Oh dear, venus retrograde, fuck off

My virgo - love of my live will love him, love him, love him, love him (do I need to say it anymore) forever.... has come back around, I thought the pre venus retrograde of him returning was enough, settled me etc. but now he's back again and I don't think I can resist him though I should and will, but I love him 😢

Oh dear oh dear oh dear. That feeling is so vulnerable feeling - and I don't think any Lioness enjoys feeling vulnerable. You have all the strength in the world and if you believe resisting him is best - then you will be able to.

-hug- 😢

We're here for you, our Mama Cougar 😉 (lmao, shall we prepare your crown?!) 😛

CL: what are the reasons you should try and resist him if you don't mind?

Resist him ?

Why ?

Posted by sheathedclaws
Oh dear oh dear oh dear. That feeling is so vulnerable feeling - and I don't think any Lioness enjoys feeling vulnerable. You have all the strength in the world and if you believe resisting him is best - then you will be able to.

-hug- 😢

We're here for you, our Mama Cougar 😉 (lmao, shall we prepare your crown?!) 😛

🙂 Thank you, resisting him is best

Posted by R1g0rM0rT1s
CL: what are the reasons you should try and resist him if you don't mind?

I don't mind but the story is too long - shortend version is his ex-wife, she does not want him to have me, i'm sure she won't be so bad with another woman but she's set herself against me, probably because I was his first after their split 😢 we could get back together and face her evilness together but I know she will spew the bile forever and use his children to spread the hate. if he is with me eventually our love will turn and I never want to do anything other than love him so I'm not going to allow that to happen. It took me a long time to get over him and I never want to go through something like that again. she won in the end.

Yes,

Losing a battle sometimes require more courage and strength,

* hug*---We all like you so much CL , in a totally non bluemoon fashion, 😛

Oh those hugs are so gratefully received - I need them right now.

Can't wait to see my crown 🙂

my scorpio friend had a long term issue with her husband's ex wife for exactly the reasons you mention CL....she didn't want anyone else having him. she endured years of constant demands from this woman who seemed determined to continue until divorce papers were served. eventually, when she found out her husband (pisces) had nearly lost their home trying to meet the demands of his ex....without her knowledge....she finally gave up and started divorce proceedings. by that time she had a daughter with him.

after 18 months of a horrible process that nearly tore them both apart, my friend changed her mind. she told me that she realised she had become just like his ex wife and in doing so, had lost the battle with her.

so, now they're together and are happier than ever.

it's hard when you're older and single cos every single person you meet has baggage albeit some of it heavier than others, lol.

I'd love to think I could be happy with him Rig, and I do admit your story gives me hope 🙂 But I just don't think I could risk the pain of losing him again. Its so nice to hear your friend and her husband are stronger than ever, maybe these bitches deserve to be fought against - oh so much to think about.

i think alot depends on the ages of the kids involved. she only has any rights on your virgo until they're 18 and then she can be booted out of his life for good.

when my scorp friend met her pisces, she was in her 20s and her man's daughter was 7 then. after 11 years of piss take from his ex, the pisces finally gave her the finger when their daughter turned 18 and not only that but the daughter moved in with her dad and my scorpio friend. so the ex lost out completely and deserved to.

i can't tell you how strong my friend was and all the shit she had to go through but the pisces is the love of her life and she wasn't prepared to lose him.

hahah....she's a self- style d 'life coach' now...perhaps i should put you in touch with her LOL!!

My horoscope for this week - hmmmm.....

This weekend's solar eclipse marks the start of a relationship cycle which might well start in juddering fashion. It could take until early August before you feel progress is smooth. The issue seems to be that a certain person is carrying emotional baggage that they're finding it hard to relinquish. Another possibility is that they can't - and that it's up to you to adjust. Whilst part of you might intellectually agree that you ought to be able to handle a situation, another part most likely wants to be free of hassle. Over the course of the next seven days you could be in for a bumpy relationship ride. Of course, if you accept that and make the most of the good times, you could ride this storm and in the process let the union gain strength.

His:

Sunday's solar eclipse, like last week's Venus' station is indicative of a period for review of your aims and objectives. Though developments in your working life may be easier to acknowledge, on the emotional front you could be surfing new waves too. If you've been challenged in recent days, then this weekend could find you thinking carefully about who and what you stand for and the compromises you're willing to make to maintain a relationship. You're presumably hoping that a certain person will be thinking along these lines too. Remind yourself frequently that Venus is retrograde for several more weeks (until June 28th) and that it might not be until after that date that balance and harmony is restored - especially if you're dealing with a Taurus, Leo, Scorpio or Aquarius who might presently seem inflexible.

Posted by R1g0rM0rT1s
i think alot depends on the ages of the kids involved. she only has any rights on your virgo until they're 18 and then she can be booted out of his life for good.

when my scorp friend met her pisces, she was in her 20s and her man's daughter was 7 then. after 11 years of piss take from his ex, the pisces finally gave her the finger when their daughter turned 18 and not only that but the daughter moved in with her dad and my scorpio friend. so the ex lost out completely and deserved to.

i can't tell you how strong my friend was and all the shit she had to go through but the pisces is the love of her life and she wasn't prepared to lose him.

hahah....she's a self- style d 'life coach' now...perhaps i should put you in touch with her LOL!!

The kids are 4 - 9, same as mine, i'd hope that whatever she does she couldn't turn them against him, but her sister gets involved too - and she has turned her kids against their dad, I know that they grow up and in many cases can see the situation as it really was - but then again not - and this is something he could not bear. He called yesterday (yeah he actually picks up the phone and talks 🙂) when he had no reason to.. I know from his conversation that he wants me back, but I'm going to take it slowly and not rush to him, he will have to show me that he is equally as strong as me and that he can handle what might happen... even then I'm not sure as it would take a lot to convince me - funnily enough when I was with him a psychic told me about him and that he would get confused and leave me but he would come back and that we would have a very happy life together.

CL: i feel your reticence with the virgo but life is just too short to miss out on a big love and i can feel that you have that between you. my dad, brother and son are virgos and they are such slaves to their nervous systems it's untrue. the whole deal with his ex must've been very hard for him to deal with and he needs emotional backup which i know you want to give him.

from the day my kids were born, my ex's family have bad mouthed me. i've never had anything remotely in common with any of them...specially my ex, lol...and they're small-minded ignoramuses. my son says he always, always defends me if they say anything now but my daughter is more easily influenced by them which is why when she's saying spiteful things to me, her dad's words are coming out of her mouth.

i think unless you are lucky enough to have a harmonious split, this is the way it goes when there are kids involved.

the thing is though CL....everyone deserves a life after divorce. unfortunately, you have to fight harder for it sometimes and it doesn't really matter if there's anyone new in your life or not...look at my situation...feeling pressured into returning to a country i don't come from to live amongst people who can't stand me. it's almost like my ex has more 'weight' as a parent cos of all his miserable family and their constant interference. but i will fight to be happy and i think you and the virgo should also.

one life CL......ONE LIFE!!!!

Posted by R1g0rM0rT1s

i think unless you are lucky enough to have a harmonious split, this is the way it goes when there are kids involved.

I'd respectfully disagree - however, I see your point. I was blessed to have parents that put me ahead of their drama, allowed me to partake in both families after the split, and they put themselves aside when they needed to be on the same page to deal with me. Mom is a Capricorn and Dad is a late Libra (or early Scorpio but I'm 99.9% sure he's a Leeb - that indecisive fuck 😛 😛

To sum it up I'd agree though, that it's always 3875347992144x more complicated when children are involved and people split up.

Posted by Huntress

Posted by R1g0rM0rT1s

i think unless you are lucky enough to have a harmonious split, this is the way it goes when there are kids involved.

I'd respectfully disagree - however, I see your point. I was blessed to have parents that put me ahead of their drama, allowed me to partake in both families after the split, and they put themselves aside when they needed to be on the same page to deal with me. Mom is a Capricorn and Dad is a late Libra (or early Scorpio but I'm 99.9% sure he's a Leeb - that indecisive fuck 😛 😛

To sum it up I'd agree though, that it's always 3875347992144x more complicated when children are involved and people split up.

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actually, we're not disagreeing huntress...in my view, a harmonious split is where the needs of the kids are put before the dramas of the parents, like your example. unfortunately, it doesn't always turn out as civilised as that. i've been divorced for 5 years now and i'm still hoping that we will achieve civility in front of the kids but 'someone' won't move on and that's the problem. we also have polar opposed views on parenting which was always gonna break us up at some point whether he cheated or not. when you're divorced you no longer have to think about compromise with those kind of views and it becomes a complicated ongoing battle of who knows best and zero tolerance.

at the end of the day, i can only take solace in the fact that it was a whole lot worse for my kids when we were together cos my ex is such a dickwit...i made the mistake of having kids with him and i put my hands up to that but of course, i wouldn't change that for the world 🙂

oh and CL...i think the problem with your virgo's ex is that she obviously still wants him. i can't imagine any other reason for women giving their ex's a hard time, especially if they've moved on. i could easily sabotage my ex's relationship if i wanted him back...i could make his life hell...but why on earth would i want to do that when i don't want him any more?

Oooooh I see your point. 🙂

had a text in the middle of the night from a number i don't recognise...someone saying it's been a while and they hope i'm good....had a horrible feeling it was the psycho sag from last year...perhaps the restraining order's expired or something, lol.

yeah it was the sag LOL. he can go swivel.

but today....the hot leo came back to work at our company!!! WOOOOOO HOOOOOOO!! i've got my office eye candy back 😛

Funny - the Sag of my past tried again yesterday! Lmao

oh wow....yet another retrograde appearance...taurean...greek...rather scrumptious actually. wants to take me out 😄

lol...it's good being a woman with many ex's.

I love me some Greek men.

So venus in retrogade is the problem here is it?

Um, I hope so, it would explain many things.

Posted by R1g0rM0rT1s
oh wow....yet another retrograde appearance...taurean...greek...rather scrumptious actually. wants to take me out 😄

lol...it's good being a woman with many ex's.

Good God, woman. All the bugs from your past are coming out...!! Enjoy !

What I am saying is that coz my love life is up the shit, its coz of this retrogade and wont be til next month til things are alot better so til then bye.

Posted by Capriquoise
What I am saying is that coz my love life is up the shit, its coz of this retrogade and wont be til next month til things are alot better so til then bye.

LOLOLOLOLOL WHAT DOES THIS EVEN MEAN?!

Thanks for all the words of wisdom. I subscribed to this after we left each other:

People leave you because they are not joined to you. And if they are not joined to you, you can't make them stay. something which helped me through that time.

I'm still terribly confused about it all and spending a lot of time thinking, but your thoughts are helping 🙂

Posted by 25thDecan
I hope none of mine come back... 😢

If that is what you wish then I hope it comes through. And you know that bod is not helping me think clearly 🙂

This thread made me think of my younger years. After my mother died, my father moved this woman in with him. My sister and I were not having it. I mean not at ALL. We were so mean to this woman. We were downright disrespectful. Let me tell you this woman was unyielding. I don't care what we did or said she was not going anywhere. THOU SHALL NOT BE MOVED was her motto. 🙂. Anyway, after about 3 or 4 years my sister and I just gave up. My dad seemed to be happy and thats all that mattered. She stayed with my dad until he died last year. Almost 20 years. She was a piece of work but I give her credit, 2 teenage girls were no match for her.

The girlfriend is a Taurus, I didn't know that at the time otherwise, I would have realized we were up against a force of nature.

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Posted by 25thDecan
I hope none of mine come back... 😢

If that is what you wish then I hope it comes through. And you know that bod is not helping me think clearly 🙂

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-nod nod- 😉

So finally felt it. Two exes are hovering and one of them made me REALLY angry last night. Gave me a sob story about things that I just really didn't feel like listening to. The other one I am still mad at so yeah. Not feeling any of this right now. The one that made me upset last night was lying to me too, I could tell been there done that. (Grumbles)

non of me venus retro appearances could be classified as ex's. i'm sure they would've been by now but they were just conquests really.....eeek....is that bad??

nala....that's one tough cookie your dad was with!! glad she made him happy til the end and sorry that you lost him 😢

Venus in Retro is Tricky it really is. Alot of times ppl think when a ex return its to get back together. Mostly its for past issues that needs resolution and closure. Now I am not saying that two ppl can't reunite and be happy going forth.
With Venus in Retro ppl need to go slow and cautiously bc you really don't know if its really a second chance or a lesson. I know so many couples that have gotten back together during a venus retro and it was blissful, as soon as Venus started to go back direct the blinders came off. I would wait and just be cool with a person until Venus turns direct then the real deal will show back up. If its meant to be it will be..

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Posted by R1g0rM0rT1s
non of me venus retro appearances could be classified as ex's. i'm sure they would've been by now but they were just conquests really.....eeek....is that bad??

Not for dxp porn it isn't. Vaya con su culo malo. Ay!

How long is this greased lightning-grade sposed to last? I'm not quaking in my boots but if one pops up I wanna be ready to slap the ignore button as hard as possible. You can't bother what you cannot um....you get me. Lol

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it lasts til the 27th june....so quite a while left to keep a low profile, lol.

Posted by Striking
Venus in Retro is Tricky it really is. Alot of times ppl think when a ex return its to get back together. Mostly its for past issues that needs resolution and closure. Now I am not saying that two ppl can't reunite and be happy going forth.
With Venus in Retro ppl need to go slow and cautiously bc you really don't know if its really a second chance or a lesson. I know so many couples that have gotten back together during a venus retro and it was blissful, as soon as Venus started to go back direct the blinders came off. I would wait and just be cool with a person until Venus turns direct then the real deal will show back up. If its meant to be it will be..

yeah, this is true. it's a time to reflect on all relationships and any issues that you may or may not still have. it's neither a time to get back with someone....or to start something new as like you say, when venus switches and starts moving forward again everything changes...realisations are made...closure is granted...and then people should be free to move on.

of course, everything depends on how each individual responds to the circumstances the retrograde creates.

25th: are you regretting dating some psycho bitches in your past? lol...you sound scared....perhaps you should be 😄

Posted by Xin
So finally felt it. Two exes are hovering and one of them made me REALLY angry last night. Gave me a sob story about things that I just really didn't feel like listening to. The other one I am still mad at so yeah. Not feeling any of this right now. The one that made me upset last night was lying to me too, I could tell been there done that. (Grumbles)

Look at it this way: you now know better to not buy into it from them. Let's share a toast for learning from mistakes! 😉

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Posted by Xin
So finally felt it. Two exes are hovering and one of them made me REALLY angry last night. Gave me a sob story about things that I just really didn't feel like listening to. The other one I am still mad at so yeah. Not feeling any of this right now. The one that made me upset last night was lying to me too, I could tell been there done that. (Grumbles)

Look at it this way: you now know better to not buy into it from them. Let's share a toast for learning from mistakes! 😉

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Awe my favorite feline! (Hug)
Yeah I know. I just ended talking to the one that made me angry last night.
Removed him from everything. I wanted to be friends (well he came back to be friends), but it's apparent that won't work either. So now I feel like throwing in the towel for guys in general. Keep a low profile too like R1gOr said earlier.

Oh lawd! I spoke too soon. Virgo just contacted me wanting to get back together. Really?
Wow I need to hide out seriously!

Why Hide, just say NO!! Venus retro is about lessons and closure..Tell him no and then tell him why and close the door back for good. Obviously he feels he has a chance cause he is contacting you or he is just plain ole crazy..lol

oh my word...got an out of the blue email from a sag from the past...saying 'we lost contact'.......yeah - 5 YEARS AGO!!!!

i was in the middle of my marriage breakup and so i disappeared on him. he moved from spain and now lives in texas!!!

jesus..this transit is doing my head in now!!!!!

xin: when in doubt, say nothing and do nothing 🙂

it's really starting to freak me out now. this morning on my drive to work i got stuck in traffic and saw i had an im message on my blackberry. it was the scorp who used to work at my place and had hit on me several times despite being in a relationship with kids and blah.

he wanted to see me for coffee. needs to talk to me, he said.

i declined but it made me think that all of my retro appearances have been with guys i wasn't in a relationship with...i saw them for a bit and for whatever reason it didn't go further.

was just noting the common denominator.

Gosh, Rigggg....you are really cleaning out the closet of your past with all these fella's turning up. I really wonder what it means. Im sure there is lesson there somewhere, keep your eyes open. I think the common denominator thing is a good start.

nah...the closet's still pretty full to bursting, lol!! it's like a tardis!

today's headcount: one bulgarian aqua and a russian pisces LOL. i've been busier than i thought!!

Posted by Striking
Why Hide, just say NO!! Venus retro is about lessons and closure..Tell him no and then tell him why and close the door back for good. Obviously he feels he has a chance cause he is contacting you or he is just plain ole crazy..lol

It's easier on the mind and heart to hide. Regardless of which ex.. it's always preferable to speak to none if you're moving on. It's just easier that way.. and you get to avoid the 'oh gosh, why did I date that d-bag in the first place' conversation with yourself.

Posted by Xin
Oh lawd! I spoke too soon. Virgo just contacted me wanting to get back together. Really?
Wow I need to hide out seriously!

Oh geesh.. hate it how as soon as you say how something *didn't* happen (and only when you're glad it didn't happen, mind you) IT HAPPENS WITHIN THE DAY.

Last Sunday was talking about police and driving and how I've never gotten a ticket..

.. within 2 minutes a state cop caught me doing 93 (luckily I'd slowed down before even noticing the cop.. WAS going 10somethingorother) in a 65.

Don't let the consistent surprises/notsosurprises break you down into any frustration or unhappiness.. or even change of heart (well, the irrational kind). That's letting them win, of sorts.

And to let you know.. I'm needing to take that advice too. 🙂

This too shall pass.

Until then we'll discuss how we're SOOOOO glad we're not billionaires.. right? 😉
(gotta pay that speeding ticket SOMEHOW - right?!)

ps: (hughughug!) 🙂

Oh My, he's coming over tomorrow night - i'm so happy but I want to cry too - scared? Hell yeah. Wish me luck fellow Lions etc.

Huntress, i'd give you the money for the speedo if I could 🙂

Oh my...how interesting, CL. what's your stratgey? LOL

At least, what will you wear?? Good luck!!