What is my Libra ex boyfriend ACTUALLY thinking and feeling?

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I'm a Leo, the (recent) ex boyfriend is a Libra.

We met online. Started e-mailing back and forth daily for about 3 months. Then we went to text/phone calls for about a month, then started actually dating three months ago. So I guess you could say that we were only actually together for the three months.

He is 31, I am 32. Our relationship became VERY serious, very quickly. We were both (or so I thought) very up front with each other from the very beginning about what we wanted. Marriage, Kids, Serious Relationship, no B.S. Here are some things about him really quickly- Things about him:

He literally had not dated anyone before me. He had only had sex with one female before me, and he said it was forced (by her), and he hated it, so figured that he would be single and stayed away from women due to that experience. He's sort of a dork, which honestly I found quite charming- and still do. FYI? After reading about Libra's on these message boards? He is a straight up Libra! He fits the bill to an absolute CAPITAL T.

He was super attentive, generous, introduced me to his family, I got along with his fam extremely well, and he my family. I knew all of his close friends well, because he made me included within about a couple of weeks of dating each other. I reciprocated and he was also brought into my life ten fold. And then? Sha-bam! What happened? He became extremely cold, distant, and like he really didn't care about me.

I was still involved in his life, with his friends, etc. I wasn't taken out on dates, but still hanging with the fam, and things like that. I started to try to speak with him about this, and let him know that I felt that something was 'off' and wanted to know what we can do to correct what ever the issues were so that we could move forward. Him, completely ignored it and shut me out. He was physically there, going through all of the motions, (the weirdest part is I could tell his family was starting to adore me and bring me closer as he was getting further away).

But, a few indicators that I could tell that something was seriously wrong:

- He stopped complimenting me all together.
- He started saying below the belt comments to me that were super passive aggressive.
- He played the role of the 'good guy' that everyone steps all over extremely well (HUGE victim mentality with this one by the way)
- I told him I loved him and he didn't reciprocate (which I actually thought was totally fine because he just said that he wasn't ready yet)
- He started getting super dodgy about plans. Would tell me, "Next weekends not going to work", even though he wasn't actually doing anything.
- The sex was 'not so hot'. He could only last for like, a minute- and he preferred that we had foreplay, or not do anything at all. His excuse? "I have a low sex drive I guess", lol, B.S>

I mean, what can i say.... The list goes on and on to that regard......

I finally got fed up.
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Posted by lavaliquid
I dont know what he is feeling or thinking, but he soinds horrible and little boy-ish.
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Lol, I know it Lavaliquid- and frankly? I'm feeling pretty Girl-ish for falling for the crap he pulled on me for that amount of time. As you mentioned, moving right along. I mean, I could be friends with the guy, but I'm talking ACQUAINTANCE friends. Not, B.S. friends where I'm busy stroking his ego while I could be out there looking for the person I'm supposed to be with.
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After reading the post-

Dear, you said you read everything and he fits Libras to a T, so what do you want to know? He's done everything that everyone and their dog has had an issue with that comes to the Libra forum for advice on.

He moved in too fast, the magic 3 month mark passed and he's out as quickly as he went in. YOU'RE just as guilty for dropping the L word in 3 months and going all gung ho like he did. Seems to happen to Leo women a lot. They stupidly fall for this garbage and then are mystified when he changes just as fast? Anyone who is sane knows that moving that fast is crazy and unstable.

So what is there to know? What's he thinking? He changed his mind and is moving on without you. Sorry you fell for the immature Libra male bullshit, but you should move along as well.
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Posted by lavaliquid
I dont know what he is feeling or thinking, but he soinds horrible and little boy-ish.
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Lol, I know it Lavaliquid- and frankly? I'm feeling pretty Girl-ish for falling for the crap he pulled on me for that amount of time. As you mentioned, moving right along. I mean, I could be friends with the guy, but I'm talking ACQUAINTANCE friends. Not, B.S. friends where I'm busy stroking his ego while I could be out there looking for the person I'm supposed to be with.
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I think we've heard this line from every single Leo female who has come to the Libra forum with the same story.

...it's actually really interesting and a bit creepy at the same time.
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Posted by lavaliquid
I dont know what he is feeling or thinking, but he soinds horrible and little boy-ish.
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Lol, I know it Lavaliquid- and frankly? I'm feeling pretty Girl-ish for falling for the crap he pulled on me for that amount of time. As you mentioned, moving right along. I mean, I could be friends with the guy, but I'm talking ACQUAINTANCE friends. Not, B.S. friends where I'm busy stroking his ego while I could be out there looking for the person I'm supposed to be with.
I think we've heard this line from every single Leo female who has come to the Libra forum with the same story.

...it's actually really interesting and a bit creepy at the same time.
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Lol,


Hearing you on this time line....Yep. Creepy but pretty hilarious @ the meme time. And actually quite comforting. So- egh- it appens I guess.
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Posted by utopian
Maybe this lack of bedroom skill has pushed him away from you. Every Libra wants what you want (satisfaction generally) and he couldn't live up to it.

His passive aggression is a trademark indication to break free from you. To do you a favor. Either or.

Unless there were fights you haven't brought up between you 2.
Hmmm utopian,

Now that's definitely something that I have not thought of at all. You have brought up (aside from the bedroom situation) an enticing situation in regard to dear male Libra that I wouldn't have entertained.....

So are you saying that the 'passive aggressive' is a norm | regular with the Libra's, or is this an indication from what you have read from my posting?

Also, when you say, "To do you a favor"- what are you meaning by this?
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Posted by utopian
Maybe this lack of bedroom skill has pushed him away from you. Every Libra wants what you want (satisfaction generally) and he couldn't live up to it.

His passive aggression is a trademark indication to break free from you. To do you a favor. Either or.

Unless there were fights you haven't brought up between you 2.
Nope with the passive aggressive thing w | him, he just does that when I bring (PAST TENSE) brough anything up. Then, when I would repeat like 3 times and be like, "Uh, can you hear me? we are literally sitting a foot away from each other" (the deflecting got that bad, YEP), he would go into conversation mode. But he never really was actually listening to what I was saying.

It was more like, "Yes, I-am-here. Please let-this-robot-know=what-you-need". Dunno, it just became super annoying. Also? I'm not 70 yet. I still have some pep in my step. So I want to make sure I'm utilizing that. dammit. This guy has been wasting valuable (meet men that actually give-a-shit) time. LOL!

Lol, Sorry but I'm 32, and a go-getter. Can't waist valuable time. I'm super worried that I have to do this whole thing where I'm using energy to have to do the "AW, where's Vince?", and I have to let them down.

I know- he has to do the same thing w his fam 😢 Sucks but he unintentionally fucking used me and is not even remorseful about it.
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Posted by MiZLeo
Is his moon in cancer or pisces or Virgo or something? I've never experienced this kind of behaviour from a Libra. I know they can be a bit stoic but that's about it. Stop hanging with his family so much. Take a breather and go do something else.
Though the moon "can" play a part but I doubt it given what she and so many others including myself have been through. Mine had a moon in Scorpio, so if the moon plays a part, why are there so many other signs with a Scorpio moon and they don't do this? This is such a common Libra trait and one has to experience it themselves in order to know. Rocky is right when she said it's the "three month trial period." Ironically, mine was also three months to the day. It's fucked up and some may use any weak excuse they can find and some just disappear without any reason whatsoever as quickly as they originally pursued you. The funny thing is, a month or so will pass, and you will find them trying to follow up on you. Not contacting you direct per-see but almost like stalking you in an odd way (mine signs into Google Hangouts -and they never used to do that until I removed them from Skype). If I were you, I would cut ties with common friends and family so he has no clue what you're doing.
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I am extremely sorry to say this. BUT we libra's are fickle minded at times. Once we think, we got what we wanted. We tend to become indecisive. This is exactly whats happening to him. I just wish he talks to you about his feelings and emotions. He is thoroughly loosing interest at present. YOU REALLY NEED TO TALK TO HIM. I would say if you make us talk, we will talk to you about it. You need to ask him , whats the matter. If need be, pressurize him to tell you whats going on. You have the right to ask him after all he is seeing you as his would be wife. No games need to be played.

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Posted by shuba
I am extremely sorry to say this. BUT we libra's are fickle minded at times. Once we think, we got what we wanted. We tend to become indecisive. This is exactly whats happening to him. I just wish he talks to you about his feelings and emotions. He is thoroughly loosing interest at present. YOU REALLY NEED TO TALK TO HIM. I would say if you make us talk, we will talk to you about it. You need to ask him , whats the matter. If need be, pressurize him to tell you whats going on. You have the right to ask him after all he is seeing you as his would be wife. No games need to be played.
lol good luck getting an answer!
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Posted by MiZLeo
Is his moon in cancer or pisces or Virgo or something? I've never experienced this kind of behaviour from a Libra. I know they can be a bit stoic but that's about it. Stop hanging with his family so much. Take a breather and go do something else.



You know I'm not sure but I'm definitely going to go find out. Also, I should've clarified on the family thing. I only saw his family with him present and in the situation. Never saw them once on my own. We just got along extremely well. Also, I called him and left a voicemail (starting to feel like it's probably or possibly the last call that will ever be made to him) on the 17th letting him know that he is an awesome guy, but I've got to keep moving. That I know what i'm looking for, and that he has been made VERY aware of that.

I let him know that I can't be there to just 'stroke is ego', but if he ever wanted to re consider a relationship that he knows my number, and who knows, maybe I might be available.
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Posted by MiZLeo
Is his moon in cancer or pisces or Virgo or something? I've never experienced this kind of behaviour from a Libra. I know they can be a bit stoic but that's about it. Stop hanging with his family so much. Take a breather and go do something else.
Though the moon "can" play a part but I doubt it given what she and so many others including myself have been through. Mine had a moon in Scorpio, so if the moon plays a part, why are there so many other signs with a Scorpio moon and they don't do this? This is such a common Libra trait and one has to experience it themselves in order to know. Rocky is right when she said it's the "three month trial period." Ironically, mine was also three months to the day. It's fucked up and some may use any weak excuse they can find and some just disappear without any reason whatsoever as quickly as they originally pursued you. The funny thing is, a month or so will pass, and you will find them trying to follow up on you. Not contacting you direct per-see but almost like stalking you in an odd way (mine signs into Google Hangouts -and they never used to do that until I removed them from Skype). If I were you, I would cut ties with common friends and family so he has no clue what you're doing.
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Woah gemguyaz34, what you said is earily familiar and it hasn't even happened yet. For some reason, I can just see him doing that. Time-wise, it was seriously almost down to the day on the 3 months thing too.

Our first date was on July 4th, the Sh** hit the fan October 5th (a day before his birthday, which I almost felt bad about until I saw his true colors)
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Posted by MiZLeo
Is his moon in cancer or pisces or Virgo or something? I've never experienced this kind of behaviour from a Libra. I know they can be a bit stoic but that's about it. Stop hanging with his family so much. Take a breather and go do something else.
Though the moon "can" play a part but I doubt it given what she and so many others including myself have been through. Mine had a moon in Scorpio, so if the moon plays a part, why are there so many other signs with a Scorpio moon and they don't do this? This is such a common Libra trait and one has to experience it themselves in order to know. Rocky is right when she said it's the "three month trial period." Ironically, mine was also three months to the day. It's fucked up and some may use any weak excuse they can find and some just disappear without any reason whatsoever as quickly as they originally pursued you. The funny thing is, a month or so will pass, and you will find them trying to follow up on you. Not contacting you direct per-see but almost like stalking you in an odd way (mine signs into Google Hangouts -and they never used to do that until I removed them from Skype). If I were you, I would cut ties with common friends and family so he has no clue what you're doing.
Woah gemguyaz34, what you said is earily familiar and it hasn't even happened yet. For some reason, I can just see him doing that. Time-wise, it was seriously almost down to the day on the 3 months thing too.

Our first date was on July 4th, the Sh** hit the fan October 5th (a day before his birthday, which I almost felt bad about until I saw his true colors)
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mmm hmm and I might add, you would swear they recognized their mistake during their "silent time" but because they dread confrontation they choose to still avoid speaking to you. This is where I feel I am at from what I am observing.
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Posted by shuba
I am extremely sorry to say this. BUT we libra's are fickle minded at times. Once we think, we got what we wanted. We tend to become indecisive. This is exactly whats happening to him. I just wish he talks to you about his feelings and emotions. He is thoroughly loosing interest at present. YOU REALLY NEED TO TALK TO HIM. I would say if you make us talk, we will talk to you about it. You need to ask him , whats the matter. If need be, pressurize him to tell you whats going on. You have the right to ask him after all he is seeing you as his would be wife. No games need to be played.
Thanks for this feedback shuba,

Ya. He has definitely lost interest. I did 'have the talk' with him. He actually seemed pretty eager to get on the phone call. Now I know why. It happened on the 16th, and then I called and left him a 'I thought about it and I'm not putting up with your bullshit' voicemail on the 17th. lol. I'm not going to be contacting him, and I haven't heard from him either. So yes, I am pretty sure you are correct on that one. Via our 'break up' phone call, he basically said, "I just don't think we are compatible". He also continuously spoke about 'us' in the past tense, and it sounded like he pretty much had his mind made up. I'm pretty sure that this guy used the break up call (which lasted for hours on end) as a way to make me feel as shitty as possible by the way.

He was also VERY adamant that he wasn't going to see other people and didn't feel like he needed to.

Do you know what he said to me? He said, "But don't worry, I'll still be your friend. It's okay for you to call me. Be sure to do so, I promise I will still pick up.". Um...... Was he fucking kidding me? Like, really? What a jerk. I couldn't believe that he had a huge enough head to say something like that. He also said a whole bunch of other things to that manner that were just completely crass and horrible, but of COURSE, he said them with a nice polite tone..... You know, because he's always the nice guy! I swear it was like he was getting more and more excited with the misery he was putting out my way on that phone call. I am still pissed that he was able to make me cry in that moment.

Honestly though? The guy couldn't have done me a bigger favor. What a jerk. No games should've been played, but that's exactly what he did. He played with me like I was a toy. I'm not a toy, I'm a Leo Female that will not put up with crap like that. He's lucky he got to have me for the time that he did. Honestly- what a manipulative prick
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How much time were you two spending together?



Hi Sugarfoot,

He and I were spending every weekend, all weekend together. I would go to his house and stay there for about a 3-4 day stint. His sister and her boyfriend would also stay there at times, and we would all have a great time.....
Also a case of too much too soon. Next time (with any guy), pace yourself. Air signs especially need more space. I had a feeling that you were spending too much time together when you posted about you talking and he pretending to listen but he wasn't. That says to me, "I want her to be quiet. I wish I was by myself".

He didn't have a chance to miss you and when you were around he tired of you quickly. They'll start taking you for granted and not valuing you or your time.

It's not good to be too available with men so quickly. There's something to be said about the phrase, "Absence makes the heart grow fonder."
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Wow thank you so much Sugarfoot! That was very refreshing to read! I really appreciate this advice. And you are right, I'm a 32 year old woman. Honestly I'm pretty annoyed with myself for falling for it the way I did
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It's really disheartening when you deal with this crap from ANY guy. You're always hearing these disparaging remarks toward women and their catty and manipulative ways, but guys are just as bad, if not worse.

You have these immature assholes who are out dating and proceed to behave like this- get all hot and bothered, pursue, want to practically wife you up after the third date, and once that magical 3 month mark occurs, he's changing his mind or claims incompatibility. The reality is he has no idea what he wants and is going around wreaking havoc on women's lives by feeding them fairy tales that he sees temporarily.

I've likened it to a 5 year old child who HAD to have THAT toy. They get it, play with it for a little bit, and toss it into the toy box, forgotten. That's essentially what you're dealing with when an immature Libra guy. This is so textbook and you can sit here and analyze what planet in what placement, but you can skim through pages of this stuff in the Libra forum and it's far too consistent and seems to just be a stupid man boy Libra move thing.

Real men don't do this shit. They don't go around treating women like commodities while dating. They essentially have "buyers remorse" all the time while dating when they should just stay at home and grow up a little first. As a whole, it just makes dating even that more complicated, tbh.

I remember with my ex, we'd only been dating a few weeks and he randomly asks if I have my visa, because he'd planned on going with our friends to the Philippines the next year and suggested that I get mine, implying I should be going with them.

Internally, my response was "what the hell??" Two weeks into dating and he's already making world travel plans with me? Slow your roll, dude. :/ Had I known then what I know now about Libra dudes, I likely would have kept him in check by NOT dating the guy, tbh.
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Rockyroadicecream,

I totally agree with you. It sickens me how well he was able to play the victim and the hero at the same time. The worst was how he somehow was able to make me feel bad for HIM for the way he was treating me. Not any more. Seriously your posts are helping me get over him quicker.

Question though, will this guy try to slither back eventually, or is he gone for good?
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I am extremely sorry to say this. BUT we libra's are fickle minded at times. Once we think, we got what we wanted. We tend to become indecisive. This is exactly whats happening to him. I just wish he talks to you about his feelings and emotions. He is thoroughly loosing interest at present. YOU REALLY NEED TO TALK TO HIM. I would say if you make us talk, we will talk to you about it. You need to ask him , whats the matter. If need be, pressurize him to tell you whats going on. You have the right to ask him after all he is seeing you as his would be wife. No games need to be played.
Thanks for this feedback shuba,

Ya. He has definitely lost interest. I did 'have the talk' with him. He actually seemed pretty eager to get on the phone call. Now I know why. It happened on the 16th, and then I called and left him a 'I thought about it and I'm not putting up with your bullshit' voicemail on the 17th. lol. I'm not going to be contacting him, and I haven't heard from him either. So yes, I am pretty sure you are correct on that one. Via our 'break up' phone call, he basically said, "I just don't think we are compatible". He also continuously spoke about 'us' in the past tense, and it sounded like he pretty much had his mind made up. I'm pretty sure that this guy used the break up call (which lasted for hours on end) as a way to make me feel as shitty as possible by the way.

He was also VERY adamant that he wasn't going to see other people and didn't feel like he needed to.

Do you know what he said to me? He said, "But don't worry, I'll still be your friend. It's okay for you to call me. Be sure to do so, I promise I will still pick up.". Um...... Was he fucking kidding me? Like, really? What a jerk. I couldn't believe that he had a huge enough head to say something like that. He also said a whole bunch of other things to that manner that were just completely crass and horrible, but of COURSE, he said them with a nice polite tone..... You know, because he's always the nice guy! I swear it was like he was getting more and more excited with the misery he was putting out my way on that phone call. I am still pissed that he was able to make me cry in that moment.

Honestly though? The guy couldn't have done me a bigger favor. What a jerk. No games should've been played, but that's exactly what he did. He played with me like I was a toy. I'm not a toy, I'm a Leo Female that will not put up with crap like that. He's lucky he got to have me for the time that he did. Honestly- what a manipulative prick
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I feel so bad even at reading this. But to be honest with you. We libran's really when doing things at times, just think of oursel
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Posted by Sugarfoot
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How much time were you two spending together?



Hi Sugarfoot,

He and I were spending every weekend, all weekend together. I would go to his house and stay there for about a 3-4 day stint. His sister and her boyfriend would also stay there at times, and we would all have a great time.....
Also a case of too much too soon. Next time (with any guy), pace yourself. Air signs especially need more space. I had a feeling that you were spending too much time together when you posted about you talking and he pretending to listen but he wasn't. That says to me, "I want her to be quiet. I wish I was by myself".

He didn't have a chance to miss you and when you were around he tired of you quickly. They'll start taking you for granted and not valuing you or your time.

It's not good to be too available with men so quickly. There's something to be said about the phrase, "Absence makes the heart grow fonder."
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Here are highlights from a book

Here’s a classic scenario. A guy just broke your heart in two, stomped on it, and walked away as if it was no big deal. A logical person would give him the finger and move on, but not emotional creatures like us. No way! We ask ourselves 100 times, “Why is he doing this to me?” We make a dozen different excuses as to why his behavior is forgivable. Then we plot out all of the ways we’re going to get him back. We even do all of this when we know he’s a piece of shit and we should let him go.We’ve all taken back men when we knew we shouldn’t have. We’re only trying to make ourselves feel better, so we end up making stupid decisions based on hurt feelings. However, if you can just control yourself, it will eventually go away. It takes some time. You have to occupy yourself and your mind until it goes away. Once the pain is gone, congratulate yourself! You’ve just utilized the power of controlling your emotions! This means you have the ability to walk away from any man for any reason! No man will ever have power or control over you or be able to use your emotions against you. This is a really BIG DEAL. DO NOT CALL HIM, DO NOT CONTACT HIM, LEAVE HIM ALONE FOREVER. He screwed up and now he must pay the consequence: He lost YOU.
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Controlling your emotions is also important when you meet or like a new guy. You know, like when you want to call him, text him, or leave comments on his Facebook page. Or when you’re waiting for him to call, like he said he would and so you decide to call him. You know you should just wait it out and let him come to you, but you’re dying to reach out to him. Don’t do it! Be patient. Control yourself. Always wait it out and always make
them come to you. If he doesn’t, that’s a SURE SIGN he doesn’t like you.


If a guy likes you, he WILL pursue you. If he doesn’t, then he doesn’t like you. No excuses. You’ll need to learn to accept this fact. Don’t pursue men. Control those emotions that urge you to go after men! It’s okay to flirt. Just don’t pursue. If he likes you, he’ll call. If he likes you, he’ll text. If he likes you, he’ll find ways to be around you. If he doesn’t, take it as his way of letting you know that he isn’t interested. Women should never have to put a lot effort into getting a man’s attention. If you’re not getting the responses, calls, texts, or attention you were hoping for, then forget about him. He most likely doesn’t like you, or he’d show it and you would know it.Read more at location 519

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Reason #1: Men hate it when they can’t see into your head. If you control your emotions for a new guy, you’re making him wonder if you like him or not. When he can’t figure it out, he’ll work harder. Suddenly, he’ll be the one calling and texting. He’ll be the one pursuing you, instead of the other way around. Read more at location 533
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Reason #2: Men only want you when you don’t want them. It’s all about the thrill of the hunt for a man. I know you’ve heard this before and probably think it’s just stupid bullshit games. To us, it’s stupid because we’re women, our brains are different. We think, “hey, if you like me, then be with me.”


Men aren’t like that. Men want to hunt. The thrill of the hunt gets a man interested much faster than calling him and leaving cute comments on his Facebook page. That’s just the way it is. The sooner you accept this, the better for you. Flirt with him, but control your urge to go after him and if he likes you, he’ll definitely come after you.

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Reason #3: Only fools rush in. As women, we get swept off our feet too easily. Don’t be so quick to like a new guy, especially one you just met or just started dating. Control those happy emotions that come so easily in the beginning of relationships. Don’t go on one or two dates with some guy and immediately start getting feelings for him or start thinking he’s the one. Slow down. Control yourself and play hard to get.
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And last highlight from Kindle

Whatever type of girl you may be and whatever your reasoning is, having sex with a guy you like is the absolute WRONG thing to do. The trick is DO NOT HAVE SEX. The less a man gets, the more a man wants. Men only want you when they can’t have you. Bottom line. I know it’s so stupid and you’re probably tired of hearing this. You may think, “If two people like each other, then what’s the problem?” Remember...these are men we’re dealing with!

I interviewed ten single men, ages 18-43, and asked a very specific question, “Why do guys act like they want a girl to give it up, but then treat her badly when she does?” Their answers were brutally honest. They simply said, “Men don’t love sluts.

The woman they really want is the one who rejects them. They want to get the girl that’s a challenge and doesn’t give it up easily. The girl that makes him wait for it, work for it, and chase after it. The woman he falls in love with is the exact opposite of a slut, because men don’t fall in love with sluts.


Men fall in love with ladies. Ladies who are mature enough to know they don’t have to have sex. Ladies who don’t even want to have sex quickly, because it’s an unladylike thing to do. The type of woman a man will love gives off a vibe that says loud and clear: “I’m not an easy girl and you’re going to have to put in some effort if you want a girl like me, because I’m very special.”
Make them wait, make them work, make them pay, and then they will love you, appreciate you, and take good care of you.
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Posted by Sugarfoot
Dxpnetuser you should make a thread in the relationship forum with those excerpts. So many women need to read them!

I agree with all of that. The part at the end is different from me though. I need to love my guy and know he loves me before we have sex.

I honestly think if more people waited until they had the emotion to back up the act, so much bull would be cut out of the dating scene.

I am not sure how to do that, but feel free if you chose too. The title of the Kindle book from Amazon.com is "The Power of the Yssup" The last word is spelled backwards.
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Posted by slinky222
Rockyroadicecream,

I totally agree with you. It sickens me how well he was able to play the victim and the hero at the same time. The worst was how he somehow was able to make me feel bad for HIM for the way he was treating me. Not any more. Seriously your posts are helping me get over him quicker.

Question though, will this guy try to slither back eventually, or is he gone for good?
They hate looking like the bad guy. There was an instance that I had to put my ex in his place for how immaturely he was treating me one night and I found out recently that he was telling all of our mutual friends lies about me that night because I'd essentially embarrassed him for being an inconsiderate asshole. It made me lol because it didn't really surprise me. Just added to the mile long list of fucked up qualities he ended up having in the long run.

He may try to come back, but overall, when the Libra calls it quits, they won't be coming back. The only come back around if they want something or feel that things aren't "done" in their book, aka you broke it off with them.

Chances are he's gone for good, but if he does come back around, it won't be for genuine reasons, just self centered reasons (getting laid, using you as a "fill in" during a dating/sex drought, etc).

I know it's rough getting out of these situations because they're so great at creating this lovely, delusional fairy tale in the beginning, only to turn into this terrible human being, leaving you wondering what the hell happened? But you just have to keep asking yourself, "do I really want to be with a fickle person in the long run? They change their mind THAT easily?" It doesn't make for a very stable partner or relationship, tbh. If they can drop you so easily and so quickly after regaling you with their rose colored glasses outlook on life, they aren't the most ideal partner, tbh.
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Posted by slinky222
Do you know what he said to me? He said, "But don't worry, I'll still be your friend. It's okay for you to call me. Be sure to do so, I promise I will still pick up."
This wasn't said for you, it was said for him to make HIM feel better about being the "bad guy" and breaking things off.

That's the thing about Libras, they go beyond sugar coating and say whatever the fuck to make themselves feel better about having to be the bearer of bad news. They don't think about what a mind fuck it is to you, just that THEY feel better about the situation. It's pretty fucking lame at times.

Regardless of sign, whenever a guy (or girl) says "we can still be friends" it's a load of shit.
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Posted by slinky222
He was physically there, going through all of the motions, (the weirdest part is I could tell his family was starting to adore me and bring me closer as he was getting further away).

But, a few indicators that I could tell that something was seriously wrong:

- He stopped complimenting me all together.
- He started saying below the belt comments to me that were super passive aggressive.
- He played the role of the 'good guy' that everyone steps all over extremely well (HUGE victim mentality with this one by the way)
- I told him I loved him and he didn't reciprocate (which I actually thought was totally fine because he just said that he wasn't ready yet)
- He started getting super dodgy about plans. Would tell me, "Next weekends not going to work", even though he wasn't actually doing anything.
- The sex was 'not so hot'. He could only last for like, a minute- and he preferred that we had foreplay, or not do anything at all. His excuse? "I have a low sex drive I guess", lol, B.S>

I mean, what can i say.... The list goes on and on to that regard......

I finally got fed up.
I'm so sorry, but it 100% sounds like he may be in the closet gay, no?
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Slinky, thank God you got rid of him! You really would like to give up passionate sex at 32?? No way.....

If he wouldn´t chickened out and everything was going perfectly, you would leave him out of boredom in 6-12 months, believe me..



About the book: it is a lot of butter🙂 🙂 you can have sex with a man and you can pursue a man..... just do it confidently, dont be an insecure emotional wreck...... this "slut" thing is coming from players, who sleep with lots of women and they want to marry a virgin🙂 🙂 who would want a man who thinks like this anyway?

(pursue a man: I dont mean by this calling him day and night, just normal human behaviour) the only thing I agree with the book, is control your emotions a bit, it is always a good thing, not only in dating
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Posted by slinky222
He was physically there, going through all of the motions, (the weirdest part is I could tell his family was starting to adore me and bring me closer as he was getting further away).

But, a few indicators that I could tell that something was seriously wrong:

- He stopped complimenting me all together.
- He started saying below the belt comments to me that were super passive aggressive.
- He played the role of the 'good guy' that everyone steps all over extremely well (HUGE victim mentality with this one by the way)
- I told him I loved him and he didn't reciprocate (which I actually thought was totally fine because he just said that he wasn't ready yet)
- He started getting super dodgy about plans. Would tell me, "Next weekends not going to work", even though he wasn't actually doing anything.
- The sex was 'not so hot'. He could only last for like, a minute- and he preferred that we had foreplay, or not do anything at all. His excuse? "I have a low sex drive I guess", lol, B.S>

I mean, what can i say.... The list goes on and on to that regard......

I finally got fed up.
I'm so sorry, but it 100% sounds like he may be in the closet gay, no?
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Ashlee1734 HO-LY-SHIT! I can't believe you just said that. The past two days, after speaking with my best friend, and a few of my gay friends, this is the EXACT conclusion that I have come to. I woke up yesterday morning with a whole bunch of memories that came rushing back to me that went..... Oh WOAH- wait a minute..... I see now!

Then I read some articles about this, as well as typed out a list of his super odd behavior, and he seriously hits the nail on the head about this. I now am not even a bit sad about the break up. Now I just sort of feel bad for him, knowing that he is living in his own hell. I think that if this really was the case, I wouldn't mind being his friend. But the thing is, I am not sure that he has even realized that this is what's happening inside himself yet.

The biggest indicator to me was his behavior with his 'best friend'. He seems super into him. I'm talking into him BIG TIME. Like, now that I have a clear head about everything, and haven't reached out or contacted him for a few days (nor will I for a while if ever again), all of the strange indicators of his internal battle with homosexuality have come rushing back to me. It's very odd because I have NEVER been in this situation before. And with the sex problems? Ya, never had a problem before until this guy.
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Posted by rockyroadicecream
Haha. Poor Libras always being pegged as gay.

Honesty thouh Rockyroadicecream, I am pretty sure that this is actually what's going on.

I am not sure how I didn't see it before, but there have been a LOT of things that I had not even payed attention to until the past couple of days- now looking at things from an outside perspective, it is VERY apparent that this is what was going on. I am a list person, so I am about to fire off some lists of indicators from my experiences that I CAN'T BELIEVE I missed!

This first list is about how strange his relationship with his best friend is. Like, VERY strange-

Why I think that Vince (the ex) is in love with or has strong feelings for Jacob (the best friend)- Here's 10 scenario's I put together that I could logically and clearly remember
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”¢ How he acted towards his best friend Jacob. He was very into him. Jacob would ‘sort of’ reciprocate, but there was definitely something a bit ‘off’ and strange going on with their relationship.

”¢ The weekend that we were going to his parents labor day party. The days leading up to it, and at the party, and days after the party, Vince was extremely focused on wanting Jacob to be there. He was sad that he hadn’t heard from Jacob. He kept calling him over and over without an answer. Finally, I decided to walk over there, and Jacob was clearly dodging Vince, because he was at his house when we got there and tried to be quiet and not answer the door.

”¢ Vince would always touch Jacob in very intimate ways. I remember a specific time when he went to pull a fuzzy off off of Jacobs shirt, and it was very ‘odd’ how openly he touched him in that way. I have gone to do that to Vince, and he would flinch and pull away from me.

”¢ It is VERY clear that Vince would do anything that Jacob asked him to do. Vince is all about this, and would have no problems with it, but it is very apparent that Jacob is using him in a way, knowing how Vince feels about him. Jacob is stringing Vince along, and it’s very apparent that Jacob eats up the attention.

”¢ His Sisters talk about and joke that Jacob is Vince’s number one man in his life. And oooooh, whatever you do, don’t mess with Vince and Jacob’s relationship.

Ӣ Vince got this record for Jacob when he was on his Vegas trip, and was super excited to give it to him. It was ALL he could talk about for the next few days until we saw Jacob. He said he knew that Jacob had been wanting that record for a long time too, it was a collectors edition, and he had been searching for it so he could get it for him for a while now. Vince got me a little candle from Vegas, just like the other souvenir gifts that he got the
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Haha. Poor Libras always being pegged as gay.
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Honesty thouh Rockyroadicecream, I am pretty sure that this is actually what's going on.

I am not sure how I didn't see it before, but there have been a LOT of things that I had not even payed attention to until the past couple of days- now looking at things from an outside perspective, it is VERY apparent that this is what was going on. I am a list person, so I am about to fire off some lists of indicators from my experiences that I CAN'T BELIEVE I missed!

This first list is about how strange his relationship with his best friend is. Like, VERY strange-

Why I think that Vince (the ex) is in love with or has strong feelings for Jacob (the best friend)- Here's 10 scenario's I put together that I could logically and clearly remember
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”¢ How he acted towards his best friend Jacob. He was very into him. Jacob would ‘sort of’ reciprocate, but there was definitely something a bit ‘off’ and strange going on with their relationship.

”¢ The weekend that we were going to his parents labor day party. The days leading up to it, and at the party, and days after the party, Vince was extremely focused on wanting Jacob to be there. He was sad that he hadn’t heard from Jacob. He kept calling him over and over without an answer. Finally, I decided to walk over there, and Jacob was clearly dodging Vince, because he was at his house when we got there and tried to be quiet and not answer the door.

”¢ Vince would always touch Jacob in very intimate ways. I remember a specific time when he went to pull a fuzzy off off of Jacobs shirt, and it was very ‘odd’ how openly he touched him in that way. I have gone to do that to Vince, and he would flinch and pull away from me.

”¢ It is VERY clear that Vince would do anything that Jacob asked him to do. Vince is all about this, and would have no problems with it, but it is very apparent that Jacob is using him in a way, knowing how Vince feels about him. Jacob is stringing Vince along, and it’s very apparent that Jacob eats up the attention.

”¢ His Sisters talk about and joke that Jacob is Vince’s number one man in his life. And oooooh, whatever you do, don’t mess with Vince and Jacob’s relationship.

Ӣ Vince got this record for Jacob when he was on his Vegas trip, and was super excited to give it to him. It was ALL he could talk about for the next few days until we saw Jacob. He said he knew that Jacob had been wanting that record for a long time too, i
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Did this list get posted all the way? There should be 10 bullet points....

”¢ How he acted towards his best friend Jacob. He was very into him. Jacob would ‘sort of’ reciprocate, but there was definitely something a bit ‘off’ and strange going on with their relationship.
”¢ The weekend that we were going to his parents labor day party. The days leading up to it, and at the party, and days after the party, Vince was extremely focused on wanting Jacob to be there. He was sad that he hadn’t heard from Jacob. He kept calling him over and over without an answer. Finally, I decided to walk over there, and Jacob was clearly dodging Vince, because he was at his house when we got there and tried to be quiet and not answer the door.
”¢ Vince would always touch Jacob in very intimate ways. I remember a specific time when he went to pull a fuzzy off off of Jacobs shirt, and it was very ‘odd’ how openly he touched him in that way. I have gone to do that to Vince, and he would flinch and pull away from me.
”¢ It is VERY clear that Vince would do anything that Jacob asked him to do. Vince is all about this, and would have no problems with it, but it is very apparent that Jacob is using him in a way, knowing how Vince feels about him. Jacob is stringing Vince along, and it’s very apparent that Jacob eats up the attention.
”¢ His Sisters talk about and joke that Jacob is Vince’s number one man in his life. And oooooh, whatever you do, don’t mess with Vince and Jacob’s relationship.
”¢ Vince got this record for Jacob when he was on his Vegas trip, and was super excited to give it to him. It was ALL he could talk about for the next few days until we saw Jacob. He said he knew that Jacob had been wanting that record for a long time too, it was a collectors edition, and he had been searching for it so he could get it for him for a while now. Vince got me a little candle from Vegas, just like the other souvenir gifts that he got the rest of the friends and family. The record he ended up giving Jacob was $ 70 +. The candle he got me couldn’t have been more than $ 10
”¢ He has made jokes about how he realizes how attractive Jacob is. He is ‘joking’, but you can clearly tell that Vince thinks that he is attractive big time physically
”¢ It’s very strange how when Jacob walks in a room, Vince acts like he is the only person that exists.
Ӣ When in a group of people with Vince and Jacob, when Jacob is having a conversation with someone, Vince is busy not paying attention to the person talking to him because he is busy watching Jacob talk with someone. He has done this when Jacob and I have been talking; Vince will be busy staring at Jacob and not even realizing that I am seeing this all happen.
Ӣ He had continuously brought up a story that I told him about a friend of mine; how she and this guy were best friends for years- how she was head over heals in love with him and wanted to be with hi
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At least you aren't that chick who was here awhile back who hadn't slept with her Libra dude in a year or some shit but spent a majority of his time with his male friend. THAT was screaming gay. Yours at least sleeps with you haha.

As for not lasting long, eh. I was with one who was a quick finisher but he also could recover just as fast.

I think your questioning his masculinity over trivial stuff because you got dumped isn't a cool thing to do. We don't like it when guys objectify us, you shouldn't be emasculating him because he wouldn't fuck you long enough or has a close friendship with a dude.
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At least you aren't that chick who was here awhile back who hadn't slept with her Libra dude in a year or some shit but spent a majority of his time with his male friend. THAT was screaming gay. Yours at least sleeps with you haha.

As for not lasting long, eh. I was with one who was a quick finisher but he also could recover just as fast.

I think your questioning his masculinity over trivial stuff because you got dumped isn't a cool thing to do. We don't like it when guys objectify us, you shouldn't be emasculating him because he wouldn't fuck you long enough or has a close friendship with a dude.
I hear ya Rockyroadicecream,

But my problem had nothing to do with the not lasting long. it was about how mechanical, how he seemed like he was forced to do it, and how strangely he would act when it was happening. It was a HUGE lack of passion, like super awkward. I have never had intimacy problems with a guy like that before.

In regard to what your saying about the rejection and using the gay thing for an excuse- I'm telling you, that's not it. I just..... I wish you could have been there for these scenarios. It was like a lightening built when I actually wrote them all out and thought about it. Rejection is rejection. This is the first and ONLY guy I have ever thought (and verbalized) might possibly be gay.

Another thing on the sex situation. I'm not sure if it's because I am a Leo, but I can't stay in a relationship unless the sex is awesome. I just can't. I think that's why I am usually always drawn to Scorpio's, there's never a problem in the bedroom with those guys!

Thanks for your input on this 🙂
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The book "The Power of the Yssup" is so fun to read to my friends after we have had some drinks and smoked a blunt. It is literally some of the best conversations, and fun times I have had with my friends; the laughter, the comebacks - like - the sexually liberated women or (sluts) in my social circle have strong negative reaction to the book. It is fucking HILARIOUS!

Excerpts from a book do not denote a comprehensive analysis of its content. At Amazon.com the "look inside" option avails one a brief opportunity to peruse the contents. There, you will discover 12 chapters; one dedicated to sex, the others dedicated to principles, commitment, and family values. I choose to research a topic in order to give an educated opinion! But hey it takes all kinds. 🙂
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Posted by rockyroadicecream
At least you aren't that chick who was here awhile back who hadn't slept with her Libra dude in a year or some shit but spent a majority of his time with his male friend. THAT was screaming gay. Yours at least sleeps with you haha.

As for not lasting long, eh. I was with one who was a quick finisher but he also could recover just as fast.

I think your questioning his masculinity over trivial stuff because you got dumped isn't a cool thing to do. We don't like it when guys objectify us, you shouldn't be emasculating him because he wouldn't fuck you long enough or has a close friendship with a dude.
I hear ya Rockyroadicecream,

But my problem had nothing to do with the not lasting long. it was about how mechanical, how he seemed like he was forced to do it, and how strangely he would act when it was happening. It was a HUGE lack of passion, like super awkward. I have never had intimacy problems with a guy like that before.

In regard to what your saying about the rejection and using the gay thing for an excuse- I'm telling you, that's not it. I just..... I wish you could have been there for these scenarios. It was like a lightening built when I actually wrote them all out and thought about it. Rejection is rejection. This is the first and ONLY guy I have ever thought (and verbalized) might possibly be gay.

Another thing on the sex situation. I'm not sure if it's because I am a Leo, but I can't stay in a relationship unless the sex is awesome. I just can't. I think that's why I am usually always drawn to Scorpio's, there's never a problem in the bedroom with those guys!

Thanks for your input on this 🙂
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That's a fire sign thing, me thinks. Sex means a lot to us and has to be good along with a good relationship.

It's why I'm even amazed why you were considering this guy and all worried about him coming back around or not when you weren't even happy in that department. The whole situation reeks of cons, so why are you fretting over this guy? He treated you like a whim and dropped you as such, the sex fell flat, and you're here wondering what he's "thinking?"

WHY CARE? The whole situation sounds lame. I don't understand why you're so caught up on something that's clearly a waste of time for you.
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Posted by Dyxpnetuser424
The book "The Power of the Yssup" is so fun to read to my friends after we have had some drinks and smoked a blunt. It is literally some of the best conversations, and fun times I have had with my friends; the laughter, the comebacks - like - the sexually liberated women or (sluts) in my social circle have strong negative reaction to the book. It is fucking HILARIOUS!

Excerpts from a book do not denote a comprehensive analysis of its content. At Amazon.com the "look inside" option avails one a brief opportunity to peruse the contents. There, you will discover 12 chapters; one dedicated to sex, the others dedicated to principles, commitment, and family values. I choose to research a topic in order to give an educated opinion! But hey it takes all kinds. 🙂
The whole point of an educated opinion is actually looking into more resources than some kindle book where you can be cheap and fixate on one chapter within a preview of that book.

Also, your use of "sluts" says a lot about where you're coming from, especially with that outdated "six month" rule bullshit. Honey, no. Girls shouldn't put out fast if they want a guy to seriously consider dating them, sure, but the time frames that you've been preaching are ridiculous.

Go find some more, legit books about the topic on hand, preferably those based in sociological and gender studies, not some self help book by a radio DJ who's a stay at home mom. She's not even in the current dating scene so I don't see how her view on the topic has any validity.

Her background alone explains why she has such a 1950s mindset toward dating, tbh.

Just an FYI, you want to go on about "educated opinions" learn how to get one and learn how to cite better sources. After all that's what educated people do, dear.
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