One thing I don't get about Reincarnation?

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Do you all believe in Reincarnation?

I was reading up on Reincarnation and Past life regression and one thing that I found interesting is that people in this life that commit murders essentially get a clean slate and can reincarnate in another life without any real consequence. I wish I could find the article but its buried in my history, but essentially the article said that souls before they reincarnate choose whether they want to play the bad guy or good guy in life, so they essentially are responsible for choosing if they want to be murderers, rapist, etc...to me that makes absolutely no sense.

Then the article went on to explain when the soul crosses back over--especially in the case of suicide--they can cross over into I guess what would be like "heaven" rather than stay in purgatory or limbo if they don't feel any lingering feelings; and I quote some souls will just say "well that life sucked, I'm ready for something else" and just cross over.

To me that's so unfair, for me to even think that some souls are able to just wipe their hands, to me it just doesn't make much sense...Am I missing something?
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Posted by Impulsv
No I think if a murder returns karma is played either by a family member being hurt or themselves.
Ok in a past life a suicide was commited I think u go were everyone goes n plan out next life to get to try again so that it does not occur n u learn the lessons.
U may have repeat it until u get it n that's punishment enough so not really getting of easy. But let's say I was murdered n I encounter in this life the murder. I have a choice to continue the cycle I victimize him we return he victimizes me for revenge over n over until one forgives or learns the lesson. At least that's what I've read.



That's so creepy. So technically all of our relationships that are abusive on some level in this life where of the same caliber in our past?

Also what about children that are victimized in life, there's no way they could of avoided that karma and prevented themselves from being the victim.

And yes that's the site, how credible would you say that site is?
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Posted by starlover
I was murdered in a past life by a lover i met in this one....apparently i had killed him in another life, so it was my turn now to get killed again lol

Weirdly, when i was with him and was having a shaman healing session, the healer said to me *he could kill you* (she knew nothing about the past lives). I asked her to explain and she said it wouldnt be intentional but in a passionate moment (hands around the throat)

Needless to say i dumped him

lol



That's so creepy and then you said that you always sensed an uneasiness around him, it's so interesting how things, feelings, dreams can all reach out to us to warn us about something. But Karma is such a tricky thing to me, because that same site that I mentioned, it said how one woman had bad karma in her current life with her lover because in a past life, she was his mother and after years of supporting him financially she cut him off. He had a drug addiction and was spending all of the money she had given him on his drug habit, he completely neglected his wife and children (her grandchildren) and she had enough. Well as a punishment, in this life they became lovers and he had some entrepreneurial dreams in which she financed, well his business venture became a success and he ended up leaving her for another woman.

To me that karma never set right with me. How is it thought to be fair that she be punished in this way? I mean if that were her son in another life, and he fucked around and was a complete irresponsible MAN, what was she to do. She had done all she could for the majority of his life--including adult life. It sucks that he had developed a drug addiction and of course he needed help (apparently this past life was in Ancient Greece or Rome) but what is a parent to do after sometime of trying.

Idk it seems like in her case: she was a mother that had done all she could and in her next life she was a woman in love that got taken advantage of by some heartless greedy monster.

Karma is strange.
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Posted by Impulsv
No I think if a murder returns karma is played either by a family member being hurt or themselves.
Ok in a past life a suicide was commited I think u go were everyone goes n plan out next life to get to try again so that it does not occur n u learn the lessons.
U may have repeat it until u get it n that's punishment enough so not really getting of easy. But let's say I was murdered n I encounter in this life the murder. I have a choice to continue the cycle I victimize him we return he victimizes me for revenge over n over until one forgives or learns the lesson. At least that's what I've read.



Another thing, I read somewhere that people who commit suicide and dependent on the style of suicide are punished in their next life by being born with some sort of physical defect or impairment. I believe I read that someone with Cerebral Palsy killed them self by shooting them self in their head and that being born with Cerebral Palsy is their punishment.

How cruel.
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Karma is a very strange thing to grasp, generally you reap what you sow and you are to repeat lessons until you eventually learn them. Reincarnation is supposed to be tied into karma somehow, how you live this life will carry over into the next. It may not always be fair but with every new life experience you are supposed to become more enlightened and aware of your cosmic consciousness.
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I feel humans are unlocking the sealed powers nature has tried to hide.

Humans don't believe in magic because it's all illusions. You can't make a fireball with your mental powers then
throw it at enemy. Or can you?
We can create bombs with our own two hands then launch it at an enemy, so what's the next step? Making that ball of fire even smaller and compact. Over time it gets more advanced and compact, until we are launching fireballs from our hands with ways invisible to the naked eye.

These mysteries are things you won't believe. They have been hidden from you, and your programmed to just eat, sleep, work, rinse and repeat. But why? Why is life like this?

With life comes death, but with mortality comes immortality. It sounds farfetched and somthing from an old book, but we will use our mental abilities to unlock immortality, just like every other secret locked away from our grasps because it defies nature and everything life stands for. We are being used to make evil immortal in our happy little world. Once that happens the true apocalypse will occur.

Hopefully I can reincarnate as a bird so I can fly far the fuck away when an immortal Hell breaks lose.
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Posted by Soul
I feel humans are unlocking the sealed powers nature has tried to hide.

Humans don't believe in magic because it's all illusions. You can't make a fireball with your mental powers then
throw it at enemy. Or can you?
We can create bombs with our own two hands then launch it at an enemy, so what's the next step? Making that ball of fire even smaller and compact. Over time it gets more advanced and compact, until we are launching fireballs from our hands with ways invisible to the naked eye.

These mysteries are things you won't believe. They have been hidden from you, and your programmed to just eat, sleep, work, rinse and repeat. But why? Why is life like this?

With life comes death, but with mortality comes immortality. It sounds farfetched and somthing from an old book, but we will use our mental abilities to unlock immortality, just like every other secret locked away from our grasps because it defies nature and everything life stands for. We are being used to make evil immortal in our happy little world. Once that happens the true apocalypse will occur.

Hopefully I can reincarnate as a bird so I can fly far the fuck away when an immortal Hell breaks lose.
I honestly don't feel like nature or in my belief system God, hides anything. I think it's all encoded in our souls and that we are so distracted by material and other distractions that we choose not to look within ourselves for the answers to these "mysteries". Just my two cents.
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Posted by starlover
mallo

when i see the tiniest pic of the eiffel tower now i freeze (that is where my ex lover pushed me from in the past life). we were there in Paris last year together and i hated it. i must be one of the few that found the city unlikeable
supposedly my past life was that i was a SIREN, or a temptress and had tons of men groveling over me. (what a psychic told me) and one man wanted me so bad that he cursed me, cause he was so obsessed.

when she told me that i thought GROSS.

this lifetime, i really do NOT like the energy of men groveling over me, while plenty of women LOVE that shit.

it's like some kind of evil curse.

i even will get fat as a house so i dont get attention too.
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@Libralula
I was exposed to the "Earth is a school" perspective a while ago .. I even used to co-sign it

now let me ask:

1) if you were in survival mode (like a lot of people are in "3rd world countries"), would you be able to rationalize not having had a meal in 2-3 days as a life lesson/part of your spiritual growth ?
2) do you believe victims of sexual abuse/rape are all experiencing bad karma for being sexual abusers in a previous life (this is what I usually hear from subscribers of the 'Earth is a school' pov) ? for those who aren't, how does someone benefit from going through such traumatizing experiences ?
3) If you saw your loved ones suffering (& it's been going on for years) and you had the power to put an end to it, would you sit back and think: "they have to go through it, it's a life lesson"
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Posted by Libralula
We look in our rearview mirror as necessary but we should keep our focus on the road in front of us... I personally focus less on past life doings as for why things happen now but more how can I do right in This life. I want to be as positive as I can and help as many people as I can, that's my personal belief though.

I'm not saying I'm 100% correct but it works for me. May not work for others.
I agree with you on how an experience won't feel like a life lesson in the midst of it, but more than likely a few years down the line
I've experienced this myself .. and I get what you mean by having to go through certain experiences to be able to relate to and (eventually) help others

however, I have to question the true nature of a God/Source that would design a system where his/her/its "children" would have to experience discomfort in order to grow
I realize we aren't meant to understand everything from our limited 3D position, but still .. to me, an Intelligent and Benevolent Creator would have designed a less discomforting/trying system for experiencing growth .. on an intuitive level, something doesn't feel right with the "reincarnation is favorable to growth" picture (at least for me)

personally, I've come to the conclusion that (1) either God isn't unconditional Love (which would contradict the experience I had of God's energy) or (2) certain parts of the Multiverse aren't under God's direct supervision (the physical plane for example) .. the possibility that some parasitic entities have figured out a way to create environments where they can get their needs met without violating Universal Laws makes the most sense to me