he was not trying to hide it from me

well thats all i guess ..
Until next time.

Have fun being a doormat.
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Posted by rockyroadicecream
Oh this guy is so full of shit. This is classic "not into you" bullshit. The fact that it continues to get worse is because he gets the vibe that he CAN get away with this behavior. He's pushed boundaries with you and you've allowed it. I mean really, you decided to take a course closer to HIS place so YOU could see him? Here's a hypothetical, but why wouldn't HE take the course closer to YOU so he could see YOU?

You're making all the effort here and he thinks he doesn't have to because YOU have told him it's okay to do. You are totally playing beaten wife here and accepting his shitty behavior by not putting him in his place.

You teach others how to treat you and you've taught this loser that being flaky and giving you these lame fuck excuses is okay. There is no confusion, you just refuse to see what's really happening.

A guy who is really into you doesn't treat you as an option who gets his time when he feels like it, he'll actually make time for you and follow through on his words.

Actions speak louder than words. Pay the hell attention to actions and you'd be a lot happier and know what really needs to be done here.
I do trust your words.. ive agreed with many of your posts on here before .. i wonder did u see the update?

also.. he always came closer to my home, we always met near my home, and wherever i decide. he does make the efforts.. this is whats keeping me with him that i do see efforts from his side.. im no beaten wife.. this is never me
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Posted by rockyroadicecream
Oh this guy is so full of shit. This is classic "not into you" bullshit. The fact that it continues to get worse is because he gets the vibe that he CAN get away with this behavior. He's pushed boundaries with you and you've allowed it. I mean really, you decided to take a course closer to HIS place so YOU could see him? Here's a hypothetical, but why wouldn't HE take the course closer to YOU so he could see YOU?

You're making all the effort here and he thinks he doesn't have to because YOU have told him it's okay to do. You are totally playing beaten wife here and accepting his shitty behavior by not putting him in his place.

You teach others how to treat you and you've taught this loser that being flaky and giving you these lame fuck excuses is okay. There is no confusion, you just refuse to see what's really happening.

A guy who is really into you doesn't treat you as an option who gets his time when he feels like it, he'll actually make time for you and follow through on his words.

Actions speak louder than words. Pay the hell attention to actions and you'd be a lot happier and know what really needs to be done here.
on our first date ..he actually traveled 4 hours to only see me.. i was in a different city n wasnt going back before a month..
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Posted by TxOgal
I do trust your words.. ive agreed with many of your posts on here before .. i wonder did u see the update?

also.. he always came closer to my home, we always met near my home, and wherever i decide. he does make the efforts.. this is whats keeping me with him that i do see efforts from his side.. im no beaten wife.. this is never me
Then why are you playing the role?

And yes I did see your update, you clearly didn't see my response.

I say all of this because I've been there before with a guy like this. ACTIONS are what you need to pay attention to. I mean, look at your meeting. That was just full of shit. He was clearly wrong on doing what he did to you, even if his lame excuses were legit. He could have had some consideration toward you and your time and said "hey I'm so sorry, this came up." Not this last minute bit of "oh yeah, by the way." That attitude there alone speaks volumes about where you really stand with him. If he truly respected you as a person, he wouldn't do that garbage.

As for your meeting? I like how he flipped the script and put YOU on defense when he was in the wrong. YOU said something that ruffled his dick feathers. How dare you!! He proceeds to justify his behavior because of some slight he felt because of his stupid ego.

The apologies were empty and seemed more of a placating move than a genuine apology.

Again, I've been there with a dude who was like this. It does NOT get better. His behavior will continue and only get worse.

As someone else said, this relationship sounds toxic. You're trying to manipulate to get your way because you're unhappy and he's just a self absorbed asshole who feeds you pretty words so he can continue treating you badly. Also, given the fact that you've come here before about this guy and your problems, you really don't have much room to bitch and complain since you're choosing to stay with such a shitty individual. Quit being a masochist and do something about it.
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Oh this guy is so full of shit. This is classic "not into you" bullshit. The fact that it continues to get worse is because he gets the vibe that he CAN get away with this behavior. He's pushed boundaries with you and you've allowed it. I mean really, you decided to take a course closer to HIS place so YOU could see him? Here's a hypothetical, but why wouldn't HE take the course closer to YOU so he could see YOU?

You're making all the effort here and he thinks he doesn't have to because YOU have told him it's okay to do. You are totally playing beaten wife here and accepting his shitty behavior by not putting him in his place.

You teach others how to treat you and you've taught this loser that being flaky and giving you these lame fuck excuses is okay. There is no confusion, you just refuse to see what's really happening.

A guy who is really into you doesn't treat you as an option who gets his time when he feels like it, he'll actually make time for you and follow through on his words.

Actions speak louder than words. Pay the hell attention to actions and you'd be a lot happier and know what really needs to be done here.
on our first date ..he actually traveled 4 hours to only see me.. i was in a different city n wasnt going back before a month..
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And how long ago was this first date?

You cannot compare beginning behavior to current behavior. I know it's hard to do because it's like what the hell happened to this awesome dude?

The person you see in the beginning is the good behavior mask that most people have up when they meet someone new. As time goes along, you begin to learn their REAL self. The behavior NOW is the one you need to pay attention to and compare. Not the shit you saw a YEAR ago. Not the same dude.
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Oh this guy is so full of shit. This is classic "not into you" bullshit. The fact that it continues to get worse is because he gets the vibe that he CAN get away with this behavior. He's pushed boundaries with you and you've allowed it. I mean really, you decided to take a course closer to HIS place so YOU could see him? Here's a hypothetical, but why wouldn't HE take the course closer to YOU so he could see YOU?

You're making all the effort here and he thinks he doesn't have to because YOU have told him it's okay to do. You are totally playing beaten wife here and accepting his shitty behavior by not putting him in his place.

You teach others how to treat you and you've taught this loser that being flaky and giving you these lame fuck excuses is okay. There is no confusion, you just refuse to see what's really happening.

A guy who is really into you doesn't treat you as an option who gets his time when he feels like it, he'll actually make time for you and follow through on his words.

Actions speak louder than words. Pay the hell attention to actions and you'd be a lot happier and know what really needs to be done here.
She's rationalizing because she's too close to get perspective. Either he's gonna hafta leave her or piss her off thoroughly enough to finally do it herself.
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Yeah, I know. But she apparently refuses to see logic as well which is just a double whammy in a situation like this. We all have been there- too close or unsure to see the obvious. But when you refuse to accept what others are telling you and proceed to scramble for reasons why you should stick around...

Nope.

She's gotta do something because people here won't be helping much longer. People like this are fucking lost causes and deserve the misery they get if they aren't going to help themselves. It's fucked up to expect others to continue to allow you to wallow in misery due to your desperation in keeping around assholes like this. Life is too short to waste on behavior like this and the "what ifs" people allow to happen in their minds because they're too scared to ditch the phantom that this person used to be.
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@rockyroadicecream: masochist? excuse me I dont get how I'm being like that..

And what do you expect me to do? hang a rope for him? I'm giving him a second chance
You don't?

Really?

Go reread your posts.

This sounds like more than a second chance.
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I do see what you mean .. and I know that he put me on the defensive but I too made it clear to him how he's been so wrong and he would try to find a way to justify.his actions.. why do u think he ended up explainibg and apologizing? .. I know apologies are no big deal but its a first step.. I am not going to do much from my side.. I will receive and observe.. I will observe quietly while trying to isolate my heart from.it.. and see what his actions are really showing about him..

i just am too understanding maybe.. and this is ehats been showing off in my posts.. but im noway a doirmate .. i really laugh at this
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@rockyroadicecream: masochist? excuse me I dont get how I'm being like that..

And what do you expect me to do? hang a rope for him? I'm giving him a second chance
You don't?

Really?

Go reread your posts.

This sounds like more than a second chance.
I do see what you mean .. and I know that he put me on the defensive but I too made it clear to him how he's been so wrong and he would try to find a way to justify.his actions.. why do u think he ended up explainibg and apologizing? .. I know apologies are no big deal but its a first step.. I am not going to do much from my side.. I will receive and observe.. I will observe quietly while trying to isolate my heart from.it.. and see what his actions are really showing about him..

i just am too understanding maybe.. and this is ehats been showing off in my posts.. but im noway a doirmate .. i really laugh at this
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More frilly words from him, less action.

Have fun trying to get your life together.
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Posted by cheekyfaerie

Rocky means well. For people that have come out the other side of relationships like this or people that lucked out and found someone that treats them the way they deserve to be treated, it's sad to read your posts.

Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe he'll turn around and become that person for you, but these rarely turn out like that. He'll continue to give you just enough to keep you coming back. You'll continue to come here for advice and then tell people they've got it all wrong. You don't know this yet, but it's not supposed to be this way. Like Monty said, it's not supposed to be this hard. You're confusing the emotion you get from the drama as love. This is not healthy love.
+ freaking 1

When I finally experienced what "he's into you" is like, it was a nice realization and good experience to set standards by.

When I finally experienced "not that into you" it also was a good experience and something else to set standards by.



Some people just do not learn, ever. Too desperate and/or caught up. It's sad that women think that they have to tolerate behavior like this. "Understanding?" No. Understanding is when you accommodate such bs excuses in the beginning because you have nothing else to compare by. But if said behavior continues to be a problem after understanding, it stops being "understanding" and more "doormat."

Dude flakes out or acts weird once, fine. You call him out on it and all should be good.

Once it continues, it's kind of obvious what's really going on. It's time to make some grown up decisions. Not stick around like some sad sad teenager. Too many women that come to DXP are stuck in perpetual teenagedom when handling these guys who choose to behave like teenage boys.
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Posted by busyeyes88
What's the point in trying to advise you?! This is not your first thread re this leo. Your relationship is failing and has been for a while. He is not fully invested but you already know this. but you prefer to live in denial and the drama of someone who treats you badly.. Nothing more can be advised or said.
She's a fixed sign. They're lost causes and are drawn to drama.
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Posted by tiziani
" I am not going to do much from my side"


That's kind of the source of your conflict. The thing about actions and words... it cuts both ways.


You're willing to believe you'd made it clear to him where you stand, because you told him a few things and never doing it again. Those are just words.

But to him you're far more likely to be the girl he can call up when he pleases and when it gets to crisis time, just come visit you, smooth things over (and... worryingly... subtly imply it's your fault you're hurt which is pretty emotionally abusive on his part) and just continue on with this cycle of keeping you at priority number 5 on his list. That's who you show yourself to be in his eyes.

It's as much what you do that counts.

With respect to your actual question, I think you have the right to feel whatever you feel. It's just he evidently isn't that great of a protector, and he's not likely to learn how to protect someone's feelings when you continue to sit back and take it. That's all it is really.


I can relate to this ... maybe the problem is I dont know how to "strictly" show him tgat he's created a great problem.. i am sure he has no idea that i had the idea of breaking up on mind from what hes done last night..

He even said that he came to me once he found im upset.. sounding like he scored 10 .. but truth is.. it was the normal thing that he should come.. it is no bonus
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Posted by busyeyes88
What's the point in trying to advise you?! This is not your first thread re this leo. Your relationship is failing and has been for a while. He is not fully invested but you already know this. but you prefer to live in denial and the drama of someone who treats you badly.. Nothing more can be advised or said.
She's a fixed sign. They're lost causes and are drawn to drama.
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You dont know me.. and you dont know that im always the one who runs away from a bad or uncomfortable relationship.. i always broke up knowing it is the right decision even if im still in love with a person.. it is always black or white for me.. and people always wondered how could i be strong enough to detach my heart from someone.. I am sure I would have broken up with him long ago if i saw im unhappy.. but truth is he makes me happy everyday .. apart from the occasional conflicts.. which i believe are present in every relationship?

See Ive been living with a manipulative parent and my ex was too manipulative ... i do spot such behaviour .. I am not blind to it..
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Posted by TxOgal
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How long have you guys been a thing? He doesn't make you a priority. I say move on. You don't have to be THE priority, but you'll never get anywhere if you aren't A priority.
a year .. thing is he never did such thing.. i mean he would even take a day off from work to see me .. cause our work schedule clashes.. i am shocked that he didn not apologize about forgetting to tell me...

is our time together that insignificant?

he has been caring .. he calls me everyday. texts me once he wakes up n mid day at work n even later .. n he has been very understanding.. how do u think i could be "that"calm with him?? .. i am not a calm person when im bothered.. but i find myself mirroring his cool attitude.. but this time it really feels so wrong ...
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TxOgal I don't think any of what you have stated is as big of a problem as your continuing to seek counsel from amateurs who subscribe to a very disposal solution anytime you don't get your way. The onus of establishing a solid relationship with any sign is to first understand, everyone wants to be loved for who they are not who you would like for me to become. Including you. My 2cents
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God...here's yet another apology, because I'm not going to tell you what you want to hear. Montgomery is right. The list of excuses/reasons just keep growing and getting more and more creative. He keeps telling you in so many words that he's not available, nor does he believe that being available to you is a priority. Yes, it hurts like hell, but he keeps telling you that you're not important to him and for some reason, you refuse to believe him. He's going to keep coming up with these reasons and it's NOT a test of your loyalty/desire for him. Next thing you know, he's going to talk you into giving up something VERY important to you in order to fulfill his own selfish desires. A man who wants you will MAKE time and he'll be proud to sacrifice something important to spend time with you. He'll be willing to disappoint others to make you happy/appease you. It's true. Please stop thinking that men don't do it for women. Men make sacrifices for the women they want to be with EVERY single day. Just ask some of the women here who HAVE been loved what men have done for them. Hell, I've had men make sacrifices and change plans just to get sex. It's about what you require. It's like this...require the moon and he'll probably hit the mountain top. Require the mountain top and he'll probably land in a tall tree. Require that he climb a tall tree and he'll at least hurdle bushes for you. But if you require ANY less than that....he's going to lay down and do NOTHING.
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The thing is, OP, you don't know your Leo. If you were really together, he'd share his hopes, dreams and plans with you.

But, just a couple of days ago, you made a faux pas which set me to thinking perhaps this Leo is a dream you have, and that you may not know the real deal here. Maybe he doesn't consider you his girlfriend. And you have ideas about him that may not be fact.

So, its up to you to figure out if you are in something real or its just wishful thinking.
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The thing is, OP, you don't know your Leo. If you were really together, he'd share his hopes, dreams and plans with you.

But, just a couple of days ago, you made a faux pas which set me to thinking perhaps this Leo is a dream you have, and that you may not know the real deal here. Maybe he doesn't consider you his girlfriend. And you have ideas about him that may not be fact.

So, its up to you to figure out if you are in something real or its just wishful thinking.
I dont know what you are talking about? .. i am his girlfriend and we talk about what we want to do in life and how we want to live it.. etc I dont know why you're saying he is a dream?
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Posted by TxOgal
Posted by rockyroadicecream
Posted by busyeyes88
What's the point in trying to advise you?! This is not your first thread re this leo. Your relationship is failing and has been for a while. He is not fully invested but you already know this. but you prefer to live in denial and the drama of someone who treats you badly.. Nothing more can be advised or said.
She's a fixed sign. They're lost causes and are drawn to drama.
You dont know me.. .
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