LetltB
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Police Peacefully Protest
"The number of arrests citywide plummeted by 56% for the week ending Sunday, from 5,448 during the same time period a year ago to 2,401.
The number of people slapped with criminal summonses for offenses like drinking in public fell 92% for the same week, from 4,077 to just 347.
THE NEWS SAYS: Real leadership wanted from police unions and Mayor de Blasio
Just 749 motorists were hit with moving violations, compared with 9,349 a year ago — a 92% drop.
And the number of parking summonses issued fell by a whopping 90% , from 16,008 to just 1,191.
In Brooklyn??s 84th Precinct, home base for Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu, the two hero police officers who were executed by a cop-hating maniac, a grand total of just two tickets were written for moving violations.
Not a single parking or Criminal Court summons was issued."
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/tickets-drop-92-week-apparent-nypd-slowdwon-article-1.2066763
The number of people slapped with criminal summonses for offenses like drinking in public fell 92% for the same week, from 4,077 to just 347.
THE NEWS SAYS: Real leadership wanted from police unions and Mayor de Blasio
Just 749 motorists were hit with moving violations, compared with 9,349 a year ago — a 92% drop.
And the number of parking summonses issued fell by a whopping 90% , from 16,008 to just 1,191.
In Brooklyn??s 84th Precinct, home base for Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu, the two hero police officers who were executed by a cop-hating maniac, a grand total of just two tickets were written for moving violations.
Not a single parking or Criminal Court summons was issued."
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/tickets-drop-92-week-apparent-nypd-slowdwon-article-1.2066763
From Rolling Stone:
"Substantively that mostly means a steep drop-off in parking tickets, but also a major drop in tickets for quality-of-life offenses like carrying open containers of alcohol or public urination.
My first response to this news was confusion. I get why the police are protesting — they're pissed at Mayor de Blasio, and more on that in a minute — but this sort of "protest" pulls this story out of the standard left-right culture war script it had been following and into surreal territory.
I don't know any police officer anywhere who would refuse to arrest a truly dangerous criminal as part of a PBA-led political gambit. So the essence of this protest seems now to be about trying to hit de Blasio where it hurts, i.e. in the budget, without actually endangering the public.
So this police protest, unwittingly, is leading to the exposure of the very policies that anger so many different constituencies about modern law-enforcement tactics.
First, it shines a light on the use of police officers to make up for tax shortfalls using ticket and citation revenue. Then there's the related (and significantly more important) issue of forcing police to make thousands of arrests and issue hundreds of thousands of summonses when they don't "have to."
It's incredibly ironic that the police have chosen to abandon quality-of-life actions like public urination tickets and open-container violations, because it's precisely these types of interactions that are at the heart of the Broken Windows polices that so infuriate residents of so-called "hot spot" neighborhoods."
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-nypds-work-stoppage-is-surreal-20141231
"Substantively that mostly means a steep drop-off in parking tickets, but also a major drop in tickets for quality-of-life offenses like carrying open containers of alcohol or public urination.
My first response to this news was confusion. I get why the police are protesting — they're pissed at Mayor de Blasio, and more on that in a minute — but this sort of "protest" pulls this story out of the standard left-right culture war script it had been following and into surreal territory.
I don't know any police officer anywhere who would refuse to arrest a truly dangerous criminal as part of a PBA-led political gambit. So the essence of this protest seems now to be about trying to hit de Blasio where it hurts, i.e. in the budget, without actually endangering the public.
So this police protest, unwittingly, is leading to the exposure of the very policies that anger so many different constituencies about modern law-enforcement tactics.
First, it shines a light on the use of police officers to make up for tax shortfalls using ticket and citation revenue. Then there's the related (and significantly more important) issue of forcing police to make thousands of arrests and issue hundreds of thousands of summonses when they don't "have to."
It's incredibly ironic that the police have chosen to abandon quality-of-life actions like public urination tickets and open-container violations, because it's precisely these types of interactions that are at the heart of the Broken Windows polices that so infuriate residents of so-called "hot spot" neighborhoods."
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-nypds-work-stoppage-is-surreal-20141231
A very public apology would be nice...without one, it's clear Di Blasio stands by his anti-police rhetoric. Thank goodness the First Amendment covers ALL Americans eh?
Who pays NYPD? The majority who DO NOT sit on their lazy asses collecting welfare while protesting against law and order. The SAME majority who backs up the current protest of the NYPD 100% and this peaceful protest against the anti-police mayor, that's who.
"Cardillo said the back-turning, despite a plea from Police Commissioner William Bratton to not repeat the gesture, was not a rebuke to Bratton but to his boss, the mayor, for comments that fostered an anti-police climate culminating in the Dec. 20 murders of Liu and fellow officer Rafael Ramos.
"The cops understand Commissioner Bratton is appointed by Mayor De Blasio and that the mayor is ultimately calling the shots here," said Cardillo."
"Comparing the gesture to sometimes violent anti-police protests of recent weeks, he said.
"These police officers ??_ peacefully and respectfully turn their backs."
He also said that de Blasio still needs to deliver the apology deserved by police if he expects to overcome the furor.
"These politicians that have pandered to the far left, that have engaged in this incendiary rhetoric, need to apologize and need to do 180s," said Cardillo. "They really need to reverse what they've said and need to reinforce the need for police, the importance of the police, and most importantly the respect for police."
Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.Newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/bill-de-blasio-drop-traffic-tickets/2015/01/05/id/616508/#ixzz3O9guzjaz
Who pays NYPD? The majority who DO NOT sit on their lazy asses collecting welfare while protesting against law and order. The SAME majority who backs up the current protest of the NYPD 100% and this peaceful protest against the anti-police mayor, that's who.
"Cardillo said the back-turning, despite a plea from Police Commissioner William Bratton to not repeat the gesture, was not a rebuke to Bratton but to his boss, the mayor, for comments that fostered an anti-police climate culminating in the Dec. 20 murders of Liu and fellow officer Rafael Ramos.
"The cops understand Commissioner Bratton is appointed by Mayor De Blasio and that the mayor is ultimately calling the shots here," said Cardillo."
"Comparing the gesture to sometimes violent anti-police protests of recent weeks, he said.
"These police officers ??_ peacefully and respectfully turn their backs."
He also said that de Blasio still needs to deliver the apology deserved by police if he expects to overcome the furor.
"These politicians that have pandered to the far left, that have engaged in this incendiary rhetoric, need to apologize and need to do 180s," said Cardillo. "They really need to reverse what they've said and need to reinforce the need for police, the importance of the police, and most importantly the respect for police."
Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.Newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/bill-de-blasio-drop-traffic-tickets/2015/01/05/id/616508/#ixzz3O9guzjaz
Posted by GetMisted
@LIB..
I'm perfectly fine with Police protesting. But not while on the job (we pay their salary). And not at a funeral 😢
New York citizens who WORK pay the NYPD salary and have every right to proudly back up the NYPD. Do you live in New York?
I already know the answer to that...
Posted by LetltB
"The number of arrests citywide plummeted by 56% for the week ending Sunday, from 5,448 during the same time period a year ago to 2,401.
The number of people slapped with criminal summonses for offenses like drinking in public fell 92% for the same week, from 4,077 to just 347.
THE NEWS SAYS: Real leadership wanted from police unions and Mayor de Blasio
Just 749 motorists were hit with moving violations, compared with 9,349 a year ago — a 92% drop.
And the number of parking summonses issued fell by a whopping 90% , from 16,008 to just 1,191.
In Brooklyn??s 84th Precinct, home base for Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu, the two hero police officers who were executed by a cop-hating maniac, a grand total of just two tickets were written for moving violations.
Not a single parking or Criminal Court summons was issued."
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/tickets-drop-92-week-apparent-nypd-slowdwon-article-1.2066763
Sticking it to the city where it hurts--
Revenue.
Money talks-- I doubt it will last long.
Posted by GetMisted
That's a broad generalization, and you know it. There will be many more tax paying citizens catching wind of the NYPD using a funeral as a way to get more money. That approval rating is dropping.. Quickly.
Secondly, the mayor works for the people, as to the police. They both owe us an apology.. The police for not doing their jobs correctly, and wasting tax payer money.. And the mayor for allowing it to happen.
There's nothing here to debate nor do these cops give a rates ass about approval ratings. lol..
Approval ratings are for politicians silly. Di Blasio's are in the shitter.
*rats ass 😐
Posted by GetMisted
No I don't. And neither do you. That doesn't stop you from complaining.. And nor will it me.
Either way, those that WORK, have just as much right to not support the NYPD.. As the ones who do.
It's all a matter of opinion, and it doesn't matter where you live.
I live and pay New York taxes. You don't. Anyone can have an opinion.
It's the FACTS that matter here and apply to the very core of what's going on.
For the record a huge portion of my NY property taxes is given to those on welfare in NY along with Medicaid. I work and own a home.
Not real happy supporting lazy asses protesting on my dollar against law and order either.
Not real happy supporting lazy asses protesting on my dollar against law and order either.
Posted by GetMistedPosted by LetltBPosted by GetMisted
No I don't. And neither do you. That doesn't stop you from complaining.. And nor will it me.
Either way, those that WORK, have just as much right to not support the NYPD.. As the ones who do.
It's all a matter of opinion, and it doesn't matter where you live.
I live and pay New York taxes. You don't. Anyone can have an opinion.
It's the FACTS that matter here and apply to the very core of what's going on.
I stand corrected, and I apologize.
Still.. I don't have to live in NY to understand the politics behind this matter.
You have tax paying citizens in NYC who do not approve of the NYPD, and stand by the mayor to back the people.
All I'm saying.. Is that there is a chain of command. And once again, the police apparently don't have to follow it. I would be fired for what they are doing.click to expand
I believe the cops are union up there.
:/
Unions have gotten kind of dirty altogether.
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Posted by GetMistedPosted by LetltB
For the record a huge portion of my NY property taxes is given to those on welfare in NY along with Medicaid. I work and own a home.
Not real happy supporting lazy asses protesting on my dollar against law and order either.
You're generalizing though, LIB.
If you believe the protests are anti-cop or law, you're sorely mistaken.click to expand
I do believe 3/4 of the people protesting do NOT know what they are protesting, but when we look at the facts, they are protesting about two males who were killed because:
They both brok the law
They both resisted arrest
One punched the cop in the head three times and tried to get his gun and resisted arrest.
The other walked away IN FRONT OF A FEMALE BLACK SEARGENT IN CHARGE and resisted arrest.
So yes, in essence the protests are supporting those who BREAK THE LAW. Period.
....and it's also a fact that it was the small majority who protested across America.
Posted by GetMisted
They are. And Lynch is using all of this as a bargaining chip. It's sick.
Really?.. can you support this with fact?
All the NYPD and every cop in this state wants is a PUBLIC APOLOGY. Why isn't De Blasio doing that?
Posted by Ixion120Posted by LetltB
All the NYPD and every cop in this state wants is a PUBLIC APOLOGY. Why isn't De Blasio doing that?
Because they are not deserving of one.click to expand
...which will result in neighborhoods/communities turning to shit again. As long as Mayor De Blasio turns the public against the police, the more the police are going to back off to avoid more cops being murdered. The police are now protecting themselves as a result..Common sense.
When the boss refuses to back up his police force...public safety takes a dive & it leads to minority communities once again putting their babies and toddlers in a bathtub at night for protection. All because a politician knowingly and publicly threw his entire police force into the shitter for doing their job.
Posted by Ixion120Posted by LetltB
All the NYPD and every cop in this state wants is a PUBLIC APOLOGY. Why isn't De Blasio doing that?
Because they are not deserving of one. Funnily enough most city residents and Americans are not on the side of the police in this one and for good reason.click to expand
Wrong.
You're only hearing from the VERY vocal minority.
The silent majority is all in with the cops.
Posted by CapTennPosted by Ixion120Posted by LetltB
All the NYPD and every cop in this state wants is a PUBLIC APOLOGY. Why isn't De Blasio doing that?
Because they are not deserving of one. Funnily enough most city residents and Americans are not on the side of the police in this one and for good reason.
Wrong.
You're only hearing from the VERY vocal minority.
The silent majority is all in with the cops.click to expand
+1 Common sense that the majority of Americans feel safe having the police around who happen to support law and order.
Posted by Ixion120
If the silent majority won't speak up against injustice then what use are they besides being complicit in the problems?
The silent majority don't have to speak up, they were confident enough and smart enough to know right from wrong and WANT law and order and to feel safe.
Hence why the protests and protesters against law and order already took a dive into the shitter.
Posted by Ixion120
^^^ I truly hope most Americans don't think that this is common sense...otherwise this country truly is morally bankrupt lol.
You're blind.
.... and wrong.
Posted by LetltBPosted by Ixion120
If the silent majority won't speak up against injustice then what use are they besides being complicit in the problems?
The silent majority don't have to speak up, they were confident enough and smart enough to know right from wrong and WANT law and order and to feel safe.
Hence why the protests and protesters against law and order already took a dive into the shitter.click to expand
Yes.
Posted by Ixion120
Butttt I'm not. Just because you state I am "wrong" neither of you have put together a coherent argument to state how. The burden of proof is on both of you, don't worry I'll wait.
^^^Hence why the protests took a shit. smh
grasping doesn't help you much...
I'm not going to repeat my argument. Look at the other threads we went back and forth on for a month, you'll find my argument there in black and white. I'm confident your memory will be refreshed 😉
I'm not going to repeat my argument. Look at the other threads we went back and forth on for a month, you'll find my argument there in black and white. I'm confident your memory will be refreshed 😉
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No Justice, No Police
JAN. 6, 2015
Mayor Bill de Blasio has been in office barely a year, and already forces of entropy are roaming the streets, turning their backs on the law, defying civil authority and trying to unravel the social fabric.
No, not squeegee-men or turnstile-jumpers. We??re talking about the cops.
For the second straight week, police officers across the city have all but stopped writing tickets and severely cut down the number of arrests. The Times reported that in the week ending Sunday, only 347 criminal summonses were issued citywide, down from 4,077 over the same period last year. Parking and traffic tickets were down by more than 90 percent. In Coney Island, ticketing and summonses fell to zero.
The city has been placed in an absurd position, with its police commissioner, William Bratton — a pioneer of —broken windows?? policing who has justwritten a long, impassioned defense of that strategy as an essential crime-fighting tool — leading a force that is refusing to carry it out.
Police union officials deny responsibility for the mass inaction. But Edward Mullins, president of the Sergeants Benevolent Association, said officers had talked among themselves and —it became contagious,?? apparently like the flu.
Call this what it is: a reckless, coordinated escalation of a war between the police unions and Mr. de Blasio and a hijacking of law-enforcement policy by those who do not set law-enforcement policy. This deplorable gesture is bound to increase tension in a city already rattled over the killing by the police of an unarmed man, Eric Garner, last summer, the executions of two officers in Brooklyn last month, and the shootings on Monday of two plainclothes officers in the Bronx.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/07/opinion/no-justice-no-police.html?_r=1