confused or crazy libra?

Ok I'll try to condense this. I'm aquarian,he's Libra. We had the most blissfully perfect love. I'd never met anyone so kind annd loving and gentle. He was my best friend as well as my love. I knew all along he was moving back home to Guatemala,but was so in love didn't care. Then before he left we decided we would wait for each other and i'd come there when he got established. We never had even one argument! We just totally made each other happy. So here's my problem;ever since he's been back in Guatemala he's like a different person. He's cold and distant and doesn't seem to care how I feel. Recently his aunt and I figured out he's been staying drunk almost continuously,but here he rarely drank at all. And it's not just me,he's the same to her,just not as bad. So 4 days ago I tried to push him to tell me what's going on,why he's totally changed and he blew up and said he can't wait for me,he needs someone now and we can never be together and hung up on me! Yes he was drunk then too,but he hasn't caalled me to apologize or anything. I haven't called him because obviously he's freaking out,so I'm giving him some space. But I've never been so hurt and confused. It's like jekyl and Hyde! So I don't know what to do. How could he go from loving me completely to crushing my soul? He was a virgin before. He's 28 and I'm his first relationship. He's beautiful,but he never seemed to believe me when I said that. Anyway,can anyone shed some light? Is he so miserable that he's numbing himself with alcohol? Or can a Libra guy totally change his entire personality? Do I just give hime time and space to sort things out or give up entirely? When I said I know you loved me that last conversation he said yeah I loved you there but you're so far away. WTH? I realize everything he says is clouded by alcohol,but I don't know if he means what he's saying or if he's pushing me away because he's hurting and doesn't know how to handle it. The fact that he's being equally distant with his aunt that he adores makes me think he's just confused and not dealing with it well,but I don't know! God this is too painful! I miss him so much but I can't even talk to him because he's just not him! Any insight on this? Has anyone else seen similar meltdowns? Do I give up or give him time? Please help me!

We were together for six months,but we were together every single day after about the third day because he didn't ever want to be away from me! We slept in each others arms every night and he didn't want me to get 2 inches away from him even in his sleep. He woke me up every morning by whispering how much he loved me and how beautiful I was into my ear! He said he didn't know if he could live without me! And he's only been gone one month,but he's been acting this way since day one of being back there! So I know he didn't find someone else the first day! And the way he's also being distant to his aunt is what makes me think he just can't handle the separation,but instead of talking about it he's trying to make it go away by drinking. And I think he's trying to find a "me" there so he won't be so lost,but I just don't understand how he can do that. I'm miserable without him but I sure as hell don't want to replace him! It seems for a guy to have stayed a virgin till he's 28 that he couldn't just stop loving me and jump into the first girl he meets! Literally! Or can Libra guys do that?

Thanks for your help. As far as him already having someone there,I know he disnt because he's been in the states since he was 20. And his aunt even confirmed that he never had a girlfriend before me because she said she was always trying to get him to go out and meet someone,but he never wanted to. She said he was like an old man,just work hard all day then come home and never wanted to out. Then she said he met me and she barely saw him anymore. He'd sit around talking to her checking his phone every minute or so and as soon as i'd text him he bolted out the door and she wouldn't see him again until the next day while he was waiting for me to get off from work and text him.

Posted by broken214
Thanks for your help. As far as him already having someone there,I know he disnt because he's been in the states since he was 20. And his aunt even confirmed that he never had a girlfriend before me because she said she was always trying to get him to go out and meet someone,but he never wanted to. She said he was like an old man,just work hard all day then come home and never wanted to out. Then she said he met me and she barely saw him anymore. He'd sit around talking to her checking his phone every minute or so and as soon as i'd text him he bolted out the door and she wouldn't see him again until the next day while he was waiting for me to get off from work and text him.

He's focused on you. Give him some time to rebalance.

Thank you so much. I've never been so confused in my life! I guess it's the alcohol talking for him to be so cold and arrogant. I'm really worried about him on top of being hurt. He's being pushed on all sides. His family there were living large on all the money he sent home to them and now that the money flow has stopped they're not nearly as thrilled with his homecoming as he envisioned. So...he drinks with all of his old buddies from school and pushes away the 2 people who love him more than anything. Aside from our relationship I worry that he's losing himself. I wish there was a way to help him from here. He depended on me for emotional support,but now he doesn't want me to worry about him so he won't talk about anything too deep. He even told his sister that he's staying with that she's not allowed to tell the aunt if he's having any problems because he doesn't want her to worry. He totally martyrs himself for his family and all but his aunt just use him. So I feel like he needs me,but pushing at all right now only results in him withdrawing more. So I guess I just wait and pray?

When's his birthdate?

September 25,1982 and he was born in Guatemala,but he has no idea what time. He's one of 10 kids and all the older boys were kind of abusive to him when he growing up and according to the aunt his mother(her sister) is cold and has a hard time expressing love. His aunt says the mother never says those words,unlike her. The aunt has been in the states for 22 years and for 7 of those he lived with her and she adores him. She's very loving to him and talks about him like he's an angel,which frankly he pretty much was until now. He always did everything he could for her and then me also after we began our relationship. He's normally very shy and just plain sweet. Honestly,he was unbelievable! I kept waiting thinking something HAD to be wrong with him because noone is that nice all the time,but after awhile I just accepted that he was. And he always was,everyday without fail,just pure love and tenderness until now. His father was murdered when he was 10 which affected him to the point that he always said he hoped he died before the rest of his family,then me later,because he didn't want to live thru that loss again. And now he's doing this craziness. He has issues,but they all just seemed to make him who he was. Is there anywway to help him from this distance? He's very inexperienced and vulnerable no matter how coccky he's acting!

He's confused...his reality of living in your country is over and now he is living in his own country...the two worlds are miles apart. You fitted so perfectly in your world together but his reality now, you dont fit into...As you experience minute by minute day by day so does he in a life you dont understand and the gap probably feels like it could never be closed....

So he is pushing you away!

Ok that makes sense. It hurts,but it makes sense. I still don't understand the complete personality change and why he's being distant with his aunt too. It seems like the memories are so painful he'd rather drink than think of us. I honestly don't think I can ever get over him! I mean,won't he ever become himself again? And if he does how can he not even try? His aunt is from there and she thinks he's just hurting and will eventually come to his senses,but she's leaving open the end possibility that the constant drinking could alter him forever. This is killing me! We were so close that i 'd take friendship rather than nothing,he truly was my best friend and imiss him. It hurts that I can't just pick up the phone and call my best friend. Because he currently doesn't exist! So is it hopeless? I can't even think about being with anyone else,so waiting and giving him space isn't a problem,but I wish I could know if there was any hope at all! And if he's going to survive this. Incidentally,there are loads of American expats living in Guatemala,so my moving there isn't a crazy unreachable dream. I do think he believes i'd be unhappy,but to cut it off at the knees before even trying I don't get. How do you just forget someone you loved as deeply as he loved me? I know I sound desperate because I am and I'm not sleeping. I'm going crazy! I know noone can say for certain,but I need help! He has not seeen this crazy desperate side by the way,but I think he senses it. I just don't understand how he can throw it all away. He's not even allowing room for maybe being wrong and regretting how he's acting. Of course I think he believes I will never stop loving him so he can be as crazy mean as he wants. I know I'm talking in circles. I've had an hour and half sleep!

Why did he go back to Guatemala? Is there a chance he'll move back?
It almost seems as if he was better off here and is not re-adjusting too well there.

He went back because his older brother who manipulates him told him to so they could start a business. He says he has to do what his brother says because he's been like his father,but his aunt loathes that brother,won't even speak to him. She says he uses him and she can't understand why he let's him continue to do so,but like I said before,he will martyr himself for his family out of loyalty. He was better off here,but he thinks he has to do this. Meanwhile the brother is still here calling the shots while he's left to do everything there. And as far as him trying to manipulate me into rushing there, I actually was telling him I was coming in January and he kept saying " I don't know if I'll be ready,just wait..its gonna take time,etc" that was before the " I can't wait,I need someone now,we can never be together"blow up. And I haven't talked to him since. I'm trying to keep enough distance so he isn't feeling pressured by me along with everything ele. And also hoping he'll stop freaking out,realize he might lose me,and start being himself again. But he hasn't called yet. Of course he's never been that unkind and callous with me before either,so he may not know how to go forward. This is. His first real relationship with a woman. He had a gf there when he was younger but she's in the states now and married with children and they were never physically intimate. He said he'd spent more time with me in the first month than he did with her in 2 years because he was with me everyday and night.

Posted by broken214
He went back because his older brother who manipulates him told him to so they could start a business. He says he has to do what his brother says because he's been like his father,but his aunt loathes that brother,won't even speak to him. She says he uses him and she can't understand why he let's him continue to do so,but like I said before,he will martyr himself for his family out of loyalty. He was better off here,but he thinks he has to do this. Meanwhile the brother is still here calling the shots while he's left to do everything there. And as far as him trying to manipulate me into rushing there, I actually was telling him I was coming in January and he kept saying " I don't know if I'll be ready,just wait..its gonna take time,etc" that was before the " I can't wait,I need someone now,we can never be together"blow up. And I haven't talked to him since. I'm trying to keep enough distance so he isn't feeling pressured by me along with everything ele. And also hoping he'll stop freaking out,realize he might lose me,and start being himself again. But he hasn't called yet. Of course he's never been that unkind and callous with me before either,so he may not know how to go forward. This is. His first real relationship with a woman. He had a gf there when he was younger but she's in the states now and married with children and they were never physically intimate. He said he'd spent more time with me in the first month than he did with her in 2 years because he was with me everyday and night.

A huge difference in cultures, that's for sure. The one thing that sticks out like a sore thumb to me is that he seemed to be happy and thriving here in the states. He goes back there and is suddenly unhappy and drinking. Seems kind of obvious to me that he doesn't really want to be there and has to find the courage somewhere to say NO to big brother.

That is the truth,but I don't see it happening. They had a business here together and he did most of the work while his brother controlled the money,but here he was still making seven times what he could make there! And from what I can tell,he's done nothing really to get anything going there. He's too busy drinking. I think he'd be better off coming back here. His aunt wants him to and she's going for a visit in March so maybe by then he'll be so tired of it all he'll come back with her. Who knows? He made the grand statement that he was never coming back and he's pretty stubborn. Then again he apparently can change his mind in the blink of an eye. I don't know. Right now I'm just unbelievably hurt,I trusted him so completely and loved him so much,but that person he's been all his life seems to be gone. And I don't like the new him! In fact if that's all he's ever going to be from now on I don't really want to talk to him! It just makes me more sad because I realize "my" guy is gone. Its like a death. So I guess I'll mourn,pray, and keep a tiny flicker of hope burning,but essentially I just have to keep living. Its just such a shame and a waste. He was so wonderful. I believe that somewhere in there he's still there,but I may never see it again. I've read all the other posts about how Libras disappear and reappear,so maybe one day he'll show back up. I hope so.

Thanks for breaking it down where it makes a little sense,because his being mean was one of the things I just didn't get. The concept of him ever being mean in the past was just alien. I mean,he was such a sweet guy that when he found a stray kitten once and brought it home only to discover my cat was not having it,he took the kitten back where he found it and then went 3 times a day to feed it and play with it until he conned one of his friends into taking it. His whole life was just a series of random acts of kindness,so for him to suddenly become this belligerant,cocky ass and especially to ME,the one person he seemed to always turn to,just didn't make sense. I never nagged him,but he himself kept setting me up to be in a position where I can see it would seem like I was pressuring him. He did that by telling me everyday "call me tomorrow" and then either wouldn't answer or when he did answer he just talked about surface things,kind of joking around,teasing or being a smart ass. It's very hard to get thru to Guatemala sometimes,most of the time,so after not answering for a couple days he told me my calls must not be going thru,that if he didn't answer,they weren't going thru,to keep trying. So i'd call over and over which made me seem deranged,but that's what he said to do. Then finally one night he called me and asked why I called so many times the night before,that he didn't always have his phone on him like he did here,and that was why he didn't answer. So I reminded him that he told me to keep calling and he laughed and said "why you so crazy?",but from then on he would always answer,talk for about 10 minutes,tell me not to spend too much money calling him and to call him tomorrow! And on a surface level all was well until I decided to try to get him to open up and tell me why he was so cold and distant now. He got defensive said maybe that's how he is now and it just went downhill from there. Evvery other call no matter how much of a weirdo he was being ended with him saying he loved me,that one ended with him telling me he didn't want to wait for me,he needed someone now,we can never be together and hanging up on me. So now I haven't called him since and it's been 5 days. And he hasn't called me. So he's got space now. If I never hear from him again should I never call him? I got the whole tension,feeling pressured thing after he blew up,which is why I decided the best thing I could do for him would be back off and let him figure it out.

So,the ball is in his court. I'm not calling him anymore. But should I never call or call after some time has passed and act like nothing happened during our last drunken rant call and just let him know I still care,leave it at that and see if he ever digs his way out? I never meant to make him feel pressured, I never have tried to control him,we were always just perfect together. It wasn't until he got there and began acting like he was the victim of alien abduction that I felt like I was wandering thru strange territory,but I still never pressured him. I called because he told me to. So waiting awhile and then calling like nothing happened seems the best way to go to me. Unless he breaks down and calls me,but I still think I should just go on like nothing happened and just step back. I really don't want to lose him if I can prevent it.

I know...you guys are right. I don't know what the crap is going on,but it's his apparent complete personality change that's thrown me into this insanity. When he was here he chased me,but then we settled into this very comfortable love where we knew each other so well,so completely,it was honestly just beautiful. There was never any game playing. Never. He was there for me,I was there for him,end. He did have this tragically beautiful thing going on,but it just seemed to make him shy. I don't know how it all changed,why he's changed. I know he's turned me into a lunatic and it does pi@s me off,but I just miss him so much. I just keep thinking it will all go back to normal. And it never does. I guess I realized in the beginning he was using my callss to bolster his ego,but just didn't care because I did want him to know I wasn't giving up on us.. Then it became a circus. I just don't see how I will ever get over this. Or trust anyone again. He's done irreparable harm I'm afraid..I never let my guard down so completely and just totally trusted anyone before. But now that he's done this....it hurts incredibly. I can't articulate the pain. All my words.....just can't express the level of pain I'm in. I want to hate him for ruining everything. Guess I'm not there yet.

Hey here's a thought before I throw myself in front of traffic, I keep reading about Libras mirroring? I know what the word means! Is it possible there is no REAL him and the reason he was so perfect was he was mirroring me? And since going home he's mirroring his drunken hombres? Don't know where that leaves us,but just had that revelatory thought.

Haha! At least you made me laugh! Thank you so much for putting so much effort in helping me. I have become a basket case! I hear all you said and will attempt to implement this. And yes, I know I've been making excuses and been hard in denial. The only thing I do know anymore is that when he was here,we did have that circle you mentioned. If I was having a bad day he would lift me up,make me laugh,kiss my tears away,all those things you crave. And I did the same when he was having a tough time. But mostly all days were good because we were just so damn happy! I very much had myself together. My life felt good and solid,I knew who I was,what I wanted,all that. Unfortunately when he came into my life he just added to it. He was all the things i'd made my mind up that I wouldn't settle for less. Believe me, I've had countless relationships where I tried desperately to make them be what I wanted or needed and they just weren't. But he was. Damn...anyway,when you do find someone who completes you even though you felt complete before, its just hard to accept that person is gone. Its hard to move on. My mind and heart keep searching for that person he was. Like subconsciously even,my soul aches and underlying is the thought."where is he? He will make me feel ok" but he's nowhere. I'm just shipwrecked alone when he had wrapped me in his arms and our dreams became one,and there was no more night. Ah God! And now its just me again! Anyway,I am going to try and do what you said. Maybe not in 3 days lol,but at least I will begin. Again.

Well gee guys...I'm kind of afraid to post anything after all the Aqua bashing. You know...seeings how I AM the Aquarius in this particular combo lol! And yeah,we're strange sometimes,but I must have something else influencing my sign because I've somehow turned out pretty stable. I'm a great friend and don't take people for granted. I'm a bit ADD at times,but overall I'm very invested in all my interactions with others. Sometimes I care more about how they feel than I do about myself. He's the one that flipped out and became a whole other person! But no one is perfect. I just thought I'd clear that up!

No offense taken lol! You've been very helpful and I do appreciate the guidance.

he's gotten into the shadow phase. he won't come out til he's ready. there's nothing you can do. live your life. if you still want him when he comes out, you can start again from the beginning. right now, all you can really do is move on.

Ok,that's a new phrase for me. What exactly is the shadow phase? I know he's unhappy and drinking and probably would like to come back,but he's way too stubborn to admit he possibly made a mistake,but as several people pointed out,he's perfectly aware that he can call me when he needs me. He's isolating himself from me and his aunt so he can be miserable about how nobody cares. In reality,we both care and he knows it. So I'm just going to let him enjoy his pity party,nobody cares about me,world that he's choosing to live in. Maybe I will still be available if he decides to re-engage his brain. I wasn't looking for anyone when he blasted into my life and attached to me and after this ride, I'm REALLY not looking for anyone. But what are these shadow phases? Is this some new joy I could look forward to every now and then if I ever dared trust him again? Because I tell you, I've had about as much "fun" as I can take this past month. I love him even still,but I'm so tired of guessing. We didn't play emotional games when he was here and I am not enjoying this one. Being confused is one thing,but deliberately hurting someone who loves you,what?just because you can I guess? That's different. And cruel. Something he never was before and that isn't just my view of him,that's coming his aunt who loves him very much,but even she won't call him anymore because of how he's acting. Its one thing to go nutso and push your girlfriend away because of whatever.....but he's doing the same thing to her! And its hurting her feelings! So please clue me in,why does he seem to want to be cruel to her? She tried to tell him it was going to be hard and not like his romanticized version in his head. She adores him and he was very close to her. Why is he doing this to her? What if any is his reasoning? He makes my brain tired!

Ok great,so I need to rescue him from himself, but I can't be straight up and blunt? Any suggestions on how to convey these things to him? Seriously,I have no idea! I know if I was face to face with him I could get through to him,but I don't have a spare grand to pop down there for the weekend. I wish I did. And with all you said,how do you think its affecting him that I've stopped calling? I'm guessing its proving to him that I don't REALLY love him? What can I do? He's always under the influence and no he is not sorting thru anything! He refuses to get anywhere near the memories of us or his life here. In fact,me trying to push him to confront what's happening iis what led to the huge backlash of him saying we can never be together! So me needing him desperately prompts nothing but more withdrawal,when in the past he ate it up! I love him more than I can say,and I really have no problem trying to save him. I am a caregiver by nature and profession,but I don't know how I can save someone who seems intent on destroying himself and won't listen to me. And as you've brought to my attention,I am pretty blunt! So any advice on what I should do,say,or not do or say would be greatly appreciated!

Geez Louise! Talk about conflicting advice! Save him from himself before its too late,leave him alone, makes me want to check myself into the psych ward! I am very inclined to believe that he's doing this all out of total confusion and hurt simply because when you put his aunt into the equation it really doesn't add up. I can totally understand pushing me away as his girfriend,there's always the possibility that he found someone else,he never really loved me,etc. But when you throw her into the mix,that's when it all unravels and becomes irrational. So his being in this shadow phase from which he apparently doesn't have the skills to extradite himself is actually the only thing that makes sense. He will not reach out on his own and I am oh so tired of trying to bring him to his senses fom so far away,but if anyone has any suggestions on how to help him let me know. Otherwise I'm forced to choose not contacting him and hope he figures it out. He does have a slight death wish. I don't want to drive him further into self loathing.

I have looked at it objectively-that's the problem, his behaviour is illogical! It is incongruent with my Spock like observations! Its like he's thrown himself overboard for no apparent reason and then swims away from the life ring when its thrown to him! I deal with mentally ill people all the time,and what he's doing seems to fall into these parameters. And no I don't wish to be in a relationship with a mentally unstable person,but it goes against all my training to see abrupt and distinct personality and behavioural changes and not want to help him. Love aside,he's being self destructive. And he is a big ass baby! But I just hate to see so much potential thrown away. However I was done being his unwanted saviour until people started throwing in this "shadow phase-save him" aspect. I'm trying to get to the bottom of that!

Thankyou,this is what my rational brain tells me also. Being jungle boy from Guatemala, I don't think he has the ability to seek help,but I can do nothing until he stops acting like a child. I can tell him I care and I am here. Beyond that, he has to save himself.

Lol! Will do! Obviously its not hard to lead me away from rationality! I was pretty solid on how I was to proceed until they threw the shadow phase thing in my path and then there I go again! Sometimes it sucks having the innate need to analyze things to death and explore every avenue while also being empathetic to the point of destruction.

Posted by broken214
However I was done being his unwanted saviour until people started throwing in this "shadow phase-save him" aspect. I'm trying to get to the bottom of that!

who said anything about saving him? i brought up the shadow phase in the first place. you can't save someone who is in a shadow phase, least of all a libra. and i don't mean YOU, and mean no one can "save" them. they'll come out of it by themselves when they're good and ready, after moping for a while. in fact, if you try to "save" a libra who is in a shadow phase, they will feel guilty for not being able to be saved, and they will be even meaner to themselves for it. and they'll probably hate you for interfering. when they are better, being near you will remind them of how they were, and they will feel embarrassed and avoid you.

the best option you have is to move on with your life. if you really want to check in here and there (no more than once a month), you can do that. but you can't be pushy. when libra emerges from the shadow, he can find you if he wants you.

Whole big mess.

If you come out of this alive, you'd be on your way to enlightenment.

I didn't know aquas can go the libra clingy way 😛

Detach and carry on with your life.. if it's meant to be, nothing can stop it from happening.

Carry that memory and get on with life......

Seems like through all these you're wanting to control him, to get him to act according to this set idea you have.. that's why you're going crazy.. leave all expectations out of the equation. When he comes back, accept him. When he doesn't, accept that too.

Just know that you've got an indelible place in hs heart, what with first love and all that.. and leave that control out the front door.

As others mention before, you can't control someone; their demons are their own to fight. You can only look through the glass door. Sharing in his demons is not going to lessen any for him. They're just going to haunt you and make 2 very miserable people. Leave him be. What's making you crazy is your mind and your expectations.

The beauty of humans is that they are not textbook (or Mills and Boon) perfect..

Trust me, especially not Libras.

People are charmed into relationships with Libras thiking they're the eternal perfect lover.. what does them in is this script in their head.. script of expectations.

They're just as fallible as anyone, and they have their own ways of coping.

Posted by Jockey2809
The poor guy is completely broken. He simply cannot fathom the sudden change in his life away from you and is unfortunately losing the plot because he wants you at his side to inspire and motivate him.

Trust me. This shadow phase will take a long time if he continues to convince himself that this business thing will work over his relationship with you. BIG mistake on his behalf. Even with his Cap moon (I'm guessing Cap as I'm 3 days later same year & have Aqua moon) it will likely NOT work for him.

Shadow phase is likely defined (for Libra) as the deliberate alienation to everything when experiencing loss of something/someone and/or when it severely affects routine. This often hightens Libran mental sensitivity beyond control & usually involves lots of drugs/alcohol to cope. The irrational lashing out is obviously while under the influence and he needs to understand that this behaviour is nothing but immature and foolish. You need to somehow tell him these things before everything falls apart permanently.

You being an Aqua, just be careful not to be straight up and blunt about the whole thing, or it might set off more irrational arguing from his end.

Surely he has evaluated everything in his head but can't or won't sort things out like an adult should.

I dunno. Something like that anyway. :/

This is the post I was refering to as tellling me to save him. I've already said that I've decided all I can do at this point is let him know I'm still here and still care,but I can't fight his demons for him,nor can I control what he does or doesn't do. As far as being clingy, I wouldn't really call it that. We were in a committed loving relationship. One in which we both consentually engaged in and both made plans on being together for the rest of our lives. My whole reason for seeking advice on here was because he seemed to undergo a complete personality change once he got home and it was so illogical that I thought perhaps there was something underlying (ie.his astro.sign) that was prompting this behaviour,because generally people don't exhibit complete and abrupt changes in their core being unless there is something catastrophic going on or happened,or they're suffering from a mental illness. So having your fiance suddenly pull away from you and all others in their lives tends to make you want to figure out what is go

Going on. I never intended to try to control him. As far as I know that isn't love. Love is accepting someone for who they are,period. So I guess I came off as clingy,lol! I'm not,I was just blindsided by the sudden personality transplant. I am close to others in his family and am well aware that the guy I knew wasn't some made up being,or my perception of him. It was who he'd been all his life until recently. I was sad and disturbed because it didn't make sense,but I never intend to wrap myself around him and force him to stay. That's not love either. I've gained a lot of useful advice from all of you and I appreciate it. But through this I've learned that whatever he's going through,its something he has to get through on his own. Like I said before,all I can do is let him know I still care and am still here regardless of what he decides to do. From there on,he's the one that has to work his way out.

Posted by KingofLibras

Posted by spica
I didn't know aquas can go the libra clingy way 😛

Oh yeah!

Those aquafuckers can be clingy too. The only problem is, the second you start being clingy/mushy back at them they will run away and never ever call you back! Trust me on this. They cling to those who give them space or just outright ignore the shit out of them, they can't help it. Its like if you dump an aquarius, in their mind they hate you for being so dependent on you because they realize how awesome the relationship is if you can walk away and leave them alone, and they hate how much they like that. So they brew it over in their heads and then out of a blue call you up and tell you they want you in their life, at least as 'friends'. See this aqua is going apeshit crazy because she is being treated with indifference. They get off on that

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It seems to me like you're slightly misinformed or have been wounded by an Aqua in the past. I don't really see why I'm being attacked for my birth sign just because I was worried about the guy who I loved! When he was here he was clingy and I never pushed him away or detached from him . We didn't play head games! We loved each other! I mean,seriously? You make this broad generaliztion of all people born at a certain point in time when there are thousands of variables! You don't know me! And you don't know him! I'm not the only one he's being indifferent to. I love him and I knew who he was,before all this crap. So unless you think shutting out everyone you care about and becoming a raging alcoholic is a good idea I don't really see your point in attacking me because I worry about him!

So here's a wee update. Finally spoke with him last night. I told him that I will always love him,but I want him to be happy so maybe he should just find someone there and go on with his life. I told him I will always be here for him and will always be his best friend,but I just think he's so conflicted right now its best to take the pressure off where I'm concerned. So as soon as all that was said he started back pedaling saying he'd always love me most of all and would never find anyone like me and was I still coming? I told him I would still come for a visit,but it would be kind of awkward if he was with someone else! So then suddenly he wasn't in such a hurry! He said he wanted me to come and he wanted to spend the whole time with me and show me his country. Then after he thought he'd successfully smoothed things over he told me how much he loved me and missed me. I never brought up any of the crap that's been going on. And I meant what I said. It wasn't a ploy of some sort. I really had come to a place of peace in my soul where I can let him go. I guess he could tell that. So when I let him go then he flipped and didn't want to be let go! So I don't really know what he wants, I don't think he does! All I know is I am not into games. And as much as I love him, I meant what I said,so who knows what will happen? Is this common for Libras to freak when you try to graciously bow out? I mean, I'm not dumping him,I said I would never stop loving him,but I just wanted him to be happy. Now suddenly(once again) I'm what makes him happy? Oy vay!