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Libra's cruel judgement based on one night
This is the first time that I can't read this guy. He says that he wants to be friends but ignores my text. I texted him asking if he can put aside some time to talk to me tonight or tomorrow. He really had awful timing to tell me all these things as to why he thought we should just be friends. I don't know if it's a Taurus trait but I have this tendency to let go my pride and work things out regardless if it's what I want. He was someone I trusted and confided in during my darkest hours. Hence, I place more value in my friendship with him than keeping my pride up and getting burned the way I did.
Posted by wsigaf
he's going to reevaluate you, that's for sure..
It seems he already has. But I know myself,it was naive for me to think that he would know me too. Perhaps if he had worded it differently I wouldn't be as offended. Say " You're too social and not as conservative when drinking" then I would reevaluate myself instead of feeling attacked. I'm nit picky with how words are used.
LOL! ^_^ that was funny--- all part of my charm 😉
libras don't let on, but we almost always want to be the center of the world to our partner. not in an obvious way or anything, and not in a domineering way. but we love people who seem to love us. we need to feel special. and you didn't seem very discriminating the other night. how can he feel special when you'll socialize with anyone?
he can say it's because you aren't conservative or whatever, but he's lying to save face. you just made him feel like he didn't matter. that's all it is.
if you want to keep being friends, you can probably fix it. it'll just take a lot of time. and you can't just jump into it. you've got to build up to it.
he can say it's because you aren't conservative or whatever, but he's lying to save face. you just made him feel like he didn't matter. that's all it is.
if you want to keep being friends, you can probably fix it. it'll just take a lot of time. and you can't just jump into it. you've got to build up to it.
I spoke to him just an hour ago. Spilled out my speech on how I value the friendship more than holding a grudge because I felt rejected. Well, he said he too, valued our friendship that we had/have. Although I love him, I have to let it go and follow through with what I told him before. I told him that "I got his back," and that stays the same even now despite the hurt I feel. I hate going back on my word and it really surprises me that I can get over myself and try to salvage a friendship. I tend to cut ties when rejection happens. My only concern is that he'll change his mind on the friendship.
Ok, some back story. I haven't mentioned it but the events that happened before the "let's just be friends" speech of his was chaotic and too drama filled even for me. He actually told his friend that he would tell me in the morning that he wanted to just be friends. This is when Libra basically left the party for 2 hours. He trusted this friend to keep his mouth shut because his original intention was to tell me one on one. However, this friend of his told his crush about it. His friend's crush felt inclined to tell me because she, for whatever reason of her own felt "close" to me (even though I had met her only recently)and felt that I should know. So, it is safe to say that for 2 loooooooooooong hours I was on an emotional roller coaster, in the worst condition ever (tipsy), in the worst environment to be in to find out "bad" news from SOMEONE else. I looked like the stupid emo girl crying over something. Complete humiliation comes to mind when I think about that night. It became this he-said-she-said by the end of the night.
So, my conversation tonight was clarification on everything that's been said by all parties. Well, apparently a lot of my words and his words were twisted by his friend's crush. It was apparent, that he was LIVID that so many things were twisted and was even more LIVID that his friend told the crush knowing that the crush would tell me. Well here's where he pops out "I might have to cut ties with everyone, including you. I feel so frustrated with how this went; I intended to talk with you and only you about it but it went around in circles and things were twisted. I need the dust to settle." This is where my jawdrops because I felt like I was being punished for drama I didn't instigate nor wanted. Actually I would have much rather he told me about his decision before he left and especially before I started drinking.
Ok, some back story. I haven't mentioned it but the events that happened before the "let's just be friends" speech of his was chaotic and too drama filled even for me. He actually told his friend that he would tell me in the morning that he wanted to just be friends. This is when Libra basically left the party for 2 hours. He trusted this friend to keep his mouth shut because his original intention was to tell me one on one. However, this friend of his told his crush about it. His friend's crush felt inclined to tell me because she, for whatever reason of her own felt "close" to me (even though I had met her only recently)and felt that I should know. So, it is safe to say that for 2 loooooooooooong hours I was on an emotional roller coaster, in the worst condition ever (tipsy), in the worst environment to be in to find out "bad" news from SOMEONE else. I looked like the stupid emo girl crying over something. Complete humiliation comes to mind when I think about that night. It became this he-said-she-said by the end of the night.
So, my conversation tonight was clarification on everything that's been said by all parties. Well, apparently a lot of my words and his words were twisted by his friend's crush. It was apparent, that he was LIVID that so many things were twisted and was even more LIVID that his friend told the crush knowing that the crush would tell me. Well here's where he pops out "I might have to cut ties with everyone, including you. I feel so frustrated with how this went; I intended to talk with you and only you about it but it went around in circles and things were twisted. I need the dust to settle." This is where my jawdrops because I felt like I was being punished for drama I didn't instigate nor wanted. Actually I would have much rather he told me about his decision before he left and especially before I started drinking.
Well anyway, I told him how I felt about being cut out because his friend wanted to open his mouth knowing what that would entail and that cutting me off would severely wound me especially since I've considered his want for friendship. He deflected at this point but when we got back to topic I asked him if he was really considering cutting me off. He said no he wasn't. I'm a little doubtful about this considering his wishy washy-ness the past week.
Posted by TasteOfChaos
Maybe you embarrassed him?
Libras care what other people think of them...
Your behaviour reflects on him...
ToC... I was wondering--would this suggest that Libra's decisions can be skewed by other people's opinions? Just curious.
Posted by amethyst2002
One, you probably embarrassed the fuck out of him by behaving like that. It had him slamming on the brakes and thinking, "whoa. What am I getting myself into?"
Two, yes, their decisions CAN be skewed by other people's opinions. I've seen it 589354 times with a majority of the Libras that I know. Blame those scales.
But overall, I'd say that your behavior made him second guess going down that road with you. If you embarrass a Libra guy in front of his friends, yeeah. Does not win you brownie points at all.
So True. I dated a libra a few years ago. My best friend died and I acted a bit crazy( crying most of the time and got a bit depressed) and instead of being there for me. He decided that he doesn't want me anymore.... Because of my behaviour.
But when his mom died , he was allowed to mourn her . And when I told him when I acted like that he didn't want me, because I was acting emotional. So, is he the only one allowed to have feelings.He responded that he also didn't want me becaus I dated a rich older man(16 years older then me)2 years before him.Mean while he was sleeping with a married woman.
It took a long time to get over him. But thank God that I am.Because I do not want someone the have double standards.
yep...fastest way to loose a Libra..just make a scene, be loud, be obnoxious.
And only we are allowed to flirt.. cuz we know what we are doing..
And only we are allowed to flirt.. cuz we know what we are doing..
Posted by KingofLibras
I must say there is truth to the appearances. It even surprises you sometimes just how you may feel about someone after you've seen them in 'action'. They may claim to just unwind and go loose, but really its a reflection of something they will do again, maybe even more intensely in the future, lack of inhibition in an otherwise non-ecstasy taking individual. I mean sure when an Aries does it, you sort of go like 'oh thats hot' or saggis or any number of the slutty signs out there (pisces?) Although in pisces defense they can't really say no. Or just dominate anyone. They are like a doormat, you spot one, approach, dominate, do your thing, and move on. Of course they will never forget how awesome you were, but who cares?
Wow...really? I can easily say no and I do. I am also not a doormat so maybe you are speaking of downstream Pisces or ones that are not evolved but don't lump us all into the "slutty doormat" group. 😉
Maybe the guy is insecure and can't handle someone who is outgoing and friendly b/c he thinks you will easily find someone else. I think that is a poor excuse to toss your relationship out when he knows who you are and likes those parts of your personality. But look at it this way, do you really want to be with someone who isn't going to accept ALL of you for who you are or will you have to walk on eggshells with him in social situations? That could really suck actually.
Posted by StpatrickspiscesPosted by KingofLibras
I must say there is truth to the appearances. It even surprises you sometimes just how you may feel about someone after you've seen them in 'action'. They may claim to just unwind and go loose, but really its a reflection of something they will do again, maybe even more intensely in the future, lack of inhibition in an otherwise non-ecstasy taking individual. I mean sure when an Aries does it, you sort of go like 'oh thats hot' or saggis or any number of the slutty signs out there (pisces?) Although in pisces defense they can't really say no. Or just dominate anyone. They are like a doormat, you spot one, approach, dominate, do your thing, and move on. Of course they will never forget how awesome you were, but who cares?
Wow...really? I can easily say no and I do. I am also not a doormat so maybe you are speaking of downstream Pisces or ones that are not evolved but don't lump us all into the "slutty doormat" group. 😉
Maybe the guy is insecure and can't handle someone who is outgoing and friendly b/c he thinks you will easily find someone else. I think that is a poor excuse to toss your relationship out when he knows who you are and likes those parts of your personality. But look at it this way, do you really want to be with someone who isn't going to accept ALL of you for who you are or will you have to walk on eggshells with him in social situations? That could really suck actually.click to expand
THANK YOU! This whole thing had me reevaluating myself. However, those who personally know me KNOW that I have a flamboyant personality when I'm with good company. I wouldn't have been so social if it was in a club for instance--this would require me to keep my guard up for creepers. But since the setting was in his friend's house with both his and his friend's friend, I was able to be more at ease and let loose. I have many acquaintances for this reason, but I try to keep very few close friends. That inner ring usually sees the real me. He's seen the more sensitive me, which says something because I never want anyone to see the "fragile" more "vulnerable" me. Further, I've allowed him to see the romantic side of me also. This side of me, I guard very closely because I know how hard I can love someone. So, I thought about it and realized I kn
But then again.... My rising is Libra. And I don't know much about what that means other than it's how people perceive me upon first meeting me.
Posted by KingofLibrasPosted by StpatrickspiscesPosted by KingofLibras
I must say there is truth to the appearances. It even surprises you sometimes just how you may feel about someone after you've seen them in 'action'. They may claim to just unwind and go loose, but really its a reflection of something they will do again, maybe even more intensely in the future, lack of inhibition in an otherwise non-ecstasy taking individual. I mean sure when an Aries does it, you sort of go like 'oh thats hot' or saggis or any number of the slutty signs out there (pisces?) Although in pisces defense they can't really say no. Or just dominate anyone. They are like a doormat, you spot one, approach, dominate, do your thing, and move on. Of course they will never forget how awesome you were, but who cares?
Wow...really? I can easily say no and I do. I am also not a doormat so maybe you are speaking of downstream Pisces or ones that are not evolved but don't lump us all into the "slutty doormat" group. 😉
Maybe the guy is insecure and can't handle someone who is outgoing and friendly b/c he thinks you will easily find someone else. I think that is a poor excuse to toss your relationship out when he knows who you are and likes those parts of your personality. But look at it this way, do you really want to be with someone who isn't going to accept ALL of you for who you are or will you have to walk on eggshells with him in social situations? That could really suck actually.
Hokay.. wow. really?! A redhead pisces chick with a moon in scorpio.. if there ever was a birthchart that screamed 'fuck me now' its yours honey. And by the way, nice skirt, easy ingress and egress, i like.click to expand
You are very offensive. Don't make judgments on me b/c of a costume and a funny picture with a close friend of mine. A woman can want to feel sexy without having sex with every Tom, Dick or Harry. I choose my partners and I CHOOSE when to say yes and when to say no. Did a Pisces woman do a number on you or what? You don't know me at all so maybe you shouldn't assume things about people you don't know on a personal level especially just based on my birth chart. I was celibate for 7 years in my twenties and was in an 8 year relationship and
never cheated. Like I said earlier, you shouldn't lump all Pisces women into the "slutty doormat" category. Some people can have certain morals and self control that could override their natal chart.
Thank you all for your perspective.
The fact of the matter is, he passed judgment on me. If it was a stranger it wouldn't have mattered much. However, he is someone I have known for exactly 7 years and 8 months. Of which 6 of those months we were romantically involved. There was no need to question my intentions. He said he had my back and that I did not need walls against him. If walls were needed, he would be my wall; my guard or shield and let nothing pass him. (You guys are awfully romantic ahahaha). If his family and friends had swayed his feelings for me that night, then it's obvious-- that night, he did not have my back. It was a very humiliating thing for me to be caught in a situation like that.
I'm going to stand my ground and decided that the way he handled the situation was a douche bag move. I'm not saying he's a douche bag and I don't hate him. But I have to be fair to all my close friends and do what I would do if it had been another close friend, which is keep myself at a distance. Go M.I.A-status on him. If he wants friendship, then he must initiate it. Friendship in my case must be earned and proven because I know the extent I would go for for a close friend.
So thank you all for your insights. He became fickle, somewhere in the timeframe he became uncertain. And right now, I don't need to be with someone who is uncertain of what they want when I am certain of what I want, at least currently. But here's a nod to you Libras--- My other Libra friend sent me a text unexpectedly earlier today reading:
" Someone will come along and SEE the softness in you. =)"
The fact of the matter is, he passed judgment on me. If it was a stranger it wouldn't have mattered much. However, he is someone I have known for exactly 7 years and 8 months. Of which 6 of those months we were romantically involved. There was no need to question my intentions. He said he had my back and that I did not need walls against him. If walls were needed, he would be my wall; my guard or shield and let nothing pass him. (You guys are awfully romantic ahahaha). If his family and friends had swayed his feelings for me that night, then it's obvious-- that night, he did not have my back. It was a very humiliating thing for me to be caught in a situation like that.
I'm going to stand my ground and decided that the way he handled the situation was a douche bag move. I'm not saying he's a douche bag and I don't hate him. But I have to be fair to all my close friends and do what I would do if it had been another close friend, which is keep myself at a distance. Go M.I.A-status on him. If he wants friendship, then he must initiate it. Friendship in my case must be earned and proven because I know the extent I would go for for a close friend.
So thank you all for your insights. He became fickle, somewhere in the timeframe he became uncertain. And right now, I don't need to be with someone who is uncertain of what they want when I am certain of what I want, at least currently. But here's a nod to you Libras--- My other Libra friend sent me a text unexpectedly earlier today reading:
" Someone will come along and SEE the softness in you. =)"
seriously, this has nothing to do with you making a scene or him having different standards. the simple fact is that libras like attention and need attention, and you gave your attention to other people instead of him, and now he's all butthurt. but he can't be honest about it, because it'll seem really petty. libras don't like to admit to how needy we are, because then you can use it against us. we want you to dote on us because you want to, not because we told you to. if we have to say it, it doesn't count. on the upside, most libras have no problem at all telling you exactly which brand 800 count egyptian cotton bedsheets we want for our birthday, so at least you don't have to mindread all the time.
psh. stpatrickpisces has posted in the libra forum a bunch, and she's really cool, and one of the few non-libras here who is nice to us, so you can go fuck yourself dude.
Posted by KingofLibras
Hey thats terrific. No wait, I don't care. This is not the pisces forum, this is the libra forum and as far as I'm concerned.. this is MY house!
psh. stpatrickpisces has posted in the libra forum a bunch, and she's really cool, and one of the few non-libras here who is nice to us, so you can go fuck yourself dude.
seeing red: i dare you to ask him straight up if he wanted you to spend more time with him instead of socializing with other people. he might not admit it outright, but he will get really obviously upset.
libra is the easiest fucking sign to manipulate. all you have to do is show us attention, and we'll be wrapped around your finger. i don't know why people make it so complicated.
libra is the easiest fucking sign to manipulate. all you have to do is show us attention, and we'll be wrapped around your finger. i don't know why people make it so complicated.
keep telling yourself that.
Curious Visitor, I will when he ends his disappearing act. The disappearing act allows me to think about what happened, see any holes in his arguments. He's very good with his word play, he shut me down a couple of times. But when I start seeing holes in arguments, that's when I can confidently say something without sounding like an irrational woman. I'm assuming he's not going to contact me for awhile despite the fact that he wanted to be "friends". He seemed livid and was threatening dropping me along with his friend and friend's friend who told me about his plans. And I wasn't too confident when he said he wont cut me out so he can process things. I told him punishing me for something that I did not do, would be unfair. And if he drops me, I could not guarantee friendship with him when he returns. SO, gave him fair warning. ::shrug:: I know Libras don't like being made to feel guilty but, that's real talk.
I haven't dealt with a Cancer but... I'm sorry but the FISH hands down best manipulators. My bff of 17 years have proven time after time that she is ahead of the game. When I have a Plan A and B, she has a Plan A,B,C,D.....Z. Thankfully, i know her well enough to know when she's using her manipulation techniques on me. Sometimes I let it go--sometimes I'm like "uuhhh nice try. but no."
And nah Libras are easy to manipulate. I mean ya'll admitted that the opinions of others matter to you right? If that's true then, it would be quite easy to manipulate you.
And nah Libras are easy to manipulate. I mean ya'll admitted that the opinions of others matter to you right? If that's true then, it would be quite easy to manipulate you.
Ahahahah wsigaf. Let me re-phrase. Libras are easier to "manipulate" when you're in the friend level. Figuring you guys/girls as a romantic partner---not so much. There seems to be less things you share when you're involved. And I can understand the reason for this-- there is more at stake when the heart is in it.
@Beloved--- I've made a decision; and usually that decision is solid. Ya'll know how Taurus' are 😉.
@Beloved--- I've made a decision; and usually that decision is solid. Ya'll know how Taurus' are 😉.
my experiences with cancer and pisces prove that they are quite difficult to manipulate, but they sure are good at seeming vulnerable, which is how they manipulated me into falling for them so easily. that and all the ass kissing.
the problem is that libras seem difficult to manipulate because people try to trick us and play games with us. which doesn't work much at all. it's like offering gold to someone who wants food. you're dealing in the wrong currency. libras can be manipulated by flattery and attention. that's our currency. we see right through smooth talkers, unless their smooth talk involves "wow, i can't believe you like me, i thought you were out of my league" in which case libra becomes that person's bitch, to manipulate as they please.
luckily, no one listens to this, so libras will continue to be fairly safe. how many times do people come here asking how to manipulate a libra man? we tell them not to play games, to just be sweet, libra will get hooked. then they come back saying their games didn't work and being a bitch didn't make him fall at her feet, therefore libras are impossible to understand. lol. if you meet us on our own level, we're the easiest sign. it's just that nobody ever does that. they always make it too complicated.
but i guess that technically cancers and pisces are pretty easy to manipulate if you meet them at their level. all signs are. i just have a hard time calling a guy names and slapping him around to get him to love me. lol. no wonder my cancer stalker took so long to get rid of.
the problem is that libras seem difficult to manipulate because people try to trick us and play games with us. which doesn't work much at all. it's like offering gold to someone who wants food. you're dealing in the wrong currency. libras can be manipulated by flattery and attention. that's our currency. we see right through smooth talkers, unless their smooth talk involves "wow, i can't believe you like me, i thought you were out of my league" in which case libra becomes that person's bitch, to manipulate as they please.
luckily, no one listens to this, so libras will continue to be fairly safe. how many times do people come here asking how to manipulate a libra man? we tell them not to play games, to just be sweet, libra will get hooked. then they come back saying their games didn't work and being a bitch didn't make him fall at her feet, therefore libras are impossible to understand. lol. if you meet us on our own level, we're the easiest sign. it's just that nobody ever does that. they always make it too complicated.
but i guess that technically cancers and pisces are pretty easy to manipulate if you meet them at their level. all signs are. i just have a hard time calling a guy names and slapping him around to get him to love me. lol. no wonder my cancer stalker took so long to get rid of.
I see what you mean. Too often women play games. Some do it deliberately; some do it unknowingly until it's too late. It's part of how women were brought up too. How many times have I heard from my mother " Do not let the guy know how much you love him. A woman is meant to be chased for her worth." Now, it's good to protect one's self but, those words can easily be looked at as play with the man's heart until you know.
CV--- I didn't play games with this one; I can honestly say I was open from the very last minute of everything. Even when he asked me to step back with him and take it slower; I did so. I knew his past and understood where he was coming from. He got married very young (yeh I know). He jumped into that just basing it on his momentary feelings. It crumbled in 4 months. I got a call from him when the papers were being drawn. I basically found out he got married and getting a divorce all after "Hello, it's been awhile. Can you listen to me?" I listened to him vent about his mistakes and helped him as best as I could. He wanted to step back because all his other relationships he took very fast (obviously). He remained single for 1 year and 8 months.
But anyway, he assured that taking a step back did not mean him feeling less for me; but it was a way for him to do this right. I believed him even though I was becoming insecure. But I respected his decision and still made effort despite his lack of verbal affection. His actions showed differently when I saw him; and for me that assured me that everything was alright. Somewhere down the line, there was a disconnect. I believe he was wavering on me when I left for my business conference. Then when I returned and went to the Halloween party--- he finalized his decision.
Oh btw, I don't know if I've mentioned but; the only reason he began thinking of taking it slow, is because his older had mentioned how fast the relationship was going. I don't blame her, she watched her little brother make a stupid decision, and from what I understand, she did not tell him anything when he decided to get married. So, for me she decided to step in and put her .02 in.
Like I said before, I don't hate him nor do I think he's a jerk. He pulled a jerk move but not a jerk. I really believe that fear consumed him--and had to leave. His reasons were baseless, therefore they were excuses. Your talk of currency? I had that handled. Trust me.
CV--- I didn't play games with this one; I can honestly say I was open from the very last minute of everything. Even when he asked me to step back with him and take it slower; I did so. I knew his past and understood where he was coming from. He got married very young (yeh I know). He jumped into that just basing it on his momentary feelings. It crumbled in 4 months. I got a call from him when the papers were being drawn. I basically found out he got married and getting a divorce all after "Hello, it's been awhile. Can you listen to me?" I listened to him vent about his mistakes and helped him as best as I could. He wanted to step back because all his other relationships he took very fast (obviously). He remained single for 1 year and 8 months.
But anyway, he assured that taking a step back did not mean him feeling less for me; but it was a way for him to do this right. I believed him even though I was becoming insecure. But I respected his decision and still made effort despite his lack of verbal affection. His actions showed differently when I saw him; and for me that assured me that everything was alright. Somewhere down the line, there was a disconnect. I believe he was wavering on me when I left for my business conference. Then when I returned and went to the Halloween party--- he finalized his decision.
Oh btw, I don't know if I've mentioned but; the only reason he began thinking of taking it slow, is because his older had mentioned how fast the relationship was going. I don't blame her, she watched her little brother make a stupid decision, and from what I understand, she did not tell him anything when he decided to get married. So, for me she decided to step in and put her .02 in.
Like I said before, I don't hate him nor do I think he's a jerk. He pulled a jerk move but not a jerk. I really believe that fear consumed him--and had to leave. His reasons were baseless, therefore they were excuses. Your talk of currency? I had that handled. Trust me.
hmmm... Cunning is the polite mask of manipulate. 😉 lol I always thought that cunning had a positive connotation. ::shrug::
No, I have 3 other real friends. But this Libra definitely held 2nd to the longest friendship I have. Pisces= 17 years; Libra = 7.8 years; the other two Libras = 4.5years (college ahaha)
yes you can manipulate us libras coz we let you....just make sure you awakes 24/7 to notice we're flipping it coz if noot then you're deep shit and go posting again in dxp.
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